Manhattan Grand Jury Indicts Trump in Stormy Daniels Hush Money Case
It remains sealed and we do not know the charges.
The Manhattan grand jury indicted President Donald Trump in the hush money case even though they haven’t met or heard about it.
This info is from sources and hasn’t been officially released.
DA Alvin Bragg inherited the case when he came into office in 2022 but suspended it. Then he brought it back when Trump announced his 2024 presidential campaign.
Supposedly Trump paid Stormy Daniels $130,000 to keep quiet about an alleged affair. His former lawyer Michael Cohen said he set it up, paid it out of his pocket, and the Trump Organization paid him back as “legal expenses”:
Cohen paid Daniels personally, but was reimbursed by the Trump Organization under the guise of legal expenses – leading federal prosecutors to charge the money had been falsely accounted for.
Bragg’s case hinges on the allegation that the crime of falsifying business records — bookkeeping fraud — was done in the commission of another crime, a campaign finance violation, The New York Times reported in March. The Times reported the charge would amount to a “low level” felony.
If Trump is convicted of bookkeeping fraud as a felony he could face up to four years in prison.
The charge usually has a five-year statute of limitations as a felony, but those are extended when a defendant continuously lives out of state, as Trump did during his presidency, the Times reported.
The statute of limitations was also extended by more than a year in New York due to the coronavirus pandemic.
Bragg’s office said it would “coordinate” Trump’s surrender to the office “for arraignment on a Supreme Court indictment, which remains under seal.”
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So much for Trump allegedly inventing this, solely to make money.
Yawn ………………………
Get some rest. People were vilifying him for that just yesterday!
Some one did an entire article.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/03/trump-lawyer-about-that-tuesday-arrest-date-nevermind/
Maybe there will be an update.? Nahhh.
Why would there be an update? The linked report is correct.
You’re getting do a downvotes which tells me some DeSantis maniacs support this. Which I’ve stated all along.
Perhaps. Not into the popularity contests, although it’s comical to see it occur with totally innocuous comments.
It only hurts at first. You’ll get used to it.
Does not matter in any event. Not worth participating in. It’s just funny when it happens, based on the person.
Show me the person, I’ll show you the crime!
Lol. Who ever said that?!
Go back and find it. Can’t help it if you don’t know, and naming names is not productive.
Translation: You can’t prove what you claim.
No. Just have more sense than to get personal. Again, anyone that interested, and not lazy, can easily see it. But how about this:
“The only person who can be embarrassed by this is Trump, who invented the whole “They’re coming to take me away” hoax..”
Happy now, Karen?
That’s right, the only person who could possibly be embarrassed by it (if he were capable of shame, which he isn’t) is Trump, who did invent that whole hoax. Nobody was coming to take him away when he claimed it, nobody came last Tuesday, and nobody is coming now. He has now been lawfully indicted and he will come to NY and surrender as is his lawful duty. That is NOT AT ALL what he claimed was going to happen.
Never thought I’d see it in the US.
https://www.oxfordeagle.com/2018/05/09/show-me-the-man-and-ill-show-you-the-crime/
No, you f***ing liar. Trump INVENTED his claim, supposedly based an “illegal leak” that he invented, that THEY WERE COMING TO ARREST HIM, and that they were going to do it last Tuesday. Nobody is coming to arrest him, and there was never any plan to have anyone come and arrest him. At that point the grand jury had not voted for an indictment and nobody could possibly know whether there was one coming or not, and if so when. Trump is a liar and he invented that lie for his own benefit. And you are a liar too.
what does the place of residency have to do with the statute of limitations?
It should mean nothing since they didn’t consider it worth pursuing until 7 years after the fact.
I wonder where he was domiciled, where he paid income taxes? Hm , I understand his tax returns were illegally leaked, so should be easy to determine.
‘The statute of limitations was also extended by more than a year in New York due to the coronavirus pandemic.”
Oh, conveeeeeeenience on top of conveeeeeeenience!
The statue of limitations is to protect defendants, not to convenience prosecutors.
So the state should not be able to arbitrarily extend it for “health reasons.”
The claim is that the statute of limitations was tolled because of Covid and for times he was out of state. I haven’t looked into it, but I heard the argument may be from Turley, who didn’t necessarily agree but gave Bragg’s argument.
The claims are what ever Democrats say they are.
Outrageous.
Republicans need to start going after Democrats with gusto on everything.
Remember that 16 year old Obama killed with a drone strike? Whatever state that kid lived in should charge Obama with murder.
Republicans lack the balls, they are all talk and no action
They don’t lack the balls. They are playing for the other team.
Without balls.
They all circled the wagons for stuff like the Patriot Act or Ukraine.
It should be easy to impeach Biden for taking millions in bribes from China and Russia.
