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Biden Admin To Desecrate Graves In Removal Of Civil War Memorial From Arlington National Cemetery

Biden Admin To Desecrate Graves In Removal Of Civil War Memorial From Arlington National Cemetery

“House Republicans are aiming to block the Pentagon from removing a Confederate memorial from Arlington National Cemetery.”

The Democrats’ march to Year Zero continues apace with the Biden regime’s proposed removal of a Civil War Memorial that marks the grave of the memorial’s Jewish sculptor who is buried at its base. The memorial’s removal would also necessarily desecrate the graves of numerous Confederate soldiers buried nearby.

The memorial is intended to celebrate the post-war reconciliation of the North and South, a celebration of unity that apparently rankles Democrats and their rabid desire for division and destruction.

View Carl’s entire thread on this travesty here. Carl also wrote a piece about this at the American Conservative.

House Republicans, only 44 of them, have written a letter urging the Pentagon to postpone the removal of the memorial.

Fox News reports:

House Republicans are aiming to block the Pentagon from removing a Confederate memorial from Arlington National Cemetery.

A group of GOP lawmakers led by Rep. Andrew Clyde, R-Ga., wrote a letter to Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin on Monday demanding he keep the Reconciliation Monument, also known as the Confederate Memorial, in place until the end of the fiscal year 2024 appropriations process.

The monument was slated for removal by the Pentagon’s Naming Commission, a panel tasked with renaming and removing military installations named after the Confederacy in the wake of the summer 2020 Black Lives Matter protests.

But Clyde argued that the memorial was dedicated to American unity following the Civil War rather than honoring the Confederacy, and that it would desecrate the graves of Confederate troops buried there.

. . . . “[T]he Reconciliation Monument does not honor nor commemorate the Confederacy; the memorial commemorates reconciliation and national unity.

“Furthermore, the Naming Commission’s authority explicitly prohibits the desecration of grave sites. Considering the hundreds of gravestones encircling the monument, it would be impossible for these graves to remain untouched if the Department of the Army proceeds with its proposed removal of the monument – both being a clear violation of Congress’ enacted statute and legislative intent.”

. . . . It’s slated to be moved to a site owned by the Virginia Military Institute, according to local outlet Cardinal News.

You can read the full text of the letter from (far too few) House Republicans at the Fox News link.

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The Left won’t be happy until they have erased American history and destroyed the United States, and maybe not even then. They are doing everything they possibly can to provoke a civil war.

They need to be careful what they wish for…

There can never be any reconciliation. This is beyond obvious.

    smooth in reply to alaskabob. | December 17, 2023 at 8:54 am

    Protestors ripped down statues of gen grant, because grant’s wife had slave before civil war. Lincoln statues getting removed other places. They don’t want reconciliation.

      Crawford in reply to smooth. | December 17, 2023 at 6:54 pm

      A trio of idiots decided to hold a BLM protest in front of the Grant Memorial in one of the towns he lived, Bethel, OH. Ten times as many locals showed up and chased them away.

      The only blemish was one idiot got physical.

        smooth in reply to Crawford. | December 17, 2023 at 8:13 pm

        Lefties toppled Grant statue in park in SF, and replaced it with some of the most hideous black sculpture ever created. They don’t want reconciliation, they want to re-open old wounds and rub salt in it.

        The only blemish was one idiot got physical.
        That was a blemish?

      david7134 in reply to smooth. | December 18, 2023 at 2:22 pm

      Grant owned a slave himself. He was a horrible murderer. Why did Lincoln choose him? Following a small battle, the CSA force retreated. His troops over ran a CSA hospital and killed all the wounded, similar to future actions by the Japanese. Lincoln approved this action and thus he became the man.

How about a move to cancel black stuff, all of it, tit for tat?

This is insane. The Dhimmi-crats are vile totalitarians. One can see why these reprobates are gleeful ideological bedfellows with communists and Muslim supremacists.

These Maoist/Islamist acts of vindictive historical erasure and defacement signify not enlightenment and moral probity, as the Dhimmi-crats foolishly believe, but rather obnoxious and fascistic agitprop. They are a means of disrespecting our country’s history — warts and all — vilifying the U.S. as an allegedly irredeemably racist country, and, controlling the historical narrative, going forward.

