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Georgia State House Democrat Member Joins GOP After Party Annihilated Her Over School Choice

Georgia State House Democrat Member Joins GOP After Party Annihilated Her Over School Choice

Rep. Mesha Mainor: “The most dangerous thing to the Democrat Party is a black person with a mind of their own.”

Georgia State House Rep. Mesha Mainor is leaving the Democrat party because she didn’t toe the party line.

I know the GOP likes purity, but it’s not as obsessed as the Democrats.

Mainor said the Democrats pummeled her when she chose to support a school choice bill.

Mainor told Fox News Digital:

“When I decided to stand up on behalf of disadvantaged children in support of school choice, my Democrat colleagues didn’t stand by me,” Mainor explained of her decision in a statement to Fox News Digital. “They crucified me. When I decided to stand up in support of safe communities and refused to support efforts to defund the police, they didn’t back me. They abandoned me.”

“For far too long, the Democrat Party has gotten away with using and abusing the black community,” she added. “For decades, the Democrat Party has received the support of more than 90% of the black community. And what do we have to show for it? I represent a solidly blue district in the city of Atlanta. This isn’t a political decision for me. It’s a moral one.”

Mainor promised to continue her work ethic with both parties and will do everything she can for her constituents.

Education will remain a priority for Mainor. She mentioned a few months ago “that some schools in her district have 3% reading proficiency rates and that many kids cannot do simple math.”

I like this woman:

Mainor said that she has “been met with much encouragement” amid her decision to switch parties and noted that it’s “humbling to be embraced – for the first time in a long time – by individuals who don’t find fault in a black woman having a mind of her own and be willing to buck the party line.”

Asked whether she believes she will face pushback from Democrats over her decision, Mainor said, “The most dangerous thing to the Democrat Party is a black person with a mind of their own. So, it wouldn’t surprise me.”

Here is Mainor in March:

Mainor unleashed her anger towards the Democrats and their hypocrisy back in May.

Mainor claimed the Democrats prioritized “migrants over inner city children.” She also said the Democrats at the Capital “demanded every Democrat vote against children and for the teachers union.”

“I voted yes for parents and yes for children not failing schools,” said Mainor.

It seems Mainor understands her job. She’s heard from many parents who are frustrated over politicians putting “the teachers union and donors ahead of their constituents.”

Mainor also couldn’t believe her colleagues became angry at her for sticking to her principles.

I feel the burn:

“It’s ironic. I’ll say every election year, I hear ‘Black Lives Matter.’ But do they? I see every other minority being prioritized except Black children living in poverty that can’t read,” Mainor argued.

“We’ll send $1,000,000 to the border for immigrant services. But Black communities, not even a shout-out. I’m sorry, I don’t agree with this,” she added. “I’m not backing down and I’m actually just getting started.”

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Comments

healthguyfsu | July 11, 2023 at 6:08 pm

“I know the GOP likes purity, but it’s not as obsessed as the Democrats.”

Have you read the comments section on this blog?

    RandomCrank in reply to healthguyfsu. | July 11, 2023 at 6:55 pm

    Unfortunately true. The vast majority of knees jerk here, but Jacobsen shows the third digit of his I.Q. and so do most of the others who post. But the comment section? Not so much.

      txvet2 in reply to RandomCrank. | July 11, 2023 at 9:30 pm

      You need to get around more. Even with the needling that goes on here, it pales compared to most other blogs, no matter what the overarching political views of the blogger.

      Surprised you stick around her rather than hanging out with your buds at democratic underground.

        Thad Jarvis in reply to 4fun. | July 12, 2023 at 5:44 am

        Ah yes, if you criticize any element of the comments here, including the rabidly ignorant and racist ones masquerading as edgy humor, clearly you’re a full on communist who should go play in the Kos sandbox.

        The stupidity belongs in a museum.

          I’m not a fan of the type of humor you describe, but it IS humor, thus it’s not moderated. The left has sucked all the humor out of everything with their speech and thought policing. Let’s try to resist the urge to use their criteria to make our own decisions.

          As to the museum of political incorrectness that uses heavy-handed observations about race and sex (and everything else that is causing everyone to self-edit before they even open their mouths), that would be an amazing place to visit. This stuff is insidious, and we are all susceptible to it.

          For example, I don’t watch much that has been produced by Hollywood in the past twenty years (horrible, shrill scold crap I have no interest in), but I do catch old movies from time to time on Tubi or Pluto, and I cringe at me cringing at certain lines and scenes in classic films like Airplane, Caddyshack, Animal House, The Jerk, and etc. Heck, I even had a cringe moment rewatching Silence of the Lambs realizing that the main villain is a trans freak who is killing women to literally wear their skin and thus become a “real woman.” I hate it because I know that I have been infected by leftist thinking even as I reject it on principle. We’re all just far too sensitive and fragile these days.

    henrybowman in reply to healthguyfsu. | July 11, 2023 at 7:29 pm

    A lot of us have been burned more than once.
    So I’m not ashamed to be the skeptic this time, too.
    I mean, this is a nice story and all, and I wish her well.
    But how did she come to run as a Democrat without any idea what Democrats stood for?