It is easy. All it takes is a majority vote in the House. But it is impossible to convict him in the senate. And he would trumpet his acquittal as a vindication, just as Clinton did.
That is treasonous bullshit. First of all, where the kid was from is irrelevant. A county does not get jurisdiction over a crime committed outside its boundaries just because the victim lived there.
Second, the enemy soldier was killed in a legitimate act of war, and no state or county has the right to call it murder, let alone the jurisdiction to charge the president of the time for it. The conduct of war is outside the jurisdiction of the courts. Trying to charge him would be an act of insurrection against the USA. And if that’s what you’re really proposing then you’ve let your hatred for 0bama turn you into an ally of our enemies, and thus yourself an enemy of the USA.
It will be unsealed when it will benefit DeSantis the most.
Or maybe DeSantis is the better, stand-alone candidate? Remember: there are other grand juries going on.
Rooting for indictments. Maybe Trump was indicted because the opposition believe he is the better candidate.
Alvin Bragg indicted Trump because he is a team player who knows there is a 0% chance Trump doesn’t lose to Biden.
He is actively trying to influence the Republican Primaries in favor of Trump.
Whatever floats your boat. You’re an apparent Trump lover, after all.
I think Danny loves the way Trump touches him right in the feeeeelz!
No, he isn’t. And you DeSantis maniacs are a fraud.
If DeSantis runs he will not get my vote. Every last Republican should be fighting against this behind Trump.
The following elections are the total of Donald Trump’s electoral career.
1. 2016-Lost the popular vote by millions of voters to HILLARY CLINTON, won because Hillary determined three swing states were out of play and never visited (don’t believe me explain how exactly he got fewer votes in Wisconsin than Mitt Romney)
2. 2018-Blue Wave year
3. 2020- Democrats keep the house, flip the senate, and win the presidency
4. 2022-With the ideal circumstances for a Red Wave year Trump single handedly prevented it allowing Democrats to expand their power in the senate and making Republican power in the house minimal.
Every Republican is fighting against this indictment.
Every Republican with a brain will refuse Alvin Bragg’s attempt to make us choose somebody hated by the American voter who has a 0% chance of victory.
Trump is entitled to no loyalty he has none himself.
Don’t worry. I’m sure they will create something to hit him with if he wins the nomination.
You’re seriously wishcasting if you think this will stop if Trump gets removed.
No, DeSantis is not. Again, my vote is only reserved for Trump. Nobody else.
What an absolutely stupid comment
The leftist reaction will be precious. Revealing the hypocrisy of pretend democrats.
They will claim that no one is above the law, but apparently Trump is below it.
If no one is above the law, Hillary would be wearing an orange jumpsuit and sitting in a federal pen right now.
They only “claim” it. She is above the law, along with her cronies and henchmen.
They will just redefine ‘no one’ to only include their enemies. That’s how lefties roll.
They must be hiding something pretty bad to keep us distracted. I think the wells are coming of the bus.
wheels not wells
You know it’s bad when the wheel wells come off.
As any RVer who has had a blowout can tell you (they do).
Trump hires the best lawyers on the planet. He has no idea of the intricacies of what is going on down on the base level. To think that the lyning Cohen should be believed on anything is laughable. That DA needs to be disbarred for trying to do this on a case every level including Federal did not want anything to do with it should tell you all you need to know. What a farce
who do you think would ever disbar Bragg, the courts are as corrupt as he is
Bragg is taking orders from the DOJ and Fuzzy.
OMG, that is hilarious, Phil! I am so glad you haven’t completely lost your sense of humor.
We have to laugh to get through this with our sanity intact.
“”Trump hires the best lawyers on the planet.””
He hired Cohen.
The man’s hiring record is his Achilles Heel, you won’t get an argument from me.
R.I.P.
7/4/1776 ~ 3/30/2023
“It Was Fun While It Lasted”
A little John Paul Jones action still is needed.
The Left…across the board is pushing and pushing. Occupying state legislatures on “9un control” and “trans rights”. Going after SCOTUS justices. None of this is spontaneous.
and nobody is doing a thing to stop it
A big part of it is the billion that Obama extorted from BoA.
“We had to extend the statute of limitations because the defendant was out of state.”
“Oh, he moved back to New York, then?”
“Well, not exactly. At all. What, do we need to find another excuse?”
Is that extension in the law, I’ve not been able to find it, or is it Bragg’s wishful thinking?
New York Criminal Procedure Law, Section 30.10(4):
So has Trump really not set foot in New York state since the statute of limitations of the supposed offense expired?
And are they talking domicile or physical presence? Both of them cut both ways, but you have to figure out which one to swing.
To answer some of the questions that have come up:
what counts as being continuously outside the state?