Shelby Foote:

It was close to 4 o’clock by now, and all that protocol required had been performed. After nearly three hours in the McLean parlor — half of one spent waiting and the rest in what could scarcely be called negotiation, since his adversary had freely given all he asked and more than he had hoped for: including immunity, down the years, from prosecution on any charge whatever in connection with the war — Lee was free to go. He rose, shook hands with Grant again, bowed to the others, and passed from the room, followed by Marshall. Out on the porch, several blue-clad officers came to attention and saluted as he emerged. He put on his hat to return their salute, then crossed to the head of the steps leading down to the yard. There he drew on his gauntlets, distractedly striking the fist of one hand three times into the palm of the other as he looked out across the valley to where the men of his army were waiting to learn that they had been surrendered. “Orderly! Orderly!” he called hoarsely, not seeing Tucker close by with Traveller, whose bit had been slipped to let him graze. “Here, General, here,” Tucker replied, and Lee came down the steps to stand by the horse’s head while he was being bridled. A cavalry major, watching from the porch, noted that “as the orderly was buckling the throat latch, the general reached up and drew the forelock out from under the brow band, parted and smoothed it, and then gently patted the gray charger’s forehead in an absent-minded way, as one who loves horses, but whose thoughts are far away, might unwittingly do.” Mounted, Lee waited for Marshall and Tucker, then started at a walk across the yard. Grant had come out of the house and down the steps by then, also on his way to the gate where his own horse was tethered. Stopping, he removed his hat in salute, as did the staff men with him. Lee raised his own hat briefly in return, and passed out through the gate and up the road. Presently, northward beyond the dwindled, tree-lined Appomattox, listeners on the porch heard cheers, and then a poignant silence.

    smooth in reply to rhhardin. | December 16, 2023 at 8:40 pm


    alaskabob in reply to rhhardin. | December 16, 2023 at 11:02 pm

    Who… in their right mind would down vote this? The bloodiest war in American history that tore apart a country. What further tore it apart? The Southern sympathizer actor filled with hate and not knowing that Lincoln’s plan was to let the South up easy… to heal the wounds. What further tore it apart? The reaction to Lincoln’s assassination and the revenge on the South unbridled now without Lincoln. What is tearing the US apart … the obviously vengeful admin that is sifting out anyone who peacefully protested on J6 and got caught up in the (successful) choreographed “insurrection” and now… and soon… anyone that is opposed to the administration and its ilk. Halstead’s rules included that a surgeon can’t cut across a cancer and expect healing. May we add that one can’t heal evil.

      Close The Fed in reply to alaskabob. | December 17, 2023 at 2:00 pm

      Agree about the downvotes.

      But Lincoln didn’t have to have that war, he was a tyrant.

        Lincoln wasn’t even in office when the secession started, and the southerners fired on Fort Sumter.

          Milhouse in reply to Crawford. | December 17, 2023 at 8:44 pm

          He wasn’t in office when the secession started, but that didn’t mean he had to have a war. He could have let the extremist states secede peacefully, which would have kept Virginia in the Union.

          He was in office when the Confederacy fired on Fort Sumter, and he was responsible for that by insisting on resupplying the fort rather than evacuating it, or negotiating permission to resupply. The fort had to be evacuated the day after it was attacked anyway, so what would the Union have lost had it been evacuated in an orderly and peaceful fashion?

          Accepting secession would not only have allowed the Union to ban slavery, it would also have moved the northern terminus of the Underground Railroad from Canada to the southern border of Virginia, and thus quickly emptied the northern tier of the Confederacy of slaves, whereupon those states were likely to turn slowly against slavery, leading to its eventual abolition in the Confederacy too.

          david7134 in reply to Crawford. | December 17, 2023 at 9:07 pm

          Lincoln started the war. You are not told that he sent a fleet of armed vessels to Charleston harbor, precipitating the war. Then he shredded the constitution. The man was horrible.

        “But Lincoln didn’t have to have that war, he was a tyrant”

        This is perhaps the most insidious thing the left is accomplishing.

        Getting the right to openly abhor their first president using the anti-Lincoln propaganda spewed forth by Democrats in the past to hang him.

        You are vilifying Lincoln using the words of people who lionize Roosevelt, a man who literally put American citizens in actual concentration camps without trial or conviction.

        Lincoln’s only ‘tyranny’ is that he didn’t let the Dems do whatever they wanted.

        And here’s the kicker–if enough of the right can be made to openly despise Lincoln, THE LEFT will quickly seize on that as proof that the right was always the party of slavery.

