VA Gov. Glenn Youngkin Slams California Law Banning New Gas-Powered Cars
Unwisely, former governor signed legislation in 2021 tying state’s emissions policies to California’s Air Resources Board. Younkin is trying to undo that.
California Gov. Gavin Newsom may soon regret his decision to involve himself in the politics of other states, as turnabout is fair play.
Virginia Gov. Glenn Youngkin slammed California leaders for approving the phaseout of new gas-powered vehicles by 2035, a burdensome emissions rule that Virginia agreed to follow under the dubious leadership of the previous governor Ralph Northam.
“In an effort to turn Virginia into California, liberal politicians who previously ran our government sold Virginia out by subjecting Virginia drivers to California vehicle laws. Now, under that pact, Virginians will be forced to adopt the California law that prohibits the sale of gas and diesel-fueled vehicles,” he said in a statement. “I am already at work to prevent this ridiculous edict from being forced on Virginians. California’s out-of-touch laws have no place in our Commonwealth.”
He might be headed for a fight. Republicans control Virginia’s House of Delegates, but Democrats run the state Senate.
House Speaker Todd Gilbert said his chamber will advance legislation during next year’s session to “put Virginians back in charge of Virginia’s auto emission standards and its vehicle marketplace.”
“Virginia is not and should not be California,” Mr. Gilbert said.
My statement on untying Virginia from California’s EV rule: https://t.co/BWSQKSgN4V pic.twitter.com/MK3mNKPyBb
— Governor Glenn Youngkin (@GovernorVA) August 26, 2022
The timing may be suitable for this battle. A new analysis shows the US needs to build 30 million EV charging ports or 478 per day until 2030 for $35 billion if half of the drivers switch.
If half of all vehicles sold are zero-emission by 2030, the country would need 1.2 million public chargers and 28 million private chargers by that year – which a McKinsey report claims would cost more than $35 billion over eight years.
Electric vehicle sales have been climbing by double digits each year since 2016, but over half of US consumers cite battery or charging issues as their main concerns – and it’s fair to say the limited network of public charging stations is a roadblock for many buyers.
The country has over 128,000 public EV charging outlets and at least 4,500 private charging stations – in comparison with about 150,000 gas stations – and faces a daunting task in trying to build out for its needs.
The McKinsey report citing the intense infrastructure hurdles says America’s fleet of electric vehicles would grow from less than three million now to more than 48 million by 2030, amounting to about 15 percent of all vehicles on the road.
I suspect 16 other states will be detaching themselves from California’s insanity once the costs, limitations, and consequences of the gas-powered car ban hit.
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Its well known the left is real good at hiding true information while just selling the “concept” to the masses. (People find out too late what the real costs are)
This is an opportunity to actually stop one.
What will the citizens of Va. do?
Youngkin was on Tucker and explained that he is going to undo these far left mandates, and separate VA from CA… My thought was if he can undo the damage successfully, then maybe, just maybe, it is not too late for CA itself. I know, magical thinking. California is toast. TY Leslie…
So, how does he plan to undo legislation without the legislature? Follow the dems down the road of autocratic rule?
I want more details on how he plans to accomplish this task.
The only vehicle I see that he has is to get the house on board then make the senate take a stand with a full media focus letting the people of Va. know what they will be paying if they don’t decouple the mandates
He has a 2 seat majority in the House, but he needs one Democrat in the Senate to flip. Youngkin is probably hoping for a good midterm result so it might scare the moderate Democrats enough for one to flip. The entire legislature is up for election in 2023, under new district lines.
Hammer the costs. They will be able to roll some dems who want to keep their jobs in the Senate. This should not be hard. Keep focused on the real effects of green dreams. Cali will rue the day they did this. The cost is going to be staggering for the people.
“I suspect 16 other states will be detaching themselves from California’s insanity once the costs, limitations, and consequences of the gas-powered car ban hit.”/i>
I’ve run across a couple of articles the last few days indicating that several states have pledged (binding?) to copy CA’s environmental initiatives, I think there are 13 that are already doing so.
