Hochul Announces 18,000 Jobs Across New York for Venezuelan Migrants
No jobs for homeless people?
New York Gov. Kathy Hochul announced 18,000 jobs with almost 400 employers in the state for Venezuelan migrants.
“Migrants and asylum seekers came here to work — so let’s put them to work,” said Hochul. “Right now, we have a migrant crisis and a workforce crisis. By connecting work-eligible individuals with jobs and opportunity in New York, we can solve them both and secure a brighter future for all New Yorkers.”
The Biden administration granted Venezuelans Temporary Protected Services, which allows them to receive legal work status within 30 days.
New York City has at least half of the jobs available for the migrants:
Seemingly coordinating with Mayor Eric Adams’ controversial decompression strategy to lessen the burden on New York City, the identified job openings are also spread across the Capital Region, central region, Finger Lakes, Hudson Valley, Long Island, Mohawk Valley, North Country, Southern Tier, Western Region.
New York City has the most job openings for eligible asylum seekers with 9,801 positions.
The state identified 2,896 openings in Hudson Valley and 1,294 openings on Long Island, despite local officials in both areas either openly opposing or fighting in court against Adams’ efforts to relocate mostly male migrants to motels for extended months-long stays.
Accommodation/food service businesses make up 24% of the jobs.
Healthcare/social assistance came in second at 21%.
Doesn’t New York City have a homeless problem? Why can’t those 9,000 jobs go to them instead?
In July, The New York Post reported that the city’s homeless problem jumped 18% in the past year:
The uptick in homelessness comes after the Adams administration had made aggressive efforts to tackle the humanitarian crisis including enforcement, sweeps and outreach efforts. Yet, the city has returned to pre-pandemic levels when then-Mayor Bill de Blasio was frequently criticized for not doing enough to resolve the issue.
“Over this past year, our agency has responded to a massive humanitarian crisis while ensuring that we are effectively delivering on our mission to address homelessness in New York City,” said Social Services Commissioner Molly Wasow Park, who oversees the Department of Homeless Services, in a statement.
The city has at least 100,000 homeless people. In January, the Homeless Outreach Population Estimate counted 4,042 people on the streets and subway platforms.
All the efforts in 2022 only moved “119 people out of homeless New Yorkers living in the encampments into the shelter system.”
That’s only 5%.
In January, the shelter had 47 people. Officials only secured housing for three people.
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Never-mind the homeless that need jobs (98% of them aren’t qualified to do anything, that’s why they are chronically homeless) —
What about all the folks on general public assistance?
Are the Venezuelans to do the jobs that our own poor on assistance can’t or won’t do?
Yes. Got a problem with that? The jobs need doing. And it’s not politically acceptable (to either party) to cut off the assistance in order to force our own poor to do them.
And some of these jobs Americans won’t do at any price. I once worked on a dairy farm, and the manager told me they have tried to hire US citizens to do the work that’s needed, offering good wages, and couldn’t find anyone willing to do it. The few they did find quit on their first day.
“Doing jobs Americans won’t do”
And that ridiculous meme is exactly how the welfare system got so totally abused and out of any sense of reasonableness/balance.
The reality is that they will do the jobs if we stop paying them NOT to. Hunger is a major motivator. Go watch a period movie about the depression. The Grapes of Wrath maybe.
“Will work for food” wasn’t just a punch line then.
Go watch clips of Jack Dempsey talking about his many fights for 2 dollars so he could eat. He had to get up after being knocked down or go hungry.
Also read about James Braddock winning the heavy weight championship to get off assistance and feed his family. Or just watch the movie Cinderella man based off his story.
Or just read about legal immigrants from Asia, Africa, South America or Eastern Europe who are happy to get any job to live in America. Typically their children study hard, work hard and succeed in business, the professions and just life in general.
Perhaps b/c they don’t have sufficient motivation to take the job they are qualified for, even if it requires little to no skills, to prevent starvation. IMO the unemployment system and the welfare system should be combined. You list your qualifications and you get job match(s) and assigned a job. You get three refusals before being cut off from all public support programs.
