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Researchers at Boston U. Supposedly Claim They Developed a COVID Strain With ‘80% Kill Rate’

Researchers at Boston U. Supposedly Claim They Developed a COVID Strain With ‘80% Kill Rate’

One expert said: “Given the strong likelihood that the Covid pandemic originated from the escape of a lab-manipulated coronavirus in Wuhan, these experiments seem profoundly unwise.”

Have we learned nothing like ever?

Researchers at Boston University decided to combine the original COVID and Omicron strains in mice.

The new strain “killed 80% of the mice infected with it.” From The Daily Mail:

In the new research, which has not been peer-reviewed, a team of researchers from Boston and Florida extracted Omicron’s spike protein — the unique structure that binds to and invades human cells.

It has always been present in the virus but has become more evolved over time. Omicron has dozens of mutations on its spike protein that made it so infectious.

Researchers attached Omicron’s spike to the original wildtype strain that first emerged in Wuhan at the start of the pandemic.

The researchers looked at how mice fared against the new hybrid strain compared to the original Omicron variant.

When a similar group of rodents were exposed to the standard Omicron strain, however, they all survived and only experienced ‘mild’ symptoms.

Writing in the paper, they said: ‘In…mice, while Omicron causes mild, non-fatal infection, the Omicron S-carrying virus inflicts severe disease with a mortality rate of 80 percent.’

The researchers said it signaled that while the spike protein is responsible for infectivity, changes to other parts of its structure determine its deadliness.

Experts slammed the researchers, even mentioning it’s “an example of gain of function research.” Gain of function research is typically not allowed in America:

[Rutgers University chemist] Dr [Richard] Ebright told DailyMail.com: ‘The research is a clear example of gain of function research of concern and enhanced potential pandemic pathogen (ePPP) research.

‘It is especially concerning that this new US-government ePPP research – like the previous US-government ePPP research on chimeric SARS-related coronaviruses at Wuhan Institute of Virology that may have caused the pandemic – appears not to have undergone the prior risk-benefit review mandated under US-government policies.

‘If we are to avoid a next lab-generated pandemic, it is imperative that oversight of ePPP research be strengthened.

‘It is imperative that the existing polices [sic] mandating prior risk-benefit assessment of ePPP research be followed, and it is imperative that officials at US-government agencies who repeatedly have placed the public at risk by repeatedly violating the existing policies be held accountable.’

Prof David Livermore, a professor of microbiology at the UK’s University of East Anglia told DailyMail.com: ‘given the strong likelihood that the Covid pandemic originated from the escape of a lab-manipulated coronavirus in Wuhan, these experiments seem profoundly unwise.’

Gain of function research is a touchy subject since it’s “when viruses are purposefully manipulated to be more infectious or deadly.”

We’ve heard a lot about it during Senate hearings when Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) questioned Dr. Anthony Fauci, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases director, which is part of the National Institutes of Health.

Fauci did not like it when Paul reminded everyone that taxpayer money funded the Wuhan Institute of Virology, where many believe Chinese scientists engineered COVID-19.

The NIH admitted to funding gain of function research on bat coronaviruses at the Wuhan institute.

It turns out gain of function research has been “largely restricted” in America until 2017. Officials stopped the research “from 2014 to 2017 over concerns that it could lead to the inadvertent creation of a pandemic.”

 

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Comments

Close The Fed | October 17, 2022 at 7:09 pm

They’re not doing this to prepare for such a thing. They’re doing this hoping it will escape so there will be fewer human beings.

I swear, the establishment is full of satanists!

Yeah, BU is where AOC graduated from.

Think of the implications.

Stupid!!!

    txvet2 in reply to starride. | October 17, 2022 at 7:43 pm

    Arrogant, misguided, insane, evil, but they aren’t stupid, they’re fanatics.

    Concise in reply to starride. | October 17, 2022 at 8:26 pm

    Personally, I like a good post-apocalyptic movie. Just don’t want to live it.