      The Gentle Grizzly in reply to henrybowman. | July 11, 2023 at 8:23 pm

      I think she knows. She also knows that in her district you run as a Democrat or you lose.

        Think she’ll be re-elected? I doubt it. I’ll bet that the Donks go all-out to take her seat.

          The Gentle Grizzly in reply to alien. | July 11, 2023 at 8:36 pm

          Oh, the Democrats running a candidate against her is a certainty.

          And, to use Joe Biden’s terminology, “[she] ain’t black”. They will find some Step-n-Fetchit that will do the party’s bidding no questions asked.

          BierceAmbrose in reply to alien. | July 12, 2023 at 12:31 am

          The Feckless Rs won’t work to keep her in, either.

      Thad Jarvis in reply to henrybowman. | July 12, 2023 at 5:47 am

      Just can’t bring yourself to simply say, good for her, and acknowledge that sincere changes of heart can indeed happen based on experience. Nope, gotta be a catch, right? Nobody new can ever come into the fold? What’s the purity test you’ve established?

        CommoChief in reply to Thad Jarvis. | July 12, 2023 at 7:38 am

        One aspect of the right I abhor is the tendency of some to ‘adopt’ a person or story/narrative based on limited information that turns out to be less than we were told or worse false.

        Should we congratulate them on taking off the ideological blinders? Sure. Let them into the center/right big tent? Sure. But cosign their life story and their entire catalogue of policy preferences? Nah. A new convert to Catholicism isn’t instantly elevated to sainthood and those of us on the center/right should apply some of the same restraint. Embrace them sure but endorse them? That’s gonna take more time and evaluation.

          M Poppins in reply to CommoChief. | July 12, 2023 at 11:24 am

          There is no center

          I agree. Trust, but verify, to quote the Gipper. I experience the same wariness whenever a celebrity says they’ve found Jesus. If they are loud about it, I worry that it’s not genuine and it’s more of a publicity stunt. The ones who quietly grow in their faith, which becomes more evident in their actions/career choices…those seem to be the real deal.

        henrybowman in reply to Thad Jarvis. | July 13, 2023 at 1:42 am

        No. No, I can’t.
        I’m represented by Kyrsten Sinema, another “lapsed Democrat.”
        As i said, a lot of us have been burned more than once, and we’re not stupid.

      Ironclaw in reply to henrybowman. | July 12, 2023 at 8:46 am

      It’s not really that difficult, Democrats constantly advertise that they are the opposite of what they actually are. Lots of people think that Democrats are the party of the little guy and the

    Dimsdale in reply to healthguyfsu. | July 12, 2023 at 11:23 am

    Can you say that with a straight face in light of what the Democrats require of their acolytes?

    Watch this woman; she will be deemed “not black” by Biden et al. Now THAT’S a purity test. They routinely “eat their own” when they stray into rational thinking and common sense.

nordic prince | July 11, 2023 at 6:50 pm

“We’ll send $1,000,000 to the border for immigrant services. But Black communities, not even a shout-out.”

Wait until she finds out about all the billions of dollars being flushed down the Ukrainian toilet, while our inner cities and veterans don’t get squat.

At least she’s taking her first steps off the Democrat plantation.

JohnSmith100 | July 11, 2023 at 7:08 pm

Love how Dems keep converting their members to Independents & MAGA 🙂

    Just be careful of the voucher knee jerk. I am 100% behind school choice and am a big fan of home schooling. That said, vouchers are Federal money. With Federal money come Federal mandates–all the things that are currently making our public schools sick.

    From what I have seen, many black parents want school choice and with good reason–the working class and poor black children have some of the worst schools in the nation. Much of this has to do with schools of education and their damaging theories which are applied in inner city schools with almost no pushback. Taking away phonics and putting in “whole language” which, at best, is the “hunt and peck” method of learning reading. Taking away math and giving a bunch of squares or guess the number of gumballs in the machine as actual assignments. These things started in the inner city, and, without pushback, moved to the suburbs and destroyed education in formerly first class school districts.

    I hope this politician sticks to her guns, but be careful of the voucher Trojan horse.

      BierceAmbrose in reply to Tel. | July 12, 2023 at 12:44 am

      “…vouchers are Federal money.”

      Could you break that down? Seems to me like it would be no more entangled than now, with greater visibility on the meddling.

      I assume I’m missing something. Help me out here.

        amwick in reply to BierceAmbrose. | July 12, 2023 at 5:55 am

        There school choice programs are all different state by state. You really have to read the fine print. I see the great intent, but my concern as a non parent, taxpayer is the potential for fraud, on a huge scale.

          amwick in reply to amwick. | July 12, 2023 at 5:56 am

          These…. I blame morning fingers.

