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MSNBC Guest On Trump Supporters: “We are at war with these people”

MSNBC Guest On Trump Supporters: “We are at war with these people”

Former CNN regular Roland Martin: “This evil is spreading. And when you are in a war footing, you have to respond accordingly. It is about time Joe Biden got tough. Stop being weak, stop being impotent, quit not fighting back.”

Joe “I am the Democratic Party” Biden gave the most shocking, divisive, hateful, and mendacious speech I have ever heard, and while he’s trying to walk back his attack on the American people who do not support him, it’s clear that he considers anyone not with him, not just against his policies, but against America. This is a dangerous path to walk, but the left seems intent on plowing down it like it’s never been done before.

While some people not of the right are asking questions like “Is Biden trying to criminalize Trumpism?,” many on the left are excited to think about the “wartime” speech Biden gave that condemns the tens of millions of American people who voted for his opponent in the last election.

Indeed, Roland Martin, former CNN regular, appeared as a guest on MSNBC and confidently declared that “We are at war with these people.”

Fox News reports:

Appearing on MSNBC’s “The Cross Connection” Saturday, liberal internet news host Roland Martin declared that Republicans are “evil” and Democrats, like himself, are “at war” with them.

. . . . MSNBC host Tiffany Cross inspired Martin’s Saturday screed with a clip from Biden’s speech in which the president decried, without naming specific names, those Republican “public figures” that are “predicting and all but calling for mass violence and rioting in the streets” in outrage over the FBI raid of Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence last month.

Biden’s charge seemed directed at Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., who recently observed that there “will be riots in the street” if Trump is indicted by the Justice Department.

After playing the clip of Biden, Cross specifically insisted on calling out “mainstream Republicans,” not just “MAGA Republicans,” for echoing calls to violence. She stated, “I think that’s such a crucial point: [Trump’s] followers – Republican – mainstream, establishment Republicans are echoing these calls for violence – all but threatening it.”

. . . . He then got very serious for his next point. “Pastor Charles Jenkins has an intro to his song, ‘War,’ where he says, ‘When the enemy is coming at you, you can’t fall down, you can’t break down. This means war,’” he said, adding, “That is where we are. We are at war with these people.”

He then condemned all Republicans, declaring, “These folks are evil. They have allowed evil into their house with Donald Trump.”

. . . . “He has now dominated the party,” Martin continued, adding, “this evil is spreading and when you are in a war footing you have to respond accordingly.”

He demanded that the Biden administration do something about these Republicans. “It’s about time President Biden decided to get tough. It’s about time his advisers stop being weak and stop being impotent and not fighting back.”

. . . . Martin then smeared the GOP again. “What these people want to do to this country is destroy democracy, they want to rig elections,” he claimed, and prescribed that the Democratic Party “stand strong” against them.

“You don’t walk comments back, you don’t wilt under the pressure,” Martin argued, noting that, “Republicans and conservatives, they are weak.”

And he’s not alone in his radical push to declare war on the entire right—not just Republicans, but also conservatives—in this country.

This sort of talk from the left is dangerous, and it’s not only politicians and random internet hosts; it’s also “influencers” on social media.

The responses were as you’d expect, and according to Twitchy, the most popular one has now been “hidden” by its author. Twitchy has the screenshot, though, and here it is:

But the right are the dangerous violent ones provoking a civil war? They are practically begging for violence, either from the right or from the left against the right. Either way, the administration will use it as justification for a whole host of horrors. As Professor Jacobson says, don’t fall into their trap. Don’t give them what they are clearly and desperately longing for. Make them show their true—blood red and black bloc—colors.


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Translation: In the hour of our triumph, we’re going to lose — and I CAN’T HANDLE IT!!!!!!

If we’re at war then I invite you, come at me. I will not leave my family exposed as I know I face an honorless foe, so you’ll have to come to me and don’t expect any quarter.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | September 3, 2022 at 7:59 pm

Leftists declared war on America many years ago. It was never a secret that leftists hate America and everything America stands for.

Colonel Travis | September 3, 2022 at 8:01 pm

OK, you’re at war with us.
What happens next?

    It’s their move. They are panicking because they keep losing ground on all fronts. Everything they have tried lately has backfired. Every time someone like this guy comes out and spouts this kind of garbage, their base shrinks. They are creeping out their own voters.

