Canadian Study Shows 55% of Trans Women with ‘Bottom Surgery’ in Pain for Years after Surgery
Meanwhile, via Libs of Tik Tok, in a shocking reversal of all things progressive, a trans activists explains why man-made is superior to natural.
A Canadian study examined 80 men who had the “bottom surgery” to transition to “women” at one clinic, complained of pain, and required medical care years after surgery.
Researchers from the Women’s College Hospital (WCH) in Ontario, Canada, analyzed the medical records of 80 patients who sought care from the clinic between three months and five years after having the operation.
Campaigners say the findings demonstrate that complex surgeries like vaginoplasty often carry risks that patients are unaware of – at a time when there has been a dramatic uptick in the number of gender reconstruction surgeries in the US and Canada
…All 80 patients had the original vaginoplasty procedure outside of the Women’s College health system but were experiencing symptoms that needed follow-up care.
Some had traveled as far as India and Thailand to have the operations, which the researchers say may explain the relatively high number of medical complaints.
The most common symptoms reported by post-op patients were pain (53.5 percent), bleeding (42.5 percent) and dilation issues (46.3 percent).
Severe side effects were much rarer, but in 12 cases – or 15 percent – patients experienced vaginal stenosis, the narrowing and shortening of the vagina.
Of course, trans activists will likely work hard to provide “alternative facts.” For example, via Libs of TikTok, one activist explains that manufactured versions are superior to natural ones…because they cost real money.
Male transgender activist claims fake man-made vaginas are superior to real ones pic.twitter.com/k2w7g53Et8
— Libs of TikTok (@libsoftiktok) January 18, 2023
Claiming man-made is superior to natural is a shocking reversal of all things progressive.
Also, they will be working hard to suppress information. Department of Health and Human Services Assistant Secretary Rachel Levine recently called Big Tech companies to censor “misinformation” about “gender-affirming care” for kids online.
This resulted in some backlash.
Levine, a transgender woman, made the statements in May, though the video gained newfound attention on Twitter just after Christmas. Prominent Twitter users expressed horror that a government official was asking tech companies to censor content disputing that gender-affirming care for youth is a thing of “positive value.”
During a May 27 zoom address to the Federation of State Medical Boards in New Orleans, Dr. Levine spoke about the need for the government to “address health misinformation directly” and specified that includes encouraging Big Tech to combat health misinformation “beyond COVID-19.”
The doctor said, “So I’d like to just talk briefly about another area of substantial misinformation that is directly impacting health equity in our nation, and that is the health equity of sexual and gender minorities. There is substantial misinformation about gender-affirming care for transgender and gender diverse individuals.”
Levine then claimed that the country is “facing an onslaught of anti-LGBTQI+ actions at the state levels across the United States,” adding, “They are dangerous to the public health.”
Levine continued, saying, “The positive value of gender-affirming care for youth and adults is not in scientific or medical dispute.”
This is so much real information Levine is not offering.
The Canadian report clearly shows serious, adverse health consequences with significant surgical alterations to organs and tissue.
Furthermore, I explored the health consequences of giving children puberty blockers.
We also reported that a hormone blocker (Lupron) prescribed to children diagnosed with gender dysphoria has been linked to thousands of deaths.
I can only hope that, in the wake of Elon Musk’s take-over of Twitter, at least one of the most important social media platforms will permit real information related to trans-medical treatments to be shared.
If you want to go trans, great. But please be fully informed when you do.
And don’t force your children into surgeries….allow them to grow up and make their own choices as fully-formed adults!
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These clowns are having ‘bottom surgery’? They are getting operated on the wrong end.
Bottom surgery sounds like a pain in the butt.
If some dude has the depth of commitment to live as a debutant via chop then ….well ok. I can actually respect those who don’t do half measures. Consenting adults should be allowed to pay for the cosmetic surgery of their own choice.
That said there is very little data about long-term health issues. What we do have is troubling. There have always been quack docs and snake oil sales to the gullible. Many of these folks have convinced themselves that fully embracing trans identity is the cure for their problems.
There is a large amount of exploitation in this field with docs writing up positive assessments of patient suitability for cash, similar to pill mills. At a minimum we must keep minor children out of the hands of corrupt medical providers who offer services due to an ideological agenda or simple money grabbing opportunity.
I somewhat agree with you but it is definitely not cost-neutral even if “adults” pay their own way.
The likelihood of complications that interfere with one’s ability to work are higher than other procedures. The likelihood that complications lead to lawsuits that strain the system (whether successful or not) at the malpractice end of the cost spectrum are higher than other procedures.
For elective/cosmetic stuff like this, you should have to sign a legally ironclad waiver that you are responsible for what happens to you.
Agreed as long the surgeon and others met professional standards of care in the delivery of the surgical service. The patient shouldn’t have to agree to hold them harmless from negligence, incompetence or malpractice.