Work and earn a wage or figure out how to keep from starving on your own. That’s the actual choice that we need to present. Family can carry some unproductive turd if they choose. A charity can do it with privately raised funds. Leave the taxpayer in position of providing temporary assistance to those who are determined to make the effort to help themselves.
It’s also worth observing that the illegals for the most part came from societies that don’t have welfare and where you are responsible for you. No nanny state to feed you, cloth you, put a roof over your head, etc..
So they have a built-in work ethic. Until they find out about welfare that is.
That may be so, but it’s not the Venezuelans’ fault, or even Hochul’s. The entitlement system is what it is, and people with that to fall back on are unwilling to do certain jobs for what those jobs are worth.
Some of them they’re willing to do for more money, but the amount they’d be willing to do them for is more than the work is worth, so it makes no sense to pay that much. The employer is better off not having the work done at all than paying more than they could possibly make from it.
And some, like the dairy farm jobs I mentioned above, Americans will simply not do. Maybe if starvation were the actual alternative they would, but we are rich enough a society that we won’t allow people to starve; even if there is no welfare (as there shouldn’t be) there will be private charity. So Americans are unwilling to muck out cows, even for $20 an hour.
And this is strange, in a society where unpoor people muck out horses for fun.
Other than that whole illegal alien who shouldn’t be here in the first place thing…
Good lord, why don’t we just send all our money to Venezuela? Why don’t you go down there and help them? Why do Americans have to pay for every poor downtrodden person on earth?
Why shouldn’t every person on earth that is poor be invited to come here?
Barry, make up your mind. If you don’t want to pay for all these Venezuelans then you should be delighted that Hochul is helping them find jobs so you won’t have to.
Indeed, why shouldn’t every person on earth that is poor be invited to come here and work?
…says a guy who probably never got laid off after being tasked to train his own H1B replacement at 70% of his salary…
You’re confusing won’t with don’t. Given the Jack Dempsey example, you’d find that to ward off starvation, one might be motivated to clean up after a few cows
If the jobs need doing, pay enough to get them done. Make it easier to get off the dole and work, and punish companies that prefer non-citizens over citizens.
We owe foreign nationals NOTHING. They have homes; let them return to them. If their homeland is intolerable, let them change it.
yes I have a problem with that because they should not be here in the first place. I say send them back to where they came from. They should not be given anything. There is a process to follow and our demented puppet of a president is ignoring it and should be removed from office.
How do you imagine Hochul can send them anywhere they don’t want to go?
It’s called salesmanship. Abbot apparently has it.
America does not need more dumb people, Venezuela’s average IQ is 84. We should be recruiting people with an IQ of at least 100, it boils down to competiveness.
Democrats need their slaves. Smart slaves aren’t tractable. That’s why they made it a crime to teach ’em how to read.
And as a second thought, once the illegal immigrants have state ‘jobs’, they get benefits to go with drivers licenses. And of course there will be pressure to let them vote. Presto — new Democrats!
Not Democrats, Communists. We must recognize our adversaries.
Sun Tzu
Aren’t they the same now days?
Charity does not begin at home…. it starts and ends with The Party. Spoiler Alert: The Democrat Party may find that Cloward and Piven were not their saviors after all.
Good send more, lots more
So Hochul announces taking 18k jobs away from low-income US citizens and giving them to illegal immigrants, thus shorting 18k voters in favor a group who have no local ties or loyalties.
No, she’s offering jobs that are currently going begging. Jobs that need someone to do them, and no US citizens are available who are willing to do them. So give them to the Venezuelans, who do want them.
She’s offering jobs that employers aren’t willing to pay people enough to do-with other options like welfare available.
Walmart, Wegman’s, convenience stores, and fast food places, here in the middle of nowhere NY, are no longer open 24/7. Why? No one is willing to work the overnight shifts for what the employers will pay. The covidiocy killed off that shift of workers. The stores didn’t have enough business to stay open a third shift because of travel and other restrictions on freedom, and when the state opened back up, anyone who wanted to work was already working a non-overnight shift- and the pay differential wasn’t and isn’t enough to lure them back.
I’m in a 24/7/365 job. Next month we’re all getting a 10% yearly bonus in advance to stay for one year and not retire, quit, or move to another position. For for the first time ever. There are multiple reasons for this- but staffing qualified workers in many fields is becoming a problem.