    Think about it. Twitter and now Facebook have been exposed to being nothing more than a government-directed proxy to spew propaganda. Twitter needs an army of bots to even appear like they are an arena for public debate. Advertisers will surely be suing to get their money back soon. And that is true across the tech media.

    Late night TV. Gutfeld appears out of nowhere and quickly dominates by hammering away at their wokeness non-stop. How scary is that for them?

    Movie theaters. Despite all of the new releases since “Top Gun” and “Spiderman” blew away the competition on release, it’s Labor Day weekend they are still dominating at the box office. “My Son Hunter” just had a secret screening for a Hollywood insider audience and received a standing ovation. So it’s not so much that “conservatives” are coming out of the woodwork but that they are waking up to the insanity within their world and want to hang with grown ups again. But I expect more and more of them will soon join the growing few to come out in the open.

    Disney and Netflix stock prices got clobbered for their wokeness and Netflix is cleaning house. So is CNN. Those who are not cleaning house are getting their clocks cleaned like never before. The walls are caving in, the house of cards is collapsing. It’s as if they are losing a war and their cities are getting bombed.

    Truth Social. Growing exponentially (if not geometrically). And lots of the Twitter woke crowd is migrating over rather than fight with bots. No censorship at Truth Social.

    CRT is now getting smoked as parents have decided to retake control of school committees across the country. That sure didn’t take long.

    So despite the woke left “controling” everything find themselves helpless to stop the red tide heading their way. Their boat is leaking like a sieve, the crews abandoning ship and are at their wits end. Whistle blowers are coming out everywhere. Distrust is growing within their ranks. The tough talk is just another act of desperation. Only the nuts are listening to them. That is why we are being subjected to Dark Brandon declaring war on America. It’s a dangerous farce.

    If not winning, we are certainly on a roll. It’s not up to us to do anything but stand our ground and stand solid while we keep voicing our disdain for what they are doing with mockery. It’s working. We are getting to them and their heads are exploding.

    Two more months of this and then we have to worry about what the lame duck Uniparty will do on the way out. Are we headed for martial law? Are they really planning to do that? Are our government institutions so corrupted right down to the core that no one will hold their ground and dare to not follow unlawful orders? Will our military really start shooting America citizens? We may soon find out and their is nothing we can do about it. We’ll burn that bridge when we get to it.

    Personally, I am spending this weekend taking inventory of my survival supplies and preparing to hunker down in case things really do go nuts. Let’s hope I’m ready.

      I need a gun and lots of amp

      PPhil, I don’t remember where I read it – here? – there is even blow back out of the LGBQ crowd against the T’s … what I most remember was an L saying she was sick to death of a T telling her she wasn’t a real L because she wouldn’t date a T-female. There’s a push to “get the T out” of LGBTQ … I’m encouraged that they’re fighting among themselves …

        That’s been out for a while. It’s a bigger deal in Europe apparently than here. But these people are more about tactics than strategy. They are hurting everyone including their own people. They don’t seem to plan ahead more than one step at a time. It’s all about dividing everyone against each other and it is rippling through their own ranks too. No one is safe. That is why communist takeovers are (as Bernie Sanders explained and defended) are immediately followed by bloody, violent purges. After they wreck everything, they consolidate which always requires killing off the most pissed-off people first, the useful fools.

        I am holding out faith in individuals that still populate our institutions to step up and hold their ground. I find it hard to believe that we Americans have grown so soft and ignorant that patriots are nowhere to be found. We all need to have the courage to at least stand our ground and if we are in a position to do something that will make a difference, like refuse to follow orders, do it. We will swallow them up as they fall apart. We need to be thinking “Caine Mutiny” here, not “Mutiny on the Bounty”. Dark Brandon and his cohorts keep staging “strawberry incidents” every time they talk. They are losing control of their own ranks.

        The Gentle Grizzly in reply to MrE. | September 4, 2022 at 7:53 am

        Let me step in with an observation, as I am the resident “G”. You’ll be disappointed, but, no. We are not fighting amongst ourselves any more than normally happens.

        VERY few LGBQ ever wanted the Ts lumped in with us. None of the LGBQ I know of want to mutilate their genitalia and take hormone shots. I have no idea who lumped the Ts in with us, but we didn’t exactly welcome them.

          Dave Chappelle has a hilarious bit about this topic. The LGB are driving together in a car and pick up hitchhikers who just want to ride in the same vehicle.

