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NY Gov. Kathy Hochul Approves Slavery Reparations Commission

NY Gov. Kathy Hochul Approves Slavery Reparations Commission

The good news: The commission’s ridiculous demands are likely to be ignored, just like CA Gov. Newsom is ignoring those of his reparations panel.

The last time we checked on the subject of reparations for slavery within the U.S., California Governor Gavin Newsom was less than enthusiastic about writing massive reparations checks recommended by the racialist panel he was responsible for forming.  This lack of enthusiasm is likely to have grown since then, as the state now has a $68 billion dollar budget deficit.

Now, New York’s Gov. Kathy Hochul has entered the race to the bottom, approving a panel for a slavery reparations commission for her state.

“In New York, we like to think we’re on the right side of this. Slavery was a product of the South, the Confederacy,” Hochul, a Democrat, said at the bill signing ceremony in New York City. “What is hard to embrace is the fact that our state also flourished from that slavery. It’s not a beautiful story, but indeed it is the truth.”

Under the law, which was passed by state lawmakers in June, the study commission will examine the extent to which the federal and state government supported the institution of slavery. It will also look at how New York, which fully abolished slavery by 1827, engaged in the transfer of enslaved Africans and the ongoing effects of the institution on Black New Yorkers today.

Hochul is already being blasted for approving this plan, with many critics citing California’s experience with its greedy, racialist commission.

A commission to study the possibility of giving reparations to black New Yorkers was officially created by Gov. Kathy Hochul Tuesday — prompting critics to blast the move as “unlikely to lead to anything, after the failures of such efforts elsewhere “unrealistic” and “divisive.”

New York’s new commission follows a similar one in California, which hasn’t shown any serious signs of acting on its reparations panel’s eye-popping proposal of a $1.2 million payment to nearly every black citizen.

Critics suspect the same may happen here.

“A divisive commission to consider reparations is unworkable,” Republican Senate Minority Leader Rob Ortt wrote in a statement. “As we’ve seen in California, I am confident this commission’s recommendations will be unrealistic, will come at an astronomical cost to all New Yorkers, and will only further divide our state.”

I can easily predict how the New York reparations panel will behave. To begin with, after scores of “listening” sessions that are filled with anti-white rhetoric, the amount of reparations will steadily increase. In California, the first demands from the panel would have cost $500 billion (more than the total state budget at the time)…and then the commission increased the amount to $800 billion.

The reparations commission will then make special demands of the state. There will be requests to close prisons and restore civil privileges to felons. There will be demands for a wealth tax (e.g., mansion tax) in the name of equity and fairness.

New York GOP Chairman Ed Cox clearly has watched the California reparations panel in action. He also expects complete failure and even more racial division.

…Cox slammed Hochul’s signing as “misguided” and criticized her for not focusing on other challenges facing the state, like the recent influx of migrants from the U.S.-Mexico border.

“Governor Hochul’s decision to endorse this divisive and unproductive reparations study is misguided,” Cox said in a statement. “Instead of focusing on the issues that truly matter to New Yorkers, like our ongoing immigration crisis, crime, and the exodus of residents from our state, she’s chosen to reopen old wounds and stoke racial tensions for political gain.”

As a reminder, California was not a slave state. New York was not a slave state. It also contributed about 465,000 soldiers to the Union armed forces (more than any other state). Over 50,000 of them died. I would argue that the reparations commission should simply meet and offer its sincere gratitude to the New York soldiers who served and died during the Civil War.

But sadly, we live in an era when real heroes are forgotten, and many want to get special privileges based on their self-acclaimed victim status.

As a Californian, I do have some good news to share with my New York friends. I suspect the New York Commission’s numbers and suggestions will be ignored…just like Newsom is ignoring his commission’s demands.

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Comments

Blacks will wind up owing whites trillions if they do the economics right.

    JohnSmith100 in reply to rhhardin. | December 20, 2023 at 8:55 am

    The truth is that they already received more than they deserve. Welfare, cost of prosecution and incardination. Endless Affirmative unearned perks. A huge transfer of real estate equity. Enough black bullshit.

    Those with average and above average intelligence are well equipped to function in society, namely 15% of blacks who have IQs 100 and up. The other 85% should receive exactly the same treatment as all people of any other race receive, find a job within their level of competence.

    NY can continue this kind of BS and watch as more productive leave with their assets.

    If one happens to be from New York, they could help by getting appointed to the commission and taking aim at the stock market, big law firms and tons of big businesses that call the state home.
    Imagine telling those “woke” companies how much of their profits they need to give to blacks. DEI & ESG in all it’s glory.

The Gentle Grizzly | December 20, 2023 at 7:11 am

I would expect nothing different from her.

AF_Chief_Master_Sgt | December 20, 2023 at 7:20 am

Has anyone considered reparations for the descendants of the large number of white Union soldiers who fought and died to end slavery? At least the freed slaves had the option of living and gave their descendants the ability to finally live in a free country.

