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Is pain racist? Advil seems to think so.

Is pain racist? Advil seems to think so.

It’s really a shame that Advil took on an issue purely for virtue signaling.

Is pain racist? Advil seems to think so. The manufacturer of the pain relief widely available in American supermarkets and pharmacies unveiled “believe my pain” campaign and placed signs next to its product advising customers that according to Advil’s own study 3 in 4 blacks who experience pain believe that there is a difference in how their pain is treated. Am I supposed to drop an Advil to think about it? Because when I start thinking about it, I get a headache.

Advil explained that the corporation’s goal is “pain equity” which it defined as “everyone reaching their full potential” — a vague description to be sure. Properly treating conditions of which pain is the symptom and managing suffering is a more measurable goal.

The Advil study to which they refer was published in the form of snippets on the company website. It consisted of an online survey of 1,000 Americans suffering from pain and an oversample of 1,000 blacks — probably not the best methodology.

The study also found that blacks are more likely to go to the emergency rooms than all other ethnic groups. 20% of black respondents visited emergency rooms for their health issues compare to 10% of whites, 17% of Hispanics and just 5% percent of Asians. In other words, blacks receive different — and perhaps lower quality — treatments. Moreover, the higher rates of use of emergency rooms suggests that a significant number don’t address their health problems until they become entrenched.

In addition to the survey, Advil profiled five blacks Americans with harrowing stories of misdiagnoses during which they say their complaints of pain were ignored by unnamed doctors at unnamed hospitals. It doesn’t sound like their problems could be fixed with over the counter pain relief — Advil’s product. The company is using political ideology to create a certain feel about their name — anyone can do it, so why should I buy their pills?

I trust the subjects of the interview have their reasons to withdraw the information relating to their healthcare, but, from the reader’s point of view, this campaign has a strong #MeToo feel. We are asked to believe something as personal as the experience of pain and perception of racism based on unverified information. I don’t want to suggest that the experiences described are unlikely — many interactions in a doctor’s office don’t have a happy ending.

Medical errors are sadly common, so I don’t think it would be difficult to round up five Asians or whites in this great big country of ours with their own anecdotes of misdiagnosis, including ignoring their complaints of pain. Nor do I want to suggest that it may not happen to blacks more often. However, to jump to the conclusion that negative experiences of blacks are due to racism in medical profession based solely on feelings of the wronged individuals is to ignore all other explanations.

Could it be that black people tend to receive poor quality care because of lack of resources and inability to properly navigate the increasingly complicated healthcare system? If that’s the case, as quality of care deteriorates, poor people, including blacks, are likely to see more suffering.

Because medical errors are so common, not getting sick in the first place is the best strategy for avoiding them. Here, virtue signaling advertising professionals — the kind that Advil employs — are of little help. The recent “thinness is white supremacy” and “healthy at any size” messages that permeated billboards and magazine covers promote the very ideas that send people they are supposed to help to emergency rooms. “White colonialist medicine” didn’t come up with the notion that morbid obesity as a killer for the sole purpose of telling black women that they can’t be beautiful. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder; health is measurable. Once health deteriorates, interventions begin, opening room for errors.

The Advil study found that black Americans are more likely to believe that medical providers ignore their pain because they stereotype them as capable of withstanding it — hence the “believe my pain” slogan. They also want to see more black medical professionals who understand their experience. But how many of these responders to the online poll also feel that being told to lose weight is racist?

Advil’s campaign should be viewed in the broader context of the attempt, just now coming into gear, to introduce DEI into American medical institutions. While inclusion of critical race theory into medical school curriculum is happening behind the scenes, a public information campaign like Believe My Pain stands as the visible part of the medical DEI iceberg.

The coming health equity will likely include affirmative action doctors and dubious medical training for everyone. Talk show host Ben Shapiro posted a leaked document from a mandatory workshop at the UCLA School of Medicine which detailed gory ways to “dismantle white supremacy” and included detailed study of “blackness and indigenuity” and “how we can imagine a world in the aftermath of settler colonialism and white supremacy.” Advil, for its part, is partnering with the Moorhouse School of Medicine in Atlanta and Black Lives Matter-themed social justice organization BLKHLTH to promote “health and pain equity” in medical education.