I always wonder who is paying for this surgery. Some people claim that insurance may pay for it.. depending.. How hard is it for someone to prove that they were born the wrong gender, and their mental health depends on this complicated process? Bariatric surgery may be life saving, but many times it is considered elective, and so people have to pay out of pocket. I don’t get it.. nope. I don’t understand a surgeon doing this level of damage to an (otherwise) healthy person.
As far as I am concerned, trans = pretend = make believe.
People who need bariatric surgery aren’t on leftist “favored citizens” list. Trans surgical mutilation is nothing but uninsurable cosmetic surgery, but the LBGTQWERTY mafia has friendly politicians who pass regulations declaring, for example, that breasts in a biological woman are “abnormal growths” and thereby opening insurance company ratepayers to looting under color of law.
Which is a perfect example of a super argument for government handling our health system.
Bariatric surgery is covered more frequently now but does have hoops.
-Psych eval
-1 yr counseling program completed prior
-Any screenings for underlying conditions that could present risk at surgery (heart, liver, etc.)
At a very minimum, gender surgery should have at least these three requirements, coverage or no coverage.
“Once they get you to change your language, you have now complied with their ideology”
Rachel Levine is a man. He can dress any way he wants, cut or not cut his hair any way he wants, cal himself whatever he wants, he is what he is.
And NO, whatever they create with that surgery is NOT a vagina.
“Ain’t Nothing Like the Real Thing”, Marvin Gaye – Tammy Terrell.
Which prompts a question: how many men transitioning to a woman opt for having a period every 28 days complete with several days of intense PMS?
Saw a video on Twitter last week with one of them doing a lot of dramatic wailing and bed-flopping about how painful his period was… of course it was 100% psychosomatic (or maybe it was appendicitis?)
I can recommend better videos to watch Henry. 😉 Check out some Altai throat singing … https://youtu.be/Mhr0XbGBOPg
Richard Levine. Rather than drop the Dick moniker her renamed himself Rachel. If he still has a penis then he’s a Dick.
It’s a wig, fake, just like him
A vagina can birth a human baby. A vagina can engage in gratifying sexual intercourse.
An amputated penis with a surgically-crafted labia can do neither of these things.
55% are in pain. The other 45% are high on meth.
How convenient that “researchers say [using foreign medical facilities] may explain the relatively high number of medical complaints.” No self-interest in that assessment! The post-surgical complications seem consistent with those in every article I have read about the downside of such operations, and seem to have little to do with where the surgery was performed. It’s more likely that patients aren’t fully informed of potential life-long complications because such knowledge would disrupt the money train.
The story always uses the wrong gender for understanding what’s going on. A trans woman ought to be a woman pretending to be a man, not a man pretending to be a woman. This gets particularly acute when the story is about bottom surgery.
You start with a woman, and apply “trans” to it, and you get a woman pretending to be a man. What could be clearer?
Whenever someone uses that term face to face with me, I always make it a point of asking, “Is she a woman who made herself into a man, or a man who made himself into a woman?” The reaction I get tells me whether I’m having a conversation with a loon or a normie afraid of cancellation.
Here’s the way I keep oriented towards reality when reading or hearing trans-speak:
Replace any form of the term trans with the word “Fake.”
“Canadian Study Shows 55% of Fake Women with ‘Bottom Surgery’ in Pain for Years after Surgery”
I have yet to find a situation where that didn’t make everything crystal clear.
Even my own term “trans-speak” becomes fake-speak. Dead accurate.
Ersatz also works; it means an inferior imitation.
That’s my approach: “trans X” = fake X.
Hell, many people who have had hip and knee replacement surgeries — bread and butter assembly-line procedures performed for genuine medical reasons — are still in pain years later.
Surgery is nothing like getting your ears pierced. This ain’t Star Wars, where you can get a new hand in a couple of weeks and never have to think about it again.
This.^^^^^ Minor surgery is surgery on someone else. The population statistics “commonplace” is still individual, invasive, and quite personal.
Of course they are pitching kids who haven’t had surgeries. People who have had surgeries are chary of more. Doing it once makes you understand that they’re re-arranging your parts with blades, sometimes hammers and files. (There are a few new, particularly awful, laser surgeries, plus chemical debridement, and both thermal and electrical interventions. We’re not shy about applying any new techno-toys to flesh.)
After surgery you always have a “wound” to repair, and I do not mean the euphemism for the construction these folks are going for. Literal “wound.” As in damage. As in tissue cut, replaced, removed, relocated, remodeled. Yr body is not happy.
Plastic surgeries — which these procedures are — are particularly fraught. Anything involving diverse tissues and multiple functional structures is fraught. That makes these surgeries fraught-squared. They aren’t restoring to what was, but re-configuring to a new state, making these fraught-cubed. THIS IS A BIG DEAL.
