Wait a second. People like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortex (D-NY) told us no one is coming for our gas stoves! So did Chuck Schumer. Regulator Richard Trumka Jr. also said this.
The AP’s fact check said Biden’s administration isn’t taking our gas stoves.
What about the states? I guess they’re taking over since Trumka’s comments came to light a few months ago.
I urge the CPSC to develop uniform performance and ventilation standards for gas stoves and to increase consumer awareness about the health risks these appliances pose.
Read the full letter here: https://t.co/DJRUwGJQCw
— AG Brian Schwalb (@DCAttorneyGen) May 8, 2023
Maybe we aren’t conspiracy theorists. This is real life.
Eleven state attorneys general, including the dude from D.C., want federal action regarding gas stoves. D.C. AG Brian Schwalb is taking the lead:
“The undersigned State Attorneys General of the District of Columbia, Delaware, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, New York, Rhode Island, Oregon, Vermont, Washington, and the City of New York (‘States’) respectfully submit these comments on the Consumer Product Safety Commission’s (‘CPSC’) Request for Information on Chronis Hazards Associated with Fas Ranges and Proposed Solutions,” the AGs wrote. “The States support the CPSC’s initiative to collect information on the health hazards associated with gas stoves, to determine the best path forward to mitigate those harms and protect consumers. The States are particularly interested in measures that will reduce the harms associated with gas stoves due to their disproportionate impact on underserved communities.”
The letter pushes CPSC to develop performance standards.
But we’re not stupid. Just admit it. You want to ban gas stoves.
Why is New York involved? The state already banned natural gas hookups in new construction.
But it’s for the children! You don’t hate children, do you? Gotta pull at those heartstrings:
Living in a home with a gas stove increases the risk of asthma in children. Indeed, studies have shown that children living in a home with a gas stove are 42 percent more likely to experience asthma symptoms than children who live in homes with an electric stove. A peer-reviewed paper found that roughly 12.7 percent of childhood asthma (about on in eight cases) in the U.S. can be attributed to gas stove use. In addition to respiratory illnesses NO2 emitted by gas stoves can adversely impact neurodevelopment in children.
Schwalb cited a few studies, but how about the studies that show the opposite? This is from >Cooking fuels and prevalence of asthma: a global analysis of phase three of the International Study of Asthma and Allergies in Childhood (ISAAC):
Findings: Data were collected between 1999 and 2004. 512,707 primary and secondary school children from 108 centres in 47 countries were included in the analysis. The use of an open fire for cooking was associated with an increased risk of symptoms of asthma and reported asthma in both children aged 6-7 years (odds ratio [OR] for wheeze in the past year, 1·78, 95% CI 1·51-2·10) and those aged 13-14 years (OR 1·20, 95% CI 1·06-1·37). In the final multivariate analyses, ORs for wheeze in the past year and the use of solely an open fire for cooking were 2·17 (95% CI 1·64-2·87) for children aged 6-7 years and 1·35 (1·11-1·64) for children aged 13-14 years. Odds ratios for wheeze in the past year and the use of open fire in combination with other fuels for cooking were 1·51 (1·25-1·81 for children aged 6-7 years and 1·35 (1·15-1·58) for those aged 13-14 years. In both age groups, we detected no evidence of an association between the use of gas as a cooking fuel and either asthma symptoms or asthma diagnosis.
Interpretation: The use of open fires for cooking is associated with an increased risk of symptoms of asthma and of asthma diagnosis in children. Because a large percentage of the world population uses open fires for cooking, this method of cooking might be an important modifiable risk factor if the association is proven to be causal.
Then the AGs rant about ventilation. Um, who doesn’t ventilate when they’re cooking, whether it’s with electric or gas? You need that ventilation whether you have electric or gas. I don’t know who doesn’t use the ventilation when they’re cooking because that steam and smoke can get annoying!
They mention recirculating ventilation hoods like they’re evil. Except the hoods have filters and clean the air before going back to the house:
A recirculating, or ductless, range hood protects your indoor air quality without the need for the external ducting used by a ducted range hood.