        Morons. You’re being played.

          david7134 in reply to Azathoth. | December 18, 2023 at 2:15 pm

          I am afraid that you are wrong. The South did not want Lincoln due to his politics and the terrorism that we were experiencing from the North. The issue of slavery was settled, the North passed a bill to become an amendment which would guarantee slavery to this day, Lincoln supported this 13th amendment, he did not support the current 13th amendment. The desire of Lincoln was to abolish the Constitution and replace it with a Marxist Socialist government, which he did.

    david7134 in reply to rhhardin. | December 18, 2023 at 2:24 pm

    Lee later said that he regretted that surrender more than anything after he saw the way the South was treated,

Biden. Desecration. Hat and glove.

We thought the Taliban blowing up 6th century Buddha statues was horrendous.
Those were the good old days

How is it that the Feds are protected from breaking the law? They are doing it here. They broke laws with censorship and said, “It is not illegal if we get away with it”. They break laws all the time, but they are never suffer criminal prosecution.

    Dathurtz in reply to InEssence. | December 17, 2023 at 7:21 am

    You’re ruled. That’s how. Me, too. Too many people concerned with bread and circuses while our freedoms were stripped over 100 years.

    The government can do what it wants. If you object the FBI can just say you’re a terrorist or put child pornography on your computer and “conservatives” will clap like seals at your arrest.

Democrats: Trump is a treat to Democracy!
Also Democrats: What laws stop us desecrating war graves 😂😂
taliban: Looks on approvingly as Democrats destroy statues with glee.

“Who controls the past controls the future: who controls the present controls the past.”

George Orwell

Desecrating black grave sites is hate crime. White grave sites not so much?

    Milhouse in reply to smooth. | December 17, 2023 at 7:36 am

    Desecrating black grave sites is hate crime

    No, it isn’t. Not unless it’s (a) a crime in the first place, and (b) done because the people buried in them are black. The exact same thing is true of white graves. Desecrating them may or may not be a crime, depending on what exactly the desecration consists of and who is doing it, but even if it is, it is not a hate crime and is not prosecuted as one.

      mailman in reply to Milhouse. | December 17, 2023 at 1:16 pm

      Sarcasm, you intellectual f88king pigmy 😂😂

      Crawford in reply to Milhouse. | December 17, 2023 at 6:48 pm

      Desecrating Confederate graves is a hate crime. Destroying a memorial to reconciliation, erected by THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THROUGH THE CIVIL WAR, is a hate crime.

      This won’t stop with this statue — the woke crowd already targeted the removal of the Emancipation Memorial, because it shows Lincoln and a freed slave. Never mind it was funded by freedmen and the freed slave depicted was the last man arrested under the Fugitive Slave Act. And in Chicago they’ve removed a statue of Lincoln from a Chicago-area park.

      You ever watched the video of the fight at Chicago’s Grant Park between progzis who wanted to tear down the Columbus statue and the police? We either stop this crap now, or we’ll see that everywhere.

        Milhouse in reply to Crawford. | December 17, 2023 at 8:50 pm

        Desecrating Confederate graves is a hate crime.

        No, it isn’t. Even if it’s a crime, it’s not motivated by the victims’ race, but by their actions.

        Destroying a memorial to reconciliation, erected by THE PEOPLE WHO LIVED THROUGH THE CIVIL WAR, is a hate crime.

        No, that’s not even a crime, when it’s done by the government that own is, and therefore has the legal right to do with it whatever it likes.

        Deliberately undoing the reconciliation that healed the nation is a very very bad policy. But it isn’t a crime, and it also isn’t motivated by hatred of white people.

There’s always some way to get free publicity for a floundering lawyer. Don’t give up.

This is a violation of the statue of lamentations.

Marxism always destroys history, as it turns education into indoctrination. We learn from history, and they want no learning but from them. For the last half century or more, our children are taught WHAT to think, never how to reason, or deduce. History is made of pride of accomplishments and lessons learned. Nothing about Marxism shows well in history, so it must be expunged.

The Nation made deliberate choices in the post Civil War era to heal the wounds and work together towards reconciliation. Those choices helped to put a lid on resentment and sectional grievances. Today we seem to be tossing those efforts out. Renaming Military Bases to wipe Confederate names and now literally removing a statute dedicated to peaceful reconciliation. I don’t think the folks doing this understand the importance of symbols. Some folks will view this act as open hostility done for no better reason than a display of power; IOW simple bullying. Always a bad idea to deliberately PO people IMO. Angry people make emotional decisions.

    Renaming ships as well. These fools renamed the cruiser Chancellorsville because the “baddies” won that battle. Nevermind the over 7,ooo federal soldiers who gave the last full measure of devotion in that battle, oh no, we can’t honor them because they were “suckers and losers”.