Excellent points!
To paraphrase Tolkien -adventures are stories of other people far from home, hungry and tired, fighting for their lives.
Surgery being misused as a synonym for precise or benign has always made me laugh. The first thing that happens is one is stripped naked, then given sedatives to render them unconscious before being wheeled in absolutely helpless to a room full of people who will cut them open. Then those people poke and prod their insides with various scary looking metal instruments. Removing this and inserting that. Not to mention lots of blood.
To paraphrase PT Barnum, “There’s big money in it.”
To paraphrase Tolkien: “Adventures are just disasters, except that they happen to other people in other places.”
Or a similar line I once heard (not sure who said it) “Adventures are things that suck when they happen to you.”
Yeah, exactly so.
That surgery is often successful, often with science-fiction level result, doesn’t mean the path there is always clean, or ever easy. It’s always a fraught last resort. Bigly.
These poor, callow kids are sanguine because they’re misinformed, or is that disinformed. Wait, ‘malinformed” — I’m caught up now.
There’s something missing in people thinking about fraught situations: consequential, complex, complicated, uncertain. They look to think every situation easy, obvious, and singular.
Along with the bad outcomes, “thinking” this way makes them marks. Sad.
… plus, they may call an audible while you’re out.
About 6 years ago I emerged four and a half hours later from a half hour procedure so “routine” my phone was blown up from my scheduled after-cut lunch asking where the hell I was.
Not a cork-up in the procedure; fixing something they found. Worked out ridiculously well. Doesn’t mean the next 6-10 weeks were any fun.
I need one of each and I am opting for the pain I know versus the pain I don’t want to know.
After her first, my wife waited on the second until she was sure that the current pain had exceeded the expected future pain.
You mean the Lopitoffofme procedure actually makes an owie that hurts? Who knew?!?!?
Lorena Bobbitt: a woman ahead of her time.
John Bobbitt: a stunning and brave trans-woman ahead of HER time.
In a compassionate world, these tragic, mentally ill people would be incarcerated in a hospital for treatment.
In clown world, it’s an absolute enigma inside a riddle that genital self-mutilation has painful consequnces.
While I generally believe that consenting adults ought to be able to get whatever cosmetic surgery they wish, I have qualms about “gender-affirming” surgery. I think the medical establishment is making a lot of money selling this surgery to trouble people on the basis that it will solve their problems. All too often it does nothing of the sort and it strikes me as fraud.
I feel like it’s just another form Body integrity identity disorder. Some mentally ill but otherwise perfectly healthy people want one of their limbs removed. They are convinced one of their legs or arms is alien to the rest of their body and shouldn’t be there. This condition is fully understood by the mental health professions to be akin to Alzheimer’s and schizophrenia.
But cut off your penis and call yourself Mary? Hell, right this way you brave and inspiring woman!
But where does it stop? Should someone with Body Integrity Identity Disorder be allowed to get surgery to make them an amputee, or blind or a paraplegic? What happened to “First, do no harm?”
The mental disconnect among “health” practitioners is best exhibited by this cartoon.
I’m so old, I remember when every doctor he asked REFUSED to remove a healthy spleen from Evel Knievel — he wanted it removed “prophylactically” before a dangerous daredevil jump. Absolutely NOBODY criticized the doctors for refusing.
A Canadian study examined 80 men who had the “bottom surgery” to transition to “women” at one clinic, complained of pain, and required medical care years after surgery.
A raised hand from all those who saw this coming without a “study” being necessary? Yes, I see you Horseshack.
Claiming man-made is superior to natural is a shocking reversal of all things progressive.
Actually, not really. Because progressivism both believes in “natural” in so many things, and transhumanism where people are concerned. “Transgender” is just a portion of transhumanism, the idea of transcending biological limitations through drugs, surgery, and mechanical enhancement (and, evidently, sheer willpower, too).
Lack of God in our society and our lives
Yes, religion (i.e. behavioral protocol): morality in a universal frame, ethics its relativistic sibling, and law their politically consensual cousin.
Throw another Jew… baby on the barbie.
Once and for all: THEY ARE NOT WOMEN. A woman is an adult human female. These are adult males, full stop. Thus, “trans-women” is a misnomer falsely describing a creature which simply does not exist.
Agree 1000^
STOP calling them women!!!!!
Look, it’s a descriptive term that succinctly describes the situation, whether you agree with the political bs behind it or not.
Just calling them “adult males” is uninformative.
“Mutilated adult males” adequately conveys the situation.
We’ve all seen pictures of celebrities with botched plastic surgery on their faces. I can just imagine what many of sex change surgeries must look like.
(Holy crap. I saw a photo of Tori Spelling on DW a couple days ago and I was terrified. She looked like a caricature of Angelica Huston’s version of Morticia Addams.)
Yeah, and the was the more comely part.