The Union soldiers who were killed no longer had the ability to have more children, or children at all.

BTW

The last time a state government had a reparations council, it was the first organization terminated when the budget shortfall meant that essential services would be cut.

    Almost every day, I walk in a cemetery, which has a union soldier statute surrounded by about 12 graves.

    There are places like this throughout the USA.

    What about soldiers on both sides who were maimed, and their families who were less prosperous as a result of their condition?

      It’s the Democratic Party that fought to keep blacks in chains for hundreds of years and oppressed them for another hundred years. The Democratic Party needs to atone for the evils they did to blacks over hundreds of years and reparations are the way for them to do this.

      AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to JohnSmith100. | December 20, 2023 at 6:53 pm

      While I agree, it’s the Democrats who are now erasing all remnants of Confederate soldiers and statesmen, all at the behest of BLM. Even now digging up bodies, desecrating tombs, and tearing down statues. I didn’t JR accusing me of being racist if I took the side of those horrible mean Confederates. .

Seems to me that this act is preemptive. Proof that Trump is poised to win even New York.

    JohnSmith100 in reply to George S. | December 20, 2023 at 9:04 am

    DeSantis sure F ed up, and whomever runs with Trump is likely to have 2 terms in office, meaning DeSantis will not have a crack at being president until 2036, if at all.

Buying votes.. plain and simple.

39,000 Deaths

New York had the highest number of Civil War casualties among all the states, with 39,000 deaths, which can be attributed to several factors. One major reason is that New York had a large population, which meant that more men were available to serve in the military.

The only slavery reparations that would be appropriate today are related to ECONOMIC slavery: Those who are burdened by confiscatory taxes, for the redistribution to others, should have their money returned to them.

She’s just mimicking Newsom, hoping to have his level of popularity.
She might not be thinking this through….

Slavery was a product of the South, the Confederacy
Ummm, no, sister, it was not. It simply remained in the South.
Whatever group to whom you belong, hun, was engaged in both sides of slavery at some point in history. So stop with the Emmanuel Bubba Goldstein two minutes and go back to trying to destroy Trump.

    JohnSmith100 in reply to GWB. | December 20, 2023 at 9:19 am

    Mechanization would have ended slavery anyway. Also, average IQ of early slaves was very low, at best 64, probably lower than that. Most of them would not have been able to function on their own. They were like children in adult bodies.

    Regardless of American black condition today in society, they are better off than their fellows in Africa.

      alaskabob in reply to JohnSmith100. | December 20, 2023 at 12:39 pm

      Obviously, those that down voted you haven’t been to Africa. Black run cities, black run countries… not much different. True… Chicago and Oakland are trying to mimic Harare and J’burg…. but not even close.

        Milhouse in reply to alaskabob. | December 20, 2023 at 9:08 pm

        Botswana is the exception that disproves the rule. If the Batswana could build a decent country, there’s no excuse for the other sub-Saharan Africans not doing so.

        diver64 in reply to alaskabob. | December 21, 2023 at 2:42 pm

        I downvoted his nonsense and I’ve been over some parts from Morocco to Egypt to Tanzania to Kenya to South Africa etc etc

      henrybowman in reply to JohnSmith100. | December 20, 2023 at 2:22 pm

      “Mechanization would have ended slavery anyway.”
      Our own history is proof of why that assumption is bad. Slavery was dying because the processing of cotton was becoming too labor-intensive to be economical, even using people who cost no more than livestock. Then along came the cotton gin. It revolutionized the entire industry, and revived slavery again.

      Thad Jarvis in reply to JohnSmith100. | December 20, 2023 at 2:46 pm

      So, you studied all of those IQ tests that were administered to the slaves and did the math and found the mean?

      Do you ever stop and think about how completely ridiculous you sound?

      Since IQ tests in some form only began around 1900 and about 2% of any population is at either end of the curve, above 130 or below 70, where do you come up with the information to back up such a ridiculous post? The only part of your post that isn’t silly is the last sentence which is true for the most part

Nice work NY, you elected this leftist turd.

This might cause blacks to max out their Mastercards redecorating their primary bedrooms.

Ol' Jim, hisself | December 20, 2023 at 8:49 am

I didn’t know that New York was a slave state. So, the 39,000 New Yorkers who died in the War Between the States were on the Confederate side?

    Slavery was legal there in the beginning. Just as it was pretty much everywhere in the English Empire (and most other places in the world, at the time). They only abolished slavery in 1827 (along with most of the northern states).

The only good here is Gov Hochul forcing the issue of NY and other States outside the Confederacy involvement in the establishment of slavery, the purchase and transport of slaves to the auction block. It’s about damn time mainstream Northern political figures acknowledged that, historically speaking, no State has clean hands regarding the evil of slavery. Hitting the issue head-on instead of continuing the inaccurate holier than thou BS attitude that all the profits of slavery were confined to Confederate States just might allow these States to move past it but the first step is admitting their own prominent role.