You know, a guaranteed year is a way better idea than life insurance.
Employers have benefited from declining wages in real terms for decades. They gonna have to pay more to attract and keep workers or move to automate those positions they won’t pay for.
Automation is the way to go, it improves competiveness. 32 hr work weeks and $40 an hour, watch our auto industry lose way more jobs.
No, make our own lazy citizens work by cutting their food assistance, how about a work for food program? Daily food distributions to those who work, no work, then no food.
NYC could do that. Rather than giving out cash assistance and food stamps, tie that to doing some work the city needs done.
I suggest NY state and city fire 18,000 workers and replace them with the illegals. Also to cut costs provide only minimal unemployment benefits to the former government workers.
As Hillary said they can learn to code or even go to China to work in a mine or factory. Or to be a noble Democrat they can go to Ukraine and fight as a mercenary.
“Doesn’t New York City have a homeless problem? Why can’t those 9,000 jobs go to them instead?”
Truthfully? Because the vast majority of them aren’t interested. They have mental/social problems, drug/booze problems, or crime/record problems. In this respect, the Venezuelans may actually be a more fertile field.
There should be some way to get those with the crime/record problems back to work. Maybe provide insurance at city expense for employers willing to hire them the first year. They need jobs, otherwise they are likely to go back to crime.
Replacing them with illegal aliens (many of whom have records too in their home countries, esp. this crop of Venezuelans) is not the right way.
““Doesn’t New York City have a homeless problem? Why can’t those 9,000 jobs go to them instead?””
Because the vast majority of homeless are insane drug addicts and alcoholics.
The second largest group are the drug addicts and alcoholics. who aren’t completely insane.
It takes a bit to get to people who can be helped by anti-homelessness programs.
Because they don’t want to work. That’s why there’s a workplace crisis. These jobs have to be filled, and the homeless don’t want to fill them. The Venezuelans do. Hochul is actually right about this one.
Crazy situation….a lot of residential construction going on in my area; workforce is essentially all Hispanic, some Whites and almost never see an African American on a job site. Have been involved with two home remodels over past couple of years and problems have almost always involved “American” subs. The Hispanics work their butts off. A complete drywall install on MIL’s new home; 6-8 guys showed up at 5:30 AM, finished at 7:30 PM. New crew of finisher worked 10-12 hour days, completed 8:30 PM last night.
How about expelling 2 free loaders for each Mexican?
the illegal aliens will probably demand governor wooden teeth give them more welfare.
Homeless people are 70% addicts or crazy (plus 20% tramps and 10% out of luck). Venezuelans probably have a better work ethic.
Their work ethic does not excuse being illegal, and I bet that in a generation, they will be just as bad.
Venezuelans are special now I guess? This kind of thing can build resentment among other groups of illegals, like Mexicans, Hondurans, El Salvadorans and others.
Not so much that they’re special, just what NY got in the luck of the draw.
Think already in place large and organized voting block that the new arrivals fall right in on.
What does it mean, the state “identified” a job? If I am an employer and advertise a job, does Hochul’s office contact me and tell me they’ll be sending a Venezuelan that I must hire or must give preference to? I didn’t hear of any such op taking place.
Or are these just job openings that someone unskilled with very limited English might be able to do?
“Identified” means exactly that. They found the job postings, and will bring them to these people’s attention. There’s no requirement that you hire them, or give them any preference, but if you need a worker and they apply, complete with freshly printed legal papers saying you’re allowed to, of course you’ll hire them; why wouldn’t you?
Utter crap. The state will subsidize the make-work “jobs” and you’ll credit Hochul for being a free-market conservative.
Meanwhile, actual US citizens are left in the welfare mire and connected businesses get indentured servants for cheap.
Which one of you is right? Do you think there’s a secret subsidy here? Wouldn’t a FOIL request unearth it?
Just curious, Milhouse. What is your take on open borders? I understand your pragmatic take on the Venezuelans, but the spin of giving them immediate work papers without screening is an emergency measure. It’s to take care of a situation which in so common in other places beyond New York’s borders that it must be considered a regular occurrence not an emergency. Should all illegals be given work papers – de facto Green Cards?