    87,000 IRS agents coming for us.

      Thanks to Joe Manchin. I guess he has decided to retire at the end of this term. John Cornyn apparently made the same decision before he backed gun control for Mitch McConnell.

      Then again there are lots and lots of stupid people who can vote.

    What’s next?

    If the last 100 or so years of history is any indication, Antifa will step up their harassment, intimidation, and violence directed at Trump supporters

    I expect to see increasing Antifa violence leading up to the midterms and beyond, into 2024.

    Brandon and his propaganda apparatus — NYT/WaPo/CNN/MS-NBC/CBS/ABC/Politico/Dispatch/Bulwark/etc — will try to ignore it and/or dismiss it as an understandable reaction to dangerous fascist forces threatening ‘our precious democracy’ (see what you made them do!). Twitter and Facebook will ban anyone who tries to expose it for what it is. And so on and so forth.

    Eventually there may be a response from the right. And then all bets are off about what happens next.

    The Regime has been purging the military, FBI, DOJ, etc, of anyone suspected of not being loyal to the Regime, while adding 87,000 new loyal armed IRS agents, for a reason. If Trump is the GOP candidate in 2024 there may not be an election. Or there may no longer be a living breathing Trump. The Regime will not allow the American people to elect him again.

    Brandon’s Nuremberg Rally speech was a call to arms. Though everyone on the left will deny it, they got the message

    He is obviously morbidly obese and in no condition to serve in whatever war he tries to foment. Typical.

    MrPeabody in reply to Colonel Travis. | September 4, 2022 at 1:23 pm

    “What happens next?”

    Well, do you think a pathetic, worthless fuck like Roland Martin would get off his fat, lazy ass and fight? Hell no! He’s not talking about himself, he’s talking about others doing the work.

    They would hire illegals to do the work they don’t want to do.

Sounded to me on his speech before Thursday’s he declared war, and Thursday upped it.
November we will see if it’s gets hot.

Roland Martin was so much more funny on Laugh In

If only we could put bastards like him in a time machine and send them back to the mid-late 19th century wild west to mouth off there.

Subotai Bahadur | September 3, 2022 at 8:26 pm

To the Left:

1) We take you at your word, that you are at war with us.
2) From the nature of the declaration by Biden, we are not protected by the Constitution. So Be It.
3) Guess what? When things start, you will not be protected either. Just as your side by your actions have been willing to show no quarter to women, children, and non-combatants, you will be shown no quarter.
4) If at the conclusion you win, we expect tyranny and death to be our lot. It is what the Democrats and their masters on the Left have been planning all along.
5) If at the conclusion, freedom triumphs, you will undoubtedly expect and demand to be treated as equals as under the old Constitution. Ain’t gonna happen. The Constitution is our Social and Political Contract. You might want to read the works of Thomas Hobbes. The founding fathers did.

Since the Democrats and the Left have shown that they are willing and able to subvert the Constitution, we will most likely revert to an older document,

“That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.”

Whatever results will probably have safeguards against you.

Subotai Bahadur

    Good grief. Don’t encourage them to read Hobbes. ‘Leviathan’ supports the sort of overwhelming and unanswerable autocracy which is exactly what they think they want. An all-powerful ‘sovereign’, no separation of powers, a rubber stamp parliament at best…

    “I authorise and give up my right of governing myself to this man, or to this assembly of men, on this condition; that thou give up, thy right to him, and authorise all his actions in like manner.”

    Now Rousseau, Locke, Paine – those they need to read and understand for they informed the thoughts and actions of our founders.

      amatuerwrangler in reply to Gosport. | September 4, 2022 at 9:29 am

      I seriously doubt many, if any, of those folk would get beyond the first couple of paragraphs of “Leviathan” unless they find it in an old “classic comics” version. Too many hard words and long sentences.

      When Hobbes is suggested they immediately think of the comic strip.

    scooterjay in reply to Subotai Bahadur. | September 3, 2022 at 9:41 pm

    I’ve gotten into trouble here for mentioning the 2A.
    We need it for self-defense. It is clear tyranny is upon us.

Char Char Binks | September 3, 2022 at 8:38 pm

Roland Martin is literally retarded.

    Nonetheless, he’s looking for your blood.

    Why are the “spokespersons” of the left predominately fat & ugly?
    An honest question. Hardly any of them seem fit to defend themselves from a titmouse.