    Ironically, we still have a cruiser named Chosin, another battle the “baddies” won. They wouldn’t dare imply those Marines were “suckers and losers”, would they? Or maybe they just haven’t thought of it yet.

    We have the very worst kind of raving jackasses in charge of our country.

      Crawford in reply to CDR D. | December 17, 2023 at 6:42 pm

      But they renamed the Chancellorsville for a Republican Congressman who showed just how wrong (and evil) the Democrats were. The Democrats eventually rewrote state constitutions, passed Jim Crow laws, and filed false criminal charges against freedmen in elected office.

      BTW, that man has TWO US ships named for him — the USS Robert Smalls (the renamed Chancellorsville) and the USAV Brigadier General Robert Smalls, an Army supply transport.

    david7134 in reply to CommoChief. | December 17, 2023 at 12:24 pm

    Uh, no. There was not mutual reconciliation. There were Yankees telling us what we would do and when, before and after the war and to this day. We desire our freedom.

      CommoChief in reply to david7134. | December 17, 2023 at 3:25 pm

      Of course there was reconciliation. It wasn’t smooth and wasn’t instant but largely speaking it existed. As a Bama native who moved back home I understand how much the holier than thou BS of northern leftists grates but what exactly are the ‘Yankees’ preventing you from doing?

      Milhouse in reply to david7134. | December 17, 2023 at 9:20 pm

      Fine. Have it your way. If there was no reconciliation then the Confederacy was an evil empire, an enemy of the USA and everything it stands for, which we rightly defeated and crushed into the ground, and we must continue to do so. Allowing Confederate memorials is exactly the same as allowing Nazi memorials. Are you OK with that?

      The alternative is reconciliation. We had a fight in the family, the right side won, and then we put the family back together and we honor what is honorable in both factions.

        david7134 in reply to Milhouse. | December 17, 2023 at 9:27 pm

        I consider the US an evil empire. Maybe if you read some you would have a different way of looking at it. Try books by Walter Kennedy.

          Milhouse in reply to david7134. | December 18, 2023 at 8:37 am

          In that case you are an enemy of the USA, exactly the same as al Qaeda, Iran, the Taliban, and the Houthi, and you deserve to be treated the same as them. Drop dead.

          As for Donnie Kennedy, I’d as soon read Al Sharpton.

          You seem to be an enemy of the USA. Your statements here are of the worst sort of Southern Democrat tripe from the early 20th century.

        Dathurtz in reply to Milhouse. | December 17, 2023 at 9:44 pm

        The evil empire won.

    Dathurtz in reply to CommoChief. | December 17, 2023 at 8:10 pm

    I had ancestors murdered by that war criminal Sherman. And then I had to grow up in a county named for Grant and a town named for Sheridan.

    Reconciliation was a myth, anyways.

    Milhouse in reply to CommoChief. | December 17, 2023 at 8:59 pm

    Yes, this exactly. I understand people wondering why we are honoring a defeated enemy of the USA. They see such statues the same way we would see a statue honoring the Germans (WW1 or WW2), or al Qaeda.

    But the key point that they are missing is that the CSA is not a defeated enemy. The modern USA is the successor, not only of the USA of the 1860s, but also of the CSA. We reunited and became one nation again, which means both sides are part of our heritage, and it behooves us to honor both. We are the spiritual children of the Union and the Confederacy, and that’s why we have statues honoring the more reputable and honorable members of the Confederacy, such as General Lee, as well as the thousands who died honorably for their states. If the two sides in WW1 can honor each others’ war dead, then surely we, who are from both sides, can do the same.

      This is pretty beautiful, Milhouse.

      david7134 in reply to Milhouse. | December 17, 2023 at 9:09 pm

      The CSA is an occupied country, we are not one.

        Milhouse in reply to david7134. | December 17, 2023 at 9:23 pm

        In that case you deserve to be crushed and to remain crushed, and you do not deserve to be allowed to vote. You are a conquered and defeated enemy, and should remember that and keep your mouth shut. Does that make you happier?

        I’d rather remember what was good and honorable on both sides. There were good people on both sides, after all.

          david7134 in reply to Milhouse. | December 17, 2023 at 9:29 pm

          I consider the US an evil empire. Maybe if you read some you would have a different way of looking at it. Try books by Walter Kennedy.

          Now that is the attitude of all the Yankees I have known.