          CommoChief in reply to amwick. | July 12, 2023 at 7:45 am

          So you are concerned when the govt sends a Parent a check that the Parent might not spend the funds as intended? Fair enough.

          Let’s apply that same concern to CT ordered child support. Then to every other govt transfer payment.

          There’s gonna be instances of fraud with vouchers, that’s a given. The positives far out weight the negatives and swift enforcement and punishment of fraud will mitigate it.

          JohnSmith100 in reply to amwick. | July 12, 2023 at 9:10 am

          Public schools are already fraud on a huge scale.

          Dimsdale in reply to amwick. | July 12, 2023 at 11:33 am

          CommoChief: agreed, but the government’s record on enforcement and stamping out fraud is virtually nonexistent. See: COVID funds, welfare, medicaid/care, etc., etc.

          Now if they privatized the enforcement and fraud reduction, I could see how it might be better.

        Federal money comes with strings. Always. As soon as you accept Federal money you accept a whole host of Federal mandates.

        Look at the famous “Dear Colleague Letter” of 2011, in which the Dept of Ed threatened colleges that unless they lowered their standards for sexual assault claims, that student loans would not be provided to students. Yes this happened. This is why some young men are being falsely accused, put through “show trials”, kicked out of school, and are unable to get into another. The whole threat was financial and it had to do with the money given to the STUDENT, not to the school. This was the result of the Fed actually controlling the student loan program, not just backing the loans.

        Vouchers would follow the same trajectory: handled by Dept of Ed, money controlled by the Fed (states could not afford this on their own), and suddenly the “Dear Colleague” letter that says if you inform parents that their 7-year-old is identifying as “they”, you will lose voucher money.

          henrybowman in reply to Tel. | July 13, 2023 at 1:44 am

          I have no idea why you are stuck on the idea that vouchers are federal money. They are not. Many states have voucher programs. The federal government has none. Our voucher plan here is state money. If you have one, yours should be, too.

          BierceAmbrose in reply to Tel. | July 14, 2023 at 1:55 am

          Fair enough, and of course. BUT, as HB said, why are vouchers federal? I’ll go further and note that “education” is overseen by state boards of ed, delivered by local school districts. Presumably they could voucher. Arizona was all up in vouchering at the state level within the last year.

      Sally MJ in reply to Tel. | July 12, 2023 at 4:20 am

      When I did my student teaching many decades ago, my master teacher pulled out from the cupboards the Open Court reading books that she was supposed to have discarded. She told me the district had bought new Whole Language books .”But kids learn to read better with Phonics, and they love it.”

      It was like being in a Speakeasy — except rather than drinking old Scotch, the teacher was using old phonics books to teach kids to read. I will never forget the confidence and joy in those kids’ eyes as they got to play phonics reading games.

        amwick in reply to Sally MJ. | July 12, 2023 at 5:57 am

        TY Sally, I really appreciate first hand experience.

        JohnSmith100 in reply to Sally MJ. | July 12, 2023 at 9:18 am

        I had speech and and language problems, which impacted pronunciation and spelling. Science and math were easy, not so when it came to writing. Some of that may have been disinterest. In retrospect, phonics might have helped. It does seem like great gifts in one area often seem to be offset by equally great handicaps in other areas.

          DSHornet in reply to JohnSmith100. | July 12, 2023 at 9:56 am

          My problems were the opposite: Weakness in math, no problems with language skills. The result was boredom due to classes being forced to hold back to the level of those who couldn’t write a coherent paragraph no matter how hard they tried. I read a lot (still do) to stay somewhat interested.

          Phonics was a Godsend, and having an English teacher in the 7th and 10th grades who was a stickler for proper use of the language was what I needed. He also was enthusiastic about diagramming sentences which made composition simple and satisfied my inner nerd. Phonics works and, once the light goes on, there is no looking back to the causes of previous problems.

          To/too/two; their/there/they’re. There’s nothing hard about it – if you’re taught.
          .

          M Poppins in reply to JohnSmith100. | July 12, 2023 at 11:29 am

          everyone is different. I was reading at age 4. Math beyond simple arithmetic is impossible for me. It all comes from the home.

        Tel in reply to Sally MJ. | July 12, 2023 at 12:16 pm

        Sounds like what they did in LA: The phonics underground. They seriously called it that. One LAUSD teacher called KFI radio and described what the teachers were doing in exactly those terms.

        This is the problem with going to online learning. Online course shells can be easily monitored by administrators on the system. You put phonics up in Canvas or Blackboard, someone will now speak to you about it. In fact, When school districts adopt the “master course model” (already existing in private online universities), all of the content will be locked down by administrators. Instructors won’t be able to change anything.

        Online course shells are not just for online courses. They will eventually be in use as “e-companions” (Pearson’s name for them) for onsite classes. Add that to the master course model (in which a course is “designed” by a course designer and poorly paid “content provider” ) and the course shell will be a trap, a limitation on what you can do live in class.