So now states are surrendering their sovereignty to other states on issue after issue. Voters and citizens’ voices are being suppressed at more and more levels as the Marxist spider spins its web.
I can’t imagine it only costs $35 billion to build all those charging stations.
It’s worse …
From the McKinsey Report … “As the number of EVs on the road increases, annual demand for electricity to charge them would surge from 11 billion kilowatt-hours (kWh) now to 230 billion kWh in 2030, according to our scenario-based modeling.”
IMO … to say this CA EV idea is FUBAR is an understatement …
I was thinking the same thing. Where is the extra electricity going to come from? This idiocy is compounded by the war on fossil fuels. Wind and solar are not reliable, and the cost of installing enough solar panels and windmills plus the cost of storage is astronomical. Don’t these morons understand the collision course they are on. I guess not. They can’t because they’re morons.
Don’t buy the lie Jack
The left ( the leadership level) is NOT stupid and they are NOT “idiots” nor are they blind, uninformed or just making “mistakes”.
They KNOW this is a scam and it cannot possibly work- they have never “not known” it.
This is a Marxist driven managed destruction of the entire capitalist system in order to redistribute wealth and drive the global population into a manageable number by the totalitarian elements.
The only people who DONT know this are the drones who “believe” the utopia lie but that is NOT the leadership class. That is the “useful idiot” class and their numbers are growing rapidly.
Its a waste of time and effort to even attempt correction/education at the “fact and truth” level because they KNOW they are lying ( they know the truth, don’t believe they don’t for a second)- they want to SUPPRESS the truth.
You can take what I said in different ways about the policy makers being morons. I think, though, we are in agreement that they’re watermelons: green on the outside, red on the inside.
“ I was thinking the same thing. Where is the extra electricity going to come from?”
Windmills and solar panels.
Unicorn farts and skittle rainbows, actually, but points for participating, Grizz!
And when the wind doesn’t blow and the sun doesn’t shine, you’re up the proverbial creek without a paddle. I’m sure though you what you said was in jest.
Wait until people see what this is going to really cost all in. The knock on effects are mind blowing. Read Dr Tim Morgan over at Surplus Energy Economics to get an idea.
There will never be that many electric cars, using that much electricity, because this was never about getting people to use electric cars. It’s about limiting population mobility by getting people out of cars and into government-run mass transportation.
I would love to see the baseline data used for the “basis of estimate” for those numbers.
I quote stuff literally daily and build the bids for projects- that’s an artificially low number UNLESS its clearly defined as to what a station is, where the construction starts & stops and what utility hooks are required.
Its common in the project management world to use the ASPE system so this is most likely a L-5 estimate ( a PIDOOMA) which is worthless for anything beyond concept planning.
To estimate something of that scale ( say to a level-3 to 1 estimate which has real validity), it would take teams of engineers to come up with a design and buyers to cost and project managers to get the estimates- in other words, it would take SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS just to BUILD A REAL ESTIMATE for something that size and scope.
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT anyone was commissioned and paid to develop such an estimate.
So if anyone ever wonders why govt projects cost so much- they “sell’ the level-5 number ( which is estimated to be maybe 5% accurate in a perfect world) to initially fund a project but wind up paying the Level-1 cost. ( which is what it is)- this doesn’t happen in the private sector so much because you have to “pay to play”.
Of course you do, taurus, in your many fields of “expertise.” And stuff. Is there ANYTHING you don’t know absolutely everything about and aren’t an “expert” in/at? Just curious.
What bothers you most fuzzy?
The fact that I know what I’m talking about or the reality that you don’t?
You might want to look up a typical Engineer career path and professional development model and see what all is there.
Or you can wonder why if I’m not qualified and spouting garbage that all the “real” experts here aren’t all over me correcting me?
In either case, grow up
It’s not just the chargers, that’s the cheap part. You have to power all of those chargers and that is a massive build-out unless you want the things charging slower than molasses.
Considering the current prices of EV’s … these states are going to need huge incentives for average people to afford those cars.