Medical schools across the country are ending merit admissions in order to enroll black and Latino students. How do they intend to teach unqualified individuals is another question — undergraduate programs across the country already struggle with too big and unprepared student bodies.

After completion of the program these doctors will probably go to treat minority communities and minorities will be advised to chose them. Will they “believe the pain”? Maybe. A better question is will they be best suited to identify and treat illnesses. DEI is likely to diminish the quality of medical services for all Americans but, as police abolitionists hurt black neighborhoods most, we can reasonably expect that the poor black communities will see their standards of care most affected.

It’s really a shame that Advil took on an issue purely for virtue signaling because they have an excellent product that goes a long way to relieve pain and suffering in America. I recently recovered from a major surgery using only Advil for pain relief. My medical team insisted that they were operating on a very sensitive area and advised me to take Oxycodone preemptively, before pain gets out of hand. I was willing to risk a few hours of agony to see if I could avoid the opiate, and it turned out I didn’t need it at all.

I don’t think I have a particularly high pain threshold. But I am among the growing number of Americans who are aware of the addictiveness of prescription opioids and are willing to try alternative methods. Doctors, too, are now far less generous with narcotic prescriptions than they used to be. Considering the severity of the drug epidemic in this country, Advil can do more good by informing us about the uses of their product post-operatively than virtue signaling about issues that have nothing to do with it.

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Advil, when you come up with a pill that’ll ease the pain I get from listening to all the belly-aching of the left, I’ll buy it.

Dolce Far Niente | March 20, 2024 at 9:47 pm

Generic naproxen sodium is identical to the overpriced Aleve, generic ibuprofen is identical to overpriced Advil.

You can buy the same product without enriching the morons who want to invent racism where none ever existed.

    ThePrimordialOrderedPair in reply to Dolce Far Niente. | March 21, 2024 at 2:25 am

    Yep. I never buy anything but the generics. In general, though, aspirin is still my preference. The “wonder drug” … that they all swear will kill you dead, now.

Buy generic. Feff ’em.

The greatest fear that upper middle class to rich whites have is the fear of being called a racist, especially on social media. Now that Advil is first to establish pain equity, these people will buy Advil in droves — even if they don’t need it. Just to avoid the accusatory “did I just see a bottle of Tylenol back there on your latest post”?

    AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to George S. | March 21, 2024 at 4:53 am

    No fear here.

    MattMusson in reply to George S. | March 21, 2024 at 6:35 am

    The Reason more Blacks go to Emergency Rooms is they are less likely to have a regular primary care physician.

      Peabody in reply to MattMusson. | March 21, 2024 at 12:25 pm

      The reason more blacks to the emergency room is because regular pain killers are not strong enough.

      Advil explained that the corporation’s goal is “pain equity” which includes generic over the counter cocaine and fentanyl for really strong black pain.

    henrybowman in reply to George S. | March 21, 2024 at 10:04 am

    And yet, isn’t this campaign self-defeating?
    “Doctors don’t trust that black people are in enough pain to require opiates, so they pawn them off on stuff like Advil instead.”
    Say, dipwit, which of those two do you sell again?
    If I were your stockholder, I’d sue you.

Imagine that as you stand up some late night from a game of cards you raise your arms for a good stretch and produce a muscle cramp in your neck. It is excruciating, your body contorts, as if to duck the full impact of the pain, and you grunt or whine as if pierced. Can we further imagine your being prompted to say, or to grunt out or whine further, in that condition, “There is something here accompanying my whine of pain”? If we try imagining that you are addressing someone (I suppose the other card players) who persistently fail to admit your pain, hence persistently deny it, and that you are trying, in one final anguish, to elicit their acknowledgment, then oughtn’t we perhaps to imagine further that you moan further, “. . . and moreover there is anguish accompanying my whining of this information”?