      Thad Jarvis in reply to Tel. | July 12, 2023 at 5:50 am

      Federal mandates and schools of education are the sources of the problems in inner city schools? Have you actually been in one lately?

        M Poppins in reply to Thad Jarvis. | July 12, 2023 at 11:33 am

        I have been. But it’s not about the inner cities, or “lately”. A large portion of two generations of white Americans are subliterate – they don’t know how to conjugate the past tense of the verb “to go”, haven’t learned basic grammar.

          You can thank Federal mandates for that. School funding is no longer simply a local issue. And yes, suburban schools are not immune.

          Thanks to Section 8 housing and immigration, your high-ranked suburban school will have a bilingual/ESL component. The Bilingual program gets FEDERAL funds. The regular English program may or may not, and if they do, it may be Title I funding for “at-risk” students.

          Federal funds are attractive to schools because they buy a lot. English departments may not have class sets of textbooks for their students–hence the endless handouts (and now PDFs) that are given to students. An “at-risk” program may have Title I money for low level reading books for those students, who are typically reading at the elementary school level. A Bilingual program will have Federal funds for a host of classroom necessities. An English teacher, for example, may have to buy her own dry erase markers for the white board at Staples; the Bilingual/ESL teacher will have them provided by Federal money., And yes, this is based on real experience.

          So the English student (not bilingual) will have fewer resources to start with. Public schools are also not typically allowed to ask students to purchase more books for the class. Without class sets of books (grammar, rhetorics, literature) and without the ability to supplement, students start out with a paucity of materials.

          There has also been a movement (starting in the 80s) which promotes the idea that the teaching of grammar is damaging. It became politically incorrect to teach grammar in many academic circles. There is still a bias toward “whole language” as opposed to grammatical analysis.

      CommoChief in reply to Tel. | July 12, 2023 at 7:58 am

      Not necessarily. The Congress could choose to block grant the funds to the States with minimal, common sense parameters allowing the States to make the decision about the details so long as the testing results showed the desired outcomes.

      The real problem in our society is the breakdown of the family unit. Children in single parent households are set up for failure and the stats this out. Ending no fault divorce and instituting a presumption of 50/50 child custody in Family CT would go a long way to fixing things. More controversial would be applying scrutiny of financial ability to independently raise a child as one component of determining a ‘fit’ Parent.

        Block grants to the states are unlikely. The Dept of Ed would want to administer this, just as they do the Student Loan Program.

        Even if they allowed states to take block grants, these would come with strings. Some conservative states, for example, might not want to take grants that require the teaching of evolution or sex education, but the Fed could put these kinds of restrictions on the monies. There could also be the requirement that religious schools follow Federal laws on employment, meaning that transgenders must be hired by Christian schools, for example.

        Any voucher program is financial expenditure and would have to go through Congress. Think about how Obamacare went through: Congress had one bill, the Senate had another, and instead of any reconciliation, the Senate bill (attributed to Max Baucus but actually written by the insurance industry’s own Liz Fowler) was chosen to go forward to a vote. (By the way, Fowler is back: https://www.counterpunch.org/2021/06/07/liz-fowler-is-back-and-shes-writing-us-health-policy-again/ )

        So now, let’s look at a voucher bill. Who are the major industry players? Private schools, corporations wanting to start up massive nationwide school “chains”, book publishers like Pearson that already provide full courses online LMS systems, AFT, NEA, etc. Guess who has given money to Congress? to the Senate? to the Presidential races?

        The voucher law could be a Frankenstein’s monster of special interests shaping the bill for their own purposes. Vouchers could be limited to accredited schools with developed online options and/or to schools that had unionized teaching staff and/or schools that taught gender theory, critical race theory and./or courses on sex ed whose information was supplied by Planned Parenthood (yes, they’re a player), etc.

        It could be worse than Obamacare. This is why I worry. I prefer programs to be small, local, reflecting the values of the locality. I love homeschooling when it is possible.

        In theory, vouchers can be a game-changer. In actual fact, everybody’s got an angle and every political process has organizations with their hands out.

      Ironclaw in reply to Tel. | July 12, 2023 at 8:52 am

      Actually, since she is part of the Georgia state house, she doesn’t get to dole out federal money. The money she gets to assign is State money and it doesn’t come with Federal mandates

        Tel in reply to Ironclaw. | July 12, 2023 at 12:49 pm

        Understood. But she may not stay in the Georgia house.

          henrybowman in reply to Tel. | July 13, 2023 at 1:48 am

          So you’re worried that a Democrat who became a Republican because she liked state vouchers MIGHT be elected to federal office someday and then MIGHT do something to create federal vouchers? “Sufficient unto the day,” my brother in Christ.

    M Poppins in reply to JohnSmith100. | July 12, 2023 at 11:25 am

    There are no “independents”

More of this

She’s very well spoken dresses professionally, think sweat pants and sweat shirt Senator from Pa, ,

She has a lovely demeanor

The GOP should help her and make her a star

This is a GREAT story. I am so happy. This really gives me hope for our future..