    MattMusson in reply to starride. | October 18, 2022 at 8:52 am

    The Regents at Boston University needs to call in these Scientists and demand an explanation.
    And, after the meeting, they need to be given the boxed-up contents of their desks and escorted off the campus.

      Boxes? No. Every single item they have touched including their clothes needs to be incinerated. Every computer, every file, every bit of office equipment, each sample, all notes, scraps of paper, down to the last bit. Then the naked scientists need to be sealed up in an isolation chamber for a full year to make sure they’re not carriers, and only released after a series of extensive tests.

      Gotta be safe, after all.

      CaptTee in reply to MattMusson. | October 19, 2022 at 9:48 pm

      Escorted to the Hague for a trial for crimes against humanity.

Well, to those of us living in reality this all sure seems evil.

If it doesn’t have an ebola component it’s not going to work as well as they hope.

Next month… going for 100%. Why not go all in with a Marberg/Small Pox/Ebola trifecta? Frankly, this isn’t how one burnishes a reputation after the WuFlu.

Hubris in our credentialed class is working overtime.

If you read the paper carefully, the headline is not what it is cracked up to be. They tested Omicron and Omi-S (the hybrid) against 10 mice each, and Wuhan Type against 6 mice. All the mice survived Omicron, 2 survived Omi-S, and 0 survived WT. Also, they euthanized the mice when their body weight dropped 20%, so there is no way to know if any of the mice could have recovered. Because they used a smaller sample of mice for WT, there is no way to know how bad the hybrid is compared to WT, but it seems to be similar. A good conclusion is the hybrid is similar in pathogenicity to WT, but more contagious. It is interesting research that shows that the spike isn’t everything in these viruses, but it does not tell you how bad Omi-S will be when it is released into Boston.

    healthguyfsu in reply to The_Mew_Cat. | October 17, 2022 at 8:29 pm

    I’m upvoting this simply because you read details rather than running with whatever flavor of the week a prevailing group of loudmouth posters chooses to run around with.

    Dimsdale in reply to The_Mew_Cat. | October 18, 2022 at 8:27 am

    The question is: why are they doing gain of function research at all?

    I am sure they are more careful/sterile than the ChiComs, but accidents happen.

      Close The Fed in reply to Dimsdale. | October 18, 2022 at 9:39 am

      Yes, accidents happen. And YES, crimes happen also.

      After benefitting so richly from the China flue, it must be excruciatingly hard to resist releasing a more potent killer into America.

    CommoChief in reply to The_Mew_Cat. | October 18, 2022 at 11:42 am

    The spliced Omi into the original then delivered that combo product into mice. That is gain of function. There’s a reason it’s a bad idea. We almost certainly saw that in Rona. The easiest explanation is a leak. That leak was almost certainly due to some goober breaking protocols and not intentional; which doesn’t doesn’t mean from that point the Chinese didn’t go rouge, they did.

    Gain of function has a bad reputation because it is dangerous. In fact it is prohibited in the US. Every person participating should be exiled from the research community just like a rogue stockbroker is bared from the financial services industry. After any applicable jail time and enough fines to force liquidation of all assets.

Subotai Bahadur | October 17, 2022 at 8:47 pm

Does this sound like it might be a government funded excuse to maybe suspend or delay the elections if there is a fear that it got out?

Subotai Bahadur

    The_Mew_Cat in reply to Subotai Bahadur. | October 17, 2022 at 9:20 pm

    Not bad enough. That is what the Ukraine war is for – it will go nuclear soon. Both Biden and Putin are desperate and getting more so by the day. The nukes will be used very soon.

So if Hillsdale College accepts one student using GI Bill money, they become subject to the full force of federal regulation…
but when Boston College performs gain of function research inside the United States…

Kill them with fire-you know, like spiders! 😮

It’s very scary

I am not afraid of Covid anymore, haven’t been for nearly 2 years

But I have always been afraid of what they were going to do to us next

This next or worse

    The_Mew_Cat in reply to gonzotx. | October 17, 2022 at 9:17 pm

    The Election Hail Mary is nuclear war in Ukraine as a pretext for Martial Law. Far worse than any coronavirus.