– Stanley Cavell, The Claim of Reason

Here’s an
ER video, probably this is what these POC really want, not Advil

https://youtu.be/kz_AY1kPa78?si=dc0liRsHph5XNDxT

    CommoChief in reply to gonzotx. | March 21, 2024 at 7:10 am

    I have a bad reaction to Percocet, makes me vomit every time. Kind of an issue in military hospitals b/c that’s, in my experience, the automatic upgrade from the basic 800mg Motrin in those facilities/clinics. I had to have it put in my ‘allergies’ list but even then many times the docs/nurses don’t read the notes and come back with a RX for Percocet or come with a couple of loose Percocet in an ER setting. They get really PO when told about the reaction and especially when told it was in the notes and they didn’t bother to read it or ask me before bringing it.

    On the plus side I didn’t have any issues post surgical with opioid withdrawal after any of my procedures so while the pain was high short term I didn’t get hooked as many seem to do.

Oh, those poor blacks who had issues while in the hospital were being misdiagnosed! I’m white as snow and I have had my share of misdiagnoses too and it wasn’t white privilege, it was incompetence. Once in for the removal of a small growth on my forearm, I was in a collection area of patients waiting for surgery. This heart surgeon came over to me and said that they would have my HEART fixed in no time at all! Thankfully I was awake and argued with him and got the mix-up solved. Later in my life, I had a skull x-ray to see if I had polyps in my sinuses. The radiologist notified my doctor that I had multiple myeloma of the skull. I went to an oncologist immediately to confirm it and he said I did not have disease of the skull. Misdiagnosis in hospitals affects every race and color. Never go to a hospital alone!

    henrybowman in reply to inspectorudy. | March 21, 2024 at 10:12 am

    I had the lay of the land the day (decades ago) I heard the stories about why it was recommended to write “NOT THIS LEG” on your good leg before the procedure.

      OldProf2 in reply to henrybowman. | March 21, 2024 at 11:46 am

      I had my knee replaced last year, and during the pre-op the nurse routinely asks which knee is to be done. She then wrote a big NO in black magic marker on the other knee. She also put a red X on the knee that was to be done. It seems they took your caution to heart.

        CommoChief in reply to OldProf2. | March 21, 2024 at 12:10 pm

        Yep. Errors in hospitals very often come down to failures to do basic things like being diligent and reading the patient file. Yet some folks still want to go after trial attorneys instead of blaming the often frankly inexcusable actions and inaction of medical providers.

          henrybowman in reply to CommoChief. | March 21, 2024 at 8:23 pm

          US doctors kill somewhere between 98,000 to 440,000 patients annually, any of which figure eclipses the 30-40,000 annual firearms deaths (two-thirds of which are intentional suicides in the first place).

          JAMA (2000) claimed a total of 225,000 deaths per year from iatrogenic causes, placing iatrogeny as the third leading cause of death in the U.S., second only to heart disease and cancer. The scary part is that this does not include disabilities and disorders; just unnecessary deaths in hospitalized patients.

What a joke… That’s all i have to say…

Generic ibuprofen is the exact same thing as Advil, I buy the store brand. It’s cheap.

TL;DR

Is there no rest from this incessant Communist race-hustling and black victimhood agitprop?

I was planning to switch to generic ibuprofen; this news reinforces that plan. If I don’t like the generic I will buy Motrin.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | March 21, 2024 at 2:21 am

placed signs next to its product advising customers that according to Advil’s own study 3 in 4 blacks who experience pain believe that there is a difference in how their pain is treated.

LOL. That’s hysterical. Who would even think to ask anyone a question about that?

Advil explained that the corporation’s goal is “pain equity” which it defined as “everyone reaching their full potential”

Everyone reaching their full potential … of pain??

So … this is an S+M thing.

We’ve got some really sick people in this society. Truly demented.

This manifestly contrived, fallacious and corrosive victimhood-posturing and victimhood-wallowing propaganda, enabled and funded by major, publicly-traded corporations, makes me want to vomit.