      The Gentle Grizzly in reply to WISteve. | September 4, 2022 at 7:29 am

      Watch for another leftist characteristic: anger. I notice this when I go to Asheville for my Trader Joe’s run. Angry facial expressions on the faces of so many over there. Then you see them climb into their Prius or Forester festooned with all of the popular leftist slogans or candidate stickers.

        amatuerwrangler in reply to The Gentle Grizzly. | September 4, 2022 at 9:33 am

        Hey! Go easy on the Forester, pardner.


          The Gentle Grizzly in reply to amatuerwrangler. | September 4, 2022 at 10:02 am

          I’m seriously considering a Subaru…

          amatuerwrangler in reply to amatuerwrangler. | September 4, 2022 at 12:13 pm

          Mrs Wrangler woud have nothing else. She is babying this one after she was told they were going to discontinue the manual transmission [I felt it necessary to spell that out, given the direction this thread has turned].

          The Outback– different story. 🙂

          The only question in Alaska about buying a car is “what color did you choose for the Subaru?”

          TGG…. so you must pass close by to where I used to live… Mars Hill. Asheville has gotten so woke…. I guess it first started with retirees settling in Hendersonville.

          Reply to Alaskabob

          Pretty soon the question will be, “How many sled dogs to you have for your rig?”

          The Gentle Grizzly in reply to amatuerwrangler. | September 5, 2022 at 7:00 am

          To Alaskabob: Mars Hill as a Waffle House, and it is usually a breakfast stop on the way to TJ’s.

          Since you moved away, Ala’s Kabob restaurant is closed, darn it.

        Asheville? I thought you were a west coaster. Lefties adopt a look of constant anger and frustration. This is what sustains them especially if people are watching them.

        I was just down there a few weeks ago. I really enjoyed Chimney Rock and the beers at Highland Brewery. It’s a beautiful area of the country.

Martin looks, and sounds, like Stelter in blackface.

May he suffer the same fate for his foolishness.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Dimsdale. | September 4, 2022 at 7:56 am

    When he does, he will scream “racism!” at the top of his lungs. But, I say, let him. If those in charge learn to ignore these cries instead of knuckling under, that nonsense will stop.

Some people have been trying for quite a while to talk us into Civil War 2. When they succeed, they’ll be the first ones to scream that it’s someone else’s fault.

The reason I will not wear a MAGA hat or put a bumper sticker on my car is the people that do not think like me are batshit crazy. I value my life and property too much to become an easy target. They would not come at me head-on either – sneak attacks are more their style. God help us get through this if it is even possible at this point.

So, should I now be afraid?

Did he get that blouse from Melania’s wardrobe?

The amazing part is the same morons said that Trump was going to do everything their hero Biden has done and they’re so blind to the fact their Mass hysteria keeps them from seeing that

Good. We’re at war. It’s time for people on the right to start playing the game. Fuck the left. They want to hurt you for no other reason than you disagree with their dogma. And make no mistake, theirs is a religious dogma.

Live and let live is no longer an option. Wanting to be left alone isn’t either.

What these people don’t understand is I used to fly in geriatric naval aircraft. I used to shoot geriatric Garands. And M14s. Shakedly old .45s. The kind of .45 when you shook it you didn’t know which direction the barrel was pointng. First prize is a snow cone to whomever can name the Sean Connery movie that outed 007 as a British spy.

You have to collect in person.

    Gosport in reply to Arminius. | September 3, 2022 at 10:18 pm

    The first M-1911 .45 I shot qual with had almost 1/4 inch of play between the slide and the receiver and was date stamped 1942. It was some 30+ years and three wars old.

    I can now afford a tuned national match version. I love capitalism, compound interest, and time.

That buffoon has chosen to side with those advocating children’s freedom of choice to undergo irreversible deformative surgery,..

…the encouraging of parents to let their six year olds twerk with cross-dressers,…

…and a widespread effort to promote envy, victimhood, sick pride in believing one is somehow “oppressed”, and hatred of others in general – all in the name of their depraved version of “tolerance.”

And that’s naming just a few of the aims of the degenerate left.