What the hell is the matter with these people?

Can anyone answer this: WHY are they doing this????????

    BierceAmbrose in reply to TheFineReport.com. | October 18, 2022 at 3:22 pm

    This. This right here. For frack’s sake, people, just don’t do that. Can we declare a winner in the “Didn’t learn a damn thing.” sweepstakes, here?

    I’m so old, I remember quarantines after the first human space flights, because we didn’t know what might come back with them. Jeebus H unpredictable on a dice-roll: they’re doing these exercises *because they want to see what will happen.* Which means they don’t know.

    Here’s a plan…
    You wanna play genetic Frankenstein? OK, the experiments go in an automated orbital facility. Materials go in; only information comes out. No bug-recovery. Supply runs by disposable space drones, thrown into the sun after use.

    You wanna play with pathogens? OK. Splice 0 with volcanic vent bacteria so they breathe sulfur. Make our air poison to them, thank you very much.

    You wanna play with something bigger? Fine. Silk worms, koalas, panda bears. I’ll entertain other, candidates so specialized they have no excuse for still being alive.

    Also, no playing with anthrax, waterbears, or octopi. No, you can’t cross-breed with anything resilient, or clever, or god-help-us both.

    And finally, these protocols? Unlike the last time, this time we mean it. You wanna play with gene-splicing pathogens? Anything goes wrong, you get to live out your life in space with your creations. Nobody decides, adjudicates, or even investigates. Something went sideways, you’re on the next Crew Dragon to Space Hotel California with your creations.

      healthguyfsu in reply to BierceAmbrose. | October 18, 2022 at 9:01 pm

      I’ll say this clear as day.

      If our freedom-suspending government can use the health risk of others to justify vaccine mandates, then they should not also have the right to authorize much less fund such ridiculously risky domestic research that represents a significant hazard to the health of their own citizens.

Damn, even LI headlines with the “80% kill rate” nonsense. Irresponsible!
The 80% “kill rate” of the (newly) engineered SARS-CoV-2 virus is in mice. When mice contracted the original (“wild”) strain of SARS-CoV-2, the IFR was 100%. The “new” lab-made variant is less lethal than the original!

I am not defending the lab’s work. I am criticizing every media outlet that emphasized the “80% kill rate” without context. Unnecessary fear porn. Haven’t we had enough of that?

What is the point of intentionally creating a deadly virus for which there is no cure?

This is useful, FINALLY there’s a way to make the Covid/WuFlu deniers shut up once and for all.

Can we trust that Boston University is not in bed with the depopulationists of the world? Will they use it to achieve the world elite’s goal of reducing the peasant population of non producers, so only producers will be able to support the world elites?

If you want some kind of technical analysis.. this guy is an independent researcher.. Here..

https://ianmartiszus.substack.com/p/about-those-gainz-of-function?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=auto_share&r=cv9dg

    retiredcantbefired in reply to amwick. | October 19, 2022 at 2:50 pm

    Good article, but I don’t see the moral dilemma that the author sees.

    If the US government carries out or funds gain of function research on viruses, bad things will happen.

While the spike protein in its progressive mutations increases infections in s-protein-keyed treatments, pathogenic attributes exhibit stronger correlations with other features of the virus(es).

How easy to steal their sampling by terrorism, and terrorists can come in all shapes.
I always liked the movie Omega Man with Carleton Heston

The rationale for this research, as it was at the Wuhan Institute, is that its possible for these viruses to mutate naturally and become infectious among humans. So, do it in a lab first and make vaccines.

BUT, viruses mutate constantly and any virus you make is obsolete before you can even bring it to market. This fact just completely obliterates the entire rationale for the research.

What’s left is the enormous risk of these deliberately altered, “gain of function”, deadly viruses that are now highly contagious among humans leaking out of the lab and killing millions world wide. Which is precisely what happened with Covid 19.

I remember the old “atomic age” horror/sci-fi movies where the hero,and heroine, having just barely made it, stare off into the distance. The last line? “Perhaps there are some things that science should leave alone.”

This is nuckin futz.