Georgia Courts Pushing Aside Potential Roadblocks To Trump August Indictment
If Trump is indicted in Georgia, particularly if based on a RICO theory, it would be another electoral gift, solidifying the ‘rally-around’ effect we’ve seen since the March 2023 Manhattan indictment. What the impact is in six months when voting starts in Iowa remains to be seen. The downside, of course, is possible conviction and incarceration that a federal pardon could not cure.
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It looks very likely that Donald Trump will be indicted by a Fulton County, Georgia, Grand Jury on charges related to his conduct after he lost the Georgia general election in 2020.
The infamous “find votes” call appears to be part of it, but IMO if that’s all there is, it’s not enough because arguably it was a request to properly count all votes, not create fictitious votes.
The call was not “perfect” but it wasn’t criminal either. When WaPo released a highly and deceptively edited 4-minute version, it appeared that Trump might have been seeking to have Raffensberger do something illegal by “finding” votes for Trump. But after that media narrative was set, hours later the full hour-long audio and transcript was released which showed no illegality.
The call was pretty much a Trump stump speech railing on Raffensberger and other state officials for supposedly not doing their jobs. That job in Trump’s view in the call, was to prevent voter fraud and disqualify fraudulent votes, not to commit fraud. There was no substance that Trump has not said dozens of times in public, and if the substance of this call was done in a speech, no one would have noticed.
(Raffensberger vigorously pushed back on Trump’s claims of election fraud on the call, as did his aide in a press conference today.)
So there has to more to sustain an indictment. What that “more” is remains to be seen when the indictment is unsealed. A Special Grand jury gathered evidence, as has the current criminal Grand Jury.
Fulton County D.A. Fani Willis, who like Alvin Bragg, promised to investigate Trump, has promised action by September 1:
"The work is accomplished. We've been working for 2.5 years. We're ready to go."
— Fulton County DA Fani Willis reaffirmed she will announce charging decisions by September 1 in her investigation into Donald Trump/his allies in Georgia pic.twitter.com/1iM4d0rrpi
— The Recount (@therecount) July 31, 2023
It’s unclear what those charges would be, but there is speculation of some sort of state-version of federal RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act), which permits the indictment of the head of a criminal enterprise for the actions of the enterprise even if the head himself committed no crime. An “enterprise” could be a group of people acting together, even if not under a formal legal structure.
The federal RICO statute most famously was used against mob bosses who insulated themselves from directly participating in the crimes of the enterprise (the crime family). It also has been used against politicians, such as former Providence, Rhode Island, Mayor Buddy Cianci (RIP):
In the public corruption sphere, RICO was used to convict Providence, Rhode Island, Mayor Vincent “Buddy” Cianci…. [who] ran Providence like his own fiefdom and was hugely popular … Allegations of “pay-to-play” and other corruption were rife.
The federal government charged Cianci and his top assistants with dozens of counts of criminal activity relating to campaign contributions, payoffs, and other sundry matters. The feds had videotape of Cianci’s top assistant taking a cash bribe. But the feds didn’t have anything specific on Cianci. No wiretaps or video of Cianci taking, ordering, knowing about, or otherwise conducting criminal activity. One of the Counts in the indictment was a RICO conspiracy.
The RICO theory was that Providence City Hall (the Mayor’s Office, and various administrative departments under Cianci’s control) was a criminal “enterprise” controlled by Cianci. In this manner, Cianci could be held liable for the acts of those who reported to him even if there was no hard proof of Cianci’s involvement in specific crimes.
Cianci was found not guilty of 26 specific criminal charges. The only charge on which he was convicted was RICO conspiracy. Cianci challenged the verdict on the ground that the government had not proven an “enterprise,” but his appeals failed. Cianci ended up serving over five years in federal prison ….