People v. Knobel effectively read the word ‘continuous’ out of the statute. Courts don’t count any time you were physically outside New York for an entire calendar day towards the SOL.
Doesn’t that mean a NY prosecutor could charge a visitor for some BS misdemeanor decades after the fact?
Yes.
That’s some bullshit
Yes. But it’s the same bullshit everybody is subject to. A lot of states have SOLs that work similarly.
So if you commit a minor crime in NY college, move to California for fifty years or so, and then decide to run for office, some political hack of a prosecutor in NY can decide to haul your carcass back to NY and hammer you into a jail cell, but if you stayed in the Big Apple for a few years first, all they could do is pound sand? Wow, that sounds…. fair. Not.
Wonder if that would survive a Constitutional challenge?
Indeed, the language is a bit indeterminate. If he visited anywhere in NY (say) three times in (say) 2020 even if only for day trips or changing or refueling planes at JFK airport does that only add three days to the clock or 365 days to the clock? The word “continuous” imply its not a day at a time clock pause. It could be easily interpreted that if, in a (say) 5 year period he visited NY even once the clock runs during that entire 5 years. The language as quoted is poorly written law.
Secondly if it’s somehow too difficult to prosecute if the individual is out of state – so the prosecution needs a handicap – why/how is it that they have no problem prosecuting the individual while he/she isvSTILL out of state – as in Trump’s case?
A very sad day in the history of the United States. The Democrats have now crossed the rubicon and we are facing tyranny.
The Dems believe they have covered all the bases.
Moping with intent to creep. That’s what they got G Gordon Liddy for.
General mopery.
Don’t ever disarm.
He’s going to use his mug shot as his campaign photo.
You win my internet!!
Trump’s polling numbers are going to leap another 10%. It is becoming clear to more and more people that Trump is the only one standing between us and Satan.
Well…not the only one between us and Satan.
I’m hoping Jesus is between me and Satan.
It is the change in Trump’s polling numbers versus Biden’s that matters.
I love Trump and all… only person I’ve ever voted for who I believed would do what the people want. But this statement you posted is really retarded. I imagine you made it on purpose.
Jesus would like a word.
What happens to Joe Biden now, when he leaves office?
Democrats set precedents that have drastic consequences.
Do you think they really care?? As long as we don’t touch Saint Obama…that would make the whole world revolt.
Democratic prosecutors will not always be in charge. But they may have established a new norm.
Bragg replaces MLK as #1 when Black History month comes around next Feb.
Would not be surprised to see Georgia now move forward. Piling on.
Will the American people finally become fed up? Better do it soon, or there will be no coming back to the founding principles of this country.
Makes me happy that I am old, and probably won’t be around when it falls for good.
got descendants? 😰🥛
At the rate it has gone since 2008, it may beat AOC’s prediction. Trying to remain an idealist, in spite of it.
Ms. Chastain:
You noted in the post, “The charge usually has a five-year statute of limitations as a felony, but those are extended when a defendant continuously lives out of state…”
Is there somewhere on-line to which you could point us where we can look up the New York State statutes covering this extension of the statute of limitations? IANAL but I am curious as to exactly what that kind of extension covers.
Thank you.
Even if their is such a law, it would violate the equal protection under the law cause of the constitution.
equal protection, in United States law, the constitutional guarantee that no person or group will be denied the protection under the law that is enjoyed by similar persons or groups. In other words, persons similarly situated must be similarly treated. Equal protection is extended when the rules of law are applied equally in all like cases and when persons are exempt from obligations greater than those imposed upon others in like circumstances.
I knew there was something about that provision that bothered me. Someone can ALWAYS be indicted in absentia if they’re not aware of their whereabouts in order to indict before the statute of limitations runs out. But remember, there appears to be in most courts today an “Orange Man Bad” exemption to all normal rules and procedures.
As I point out below…. as elected President of the USA, it would be ridiculous if not dangerous for the country to remain in New York. They had their chance for a long time.
DeSantis will be issuing a statement in 1, 2, 3……..112….. 3666……. never mind. It make take months for Ron!!! and his marketing team to gather all the facts and process them. Everyone pull out your white boards!
Why should he release a statement based on anonymous sources from CNN?
He’s already released a statement.
We get it, Phil, you don’t like DeSantis.
Except you’re wrong. As usual.
https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1641575007552778243
So get ready to move those goalposts and claim that “OK, sure he issued a statement, but it’s not strong enough!” I’ve already had some cretin in another comment section claim that DeSantis should arrest anyone sent to arrest Trump, so maybe you could go with that.
We are now finally going to learn whether there are any Republican patriots at all. This is the moment.
We are going to find out quickly those not on our side even if they say they are.
Yes; have you seen Governor DeSantis’ statement. If not, you should. Florida will NOT assist in extradition.