    ChrisPeters in reply to CommoChief. | December 21, 2023 at 1:28 am

    She is supposed to be the governor of the state, not a historian. I say this not to hide New York State’s history, but to point out that there are more important tasks she and the rest of the state government should be performing.

    Addressing your point, while it may be that each state has at least some history of slavery, it is important to remember HOW each state had its respective slavery history come to an end, either willingly or unwillingly.

      CommoChief in reply to ChrisPeters. | December 21, 2023 at 6:19 am

      Fair enough.

      My point is that when folks attempt to claim that b/c State X didn’t have many slaves that they are somehow innocent of the evils of slavery is simply not historically accurate. This is a coping mechanism which seeks to put 100% of responsibility onto the former Confederate States. Lets also keep in mind that slavery didn’t end with surrender at Appomattox; the 13th amendment took another 6 months to be ratified and become part of the Constitution. In fact until Gettysburg slavery wasn’t the direct issue of the war, instead it was about sectional political and economic grievances. Even then the Emancipation proclamation wasn’t about slavery b/c it didn’t apply to the Union Slave States.

      When we use the argument that State X is good but State Y is bad re Slavery it is IMO a version of the woke leftists group identity politics. Individuals should only be judged on their own actions and merits. But if we simply must get into group guilt then on the issue of slavery the States/territories in existence all had dirty hands, it’s just a question of degree and type.

        ChrisPeters in reply to CommoChief. | December 21, 2023 at 2:53 pm

        Slavery was ended in New York nearly 200 years ago.

        200!!!

        While we should never forget just how terrible the institution of slavery was, there is no point in bringing up and to the fore at this time, especially in a state that willingly eliminated it. This is really political pandering, and it may result in yet another program that increases the ECONOMIC enslavement of those who actually pay taxes. The fact that those who might end up paying for the “reparations” never had any slaves, and those who might receive the “reparations” were never themselves slaves seems not to matter to the Leftists in Albany.

        Those who want to provide “reparations” should pay for them themselves, out of their own pockets. Otherwise, they should leave the citizens alone.

How to start a civil war…promise reparations and fail to deliver.

Non-slave states paying reparations, and statues of grant and lincoln removed. CRT is such a fraud. There will be no reparations.

New York will never pay reparations. You know why? Illegals are at the front of the line and they take priority over everything else. The line gets longer every day.

Illegals coming across the border are the fire under the kettle. We are the frog in the kettle and it’s getting hotter and hotter every day. The frog’s toes are still wiggling, but unless you pull him out right now and do CPR, he’s about had it. The frog is everything that’s legal and that includes black people as well as white people.

Reparations are a Great Idea, with the Best of Intentions!
Start with the original party of slavery, secession, and segregation. Empty their bank accounts, confiscate their real estate, and strip their paid and elected officials of every last penny. Proceeds to be distributed to the inhabitants of the inner cities they’ve controlled since forever,

The latest, disgraceful, self-debasing pandering stunt for the vile Dhimmi-crats. It comes after wearing those ridiculous “kinte cloth” scarves and kneeling down in obeisance to the “Black Lives Matter” terrorist group and hate group.

Housing in Florida just went up another 20 percent as another half a million flee…🫤

I can’t stand to even look at that idiotic witch. She’s a boil on a boil on the butt of humanity as far as I’m concerned.

“What is hard to embrace is the fact that our state also flourished from that slavery.”

Oh, puh-lease. The reparation claims of all New York slaves ever could be covered by Tarrytown’s wastewater treatment budget.

What’s next -= Kathy is going to discover that every New Yorker with a Samsung phone or a North Face hoodie has “flourished” from Uighur slave labor, and appropriate reparations for them, too?

    CommoChief in reply to henrybowman. | December 20, 2023 at 4:19 pm

    How about for maritime fortunes made by shipping slaves? Or the money made by purchase of cotton and tobacco off the plantation then turned into finished products in Northern mills or shipped in bulk to English cotton mills?

    Those things are equally a part of the history of slavery. When folks reduce slavery to only the ‘plantation’ it is a very incomplete story. IMO the whole argument here for reparations over slavery is stupid; that ‘original sin’ was atoned for in the blood of 1.5 million ish casualties of the Civil War, the devastation throughout the Confederate States and the decade plus of Reconstruction. If we simply must have the debate then lets be historically accurate.

There is no upside to this. I hope that I am wrong but I just see a lot of unfulfilled expectations leading to more anger.

If you don’t like slavery, don’t own a slave.

Maybe they could shift their focus to reparations to those whe really get shafted – the Indians who sold Manhattan for $24 in trinkets?

If they want to pay reparations, fine. Just create a VOLUNTARY fund to which proponents may contribute (with after-tax dollars). The amount collected can be the amount distributed.

Another joke move from a dangerous, unserious person. This is just all about making things worse. And it will.

How about reparations paid for by the black african tribal leaders that sold blacks into slavery to both europeans and other africans?

This is no more than virtue signalling. Show us the $$$.