Until Sep-10-2001 I was for open borders. Until Sep-10-2001 I was a big Ron Paul fan, and if you’d told me that he would make a serious run for the presidency and I would not support him I’d have laughed at you.
I’m still for effectively open borders for people who are not terrorists, criminals, or otherwise coming to attack us, or to sponge off us, and are only looking to work and support their families. If we had some foolproof way of determining who those people are, and admitting them while screening out the bad ones, I’d be all for that. Unfortunately we are not telepathic and we need to protect ourselves, so that means closed borders and designated entry points where we examine each would-be immigrant and try to detect the bad guys.
But there should be no limit on the number of good guys we let in; productive people are an asset, not a burden, and we should welcome as many as are willing to come. And immigration laws should not be used as a tool for protectionism.
None of which is relevant to the topic we’re discussing. These Venezuelans are here. There’s nothing Hochul can do about that. They can either be supported by the taxpayers, or they can get jobs and support themselves. Th0se are the only two options. Which do you prefer?
I prefer we send them back to their homes, or to countries they could have legitimately fled to as refugees. They’re not US citizens; we owe them nothing more than not abusing them.
How about special handling for illegals 2nd crime, jaywalking immediate expulsion, hard labor for slightly worse crimes, and summary execution for assault, rape or murder? No appeals for illegals.
Sending them back, or anywhere else, is not an option. The only two options Hochul has are to have the taxpayers support them or to let them support themselves. Which of those two options, which are the only ones available, do you prefer?
You overlooked expulsion.
Expulsion is not an option. Hochul has no power to do that. She can’t make them go anywhere they don’t want to. Her only options are to support them or let them support themselves. Which do you prefer?
I read a comment somewhere saying Venezuela is much safer now that this crop of criminals is gone. It this another Mariel boatlift, this time for Venezuela? We might have a bunch of criminals on our hands.
Open borders can be made to work… but never in conjunction with a welfare state. One poisons the other. And the US welfare state is too deeply ingrained now ever to be removed.
It can be made to work with a welfare state — if we are willing to create two classes of residents, those entitled to participate in the welfare state and those not entitled.
Of course I’d rather make it work without the welfare state altogether, but as you say the voters are wed to it and refuse to give it up.
18,000 new Democrat voters
She is assuming they are coming here to work. If we assume that the jobs being offered are actual jobs in demand for labor, then history shows those foreigners taking those jobs lean Republican (even a Venezuelan understands it sucks to put in a 12-hour day and then for government to take half of that to give to noon-sleeping Netflix watchers after the Covid welfare dries up).
And for those reasons, I can only conclude these jobs being offered will most likely turn out to be subsidized by NY State.
With student loan repayments coming back on line soon more folks might be interested in getting themselves various side hustles and second jobs to pay off their degree in 16th Century LatinX Lesbian Studies or whatever other non economically worthwhile BS degree these folks voluntarily chose to pursue.
I have to say that I far prefer expulsion. I would be curious to see the economic costs of repatriation compared to welfare, medical services, and housing et al.
I’d also like to make note of what I suspect to be a (major?) flaw in the
“We have jobs; they want work: give them the jobs” plan. The Devil is as always “in the details”. Let’s start with English proficiency. I wonder how many of these (your favorite descriptor here) have the proficiency to perform the duties of the jobs proffered.
The plan also doesn’t address things like the location of the jobs and how the (descriptor) will get there, and where they will live when they get there; how the jobs will be matched to the pool of (descriptor)s -will the job providers have any ability to interview or select their workers? Can they fire them? Do they any obligations beyond merely proffering work?
This is a classic Liberal Plan. It sounds great but falls apart at the very first glance.
Who was it that said,
“For every complex problem there is a simple solution…that doesn’t work.” ?
Expulsion isn’t an option. Hochul has no power to expel anyone.
I’m surprised people are not seeing this for what it is. NYC, which is a very large voter base for Hochul, tried to send the illegals out into the state and drop them off. This has caused a very large pushback. Now she is doing it anyways in the guise of jobs. Same purpose.