        CommoChief in reply to david7134. | December 18, 2023 at 8:54 am

        Nah Cuz that’s crazy. We are well past that era. You need to take a cue from Gen Forrest addressing his Troops after the surrender of the CSA:

        ‘You have been good Soldiers. You can be good Citizens. Obey the laws, preserve your honor and the Government to which you have surrendered can afford to be and will be magnanimous’.

        IMO, Forrest was the most talented Gen to emerge in the Civil War and certainly one of the most determined to bring the the fight to the enemy despite the odds. If he can accept can honorable defeat and urge reconciliation then that’s good enough for me.

          Dathurtz in reply to CommoChief. | December 18, 2023 at 10:51 am

          If only they had been magnanimous.

          CommoChief in reply to CommoChief. | December 18, 2023 at 11:23 am

          The assassination of Lincoln opened the door for the radicals who were hell bent on a period of occupation and punishment. That this also allowed great fortunes to made by those carpet baggers who could then provide $ to politicians in Congress b/c the grifters were interested in ‘good govt’ defined as keeping the gravy train rolling, was a plus in their eyes.

          Many folks don’t know much about reconstruction or understand how many rights were suspended in this period. The reconciliation was in many ways deferred until the WWI era. Even then the residents of the South were largely viewed as unintelligent red necks. The TVA and other rural electrification programs brought the South to modernity. A few exceptions for cities like Birmingham whose location on coal and iron deposits allowed it grow into a steel producing giant. Then the WWII era creation/expansion of military bases, named for Confederate figures, which brought needed hard dollars into the rural South.

          It was long process. Including the turbulent late ’50s and ’60s era civil rights movement. In many ways the South was able to move past the segregation era policies b/c they were forced to confront the issues head on. While Northern residents were smugly chiding the backward South that switched once their own tacit school segregation was undermined with bussing.

      Confederate General Longstreet, a close friend of General Grant’s from West Point days, worked hard for reconciliation, and even suffered a wound in a post-war skirmish with unreconstructed rebels in Louisiana where he had been Adjutant General of the state’s militia.

      His epiphany came at Appomattox. The war was over for him, and it was time to reunite and move on.

Over the years I have read a number of Civil War diaries written by southern women. They endured: hunger, starvation, assault, in some cases torture (yes, by Union foragers), the total loss of a way of life, fear, thievery, At the conclusion of hostilities there was an overwhelming sense of loss and sadness but none of them wrote of hatred or the desire for revenge. If those who lived through this war both North and South, could put it behind them and become ‘reconciled’ what right does anyone today have to do otherwise?

    david7134 in reply to lexi. | December 17, 2023 at 12:22 pm

    I live in the South. There is no reconciliation. We desire our freedom and the Obama and Biden group are what we have been dealing with for 200 years.

      Milhouse in reply to david7134. | December 17, 2023 at 9:25 pm

      If that’s what you desire, then you do not deserve to have it. If that’s what you desire then you should have no vote, and should be forced to do whatever the Union, as your conquerer and rightful master, tells you.

      Azathoth in reply to david7134. | December 18, 2023 at 10:14 am

      “I live in the South. ”

      I bet you do.

      Probably born in the north and living out some idiot rebel fantasy

        david7134 in reply to Azathoth. | December 18, 2023 at 2:19 pm

        I know I am talking above my station in life and that it is wrong to challenge my Yankee masters, but there is no call to call me a Yankee. I will meet you at the Oaks, send your second.

          I grew up in the South and now live in the South. I imbibed Civil War history and the history of Texas like a baby drinks from its mother’s breast. You slander the South.

          Come to my place and I will gladly face you. Though I am not as good as I once was, I am as good once as I ever was, and I will uphold Southern pride in proper fashion.

          You speak of ancient grievances once resolved. Much as the BLM folks do. That is my glove.

          david7134 in reply to david7134. | December 18, 2023 at 5:44 pm

          And exactly how do I slander the South? By standing up to the ignorance of a bunch of Yankees. Maybe I have become sick of them. In over 70 years in Mississippi, Texas, and Louisiana, I have had it. Now we do not have elections and morals are completely turned upside down. If you point this out with a Southern accent, you are a white supremacist. This crowd has never met one. I read some history with T. Harry Williams, he pointed us in the right direction and demonstrated how broken the peer review is in history such that we are left with myths and lies. He even had to write a favorable book on Lincoln in order to maintain his credentials.

    oldsouthern in reply to lexi. | December 17, 2023 at 2:54 pm

    It’s there….even noted in one of the latter episodes of Ken Burns series, Union soldiers bodies dumped in a well had pitchforks in their backs, long after death in battle….and I have personally experienced overt acts of aggression from
    Southerners as a “border stater” (Ohioan) starting from childhood over 50 years ago, even though my paternal family started in the south at turn of 19th century…

      Crawford in reply to oldsouthern. | December 17, 2023 at 6:31 pm

      Grew up so close to the Ohio I could hear trains in Kentucky when the weather was right, and never had any issue like that.