Whereas federal RICO has a limited set of predicate acts (such as gambling, murder, kidnapping, extortion, arson, robbery, bribery) required to invoke the statute, the GA version apparently is broader:
According to state law experts, Trump’s actions — like phone calls pressuring Georgia’s secretary of state to “find” more votes — could fall under the broad legal statute barring the extortion of victims. “Among the things that are considered racketeering activity in the state of Georgia is knowingly and willfully making a false, fictitious or fraudulent statement or representation in any matter within the jurisdiction of any department or agency of state government,” a Georgia State law professor told the Guardian. “If you do that, you’ve committed a racketeering activity. If you attempt to do that, if you solicit someone else to do it or you coerce someone else to do it — it’s all considered racketeering under Georgia law.”
So, the theory is, potentially, that Trump was the head of an enterprise committing crimes, in addition to whatever crime the prosecutors may allege he committed himself. If RICO is all they have on Trump, the GA indictment would be viewed like the Manhattan indictment – legal gymnastics designed to get Trump at any cost. (As I’ve said many times, the Florida federal indictment is legally straightforward, subject of course to proof.)
So far, the Georgia courts have rejected Trump’s attempts to head-off the indictment.
As previously reported, the Georgia Supreme Court unanimously dismissed Trump’s attempt to invoke ‘original jurisdiction’ to preempt the lower courts, something the GA Supreme Court has not done in any case in 40 years. The Court noted that there were two pending motions in the Superior Court that covered similar issues, one filed in March and another filed simultaneously with the ‘original jurisdiction’ filing. Both cases involve Trump’s claim that the Special Grand Jury was improper, none of the evidence gathered could be used in an indictment by the regular Grand Jury currently contemplating criminal charges, and Willis should be removed.
The March motion was just decided, and Trump’s motion was denied for lack of standing:
Having reviewed the pleadings, the Court now finds that neither Trump nor Latham enjoys standing to mount a challenge – at this pre-indictment phase of the proceedings — to the continued investigation into and potential prosecution of possible criminal interference in the 2020 general election in Georgia. The movants’ asserted “injuries” that would open the doors of the courthouse to their claims are either insufficient or else speculative and unrealized. They are insufficient because, while being the subject (or even target) of a highly publicized criminal investigation is likely an unwelcome and unpleasant experience, no court ever has held that that status alone provides a basis for the courts to interfere with or halt the investigation.3 Trump knew this, and now Latham does too….
There will be a time and a forum in which Trump and Latham can raise their concerns about the constitutionality of the special purpose grand jury statutes, about the performance of this particular Special Purpose Grand Jury (and the judge supervising it), and about the propriety of allowing the Fulton County District Attorney to remain involved with whatever criminal prosecution — if any — results from the work of this Special Purpose Grand Jury. That time is not now and that forum is not here….
The Judge also rejected the claim that Willis’ political partisanship required her removal:
… neither movant has pointed to any averments from the District Attorney or her team of lawyers expressing a belief that Trump or Latham is guilty or has committed this or that offense. Rather, the consistent — and persistent — theme has been the standard fare of “pursuing the evidence where it leads us,” “holding everyone accountable,” and “no one being above the law.”The drumbeat from the District Attorney has been neither partisan (in the political sense) nor personal, in marked and refreshing contrast to the stream of personal invective flowing from one of the movants.
Put differently, the District Attorney’s Office has been doing a fairly routine — and legally unobjectionable — job of public relations in a case that is anything but routine. None of what movants cite rises to the level of justifying disqualification and all of it, collectively, falls far short ….
In the second Superior Court action, the one the Supreme Court noted was filed simultaneously, Judge McBurney (who just issued the Order above) is named as a defendant. A hearing on Trump’s motion is scheduled for August 10:
A judge has set a hearing for Aug. 10 on a motion by Donald Trump’s attorneys to disqualify District Attorney Fani Willis from prosecuting possible criminal interference in the 2020 presidential election.
Legal observers consider Trump’s motion a long shot, but the hearing comes as Willis could be on the verge of asking a recently seated grand jury to hand up an indictments. All signs point to the former president being charged.
Senior Superior Court Judge Stephen Schuster, in an order signed Friday, also directed both sides to submit their legal briefs on the issue no later than Aug. 8.