Are we at war with idiots like Martin, who sides with those who promote the above? You’re damn right, we are. We’re battling for the mental and moral health of today’s young people and that of future generations,

Don’t give them what they are clearly and desperately longing for. Make them show their true—blood red and black bloc—colors

This “don’t ever fight back” bollocks reminds me of the video from a San Francisco street protest some years ago where a normal man stood in front of a line of armed and armed riot cops and shouted “why are you not doing anything about this?” while the noodle-armed Yvette Felarca rained ineffectual body blows on him,

We are at war, and you want us to stand down so we don’t risk making the government, the Democrat Party and its brownshirts, that publicly declared us enemies of the Republic, any angrier than they already are?

What was Richard Gere’s line from Red Corner – “what are you going to do, shoot me twice?”

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to daniel_ream. | September 4, 2022 at 7:35 am

    Don’t give them what they are clearly and desperately longing for. Make them show their true—blood red and black bloc—colors

    Another way of saying “Isadore, don’t make trouble! Just get into the truck like the nice man with the bayonet says to!”

      We are far from that, Grizz, very far. No one is going to be herded into trucks or onto trains. That is just fact. So what are they going to do? Shoot us? Yeah, no.

      This is not Nazi Germany, and these lunatics are increasingly reviled across the political spectrum.

      Let them flounder and misfire. It’s funny.

        The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | September 4, 2022 at 8:34 pm

        The nation that gave the world Mozart, Beethoven, Einstein and Bohr turned bad very fast.

        So, how about the nation that gave the world Fauci, Biden, the Kardashians, and Taylor Swift?

        We are not the nation we were.

        healthguyfsu in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | September 4, 2022 at 9:32 pm

        This is a really bad approach to take. I’m not saying that the Nazi doomsday is upon us or anything, but acting like “This can’t happen here” is a really foolish M.O.

        Take a spin around twitter and see what many, many vile people will say and support in the name of their leftist death cult religion. Don’t think twitter is real people? Try the comment boards on NPR, Wapo, NYT, etc.

        Good luck reasoning with people like that.

          I hear you, and I understand what the base on the left wants. But the biggest problem for the radicals in the WH is the 10th Amendment. They can’t just go into states and start taking away citizens of those states.

          They learned during covid that they can’t rule the entire country even under the guise of a pandemic. Well, maybe they didn’t learn that, but everyone in free states sure did.

    CommoChief in reply to daniel_ream. | September 4, 2022 at 10:19 am


    Name calling isn’t war. Using the regulatory state and occasionally the legal system to punish political opponents isn’t war. Revealing themselves as extremist blowhards who seek to motivate their anarchist idiot allies isn’t war. Using cultural division and tribalism to induce resentment and create strife along ethnic lines isn’t war.

    All of those are objectively bad things but they are not war. We should more accurately construe them as indicators of a potential future conflict. These things are similar in nature to the pre revolutionary period; the beginning and middle stages of ‘a long train of abuses’ as our Founders stated in our Declaration of Independence.

    IMO, we should follow the example of our Founders by working to achieve victory through political means and exhausting the political process. Use reason and persuasion. Gain electoral and judicial victories to achieve our ultimate aims. Whatever you want to call this current period it is definitely not war.

    War should always be avoided until there is no other option. Then those who most stridently demanded a war should be conscripted to the front lines without any exemption. Let them form up and lead the first charge since they so ardently desired a war.

    To you and the other tough guys on this thread: what EXACTLY are you recommending? Two months until the election and four months until the new replacement are sworn in. “The Left” is determined to goad into doing something stupid so as to justify a military crackdown. And you are calling us to do….. what? Set our hair on fire and what else?

      Precisely, Phil. I do understand being angry and being concerned, even afraid, but I do not get these people claiming this crazy. What are they going to do? Who are they going to start shooting? It’s stupid. And it’s exactly what the left is hoping for, random lunatics they can hold up as examples of how the entire right is violent.

      We are not even close to exhausting our legal and constitutional options. I would, though, take heed of the current climate and start giving serious thought to relocating to red states. If they start anything crazy, it will be in blue states where they can run free without any pushback from local or state authorities. Not that I think they will. They want us to make the first move, they NEED us to make the first move. Let’s not.

        I have been planning on leaving CA for over two years, particularly to Prescott AZ, but real estate and rental prices went through the roof and then interest rates started climbing. I am very leery of moving somewhere currently run by McCain Republicans or to a Texas that looks so much like CA did ten years ago. CA was Reagan country when I moved here in 1989 and it was the Bush Republican Party that messed it up.