Also note that what CA is doing also applies to trucks and truck prices even on the used market are so high that some shippers and independents have decided to get out of the biz. So … trucking is likely to be slower and more expensive.
CA also buys a good deal of their power on the open market from other states … and if those states jump on the EV bandwagon my money says they’ll either keep the power for their state or raise prices to CA.
This is the ne plus ultra of bad decisions … not only by CA but other states that have legally bound themselves to follow CA’s lead.
I don’t think EVs are ever going to be a viable option for long-haul trucks. The F-150s can go only 100 miles hauling a load at which point they need to recharge. How long do you think an 18-wheeler will go before needing a recharge, assuming any electricity? So, I think long-haul trucks will disappear from California unless such trucks get an exemption from the moronic EVs rules. As an aside, if all vehicles have to be EV all shipping may have to relocate to the Gulf ports unless Mexico builds a port in Baja California.
Imagine if those States decide to jack up those rates as a new source of revenue?
CA is about to issue a “flex alert” urging people to not recharge their EVs for at least today. But starting today, we are heading for a stretch of 100+ temp weather to last right through to next Tuesday. You can bet that A/C usage and cooking will also be mentioned. Might as well take a long cold shower. Oh, that’s another thing…. water.
As I’ve always said … “California … first to get the worst” …
I hate living here.
Why don’t you move? I can’t imagine living my whole life and waking up every morning in a place that I hated.
It’s hard. People still think that they can get back the good ole days by just staying put and doing the right thing. We are far, far beyond that. They’ll move to a red state when they see, for themselves, that their dream is dead, their home is lost, their state gone. It will happen, and it happens for everyone, but it takes time. And our love and support. It’s hard to admit that everything you love and built and cared for and cherished is truly gone.
From the article: “The country has over 128,000 public EV charging outlets and at least 4,500 private charging stations – in comparison with about 150,000 gas stations – and faces a daunting task in trying to build out for its needs.”
The number of gasoline stations isn’t broken out to the number of hoses that can be used at the same time. One pump can have two hoses, two pumps on an island, and often four or more islands in a station. Ever been to a Buc-ee’s? A thousand hoses (no exaggeration) at a station is not unrealistic.
Yeah, won’t it be a scene to see if two dozen cars are backed up at a station waiting to charge? You might have to use a Buc-ee’s type charging station because you’ll eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner while waiting your turn at a charger that can easily quit working when you plug in.
As for a fast charger at home, be prepared to drop thousands on your electrician on a major service upgrade if the house is more than a couple of decades old. So much for savings.
These people are jibbering idjits. I’ll hang on to our ten- and fifteen-year-old Hyundais a while longer. Max ten minutes to fill and be on my way is fine w/me.
There’s a little gadget called a NeoCharge Smart Splitter that you can plug into your 220V/240V dryer outlet for $500-ish … made just for charging EV’s … beats charging at 115V/120V … and one to four grand to have an electrician install a charger.
My dryer is on the second floor, and most EVs don’t climb stairs.
This might be a good option if you park in a garage where the laundry equipment is located, but I’m in a townhome with a carport outside and the dryer inside so that won’t work. The best I can do is plug in to my 120 volt receptacle by the front door, which might charge enough overnight for a ten mile round trip to the grocery store the next day. I suspect that is typical for many. If I want to go the EV route, it’ll have to be a plugin hybrid.
I’m glad my son-in-law runs a bicycle shop.
I have a garage located 10 feet from the dryer – a gas dryer. Ha!
Government always touts operating costs while ignoring capital costs. This is in part down to government accounting rules that write down capital improvements 100% in the year of installation. That makes a million dollar solar installation look like it has zero ongoing costs as there is no annual depreciation cost being budgeted.
Then they have no return on capital metrics to meet, so if the electricity savings from the solar doesn’t even keep up with inflation and gives you a negative return on investment they don’t care.
Naturally, they act as if these two things are acceptable and legal for private parties.