Schuster, a former Cobb County judge, was assigned the case after all of Fulton’s judges were recused because the motion was filed not just against Willis, but also against fellow Fulton Superior Court Judge Robert McBurney….
Also Friday, Cathy Latham, the former chair of the Coffee County GOP and an alternate elector who cast her vote for Trump, joined Trump’s motion. And attorneys for former state GOP chair David Shafer, another alternate elector who has been notified he is a target of the investigation, made an entry of appearance in the case before Schuster.
I would be shocked if Judge Schuster granted Trump the pre-emptive relief he seeks.
The Georgia courts seem to be clearing any roadblocks to a Trump indictment.
If Trump is indicted in Georgia, particularly if based on a RICO theory, it would be another electoral gift. The March 2023 Manhattan indictment took a Republican primary that was closing between Trump and DeSantis, and blew it wide open in polling toward Trump. The Florida indictment solidified that rally-around effect, as will a Georgia indictment.
What the impact is in six months when voting starts in Iowa remains to be seen. But for now, overly aggressive Democrat prosecutors are the gift that keeps on giving to Trump’s efforts to secure the Republican nomination. The downside, of course, is possible conviction and incarceration that a federal pardon could not cure.
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A gift?
Dear God, that’s what you call 7’years of persecution nowadays
Maybe for a masochist…
It’s a “gift” in the sense that it will almost guarantee that Trump will win the Republican primary, because once again it will galvanize his base. But it will also guarantee that Trump will lose the general election to Biden or whomever the Dems nominate, because it will turn the Independents even further away from Trump. This is exactly what the Dems and the liberal media are hoping for, and this is exactly what they have been working so hard to make happen.
Trump was the runaway favorite without the criminal “gifts” of having every leftist in any government position in America looking to abuse his powers (and to abuse powers that his position doesn’t even have) in order to try and put Trump in prison.
And the people who treat these show trials as if there is any reasonable justification for any part of them are accessories. History is not going to be kind to this population and to so many in it who are instrumental in taking apart the greatest, freest, most successful nation that has ever existed in the worst example of societal suicide that the world has ever seen.
Trump is the easiest target for which the Dems can steal another election
“it will also guarantee that Trump will lose the general election to Biden or whomever the Dems nominate, because it will turn the Independents even further away from Trump.”
Guarantee? Pure speculation and maybe a bit of wishful thinking.
The latest Harvard CAPS-Harris poll found that 45 percent of independents support Trump and 27 percent support Biden in the hypothetical 2024 matchup.
https://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/HHP_July2023_KeyResults.pdf
When one poll is an outlier you could see if all of the others are wrong and it is right by looking at it’s cross tabs.
What I find interesting is that unlike Siena (which finds Trump at 43% which is pathetic) is that Harvard Harris seems to think Trump will win Gen Z.
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2023/07/27/harvards-polls-are-deceptive-trash-n567497
Now Pew, Siena et al might be right Harvard Harris might be right the way to know the answer is this.
Was there a recent election in 2023? And recent elections in 2022 where Trump was the primary issue?
Yes
How did 2023 and 2022 go?
You have to pick an outlier poll and ignore ACTUAL ELECTION RESULTS.
When Trump loses you are going to blame everyone but yourself.
And if Trump wins, please don’t commit suicide.
The only way Trump would lose is an even larger steal than 2020.
The Single biggest way the GOP can ensure the elections are less flagrantly stolen is to track down all the ballots that were mailed out and returned by the USPS as undeliverable and watch them be destroyed.
More than the ballots must be destroyed.
Trump will lose again in the general election, and once again, Trump and all of his supporters will say that he lost because of a “stolen election,” just like Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, and Stacey Abrams.said that they lost because of a “stolen election.” Losers always say their election was stolen. They won’t ever admit that they lost because people hated their candidate. So many people voted against Hillary Clinton because they hated her and Bill Clinton, and that is how Trump won. It won’t happen again. After Trump loses, again, the Trumpers will blame the GOPe, the globalists, the RINOs, the World Economic Forum, and probably the Council of Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Rockefellers, the Billdeburgers, the worldwide Jewish banking conspiracy, and everything else in between. We’ve seen this movie time and time again. Enough is enough.