How does a ductless range hood work? In a recirculating range hood, the high-powered insert fan captures the kitchen exhaust, purifying the air through heavy-duty charcoal filters. This way, ductless range hoods improve the quality of your air without fully removing it from your home.
You give them an inch they will go a mile. You give into this request you think they’ll stop?
They won’t. They want to ban gas stoves. They want you to use electric everything.
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How the ever-loving F is this the jurisdiction of any DA? Don’t they have any actual CRIMINALS to deal with?
No, they want YOU AND I to deal with them – and then prosecute us.
If you and I deal with them, it’s their successors who will have to prosecute us.
So, take them out as well. Uhm, erm, to dinner and a show of course…!
D.C. is apparently crime-free, now, thus leaving the Dumb-o-crats ample time to focus on more important matters.
The left has a problem with going into the bedrooms but no problem in going into you kitchen
For these AGs and other associated activists WE are the criminals.
Leave the gas stoves alone and stop the gaslighting.
The Gas Stove Asthma study is worse than junk science!
Its academic fraud
1) the study used PAF – population attribution fraction methodology. It is well known & well established in the professional scientific literature that population attribution fraction becomes meaningless for trying to ascertain a single factor when multiple factors are involved.
2) As previously noted, they study used the PAF to compute the correlation for each state. However, the approximately 20 states had slight positive correlation approx 10 states had no correlation and approx 20 states had moderate to large negative correlations., Thus demonstrating zero correlation
3) It was a meta study which means they didnt do any actual field work, they just did search for studies that fit the results. The selection criteria was designed to eliminate actual field studies that showed zero correlation.
Flat out academic fraud
Sounds a lot like climate “science”
Paul – the difference is parts of climate science have some basis in reality and are subject to legitimate scientific debate. Parts have some basis in reality- other parts of climate science is junk science and with many major parts simply unknown based on our current level of knowledge. I fall into the Judith Curry camp, though slightly less confident that she is.
The gas stove study on the other hand is pure junk science, The study authors know the results are bogus.
Climate “science”? I am still waiting for those studies that examine the warming phase of interglacial periods.
“Climate science” is the study of the climate. “Anthropogenic climate change” is a hypothesis (“human activity is affecting the climate”) that has an accompanying theory (“humanity’s CO2 emissions are causing climate change”) explaining how the hypothesis might work, with proof of the latter being non-existent. Computer simulations are not proofs, they are merely demonstrations of how the theory may act in the real world. Nobody has yet demonstrated that any of the simulations are accurate. “Climate change” modelers have, over the decades, made many predictions based on their models, none of which proved accurate, an indication that the models are deeply flawed, and to be relied upon for neither making predictions nor policy.
These AG should go after those little propane canisters…. they tend to burn down / blow up in the rolling drug dens that are littering all the states on this list.
No way! Hands off my little propane canister! I use them with my weed torch. The greenie tree hugger lefties don’t like chemicals, thus the weed torch. I am a search and destroy kind of guy who likes to see the weeds shrink away and die before my eyes, thus the weed torch. Viva la weed torch!! Get your hands off my canister junk, bro.
“Popcorn Lung” 2.0
Create a small suspect study that doesn’t make firm conclusions, try to enforce all policy through that study because activists only read headlines.
We live in a tyranny that pretends to have real elections
“It’s a whole different country from what we thought it was. It’s all fake.”
In those deep blue States the majority of the population decided to elect these sorts of Activists as AG. The list is of the usual suspects of progressive States who compete with each other for 2nd place behind CA in the wokiesta olympics of stupid public policy.
“Maybe we aren’t conspiracy theorists.”
Never forget that the very phrase itself was manufactured by the intelligence swamp to smear people who rejected their phony findings about the Kennedy assassination. It means you’re over the target.
These Attorneys General should be taking it to the legislatures of their own states to pass laws if they consider gas stoves is such a pressing issue.
But that’s not what this is about.
