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California Ready to Ask People to Conserve Energy, Avoid ‘Charging Electric Vehicles’

California Ready to Ask People to Conserve Energy, Avoid ‘Charging Electric Vehicles’

“…avoid using large appliances and charging electric vehicles, and turn off unnecessary lights.”

California wants to ban gas-powered cars by 2035. The state wants everyone to have electric vehicles.

What about days when you have to conserve energy? These Flex Alerts include a provision to avoid charging electric vehicles.

I’m laughing so hard right now because California is ready to issue those Flex Alerts due to a heatwave. From The Los Angeles Times (emphasis mine):

For officials with the California Independent System Operator, which operates the Golden State’s power grid, a lengthy and punishing period of high temperatures means Flex Alerts are likely.

“If weather or grid conditions worsen, the ISO may issue a series of emergency notifications to access additional resources and prepare market participants and the public for potential energy shortages and the need to conserve,” the officials warned Tuesday night. “The power grid operator expects to call on Californians for voluntary energy conservation via Flex Alerts over the long weekend.”

During a Flex Alert, consumers are urged to reduce their energy use from 4 p.m. to 9 p.m., hours when the grid is most stressed because of high demand and less available energy from solar panels.

If a Flex Alert is issued, customers will be asked to set their thermostats to 78 degrees or higher, avoid using large appliances and charging electric vehicles, and turn off unnecessary lights.

Dyyyyyying. But then again, when it’s that hot, do you want to leave the house? I never want to!

What about solar panels? Yup: “The power grid is particularly vulnerable in the evening, as electricity from solar panels tapers off but it’s still so hot that residents keep air conditioners humming.”

Gov. Gavin Newsom knows the system is weak. He wants the state “Legislature to loan PG&E Corp. up to $1.4 billion to postpone the scheduled 2025 closure of Diablo Canyon.”

These people aren’t used to the sweltering heat we feel in Oklahoma and Texas. Thankfully OKC doesn’t have the Houston humidity, which I do NOT miss.

The Flex Alert sounds like what we call Smart Hours in OKC. Monday through Friday, we pre-cool our homes from 12-2 and turn the AC to a higher temp between 2-7 PM. Like ordinary people, we do all of this during those Smart Hours:

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Comments

Antifundamentalist | August 31, 2022 at 1:03 pm
Colonel Travis | August 31, 2022 at 1:13 pm

I like how Governor Greaseproduct badmouths Florida and Texas, meanwhile his state is the most mismanaged purposefully trashed hellhole in the nation.

There are no words for the level stupid that exists in California.

    Paddy M in reply to NotCoach. | August 31, 2022 at 1:28 pm

    It’s malice too.

    henrybowman in reply to NotCoach. | August 31, 2022 at 5:43 pm

    Demi Lovato scrounged her desperate, “I’m still relevant” headline this week with a story about how she was finally truly sober, not just “California sober.”
    I liked the phrase.
    We should promote another one: “California solvent.”

      healthguyfsu in reply to henrybowman. | August 31, 2022 at 10:02 pm

      Has that woman/fluid thing not run out of desperate attempts for attention?

      I saw one ad where she was trying to do some show about aliens or psychics or some crap like that.

Solar Cells can lose efficiency in very hot weather. They function best at about 70 degrees and can easily lose 10% efficiency at 100 degrees.

Yet, warmists will tell you with a straight face that the grid can support hundreds of thousands of EV while eliminating fossil fuels simultaneously. Oh, they’re also anti-nuke too.

It’d be funny if weren’t so dangerous. Europe is about to get it good and hard this winter and useful idiots in the US are insistent on doing the same.

2smartforlibs | August 31, 2022 at 2:15 pm

Good thing Liberlafornia doesn’t need people working so they can afford all the free. sarc

So they ‘recommend setting thermostat to 78 or higher’.

And what is the thermostat in Governor Hair Gel’s office and mansion set at.

I will bet my house it ain’t at 78.

    Martin in reply to Olinser. | August 31, 2022 at 2:40 pm

    Governor Hair Gel is more important than you. He must be kept cool so he can keep coming up with great policy decisions like this and so his hair gel won’t melt.

    The Gentle Grizzly in reply to Olinser. | August 31, 2022 at 5:56 pm

    I am also reasonably certain he is chauffeured back and forth to his office* in something other than an electrically driven vehicle.

    * I chose my words carefully; he is not chauffeured back and forth to work. That would imply he does something useful.

The Dems know electric cars will quickly overwhelm our electric power grid.

They don’t care. That’s the plan. They want it to happen.