Molly Ball puts your interpretation to shame. Not to mention the Twitter Files and all of the other revelations that made 2020 unlike any of the examples you provided.
Not to mention that Trump performed better than any incumbent preseident ever.
Rather than offer gobbledygoop, just admit you are a Never-Trumper and let that be the end of it.
List of Trump elections
2016-He won by barely winning a set of 3 swing states Hillary ignored and neglected, he lost the popular vote by a massive margin winning 46% of the vote.
2017-Virginia elections Republicans lose with Trump being the issue
2018-Massive blue wave across the country
2020-Massive defeat
2022-Trump candidates running in statewide races lost, Trump candidates running in many safe or lean red districts like Grand Rapids lost
2023-Trump again LOST in WISCONSIN a must win state
Trump isn’t capable of winning.
Your last name HAS to be Biden–there aren’t any other people so stupid who believe themselves to be so smart.
Hillary –and the rest of the Democrats didn’t ignore those states. They thought that they were so safely blue that they could be counted as automatic wins.
Trump swung them and overcame the first test of the fortification in a presidential election. Because 2016 WAS fortified just like 2020 –just not enough in ‘safe’ states.
Then, in 2018, media hype was used to make the up until then common midterm election gains for the opposition look like a ‘wave’
In 2020 Trump got more votes than any candidate in the history of the country.
Somehow, Joe Biden did as well. Even more than Trump. More than Hillary Clinton. Even more than Barack Obama– from about half the counties that Barack Obama won.
Somehow.
In 2022, the Democrats installed their candidates with open fraud wherever they could.
They have essentially, in places they control, given up on the farce of pretending that they’re not simply manufacturing votes.
@Azathoth – nice work, and I will add:
A) “2016…he lost the popular vote by a massive margin winning 46% of the vote.”
• In the last 10 elections Dems won the popular vote 7 times – and the election 5 times.
• Both Trump (2016) and GWB (2000) won elections without having the most popular votes.
• In 2016 Clinton had 48.1% of the popular vote (2.1% difference).
• In 2000 Gore had 48.4% of the popular vote (.5% difference).
• Clinton won two elections with less than 50% of the popular vote (1992: 43%, 1996: 49.2%).
• Nixon, JFK, and Truman all won elections with less than 50% of the popular vote (1968: 43.4%, 1960: 49.7%, 1948: 49.4%).
B) “2017-Virginia elections Republicans lose with Trump being the issue.”
• 2017-Northam beat Gillespie (who had no elective office experience)
• 2017-Turnout was heavily influenced by two left social issues: Expansion of Medicaid, and Destruction of Confederate Monuments.
• 2019-The election was conducted using a map created by a CA poli-sci professor that benefitted Dems – after the map that had been created by the VA legislature, and agreed upon by the “black caucus”, was challenged in court by Dem attorney Marc Elias ** for racial gerrymanding.
• 2019-despite the Dem favored map, only two Rep senate seats were flipped – RIC & NOVA – Glen Sturtevant in RIC was best known for deciding to sponsor the resurrection of the Womens ERA (Equal Rights Amendment) certification – over his Rep colleagues wishes
• 2021-Trump voters turned out at phenomenal levels, and Dems couldn’t keep pace – McAuliffe had 200K more votes than Northam – Youngkin, Sears, and Miyares all won their State Executive office elections.
• 2021-Republicans also flipped the House – and won 52 races and Democrats won 48.
C) “2018-Massive blue wave across the country.”
• In the last 20 mid-term elections, the party in the WH has lost seats in the House 20 times (100%).
• 6 Presidents have seen more House seats lost than Trump: -40 (Obama: -63, Clinton: -52, Ford: -48, LBJ: -47, Eisenhower: -48, Truman: -45).
• In the last 20 mid-term elections, the party in the WH has lost seats in the Senate 13 times (65%).
• Only 6 Presidents – including Trump: +2 – gained seats in the Senate (Biden: +1, GWB: +2, Regan: +1, Nixon: +2, JFK: +3).