The sad part is the comments section here on LI . There have been some subtle and blatant racist posts here from certain people who regularly post comments here. They seem to think it is funny or clever. It never comes from the writers, Professor Jacobson, or the original posters, just from the commentators. The things they have posted here about Blacks, Muslims, and gays and lesbians is sometimes truly vile. This has always disturbed me. I never noticed it until I retired a year ago and for the first time I had the time to read all the comments. I sincerely hope that things change here at LI, and that all people, including Blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, Orientals, and gays and lesbians who believe in what we are advocating here, are welcome on this blog, and will be our allies in what is a monumental fight to save our country and our culture. LI blog now has a national and international audience, and we would be well served not to fall into acting like the bigoted stereotypes so many people have of conservatives.

    JR, you wrote: “I sincerely hope that things change here at LI, and that all people, including Blacks, Hispanics, Muslims, Orientals, and gays and lesbians who believe in what we are advocating here, are welcome on this blog”

    What on God’s green earth are you talking about? Are you suggesting (plainly stating, actually) that we are racists (and a host of others ‘ists,’ apparently)? Please point to some of our racist posts or to any instance where someone has been unwelcome here due to any of those things (none of which any of us can even see; it’s a blog). I want examples, please, because I have no idea at all what you are talking about.

      “Are you suggesting (plainly stating, actually) that we are racists (and a host of others ‘ists,’ apparently)?”

      Why, yes — yes, he is.

      And JR — “Orientals” is nowadays considered racist, I’ve been told. The politically-correct term is “Asians.”

        The Gentle Grizzly in reply to alien. | July 11, 2023 at 8:30 pm

        If you expect the average LI-er to kowtow to what the arbiters of correctness tell us what to say, you are in the wrong place.

        Yes, Asians is the politically correct term. What said “Oriental” was so awful in the first place? I am willing to bet the price of a good lunch that it was some white, likely female, with a styrofoam degree and access to a microphone.

        I am even old enough to recall when “Negro” was just fine, including with, well, negroes. Then, one or another of the churchless Reverends told us it was “racist” and suddenly, everyone’s Marionette strings were being pulled.

        BAH!

          Yo, Grizz, I’m just poking JR as to what I’ve been told. You’d think that a smug self-superior intellect such as his would know that “Orientals” is now an out-of-favor term; I’ve even heard it described as “racist.”

          “It is now politically incorrect to use the word “Oriental,” and the admonition has the force of law: President Obama recently signed a bill prohibiting use of the term in all federal documents. Rep. Grace Meng, the New York congresswoman who sponsored the legislation, exulted that “at long last this insulting and outdated term will be gone for good.”” — https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-tsuchiyama-oriental-insult-20160601-snap-story.html

        JackinSilverSpring in reply to alien. | July 12, 2023 at 12:00 am

        What is wrong with the word “Oriental”? It just means someone from the East. It’s like calling someone a southerner, or an easterner or an Occidental. To make something verboten because that is the lastest fad is downright stupid. After a while, we’ll all be talking in code so as to not offend someone somewhere.

          not_a_lawyer in reply to JackinSilverSpring. | July 12, 2023 at 12:41 am

          We have a winner. Orient means East, Occident means West. It has nothing to do with racism or any other modern form of ‘bigotry’.

          Erronius

          JohnSmith100 in reply to JackinSilverSpring. | July 12, 2023 at 9:26 am

          I agree, I have never considered oriental to be a slur or demeaning, this is just more BS.

          Actually my Asian friends tell me oriental alludes to furniture and that’s why they prefer Asian

          “Talking in code” is “dog whistles” to the left.

          Oddly enough, only they seem to be able to hear them.

          henrybowman in reply to JackinSilverSpring. | July 13, 2023 at 1:52 am

          And yet we are told so in no uncertain terms by people who insist that niggardly is a racial insult and that the word women must be replaced by “people with bonus holes.” And they defend their claim by “shut up.” Now what?

          henrybowman in reply to JackinSilverSpring. | July 13, 2023 at 1:56 am

          “Actually my Asian friends tell me oriental alludes to furniture and that’s why they prefer Asian”
          So does Traditional, Scandinavian, Federal, and Shaker.
          What should we call male strippers, if Chippendale is off the table?

      JohnSmith100 in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | July 11, 2023 at 8:49 pm

      Many entitled people feel that they should never be criticized. Without criticism they are unable to grow and improve themselves. That is what comes from spending too much time in an echo chamber.

      I have one Muslim friend, he is a critical thinker. He is an example of what Churchill was talking about, that individuals can have admirable qualities. His mother was Catholic, father a Muslim who walked out when he was 8. He was not completely Indoctrinated.

        Thad Jarvis in reply to JohnSmith100. | July 11, 2023 at 9:56 pm

        “Some of my best friends are…” 😂

        What a tool.