        At my age, I have one more move left in me and don’t want to make a mistake. I also don’t want to end up trapped in a property I can’t sell. I am prepared to pull up stakes and be gone from here in a moment’s notice if necessary and have places to go to. I am now also looking in Colorado.

        I don’t want to live the rest of my life thinking about politics everyday worried what the government is going to do. CA is a mess with what with never knowing what the “scientists” will do next to ruin our lives. I just want to be left alone!

          It’s odd that you’d be considering Colorado, given the fact that the state has already passed through purple on its way to blue. I’d strongly suggest looking at Tennessee. Beautiful scenery, no state income tax, nice people, bearable weather.

          You have to do what makes sense to you. I was kind of speaking more generally. Personally, I would not to live in a blue state, but that has nothing to do with Biden’s recent demonic address.

          @txvet: I started looking at Tennessee a few weeks ago. In CO, I could get away from the politics and be part of a small community. It is beautiful there. There are a bunch of us friends looking to do something together and one has a relative who owns one of the biggest ranches there. It has everything needed to survive should the worst happen. It is also defensible because of limited access points. He and his wife have been preparing the ranch for this for several years already. I hope that is more than a long shot opportunity.

          To me, the worst happening would mean the end of constitutional government which would render liberal vs conservative meaningless. It would be a “leave us alone” opportunity.

          Prescott AZ is a very conservative town. I would love to go back to live in a small town again. It is surrounded by a national forest and far enough away from big cities and their universities and politics to be a good refuge if I have to go it alone.

          If things go that far, there won’t be any “leave us alone” places left, because the PTB will never trust you to stay that way. We already found that out at Ruby Ridge and Waco, not to mention MAL. Retiring with a group of friends is always a good plan, though.

          The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Pasadena Phil. | September 4, 2022 at 8:36 pm

          to Txvet: and if he moves to NE TN, he has a human grizzly as a neighbor! That has to be worth something.

          /What, I don’t know…

          healthguyfsu in reply to Pasadena Phil. | September 4, 2022 at 9:40 pm

          BTW, I believe CO passed legislation recently to completely ignore the EC and cast their votes to whoever the popular vote goes to in Presidential elections.

          I would disqualify them on that move alone, even if it didn’t ultimately succeed.

          I believe CO passed legislation recently to completely ignore the EC and cast their votes to whoever the popular vote goes to in Presidential elections

          None of the states passed such legislation will actually do that if the “wrong” result would happen.

      healthguyfsu in reply to Pasadena Phil. | September 4, 2022 at 9:37 pm

      You are right, of course. Being smart and making prudent moves is the right way to go.

      At the same time, we can’t just turn the other cheek and pretend it didn’t happen either.

      We do need to push back, but it would be very helpful to have elected leaders doing so. PLEASE don’t take that olive branch and turn it into another “TRUMP OR NO ONE” online campaign.

      One of the prudent moves we have to take is going into this political fight with the troops we have that can win elections and sorting out the rest of it after power is wrested from the grip of these Obama-proxy lunatics that are running things. If that is Trump, great! If not, please don’t deny every objective measure that says otherwise because that is another way to lose as bad as 2020 in both branches.

        healthguy, you are stuck in your own echo chamber. You just hate Trump and are looking for even a small crack to have your “anyone but Trump” discussions. Do you play any real games? The “big red wave” only exists because Trump has been out there relentlessly fighting the GOPe in endorsing candidates to keep his followers engaged in the fight. It’s called “COATTAILS”! DeSantis is doing a great job but, ahem, he got his start because of being endorsed by, you got it, Trump. I know, blind spot with you. You have lots of those.

        So if you get your way by convincing us to sacrifice Trump in mid-battle, probably the last chance we have to prevail without a civil war, you believe DeSantis is the guy who will save us? NO YOU IDIOT!! We need DeSantis to be doing what he is doing and at his age, IF WE WIN, he gets to be president. How hard is that to understand? We are running out of time, we are already on Omaha Beach and you want to replace General Eisenhower or engage is a struggle at he top to replace the guy who has been doing 90% of the work at his own personal peril? What is wrong with you!!! Give it up! Don’t be such a dumb ass.

“We”? You got a mouse in your pocket or something, tough guy?

I wonder to what extent the widely publicized report on how much the Covid lockdowns have put kids behind in reading and math is adding to the anger of almost everybody against these losers?