D) “2022-Trump candidates running in statewide races lost, …”
• More Trump endorsed candidates won their election than lost their election.
• “Trump’s endorsees won 216 of the 257 called races held on Nov. 8 (84%).” — Ballotpedia
• “In the contests the NBC News Decision Desk is projecting, 195 Trump-backed candidates have won their races, 30 have lost, six are in races not yet called and two are headed to runoffs. (The Decision Desk does not call all statewide races, and does not project winners in legislative or local elections, so those were excluded from the count.) — NBC
What? Did you get a new Magic Eight Ball that predicts who will win elections more than 14 months in advance?
I have always been an Independent, and except for some minor local elections, I have NEVER voted for a Democrat for any nationwide office.
How fûcking shallow and stupid do you believe Independent voters are?
Every other Independent voter that I know would never vote for a guy who showered with his minor daughter, lies like a snake in the grass, and can’t put two words together to form a complete sentence on a good day?
Go find something better to do than showing your ignorance and stupidity for the entire world to see!
2018
2020
2022
2023
Stop ignoring election results when we run with Trump we lose.
Independents hate him
So you noticed the PATTERN of VOTE FRAUD as well!
As if DeSantis (who BTW I will vote for if he wins the primary) will be able to win an election where Philadelphia, Phoenix, Atlanta, and a host of other Democratically controlled cities get a chance to manufacture votes for weeks following the closing of the polls on Election Day.
But people like you will be sure to tell us that everything is OK and voter fraud just can’t, can’t, can’t, can’t be proven in a court of law… when none of the cases really had their day in court.
DeSantis or any Republican candidate will not win any national election when liars and cheats will harvest votes, manufacture mail in ballots, and run dem votes through counting machines multiple times.
FOAD.
He is hoping this all works. Pretty obvious. I asked my friends, if they thought these indictments were legit, and they said no… Kinda makes you wonder. Then I asked them if they wanted to live in a country where it worked successfully. They said no. What is obvious, whatever your view on Trump is, the whole thing is lawfare.
No point in rallying around Trump if they allow him to be prosecuted. Truly, no point at all. The time to choose is approaching.
It’s exactly the time
It’s Trump or it’s all over, and if you think DeSantis, who is compromised, viv, who is a real live globalist , or any of the other goons would not only win, but do the nasty work that needs to happen
I’ve got a dirt pile I can sell you
Trump and DeathSantis are two different things that we shouldn’t label as one or the other.
As you say, now is the time to be rallying around Trump because the deep state is exactly that! Deep! And if they can do this to a former, and potentially future, President then there is nothing stopping them from doing this to anyone else.
Secondly there are enough good things happening in Florida to suggest DeathSantis would be a fantastic choice for President.
Let’s not lose sight of the trees for the woods Gonz.
Ok liar idiot
They are “allowing” him to be prosecuted because the Uniparty can’t stand that an outsider came in, and showed us how corrupt they all really are.
Didn’t I see you under the grandstands at a primary school?? Might not be the same seymour butts but your leftism is showing! All these people who insist that we shouldn’t support PRESIDENT TRUMP only shows two things : HE WILL WIN and HE WILL COME BACK WITH A VENGEANCE TO DESTROY THE SWAMP! I can see why you leftists are so afraid!
The goal is to convict him of LITERALLY ANYTHING so they can scream about how ‘NOBODY IS ABOVE THE LAW’ and remove him from the ballots.
They don’t care what the crime is or how blatantly biased they are.
They just need to get a lucky jury ONCE.
You haven’t a clue what’s in the constitution do you?
Even if Trump suffers a Georgia conviction, as President, he will get more work done during his chain-gang water breaks than Biden does all day. He can just appoint the gang boss as chief of staff, and perhaps a farm trustee as press secretary to avoid failures to communicate.
He can’t win unless your a Democrat in which case he could hand over another term to Biden while losing senate seats.