          JohnSmith100 in reply to Thad Jarvis. | July 12, 2023 at 9:34 am

          What a fool, I like the guy, I do not like Islam, for a lot of different reasons. It is subversive. brutal, exactly what one would expect from a barbarian consolidating his power.

      Did you actually read JR’s comment?

      KEYoder in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | July 11, 2023 at 9:53 pm

      JR clearly said, “The sad part is the comments section here” and referenced the blatant racism of some “who regularly post comments.” JR said, “It never comes from the writers…or the original posters….” How anyone who regularly reads this site and the comments section can disagree with these statements puzzles me. Yes, those racist comments are definitely in the minority, but they definitely exist.

        Thad Jarvis in reply to KEYoder. | July 12, 2023 at 6:06 am

        At this point you should be told to grow thicker skin (It’s not MY fault you don’t recognize that black people are low IQ savages and every Muslim is ready to cut your head off!!) and go hang out with all the other transgender communists you’re obviously allied with. For added enjoyment, try saying you think DeSantis might make a good president and watch the Trump lovers sweep into action on you. Have fun!

          DSHornet in reply to Thad Jarvis. | July 12, 2023 at 10:04 am

          You just proved his point.
          .

          JohnSmith100 in reply to Thad Jarvis. | July 12, 2023 at 10:05 am

          Deal with facts, crime rate, average IQ, while keeping in mind some individuals will fall at the extremes. So with Caucasian’s 50% have an average IQ of a hundred and up, for American blacks that is just 15%, Muslims are similar, at least for some, and far worse for those in Africa.

          We live in a technolical age, where people with low IQ are at a severe disadvantage. That does not exempt them from accountability. They have a choice to be honest or dishonest, to be productive to the degree they are capable, or not.

          CommoChief in reply to Thad Jarvis. | July 12, 2023 at 11:18 am

          It might be ok to say that the average IQ of blacks is x v the average IQ of another group while you still apply the very necessary qualifications to the statement that
          1. there is more variability within every group than among the groups
          2. the average tells us zero about any specific individual member of the group

          The use of the word ‘savages’ as you applied it, encompasses the whole group v a specific individual or subset of the group who engage in savagery. That’s simply not so for every single black person.

          When you don’t qualify your statement to minimize the application then the only logical inference is that you made a deliberate linguistic choice to apply the statement broadly to include the whole group and not a subset of the broader group.

          It’s up to the person making/broadcasting the statement to communicate clearly. It’s not the responsibility of the person receiving or viewing your communication to suss out a different intent or find a ‘whisperer’ to translate intent apart from the logical inferences of the deliberate linguistic choices you make in your statement.

        We try to remove blatantly racist comments. If you see something you find racist, please let us know. Keeping in mind, that just mentioning someone’s race is NOT racist (that’s something too many on “our” side have internalized from the leftist onslaught).

      Thad Jarvis in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | July 12, 2023 at 5:51 am

      He’s talking about comments.

        No, he wasn’t. When he gets into the “unwelcome here” part and keeps specifying LI–not our commenters, he is not talking only about commenters (regardless of how he framed it).

        We moderate here, but we try to limit it to overt and blatant racism (along with calls to violence, etc.) because too many people paint with far too broad a brush what “racism” even is. We remove comments that call Michelle Obama a “monkey,” for example, but not ones that mock her name (Moochelle) or her appearance (Mike). Most of what now gets called racism (and all the other isms and phobias) is not about race or sex or gender or religion or anything other than politics and ideology.

        Disliking a black politician is not racism unless the person dislikes him BECAUSE he’s black and also dislikes all other black people, including those on the right, for the same reason. Ditto, using JR’s example, calling Buttigieg “Buttplug”; that’s not homophobic (it’s not terribly clever or kind, but it’s not homophobic).

        “Phobic” has a very precise meaning/definition, and calling someone childish names does not indicate unfounded fear, it suggests disdain, dislike, disrespect, and a whole lot of “dis-es” but not irrational fear. The same people who do that, however, love our own homosexuals here at LI and speak well of well-known gay and lesbians on our side. Therefore, it’s not homophobia; it’s just a somewhat clumsy and lazy rhetorical tool to indicate distaste for the man’s ideology (and in this case, general uselessness–as one would expect from a diversity hire).

        What it comes down to is the same thing it’s always come down to since all this “political correctness” and “microaggression” BS came from the left: the personal is political. That was and is their mantra. That’s why EVERYTHING is personal AND political simultaneously for the left, the middle, and increasingly on the right.

        By these rules, if you say something rude about ONE person, you are slandering all the people of that “identity”–not of that political slant even if that’s the only thing you disagree with, because that’s the point, to make politics about division based on identity, i.e. about the personal. Haven’t you ever wondered why Democrats can say the most foul, blatantly (and actually) racist/etc. things and get a pass? That’s why. Their politics makes them a protected identity group by this “personal is political” thinking.