This is about giving the Feds an excuse to force it on all of us.
Criminal sociopaths have free rein to engage in their predations against innocents on the streets of D.C., but, the vile Dumb-o-crat apparatchiks are focusing on the alleged threat posed by gas stoves.
You can’t make this stuff up. The manifest stupidity, callousness and incompetence of the Dumb-o-crats distilled down to its essence.
The states ehose AGs signed that letter sound like a who’s who of states going down the drain. Now they want to inflict on all of us the pain they’re inflicting on their own residents. We need to counter this.
Those blades make a lot of noise, at various frequencies, and vibrations on the mounts will be radiated great distances in the water.
Windmills are whale killers.
When they talk about “indoor particulate air pollution”, remember that they’re not talking about asbestos or black mold, but rather things we like to call “the smells of home cooking” and “pet dander”.
Democrats are brain-dead cultists, there is no other explanation. Ordinary people simply cannot be this stupid.
There’s a Democrat born every minute. — P. T. Brandon
So, according to the vile and hypocritical Dumb-o-crats, it’s okay to murder a baby in the womb, but, it’s wrong to expose a child to gas stove cooking?
Talk about these despicable reprobates having a seriously warped and illogical moral framework.
They just want what they want, when they want it.
Children are just one arrow in a quiver full of rationalizations.
“A quiver full of rationalizations” — that’s a very apt way of phrasing it.
Attorneys General
Noted, and fixed, thanks!
The reason conservatives are prone to conspiracy theories is because the “progressives” are prone to conspiracies…
1) Shouldn’t that be “attorneys general” rather than attorney generals?
2) They’re also going after our washing machines and dishwashers.
3) The left won’t be happy until we’re sitting around in dingy clothes eating bugs & raw vegetables off dirty plartes.
Yes, the general acts as an adjective. It is sickening how stupid congressmen address the Surgeon General as General. He actually holds the rank of Vice Admiral. Let’s ensure (not insure) that this blog keeps its grammar clean.
And stop using “woman” as an adjective.
Arguably they still won’t be happy.
Happiness is only achieved in their utopia when you evolve yourself into a non-corporeal state.
1) Yes. Fixed, thanks!
Curious. My two children have lived their entire lives in a house with a gas stove and a gas water heater tank. They’re now 16 and 14.
Neither of them have ever caught asthma.
The Blue State rulers are LIARS. All they want to do is RULE OVER YOU. don’t let them.
Also, on top of everything else, it is NOT “11 State Attorney Generals”. DC is not and never has been a state. And the New York one is NOT the state attorney general, but the one for the city of New York.
I don’t know if the headline writer for the original piece is a liar or an idiot or both. (I know which way I’m betting.)
You should think about this a little more. If there is an emergency that requires the government to turn off stoves, it is so much easier for them to do it with a switch at the electrical utility than it is to send tens of thousands of plumbers to each house. Imagine if some people refused to answer the door, you think there is time to get warrants during an emergency?
“Wait a second. People like Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortex (D-NY) told us no one is coming for our gas stoves! So did Chuck Schumer. Regulator Richard Trumka Jr. also said this.”
They’re not coming for our guns, either.
They’ve gotten really bad at this, or perhaps they’re just convinced that the tide has shifted inexorably in their favor. They don’t even wait long enough after the initial kerfluffle dies down for people to forget about it before they demonstrate that the “conspiracy theory” was in fact true.
What the hell are these people doing demanding policy be made?
Isn’t their job to enforce the laws in their state, made by their lawmakers, who aren’t them?
I do wonder if this isn’t also a run at the recent restriction on agencies’ free Authoritah. Look, see, all these AGs want this policy you are too dumb to know we need. Stove have “all the earmarks” of indoor pollution, don’t you know.
In what universe is the safety of gas stoves, let alone anything, the purview of AGs?
If State AG’s want gas stove legislation they should go to their state legislators and governors to get it. Their objective is to get the legislation in a way to avoid blow back from their electorate. We need more focused democracy not less. Get the Feds out of state / local issues.