The Dems are playing to their 5% who would stand up in their chairs and cheer if the DOJ dragged Trump off to solitary confinement and confiscated all of his assets right down to his socks without a trial. He’s obviously guilty in their eyes no matter what charges you claim because they hate him so much.
The Democrats are playing to the fools who will follow a martyr like the Pied Piper.
No the Democrats are playing to the lets pick the weakest opponent to face card.
America has seen the blatant double standard.
Can’t put that genie back in the bottle. Nope.
The infamous “find votes” call appears to be part of it, but IMO if that’s all there is, it’s not enough because arguably it was a request to properly count all votes, not create fictitious votes.
Except that if a Democrat says it, the latter is exactly what they mean.
As always, they’re projecting.
Mislabeled “find votes” cal as Trump never uttered those words in that succession at anytime
ty Mark. Sadly, reality doesn’t matter.
Trump was a registered Democrat and, if he was honest, would never have changed that.
That call was a demand that the SoS find non-existent votes to put Trump over the top where Trump claimed he won and demanded the SoS do things to make it so.
I don’t believe for even a nano-second if Hillary or Biden had done the same in a swing state they lost you wouldn’t have been clamoring for them to be arrested for it.
This inquiry is a crime, itself. Georgia is waging war on America.
That’s it, in a nutshell.
This nation is not long for this world. Just way too many of these sorts of treasonous (and extra-treasonous) acts are being allowed and supported by many in power. They are attacks against the nation and there is no response. No one is even considering the appropriate response.
We are either looking at a national divorce in the very near future or ugliness like this nation has never seen – and that is saying something. I fear we are leaning heavily towards the latter, because that is where cowardice takes nations that are succumbing to these sorts of cancers – though the societal suicide that the left is thrusting on America is really unprecedented in history. The world has never really seen anything like the self-hating nihilist Western Left. … and there’s a good reason why not.
I understand that legal professionals may be critical, from a technical legal standpoint, of President Trump’s pre-emptive efforts challenging this Georgia process. What I don’t understand is why the legal profession is not also loudly critical of this grossly politicized weaponization of the prosecutorial process aimed at harassing President Trump. Are legal ethics dead?
Were they ever alive?
Raphael Warnock is senator because people like you can’t accept how Georgia voted in 2020, can’t stop insulting them, and can’t move on, and can’t accept that you DO NOT try to disenfranchise a state for voting against you.
That would be more believable if democrats weren’t deathly afraid of conducting an election without weeks of unverified mail in ballots, drop boxes, and ballot harvesters. Not to mention their fear of voter ID and paper ballots (and an actual election day).
Mail in ballots happened nationwide, including in Alabama, Hawaii etc.
You are in denial years later. It isn’t a good thing.
Democrats are crooked but they’re not stupid. Efforts were focused most strongly on certain key swing states. But in general terms, if you want a secure ballot, limit or eliminate mail in ballots. Even France recognizes this.
Danny,
In ’20 Alabama had loosened the rules to request an absentee ballot to include health issues related to Covid. All the other normal rules of handling that ballot remained in place; only the voter can return it w/o specific waiver granted. To qualify for the waiver you have have a Physician write a letter stating the voter is:
1. Incapable of delivering the ballot
2. Still competent to vote
Voter must appoint their spouse or closest living family member to handle their ballot.
Must have Photo ID, and written application more than five days prior to election to request an absentee ballot. Absentee Ballots must be returned:
1. Via hand delivery COB/5 PM the day PRIOR to election day.
2. Via US Mail by Noon on election day
Alabama does not have mail in ballots. We do have a very restrictive absentee ballot procedure which basically precludes getting one unless a voter is out of the area on Military or Govt service, an Expat living abroad who has a valid physical address in Alabama, a medical condition that precludes them voting in person (proof required), an emergency surgery/procedure (proof required).
It is very difficult to get an absentee ballot in Bama. IMO this is just as it should be.
Multiple facts can be true.
I. “The March 2023 Manhattan indictment took a Republican primary that was closing between Trump and DeSantis, and blew it wide open in polling toward Trump. ”
1) Citizens are rallying around Trump as a reaction to both attempts to prevent them from nominating their preferred candidate, and the recognition that the charges are a reflection of the two-tiered justice system under the Biden administration.