      I am not saying there was zero hatred or desire for revenge. However in none of the writings of the time I have read does this come across as a acts of violence towards individuals. They mourn the loss, sure. They describe the ways the freed slaves were elevated by the federal soldiers over their former masters in ways calculated to infuriate and insult.
      I marvel how despite the bloodshed and rancor and hostility as the years passed after Appomattox the nation as a whole was able to come together.
      What I see now happening is that the ‘powers that be’ are treating anyone who disagrees with them as an enemy, they are treating any symbols of the past that do not stroke the delicate sensibilities of today’s ‘youth’ black, white whatever, as something which must be treated as a symbol of an enemy.
      What they risk creating is a real enemy where up until now there was merely a difference of opinion. And then there is no turning back.

    Crawford in reply to lexi. | December 17, 2023 at 6:34 pm

    Robert Smalls, freedman and Republican Congressman from South Carolina, bought his the home of his former “master” and let the guy’s mother live out her life there.

    david7134 in reply to lexi. | December 18, 2023 at 2:30 pm

    “Reconciled” to the North is a totally subjugated. An example is the Indian who was hunted to extermination and “allowed” to live on reservations of the governments choosing. We are fed up with the boot on our neck.

      What precisely is this ‘boot on our neck; to which you refer ? Is it the boot of the tax collectors coming to your house, what is left of it, assessing a value they know cannot be paid? Is it the boot of hunger as you try and find scraps left behind by foragers after they have looted your farm? Is it the boot of fear as a young woman sees her mother’s leg burned in a fire by looters trying to get her to reveal where her valuables are hidden? Is it the boot of uncertainty as to where your next meal will come from? These are some ‘boots’ on the necks of the southerners during the war.
      So I am curious as to what boot you are feeling today?

one of the roles of the chief executive is commander-in-chief–if fjb were any sort of warrior, any sort of commander, any sort of man at all he would stop this desecration himself, in an instant–in the process telling all these whining, demanding, disrespectful ” progressives ” to ” grow up or shut up ”

one thing is certain–no fjb nor any of his ilk will ever diminish the honor and sacrifice of our veterans

So… “with malice towards none” is inactive now?

    Dathurtz in reply to Crawford. | December 17, 2023 at 9:28 pm

    Always was.

      CommoChief in reply to Dathurtz. | December 18, 2023 at 9:08 am

      The assassination of Lincoln led to radicals jumping the shark. Not to mention the opportunities for graft, grift and corruption by the ‘reconstruction’ era gov’t. This was the only period since Independence that States were occupied.

      Those outside the South often lack an awareness of how much the legacy of reconstruction lingers down here and how much resentment still lies underneath. That’s why the symbols of reconciliation, which came long after the reconstruction period, are so important.

      Tearing them down and erasing them makes folks wonder if a neo reconstruction is next. Far fetched? Y’all decide but be sure to include the context of ‘deplorables, flyover country, Jesus land’ along with the all the Federal policies that seem to deliberately target rural areas.

        Dathurtz in reply to CommoChief. | December 18, 2023 at 11:01 am

        Fully with ya on all of that.

        I am beginning to wonder how long before Confederate cemeteries will be targeted and the sacred dead buried there deemed ‘offensive’.

        The coming (well, here, really) “reconstruction” is actually expanded from The South. It now includes most of the states that were being fought over in the Kansas Compromise and such – most of the territory west of the Mississippi to the Cascades. Anywhere those sorts of people – unenlightened by Progressivism – live.

        This is why so many talk about a “divorce” and discuss cutting out the cities from the states electorally. The division is probably as bad as a lot of the talk before the War Between The States. Do modern gov’ts have the same pride in sovereignty they did 170 years ago? Some might….

        Good comments from you, here, CommoChief.

          CommoChief in reply to GWB. | December 18, 2023 at 5:09 pm

          Than you for your kind words. I agree that there seem to be some growing similarities between pre civil war era and today. I would put it as more like the era of the ‘tariffs of abominations’ and the nullification crisis in terms of mood/sectarianism/regionalism.

Lincoln Memorial steps vandalized with ‘Free Gaza’ graffiti.