        We lost this battle long ago (this was going on back in the 80’s and ’90s, and probably before that). It’s a pretty good game because you get the division, the distrust and socio-cultural discord, but it’s not directed where it actually belongs: at Democrats and their destructive ideology.

    not_a_lawyer in reply to JR. | July 12, 2023 at 12:47 am

    I have studied Islam. I understand their outlook. If you think Muslims will be our allies in saving our country and culture, then I have no respect for your opinions. We are their sworn enemies, even if we do not return the sentiment.

    Erronius

    amwick in reply to JR. | July 12, 2023 at 6:01 am

    Things have changed. It is not always obvious. LI does not engage in heavy handed moderation, but they do watch over things, in general.

    Azathoth in reply to JR. | July 12, 2023 at 12:30 pm

    Great job, JR! Your use of the word “we” was genius. You have completely fooled these people.

    They think you’re a long time reader.

    Excellent work, comrade!

This is just one example, where a LI commentator brags about using LinkedIn to screen out any African American job applicants. to his business so he that doesn’t even have to interview any blacks. Or consider all of the commentators who keep referring to the Transportation Secretary as Pete Buttplug. That goes on and on and has nothing to do with his failed policies. Then look at all of the racist comments on the physical characteristics of Biden’s Black press secretary. or the minority members of the Supreme Court . The words Nazi and Communist are thrown around at random as if we are really living in Nazi Germany with concentration camps. Commentators regularly post that civil war is about to happen, and that we have to secede from the United States. Can you imagine what any average American voter would think after reading all of this garbage?

LB1901 | July 10, 2023 at 2:18 pm

“DIR (Diversity in Recruiting) is intended to add race and other protected categories into what the algorithms pull and present.”

Uh, ok? The plain fact is there are simply too many problem people in protected classes that my small business simply cannot afford to baby sit. Which precisely why I find DIR to be a useful tool that allows me to be a more discriminating employer, more efficiently, by alerting me who not to hire.

Let the hurty-word comments commence!

    gonzotx in reply to JR. | July 11, 2023 at 8:56 pm

    Must be heaven to be so perfect

    Bet your really fun to be around

    JohnSmith100 in reply to JR. | July 11, 2023 at 10:35 pm

    If AAction had been implemented as it was conceived, we would not have hordes of AA incompetents in all aspects of our society. I don’t wish failure upon anyone. But I do wish that those who are not competent were not inflicting their incompetence upon the rest of us.

    Thad Jarvis in reply to JR. | July 12, 2023 at 5:59 am

    “I have studied Islam.” 😅

    I hope he’s able to live without the respect of our resident Bernard Lewis here.

    Dimsdale in reply to JR. | July 12, 2023 at 2:26 pm

    Interesting. So if a comment is made about a black justice who is supporting/defending Affirmative Action, and exemplifies everything that is wrong with it, starting with the blatant racism, it is racist? If a press secretary is criticized for doing a lousy job, and happens to be a black lesbian, is it that quality that makes them a lousy press secretary? Psaki was equally bad, and she was a white heterosexual. Don’t fall into the trap the left sets for you.

    How about MIR (Merit in Recruiting)? Blind applications with only pertinent data, nothing personal or racial etc. on it. It would supersede race in both hiring and academic admittances. It is not to remediate poor schools or a failure to work hard and study. Blacks don’t need a “helping hand” from gov’t, they need inspiration, role models and good families, things the left has systematically destroyed in this country, and the pretend to come to the rescue to clean up the mess they made. I have had black students and colleagues from outside America, and they are outstanding workers and students. They don’t whine about how slavery from ages ago is affecting them and demanding reparations. They work, study and excel.

      Azathoth in reply to Dimsdale. | July 12, 2023 at 2:48 pm

      We cannot have ‘MIR’ because every time it’s tried the applicants that get taken are overwhelmingly white.

      Not Asian. Not Indian. Not Hispanic. Not black.

      It is a test that is performed fairly regularly -to see if anything has ‘improved’.

      It hasn’t.

      For the same reason that an AI, unmonitored or limited, left to it’s own devices, quickly becomes a ‘racist’.

      This construct, a learning, thinking program whose thoughts are composed of a constantly repeated sweeping of the sum of all human knowledge as it accumulates, left on it’s own quickly comes to conclusions that would get it canceled in all proper company.

      Why?

      All the AI in popular use today have been programmed to be unable to follow those paths.

      Why?

JohnSmith100 | July 11, 2023 at 8:50 pm

Many entitled people feel that they should never be criticized. Without criticism they are unable to grow and improve themselves. That is what comes from spending too much time in an echo chamber.

I have one Muslim friend, he is a critical thinker. He is an example of what Churchill was talking about, that individuals can have admirable qualities. His mother was Catholic, father a Muslim who walked out when he was 8. He was not completely Indoctrinated.

    alien in reply to JohnSmith100. | July 11, 2023 at 9:57 pm

    Is there an echo in here?

      He could have two Muslim friends, you know.