In the 1980s and 1990s the main Problem Addiction in the U.S. was cocaine — free base, then crack.

Opiates was barely a thing (Yes, there have always been opiate addicts but in the public consciousness it just wasn’t a thing. compared to today.)

But — in the mid1990s, there was a pretty massive campaign that suddenly swept the healthcare world — “”Pain is undertreated!! Pain is undertreated!!!! Oh My God Ohh My God Oh Myy Gohhhd Pain Is Sooo Undertreated!!!!! Doctors are cruel . Nurses don’t care . Doctors don’t care . Nurses are so cruel” etc

And that’s when the Pain (1-10) Scale became a Must Ask vital sign universally everywhere instead of just in certain settings.

And we all know what happened next:
Widespread increase in opiate prescribing etc etc etc Because nobody wanted to be accused of being cruel or of not caring.

And so it would seem history is going to repeat — except now this time there will be the Racial Component. How lovely.

Imho the next thing you’re going to see are expensive new pharmaceuticals “for pain, especially for the uniquely painful pain that Black People experiencing pain uniquely experience.” Etc.

And if the doctor does not write the prescription for the new expensive Pill For Black People Pain then the doctor will be accused of racism

Likewise the pharmacy or hospital that might try to suggest that it’s all just a marketing campaign in order to maximize pharmaceutical company profit. By misleading the public.

Basically, a variation of the War On Generics

Anything to increase prescriptions for Patented Medicines.
Anything to decrease use of inexpensive , off-patent medicines.

Etc., Etc., Etc.
And so on
And so forth

    Milhouse in reply to Pogo. | March 21, 2024 at 8:37 am

    Pain was and is undertreated, and it’s the government’s fault. Doctors are afraid to prescribe enough pain meds. People have committed suicide because the only doctor who would prescribe what they needed got shut down because the government decided he was “overprescribing”.

    gonzotx in reply to Pogo. | March 21, 2024 at 10:45 am

    Oh dear God yes. Amd
    As a nurse, if you
    Didn’t ask a patient their pain level, 1-10,
    Every 4 hours, you could
    Be fired for negligence

    Almost every patient had 8-10 lol, sitting there, no obvious pain, watching TV

    But boy they loved the pain scale and its reward!

AF_Chief_Master_Sgt | March 21, 2024 at 5:00 am

Too much pain?

Buy Fentanyl. It’s readily available on any street corner in the US., and cheap!

“I’m Joe Biden and I approve this message.”

    thalesofmiletus in reply to AF_Chief_Master_Sgt. | March 22, 2024 at 6:23 pm

    Having received Fentanyl during waking outpatient surgery, I can testify that as a pain reliever, it leaves much to be desired.

    However, it did make breathing more difficult for a time, so it’s really easy to see how George Floyd could have suffocated from overdosing on the stuff.

Just got up this morning, and read this article, and the on about kidney function and how blacks have a higher serum creatinine concentration than whites, and doctors changed the rules so whites are not getting the transplants because they are going to people who really do not need them.

D.E.I. kills.
https://www.city-journal.org/article/equity-over-accuracy-in-kidney-care

They don’t want to pick the cotton in the aspirin bottle.

Suburban Farm Guy | March 21, 2024 at 8:13 am

So sick of racist white liberals imposing their sick, twisted imagination of black culture on everyone everywhere all the time. I might move to Africa to get away from it

E Howard Hunt | March 21, 2024 at 8:24 am

Blacks do have a special relationship with pain- They are carriers.

When people show up at the emergency room claiming they are in great pain, I’m pretty sure it’s not Advil that they’re after.

In fact, when hospital staff suspect someone addicted to opioids to be engaging in “drug seeking” behavior, most likely what they will offer the individual for pain control will be something like Advil or Motrin…which the drug seeker will refuse, usually angrily.

And if they happen to be a minority, they’ll swear it’s because of the color of their skin, not because they regularly make the rounds of every emergency room and clinic in the city hoping to convince someone to write them a(nother) prescription for oxycontin.