DSHornet beat me. I was going to point out the same things. I will add, however, that the largest Buc-ees in the world (New Braunfels, TX) has 24 Tesla charging stations. The most I have ever seen in use is 9, and usually much less.
Point being that those 24 charging stations won’t be much use if all the cars are coal powered EVs.
Another point, the City of New Braunfels Utilities has no generating capacity. All power is bought at often high prices. Even a 50% increase in EVs will add more costs to the already high prices NBU charges.
And then there is generation and distribution capacity. These starry eyed planners haven’t said much about that, have they? In unusually hot weather, we’ll all have to sit at home sweating, knowing that we can’t charge the car to go to a cool place. Dino fueled vehicles have their good points.
And of course, exactly no one is talking about the environemental impact of all of those electric batteries when they are no longer functional.
It’s OK, the environmental impact will be borne by our good friends the Chinese and their slave laborers.
Oh wait, the Chinese hate us and want to subjugate us, and we’re going to make ourselves completely reliant upon them for our power?
What could go wrong? Hint…. see Europe, Russia, Nat. Gas situation.
While some ev batteries use no Cobalt , most all lithium batteries do
70% of the known Cobalt mines are in the Democratic Republic of Congo, where there is still ongoing battles with China as to who owns and runs them
Then, there’s the reality of the raping of the Oh, So Precious Rainforests there, where numerous species of fauna and hundreds of examples of flora are in jeopardy of extinction by these mines
And let’s not leave out the slave and child labor used, with kiddies as young as 3 are being used.
Demand for Cobalt is presently expected to outdo supply in less that 10 years, at the current rate of use. Let alone adding more EVs to the mix
This all has nothing to do with Climate
It’s ALL about “Control”
My theory is that the leftists who make these grandiose plans are not morons – they KNOW the consequences of their schemes, and They. Do. Not. Care.
Those who follow Victor Davis Hanson and/or Thomas Sowell will see this as a classic example of the group who thinks they know best for the rest of us (the Elites) dictating programs for which they will be immune from the consequences when those programs fail.
And speaking of program failures, has CA issued a progress report on that “high speed rail” project? They should be about done and moving passengers from SF to LA any day now.
I am tempted to call all this Bull S**t, but unlike the green programs, manure has a use.
Because of the EV conundrum, California is also busy trying to push the Hindenburg on wheels plan on H2 powered cars…a ridiculously stupid and impractical idea.
I’m admittedly not up on the latest hydrogen separation technology, but doesn’t it come from electrolysis? We’re back to the electricity supply point again. Like I said, jibbering idjits.
I don’t see a problem. NC is one hour drive and they sell new cars. What stops me from shopping out of state or buying a used car. VA can’t prevent people who move to VA from registering their cars. Same must apply to me.
If the frog had wings, he wouldn’t bump his butt every time he jumped!
This is the current situation idiot liberal Governor Newsom is in California. Climate change is a false narrative. The world has proven that it goes thru cyclical changes through out its history. Man contribution to these changes is minute and has little to no effect and cannot alter what the world does on its own. These changes evolve and like a pendulum shifts back and forth.
The conclusion is obvious, just as electric demand for air conditioning is peaking, the wind turbines stop spinning.
If you want air conditioning, you will need to get it elsewhere. Some will note that the clear, summer air will allow solar plants to reach a relatively high output, which is true until the sun sets. Now is when fossil fuel and nuclear power plants will provide the electric power American needs, like charging that Tesla battery car, provided the government did not put you on a roving black out! DO NOT charge that electric car battery because we need fossil fueled power generators to run A/C in this heat and we did not create more power plants. Solar does not work after dark, and wind does not always blow. Then there is the ever-shrinking elevation of California’s fertile farm ground as the water aquafers shrink. And the Governor says not to desalination to provide water to his citizens. You can’t make this up.
Guess who is laughing their keisters off as America heads into the Left’s EV future, knowing they control so much of the equipment, materials, and technology necessary for batteries, thus giving them a choke-hold on the U.S. economy?
Can you spell C-H-I-N-A?