WTF DID SHE DO TO HER FACE?
She is a trans 30 year old. Doesn’t look as good as she most likely would have with out the plastic surgery.
Sounds like an issue the Secretary of Transportation could head up
…if he isn’t taking any PTO
The Road Less Travelled?
The science of Levine et al’s personal affirmation.
Devout Christians believe the Old Testament days are over with the birth of Christ.
I’m not as sure.
Others think we’re listening to All Revelations, All The Time!
Problem is, of course, that in spite of all the evidence, these people are living in a fantasy where the surgery really, really, makes them a happy member of the preferred sex, and as with most fantasies, an encounter with reality can be brutal.
Most of these folks have multiple personalities now known as Dissociative Identity Disorder. As a result of trauma usually as young or very young children.
EMDR helps. Therapy helps such a person fuse most of the personalities. Usually the younger personalities will want to “join” the older ones.
http://www.MaleSurvivor.org has resources to help. It wasn’t your fault; you can get better.
“Fractured mind” by Robert Oxnam discusses it.
There’s a book for a very simple and helpful introduction, the name of which eludes me. I’ll post it tomorrow.
Also, Richard Gartner’s book is very good: “Beyond Betrayal: Healing from Boyhood Sexual Abuse.” The name is something like that.
So, I don’t think anyone should have any sex surgery until he’s at least 40 and has undergone at least five TYPES of therapy. You don’t know what works for YOU until you try the different types, although EMDR seems to help everyone, particularly if he paces it. Can’t do too much too fast, because it is intense.
We are told by progressives that Canada is a health care paradise!
Rhetorical question: Why would some poor Canadian snowflake have to travel all the way to Thailand or India for such an important and life-changing surgery????
When is the so-called “trans” phenomenon going to be appropriately diagnosed as a mental illness manifesting itself in a transparently malignant and pathological narcissism?
These idiots should be paying out-of-pocket for every single GANS (Gender-appropriating Narcissist Sociopath) operation and treatment. It’s absurd that health insurance covers this nonsense. Blue Cross/Shield does.
Medically non-necessary, elective surgery and hormone treatments that clearly damage the body, mind and spirit, should not be covered by health insurance. It’s absurd that other insureds are paying for this malignant narcissism and the expensive medical treatments that enable these delusions.
Play with fire your going to get burned
Article at American Thinker about a week ago put these Trannie surgery in 2017 was over 1,000 in the year, would doubt that number per year is growing.
Fell sorry somewhat these people are mentally ill and instead of anyone helping they play along with that illness and make their situation worse.
If you’re experiencing pain after getting your dick cut off, that’s your body telling you you shouldn’t have cut off your dick.
And for men who cut their dicks off and you are experiencing “vaginal stenosis” that’s called “your body is healing”. Your body will always tell you the truth no matter how much you want it to lie on your behalf.
Mengele, eat your heart out.
Dr. Moreau
Okay, the helpful primer on multiple personalities is:
United We Stand, A Book for People with Multiple Personalities
By Eliana Gil
Wish I had read it first. Instead it was the last book I read on it.
For the same reason that your keys are always in the last place you look.
Because once you find them, why keep looking?
Mental illness, followed by self mutilation, facilitated by a perversion within our medical establishment.
Progress!
The fact that the Biden administration hired a trans-sexual to be Surgeon General demonstrates how perverse and explicitly evil his Party and his handlers are.
Transsexual mutilation is now a social trend, thanks to its freakish and ardent promoters who have managed in a few short years to convince the gullible and alienated that it is possible to change sex, resulting in an explosion of people, especially adolescents, declaring themselves to be trans-sexual, with many ruining themselves with surgery and hormones. As a narcissistic dramatic gesture, it’s the next best thing to suicide and almost as irreversible.
The real evil is the cabal of ideologues and mad, greedy doctors bent on going beyond normalizing what used to be a rare condition, making the trans-sexual ideal a political cause. One gets to become a member of an officially persecuted minority merely by declaring oneself to be the opposite sex and cross-dressing. I suppose only the affluent or well-insured can go all-in with surgery and hormones, and those transvestite men without the resources or conviction to go all in must be satisfied with barging into previously all-woman spaces with penis and testicles intact. Women have not needed to pose as men to gain access to all-male spaces for years thanks to feminism, the pioneering academic “discipline” that paved the way ideologically for the trans liberation movement.
“Gender” is a fiction when applied to human beings.
If we don’t reverse the trend, the above comments will be a criminal offense and I could be prosecuted for “hate speech.” The trans/gay lobby is the greatest threat to free speech ever. Current House legislation is attempting to make it so.
In most languages, there are 3 genders: masculine, feminine, and neuter.
In biology, when you remove the masculine or feminine organs, you get a neuter.
“He”, “She” and “It” are the only reality based nominative case pronouns.