WildernessLawyer | March 21, 2024 at 8:47 am

Advil is one of Pfizer’s billion dollar brands which is sold in 45 countries. Pfizer owns a number of other widely used drugs, including Celebrex and Viagra. Pfizer won’t notice if conservatives boycott Advil. The good news for men is that Viagra’s patent monopoly has expired. But Pfizer’s support of this racist view of medicine is appalling.

If your chosen life style results in avoidable health problems, don’t blame your neighbor for your decisions. Weight 50% higher than it should be? Lose pounds. LDL ringing the bell at 300+? Get off your posterior and get away from fried food. It’s all so simple but the ones affected make excuses and then blame their problems on others. I don’t want to hear it.
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    CommoChief in reply to DSHornet. | March 21, 2024 at 12:13 pm

    Exactly. Some seem allergic to consequences of their own action, as if personal responsibility is kryptonite. Never their fault always the fault of someone else or society/culture.

I think many of you have yet to experience the negro population I grew up with.
They are self-segregating.

I should sue the makers of all of these pain relievers as well as other medications that have created my kidney failure. Something they and the physicians don’t really warn you much about until it happens. “Whoops! You better get off of all these medications! You’re killing your kidneys!” If I’d know this stuff was going to kill my kidneys I would have been a heavy drinker. I’d have had better pain relief and more fun in the process of killing them.

The study also found that blacks are more likely to go to the emergency rooms than all other ethnic groups.

I hate meaningless surface level analysis like this. One MUST do further research to find out why this is so. Advil has apparently concluded the reason is that Blacks suffer more pain than other racial groups. However, there could be many other reasons; noting that Hispanics also have a higher ER usage as a percent of population one might as easily conclude that economic status is a player because of correlating data, or equally, that higher incidence of violence in those racial groups is a possible reason.

The point I am trying to make is that I need to see more studies that do deeper analysis of the higher pain levels for Blacks. I would suspect that such studies were undertaken decades ago. I would imagine that, given the number of Blacks as a percentage of world population that, were the hypothesis proven, such a marketing opportunity would not have gone unexploited until 2024. There are numerous “specific condition” variations of Ibuprofen et al already on the market: headache, backache, menstrual cramps, etc. The cost of labeling a variation as specifically for Blacks would have been miniscule.

So, I wonder if Advil bothered to fund any studies to see if Advil is more effective for Blacks than other fungible equivalent medications. I doubt it.

In conclusion: another brand gets added to my grumpy-man boycott list.

    Pogo in reply to Hodge. | March 21, 2024 at 1:17 pm

    “ER use” and “Frequent ER use” and “Reliance on ER in lieu of a Primary Care doc/PA/NP” has always been considered presumptive evidence that the patient is living some kind of irresponsible/chaotic lifestyle.

    An ER visit is far , far more expensive than a doctor visit.

    Every ER visit ends with the recommendation that the patient follow-up with their Primary Care Provider — and the patient signs off acknowledging their understanding that that’s what he or she is supposed to do.

    A Primary Care Provider is supposed to provide ongoing long term primary care. Including for chronically painful conditions.
    An ER doc more or less just is supposed to make sure you don’t die soon after leaving the ER.

    Frequent use of the ER is suggestive of a lot of things way before it’s a sign of intractable, undertreated pain. smh

Yeah no generic version of pain reliever available at Dollar Tree for $1.25. Or black looters can get 5 finger discount.

Given that Asians appear to be not a big user (in fact lower than people of European ancestry) of emergency medical services, then this is clearly not well correlated some systemically racist practices by medical professionals ( predominately by professionals of European ancestry) but probably better correlated to economic circumstances of the patient. It would be nice if one could talk about this more honestly.

    AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to Arnoldn. | March 21, 2024 at 5:02 pm

    “It would be nice if one could talk about this more honestly.”

    But you can’t. There are a number of asshats here on LI that believe you are racist if you dare to state anything factual about certain blacks, or any other perceived race or religion.

    My take. Fûck em. Free country, free speech.

    I am glad to be called a racist for telling the truth.