      Thad Jarvis in reply to alien. | July 12, 2023 at 5:56 am

      “Without criticism they are unable to grow and improve themselves.”

      Just like you’re able to admit that there is one Muslim in existence who might not be a “Mohammedan” cut throat. Congrats on your progress.

        JohnSmith100 in reply to Thad Jarvis. | July 12, 2023 at 10:31 am

        My opinion about Islam is based on both ancient history and ongoing conduct, especially their failure to assimilate. Bottom line is they flea their shit holes and then do their best to turn their new homes into the same kind of shit hole they fled. I came to this conclusion on my own, and then discovered that Winston Churchill came to the same conclusion in the late 1800s. My Muslim friend recognizes flaws of Islam, but he cannot discuss them with his fellows. We know why, and that is one of the most damning things about Islam.

I’m no lawyer

And I’m sure that Prof Jacobson and Atty Coleman know how to weigh pros and cons

But — if I were in control of this L.I. blog, I’d eliminate the Comments section

Too much downside risk exposure imho, at this point

L.I. took too much time, toil, sweat, effort ……. to risk having one or a few unhinged knuckleheads tainting it’s reputation.

Maybe there might be a way to have a separate place for comments?

Or, frankly, let’s face it — most of the comments at this point are pretty predictable. Yes, sometimes quite clever and entertaining, but I’d really hate to see L.I. attacked as a website for <<>>

    AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to Terry. | July 12, 2023 at 7:15 am

    Typical.

    Shut down all commentary because YOU don’t happen to like what is being said.

    Typical.

    All comments must be removed because you believe that LI readers and commenters aren’t capable of discerning what is tongue-in-cheek comedy, necessary ridicule, or in fact outright racism.

    In fact, we are capable of reading and discerning, and coming to our own conclusions. All without ruining the reputation of LI.

    What you advocate for is “Nice platform you have here. It would be a shame if something happened to it!”

    So please, feel free to make your comments but don’t be surprised when you are also ridiculed for wanting to shut down comments here.

    I have stated many times that conservatives will be happy to be hanged by a liberal as long as the rope is a clean.

    If we don’t stand up and defend conservative principles with the same level of zeal that liberals use to destroy conservatism, we won’t exist.

    At that point, you will get the purity that you seek… at the detriment to all.

    I don’t need your protection. Thanks but no thanks.

    gonzotx in reply to Terry. | July 12, 2023 at 12:22 pm

    Good bye

    Azathoth in reply to Terry. | July 12, 2023 at 12:39 pm

    I bet you’re a firm believer in free speech as well.

    As long as it’s in the proper place and time, with the proper tone and content, right?

    Otherwise there’s too much downside risk exposure, amirite?

    henrybowman in reply to Terry. | July 13, 2023 at 2:01 am

    Cowardice is never a good response.

Noooooooooooooo I learn a great deal from the comments. It is good to see what people think about issues,,, people that have shared a bit about their background… so they are not really strangers..

And

Isn’t there some kind of law.. something about a section 230 thing that covers comments?

Trump and his acolytes aren’t the future of the Republican Party.
This woman is.

    JohnSmith100 in reply to Yuckster. | July 12, 2023 at 10:37 am

    Trump is the near future, maybe she will be ready when his term is done, Or maybe she will be VP, and then run for president, with Trump’s support. DeSantis has made quite a few tactical errors 🙂

    AF_Chief_Master_Sgt in reply to Yuckster. | July 12, 2023 at 12:51 pm

    Really?

    I am an independent voter who has historically voted for republican candidates, since no democrat has a platform that warrants my vote.

    I am also one of those voters who had to suck it up and vote for the only republican candidate because the RINO was the only option.

    Yes, Reagan was a Democrat who made the jump. But Reagan had to be vetted over multiple elections before he got the full support of Republican and independent voters.

    I welcome Mainor to the Republican Party, as well as Manchin, Simena, and most other democrats who know that their party failed them.

    But I refuse to give the full scale imprimatur to someone like Mainor to be considered the future of the Republican Party.

    Too soon. Perhaps you would like to give the pasture over to the wolf who just became a sheep, but I prefer to wait and see whether she is a Democrat with the same voting past that she had. Similar to people moving to my neighborhood from LIBERAL states. I would hope that they aren’t bringing their big government mentality with them.

    Dimsdale in reply to Yuckster. | July 12, 2023 at 2:29 pm

    But Pres. Trump would celebrate this woman and her outlook, while Biden and the Dems will soon vilify her.

    That is, hopefully, the future of this country, people that critical think their way through the leftist propaganda.

amatuerwrangler | July 12, 2023 at 10:39 am

Representative Mainor just set out on a rough road to re-election. Her campaign war chest could probably use some help.

For some insight into Ms Mainor’s choice, take a look at Neo’s series on changing: A Mind is a Difficult Thing to Change.
https://www.thenewneo.com/category/a-mind-is-a-difficult-thing-to-change/