The Dems know most electric in the US is generated by burning coal and natural gas.

When the blackouts and brownouts come the government, run by Dems and Dem bureaucrats, can then start rationing electric power. Giving them much more control over the lives of Americans.

It’s a win-win for the Dem fascist control freaks. Or so they think.

    JohnC in reply to JHogan. | August 31, 2022 at 2:53 pm

    There is no nation in the world with the infrastructure to support its population switching to EVs. Not only are there not enough charging stations – there isn’t enough power in the grid to run them if they were built. And there are no plans to increase power output. Just the opposite, in fact. Power production is being hamstrung.

    The goal, as best as I can tell, is to get everything to a point where the vast majority of people don’t drive cars because it’s simply no longer an option.

    Globalists don’t like you driving cars or taking planes; They like when you ride the bus, take a train or ride a bicycle.
    They don’t like you living in suburbs with front lawns; They like when you are packed tightly into cities.
    They don’t like you eating hamburgers; They have plans in motion to switch you over to soy and cricket powder.
    They don’t like you having a nuclear family; They want you rudderless and amoral as livestock.
    And Globalists really don’t like you having firearms; Things will be much better when you are unarmed and harmless.

    Everything that’s happening in the West is to promote one or more of these Globalist “preferences.”

California: You mean the cars that will soon be the only ones we’re allowed to buy? Gotcha.

    henrybowman in reply to JohnC. | August 31, 2022 at 5:51 pm

    You’re only allowed to buy the cars that don’t work.
    You’re only allowed to hear the news that hides the truth.
    You’re only allowed to own the guns that kill squirrels.
    You’re only allowed to elect the tyrants who want to plunder you.

Go Green for renewable, intermittent, unreliable energy and quality of life.

Right now it may seem funny, but one day down the road when gas cars are gone and there won’t be power available to charge your EV, you will be saying “hey!! I can’t travel freely. I’m stuck here without transportation”.

“That’s the point” will be the State’s reply.

taurus the judge | August 31, 2022 at 3:30 pm

One thing most people don’t understand because they don’t do load calculations if what efficiency really means and does.

Basically its like this- they say on an L-2 charger it takes say 10kwh to fully charge a type 1 battery on average to full charge. (made up example for discussion purposes assuming a good battery at 50% charge)

That kwh is the end number at the battery. Now you have to add loss of efficiency ( it takes 100+% to get 100% work) at the load center, conductors, supply lines all the way back to the actual turbine.

In industrial settings (usually built to NEC) add about 30% more load than all the EV’s. For residential add 50% ( Home grade stuff is very weakly made compared to industrial counterparts)

Remember, everything thats WARM is losing energy and every connection is another loss.

The turbine must then be able to handle THAT additional load running at 80% duty cycle PLUS 25% for peak loading.

(This is why there are rolling blackouts to begin with)

Add all the chargers you want but without additional CAPACITY, the results will never be there.

    henrybowman in reply to taurus the judge. | August 31, 2022 at 5:54 pm

    “Remember, everything thats WARM is losing energy and every connection is another loss.
    The turbine must then be able to handle THAT additional load running at 80% duty cycle PLUS 25% for peak loading.”

    Plus some more for the A/C to counteract all that heat escaping into your physical plant.
    Yeah, I’m a child of the raised-floor computer age.

BierceAmbrose | August 31, 2022 at 5:00 pm

EV Mandates — Having failed at more direct attempts, forcing you into electric cars so they can tell you when you can drive. See also “mass transit” and “public transportation”, and “Federal highway function; conditions on.”

The Gentle Grizzly | August 31, 2022 at 6:05 pm

How many more companies that actully MAKE THINGS will be leaving California as the rolling blackouts become more frequent? I say make things (tangible goods) as opposed to sitting in front of a screen making the next Candy Crush game or some new gimmick for a website.

Anyone who ordered the air conditioning extra must feel like a fool.

Americans are great innovators. Do you really believe we can’t beat the tyrants? The WEF and the globalists aren’t going to win. No American is going to eat bugs instead of beef, pork or chicken.

I make the analogy bugs = EV cars and beef, pork and chicken = gas powered cars. Or take me literally. We are not going to eat bugs.

Fat_Freddys_Cat | September 1, 2022 at 12:16 pm

Democrat politicians always love to go on about how they have a plan for everything; a favorite line of attack to critics is “so what is your plan?”

Does Newsome have a plan for upgrading California’s electrical grid so that it can handle this load? I mean, something more detailed than “spend a lot of money”.