2) Citizens are getting a better look at DeSantis since his May kickoff and have come to the conclusion that he looked better “on paper” than in person; which has led to a steady decline is his support, while other candidates have increased their support.
3) Citizens prefer Trump because he was one of the most successful presidents in our lifetimes.
II. “As I’ve said many times, the Florida federal indictment is legally straightforward, subject of course to proof.”
4) WAJ has tried and tried to convince fellow citizens that what the Biden administration is doing to Trump is “legally straightforward”; but we recognize that “straightforward” is how those that wish to see Trump defeated would describe the Biden administrations actions – it’s called gaslighting.
5) Good to see WAJ remember that in the USA there is a Presumption of Innocence.
“A presumption of innocence means that any defendant in a criminal trial is assumed to be innocent until they have been proven guilty. As such, a prosecutor is required to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the person committed the crime if that person is to be convicted. To do so, proof must be shown for every single element of a crime.” — Cornell Law School
III. “If Trump is indicted in Georgia, particularly if based on a RICO theory, it would be another electoral gift, …”
6) With friends like this – “… indicted [and facing imprisonment] .;.. another electoral gift…” – the citizens of this country do not need enemies.
Again, my unanswered question: How can Trump commit a crime in GA when he wasn’t even in the state?
An analogy: MD is a two party consent state for recording a phone call, NJ is a one party state, so if I call somebody in MD from NJ and record, can I be charged in MD?
No if a Dem. Remember those dear sweet Dems driving in their car and heard a Repub meeting… just had a tape recorder handy and recorded it?
What I’ve learned from Biden stealing the 2020 election is akin to Goebbel’s BIG LIE interpretation: if it is BIG -REALLY BIG – election theft, and everyone on that gravy train conspires to keep it rolling, then anyone, ANYONE, – candidates, voters, journalists, electors, must get on board and accept the results. Safe guards or red flags be damned. The gravy train uber alles.
Yet any who do substantially question, scrutinize, investigate, or challenge a stolen election will be hunted down like a criminal, guilty of criminal conspriracy destined to be crushed by the gravy train uber alles. Truth or facts be damned.
Did I leave anything out?
If they think that Trump is the easiest to beat, then why are they trying to make him ineligible or to keep him off the ballot in individual states?
Theater to promote the martyr trap.
What is most disturbing is that many of the GOPe who are supposed to be defenders of the constitution and fidelity to equal justice are either sitting on the sidelines or supporting the blatant targeting of the globalist’s political enemies.
It is not just Soros DA’s and blue state or city Democrat judges,
but apparently many of the Federal Judges in DC. I have read some appalling comments from judges in the J6 persecutions where they berated the defendants for continuing to support the wrong thought that there was manipulation of the 2020 election process, ballot harvesting and ballot counting. At least one of them during sentencing chastised the defendant for continuing to support Trump.
These Judges behavior is more what would be expected in the Soviet or Nazi show trials where judges frequently berated the defendants or demanded confessions for their political sins.
If the GOP wins control in 2024 they absolutely need to disperse the DOJ to the hinterlands of America and defund the DC Federal courts. If Obama could expand it, then the GOP can reduce it.
The GOP won control in 2016 and Trump did nothing to drain the Swamp, and arguably made it worse. He made a bunch of lousy DOJ/FBI appointments and turned the country over to Fauci. IMO, absent poor personnel choices, he would have won re-election. Why do you think this time would be any different, especially when Trump would be a lame-duck in short order and largely ignored by the elite and the Swamp?
Lame ducks who don’t get along with anyone and have their popularity capped at 46% are stronger than presidents with another potential term who win over their party and soothe party members into compliance because…………I have nothing.