The left wants civil war. Biden’s speech was their formal declaration.
Their propaganda outlets are confirming it.
Let us proceed. May God have mercy on their wretched souls.

    Whitewall in reply to SteveP. | September 4, 2022 at 9:58 am

    If such a wretched event does eventually happen, what should be the targets? The Left always has targets…..cops, store fronts, contents, parked cars, public buildings. We on the fed up right will need targets too. None listed above would be useful to us as none cause any harm. What does cause immediate, provable harm to us? The answer makes ‘civil war’ from the Right utterly unthinkable to well adjusted minds. Tempting it may be, and God knows I’ve known the feeling. But still.

I’m watching the left implode. They are undisciplined and fighting inside their ranks. Their shock troops Antifa aren’t on the field after destroying Democrats cities last time. Their agencies FBI, DOJ and others are playing coverup. So this is leftist war and I’m okay with how it’s going.

    Evil Otto in reply to r2468. | September 4, 2022 at 7:25 am

    If they’re counting on Antifa to be any kind of threat they’re in for a disappointment. Antifa is a mob, completely undisciplined and untrained. They rely on the authorities of an area looking the other way while they rampage, and when they face any kind of real opposition they run screaming or meekly comply.

    In an actual war such a (cough) ‘force’ would be quickly and easily gunned down by anyone with any training.

      The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Evil Otto. | September 4, 2022 at 8:07 am

      They may be disorganized, but, they have the government on their side, right down to Officer Friendly on the local beat.

      One of my friends has parents who both survived Germany’s experiment with The New World Order. I cannot quote him verbatim, but, he said something along these lines:

      Don’t ever trust police; don’t get involved with them! They smile and greet you on the street. They eat in your restaurants, they bring you their broken radio sets to be mended. All smiles. Then, they got their orders, and the smiles of last week disappeared. This week, they are screaming “raus! RAUS!” as they shove you into the trucks at the point of a bayonet!”

      The BLM / Antifa riots saw a lot of cops standing there doing nothing, or busting shopkeepers who had the temerity to defend their livelihoods.

      Those riots were our Kristanacht, January 6th our Reichstag fire. What event will be the false flag attack on the radio station?

        That’s part of the issue. Antifa relies on the police to do nothing while they riot, and I’ve heard of those incidents where the police arrested those fighting back. But, again, that’s what Antifa relies on, and it’s a phenomenon of deep blue cities. Antifa and BLM restrict their rioting to those areas, because they understand this.

        Most of the country isn’t like that. In my area there hasn’t been a peep out of any rioters here despite there having been several incidents (over the past few months) where cops shot black people. No sign of BLM, no sign of Antifa. They know that they would receive no support here from even the Democrat city government, and outside of that the ‘burbs are solidly GOP.

        But my point was that Antifa and BLM aren’t a serious threat in any kind of war. They wouldn’t stand a chance.

      bigskydoc in reply to Evil Otto. | September 4, 2022 at 8:54 am

      Reference Kyle Rittenhouse.

      One man.

      One rifle.

      Not even particularly well trained.

      But damn, what fine marksmanship and discipline.

      The howling mob stood no chance, even with their sneak attack(s)

angrywebmaster | September 4, 2022 at 6:15 am

People keep saying “Don’t take the bait.” What they aren’t considering is that this regime might just be cooking up a Gleiwitz incident.

They been trying to use January 6th as their Reichstag moment, but it isn’t working. The “Right” has been incredibly restrained.

it wasn’t the right that burned cities are has been attacking people, it’s the left. To date, there has only been one response, Kyle Rittenhouse. The travesty of that trial backfired when the Jury did their duty, no thanks to the moronic prosecutors and DA.

I suggest that these idiots might want to read a couple of books before they start screaming that the Right is “NAZIS!”

William L. Shirer’s the Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

My struggle by Adolf Hitler. They are emulating everything that dirtbag Hitler did in his rise to power.