Especially if there is no request for extradition to assist with. That said, compared to other responses coming out, the statement cleared the hurdle, though not by much.
They are not doing anyone favors by doing their duty as Americans. It is their sworn obligation to defend their country and our constitution. It’s their oath of office. We don’t hand out trophies to people who refrain from robbing us either.
Huh? Pretty sure that’s the ENTIRE rationale for welfare.
Trump’s lawyers and the Secret Service are negotiating the logistics of the booking process. There is nothing for DeSantis to fight.
He can’t stay in the state of Florida and run a campaign or even live his normal life. He will be convicted by a NY jury in Manhattan. What will happen in an appeal is unknown. Whether Bragg is moving forward to ensure Trump is the nominee as a beatable opponent is irrelevant. This is weaponization of the legal system, a blatant abuse of authority, acts beyond a political dirty trick, and it doesn’t matter what terms you want to apply to Trump’s persona. I am sick over what is not even being hidden. The election is secondary to the travesty that has occurred today.
At this point, campaigning with rallies telecast from a prison cell would be just as effective and even more poignant. Potatus hid in his basement without campaigning in 2020.
So much for laws in books, Leftists charge what they like and walk away from what they don’t. And if they don’t like the law they make up anything they want
Disgusting
Mark Levin? He is in FL interviewing Trump as we speak.
https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1641575007552778243?s=20
Lol down vote
You suck
The shit just hit the fan. Is everyone ready? Too late to prep now.
Bookkeeping fraud? Did the Trump Organization or Trump skim it off the top of pre-tax income? If not (i.e., the taxes were paid) then who was defrauded or how was the State of New York harmed by calling the payment another name?
Because you can deduct “business expenses” from your business profits to reduce your tax liability, but extortion payoffs not so much.
No one was being extorted. Unless we now have a new, Democrat provided, definition of extortion? Which seems to be the case.
Now we’ll see which judge they get to carry Bragg’s political water. It shouldn’t be hard to find one in the People’s Republic of Manhattan.
Apparently, there are also a bunch of business “crimes.” As if that matters.
From fake news CNN:
Donald Trump indicted by Manhattan grand jury on more than 30 counts related to business fraud
https://www.cnn.com/2023/03/30/politics/donald-trump-indictment/index.html
If there were 30 counts of business fraud, they would have been found by 30 million dollars of FBI investigation
He’s the cleanest President ever
We are a banana republic
Sorry Washington, Lincoln….
We failed
The judge will condition Trump’s bail on his not discussing the case, or criticizing the prosecutors. Or maybe even not campaigning. Mark my words, it will happen.
So Trump takes it under advisement and doesn’t comply. Even if he does, there is Don Trump Jr who is a very good campaigner too. This could be the event that creates multiple Trump problems for the commies. It’s up to us as well to not comply. And could we please stop being told to not protest? This is lamest resistance in history. Enough with the limp-wristed advice. Speak up loud and clear!!! It’s not as if these Malthusians are planning a future that includes 7-8 billion people to survive! Let’s die fighting!
Alvin Bragg is playing 3d chess and is likely to succeed.
Congratulations to Biden because if Trump is our nominee Biden remains the president as long as he wants to be.
Likely to succeed at what Danny? Showing everyone the political Democrat whack job he is?
Sounds like you have admiration for Mr. Bragg. Is your TDS that severe?
“but those are extended when a defendant continuously lives out of state, as Trump did during his presidency, the Times reported.”
He was required to live out of the state. It was the “choice” of the People of the United states. That takes precedence! It’s not George Washington being in New York. They had plenty of time to impanel a Grand Jury.
A person elected to federal office neither gains nor loses a legal residence by virtue of service in DC. The Senator from HI for example is not by service in DC a legal resident of DC. For purposes of statute of limitations, Trump’s attorney’s could argue that he was not “absent from NY” when he served as president. And, his attorneys may well seek a change of venue to upstate on the grounds that NYC’s political makeup makes it virtually impossible for him to get a fair trial in NY County. (Manhattan). Wish the press would stop referring to this as a “hush money” case. Lawyers know that lawsuits are frequently settled on a non-admission basis because it is cheaper and less life threatening for them to have the case go away and so worth the cost. Calling it a “hush money” case implies the case had some merit and was not a nuisance case brought against a wealthy individual.
So interesting; a good half a dozen news cycles screaming “34 counts” we can’t see. Predictions so far are running heavily to a bunch of counts tagged on one action. It’s like this is a PR op, provisioned by a “prosecution.”
I do wonder, how many intelligence organizations say this is probably a good indictment (til we get to see the evidence)? I assume there are at least 51 intelligence officials declaring “it has all the earmarks” of whatever.