And who was in charge of Congress 2017-2020? It started with Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell – both of whom distanced themselves from Trump pre-Nov 2016. Both acted to block Trump initiatives with a few exceptions – mainly the tax cuts and judicial appointments. His 2018 budget proposal called for $23 billion in border security and immigration enforcement, including the wall. The funding given was far less. 2019-2020 it was Cucky Schumer and Nancy Pelosi, so anything border related was DOA, so early 2019, Trump declared the national emergency to divert funds to the wall and the left went nuts.
Did Trump make some bad personnel decisions? Yes. The people who were supposed to help him navigate the swamp were themselves the swamp: Pence, Priebus to name two. The one guy who could have helped him was taken off the board early: Gen Flynn. By Pence, and a corrupt DOJ & FBI.
Fauci – the guy had been there for decades. No one knew how bad he was. Who was in charge of the task force? Pence. But something in June or July 2020 made Trump suspicious – he put Dr Scott Atlas into the COVID task force to give him an unfiltered independent view of what was going on. So I think he knew something wasn’t right. I also think that the task force was deliberately telling Trump about some more outlandish things to see if he would repeat them, which he sometimes did, causing media firestorms. From his perspective, seeing that happen not just once would make me very suspicious.
I don’t see this getting resolved outside of civil war
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oh5j7s1H7ek
I didn’t watch the link, but I have been convinced of that since the 90s.
Ballots should be run through the scanner multiple times to ensure that no ballots were stuck together and they scanned consistently.
I am still not convinced that Fanni Willis even has jurisction in the case. The underlying facts and attendant issues involve a federal election. That is the realm of the United States Attorney.
So, I see many black AGs prosecutors going after Trump. When can we see some white prosecutors going after Ilhan Omar and the rest of the criminal political scum in this country, just for starters.
I am sure that white prosecutors can manufacture crime an against blacks and begins full scale incarceration of blacks!
Ooops. Never mind. Joe Biden gave that ability when he sponsored a crime bill that incarcerated blacks in record numbers. Yet blacks STILL voted for him.
My bad.
So the 90s crime bill that put guilty people in prison and made our country safe while stopping a nationwide crime spree which every Republican supported is bad because…..
Dam right black people aren’t repulsed by the idea of keeping their neighborhoods safe, their daughters avenged on attackers, themselves from being mugged, their schools from being shot up, and their cars from being stolen….dam right that’s popular with black people.
Victims of black criminals ARE BLACK THEMSELVES (in almost every case). Maybe the mistake was trying to buy into leftist narratives about how the system put poor black people in prison just because the girl he was with said no, or because that heroine isn’t actually illegal and those 13 year olds he sold it to really wanted it……
Yes black people want their victims given justice not spat on with a revolving door prison system..
You missed the point nimrod.
Extortion? What threat did Trump utter that rises to the level of extortion?
” Trump is indicted in Georgia, particularly if based on a RICO theory, it would be another electoral gift, solidifying the ‘rally-around’ effect we’ve seen since the March 2023 Manhattan indictment. What the impact is in six months when voting starts in Iowa remains to be seen. The downside, of course, is possible conviction and incarceration that a federal pardon could not cure.”
The ‘rally-around effect’ is the downside.
This seems to be some sort of sparing event between someone named Danny and everyone else :-(. I have never in my lifetime seen anything like this weaponization of the government. I pray there is a turn around, but I see Trump as the only one with enough cojones to get it done. “Bad personality” and mean tweets aside.
How about the indictment of Kendra Kingsbury for exactly what Trump is indicted for?
If by get it done you mean Biden gets another term you are correct he could get it done.
If Trump had just turned over the demanded documents like Pence did he wouldn’t be indicted right now and there would be no special investigator.
Danny is some kind of leftist Democrat mouthpiece here to disparage right wing ideas in favor of the GOPe garbage that is endlessly coopted by his political comrades.
He needs a weaponized government so that he and his can raise the red flag over DC
“The downside, of course, is possible conviction and incarceration that a federal pardon could not cure.”
Yes, it’s a state crime, but isn’t Trump more likely, at least now, to get a pardon from R. Gov Kemp than from Joe Biden?
Why would Kemp pardon Trump?
He hates Trump, and has at least one legitimate reason for hating him (lack of support during the pandemic).