What does he mean by “these people”? According to them we are a minority, and the majority is in power. Sounds like systemic racism to me.

another hollering hoodrat

do not possess the eloquence of subotai but echo his sentiments exactly–believe fjb’s speech was indeed a prelude/authorization for election interference/intimidation on a scale beyond our imagination–other than cancelling/postponing/preventing the elections outright, what other option does the left have?–they’ve been telling us all either directly or indirectly via their words and actions since 2008 that it’s their way or the highway–tyranny or else

begs the question: ” or else what? ”

though likely pissing in deaf ears, would advise the leftists/progs/dems, etc. to consider very, very carefully the prospects of provoking millions of rational, reasonable, responsible and (most importantly) well-armed americans to violence

when you provoke a peaceful man or woman to the point of violence, when you remove any other option besides self-defense of their lives or their way of life, and your actions are based on the absurd premise that you, personally, are “untouchable,” then you are a fool–and very likely a dead one

Roland Martin must be insane. Going to war against an enemy who has an estimated 100 million+ guns and he and his like have none? Being on the other side of his position I kind of like my odds.

Takes two sides for war and which is now constantly calling for one? Please spare me from the “don’t fall into the trap” nonsense. No one that I’m aware of on the right is talking about war, its the left so shut up with the pre-qualifiers over every statement. It’s as sickening as prefacing every statement about Jan 6 with “Of course we condemn violence and every wrongdoer should go to jail…yada yada yada” enough already.

    Subotai Bahadur in reply to diver64. | September 4, 2022 at 8:25 pm

    With all due respect, I take issue with one point. “Takes two sides for war”

    It only takes one side to make war, especially if it has the resources of the State behind it. If the other side does not fight back, it is an easily won civil war for the State, but it is still a war.

    It is the Democrats and their Leftist masters who literally lust after our death or enslavement. Last Thursday’s speech by Biden, declaring us to be enemies and staged deliberately at an Independence Hall rigged out like a Nazi Nuremberg Party Rally with Marines in the background leaves no doubt of that. He, and by extension ALL Democrats [they say we are ALL racists, sexists, and oppressors, just for existing] have crossed a line that cannot be retracted, no matter what he said the next day. They cannot be trusted to stay within the bounds of the law and the Constitution ever again. And we must be ready for it.

    Do I WANT a civil war? Hell, no. No one in their right mind does. But does a rational examination of the actual situation indicate that one is, if not in progress at least imminent? That has to be answered in the affirmative.

    There are a number of things that may be the kinetic trigger point. Will there be an election in November, or will they find some reason to cancel it? Will whatever is denominated as an election be as fraudulent as the one in 2020? If either happens, will the kept Republican “opposition” be as silent as they have been since January 2021, including silence about the Nuremberg Rally? If they are, that is a pretty good indicator that they is no peaceful resolution available.

    Then there is always the risk of more direct actions happening. Will the forces of the State and their street auxiliaries start assassinating patriots, including leaders? Will they start committing false flag attacks on their own side to “justify” an Enabling Act? If the Canadian weasel Trudeau could suspend the Canadian Charter of Rights and Liberties [their weak version of the Bill of Rights] by decree during the late trucker’s strike, who would stop Biden if he tried the same thing? And how, effectively? Certainly not the kept opposition.

    We will learn the truth soon.

    Subotai Bahadur

One side fighting means the other side gets taken over

Those of us who have been to war only laugh at this because we know their game and will not bite…. Until….

The Laird of Hilltucky | September 5, 2022 at 5:43 pm

I am a born-again, spirit-filled son of the Most High God. That is to say, I am a Christian. I believe that this republic was founded by men who were lead by the spirit of the creator of the universe. I believe that He still cares about and watches over this nation.

I know that an imperceptible twitch of His little finger can alter the course of history.

I believe that He is not done with us yet, and that He continues to move and guide this country. We know that the future of the world is full of destruction, but I have faith that Almighty God will guide us through this time and that “All things work together for good to them that love God.”

I have His word that He will not allow me to have to go through something that I cannot endure. Thus, I know that I can make it through whatever besets me.

Look around. Look at what has happened. I am not aware of a lunatic act from the political right. J6 appears to have been a “false flag” operation.

It is the left who appear to act without regard to outcomes. Anyone on the right who would consider a violent act is smart enough to consider the result, not commit the act, but be ready should the need arise.

TGHNDWMY “Thank God He’s Not Done With Me Yet!” He’s not done with the USA, either.

Wait and watch. We will know when the time is right, if that time ever comes.

The Democrats subscribe to and wholeheartedly support the fake science and Marxist ridden ideologies of CTR, gender fluidity and climate change-as a conservative Democrat who voted for DJT twice , against Obama twice and against Kerry and Gore, the party has clearly moved to the far left , this party has been Corbinized and must be fought on every possible political, level