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Father Claims UPenn Told Female Swimmers to ‘Get Over’ Seeing Lia Thomas’ Male Genitalia in the Locker Room

Father Claims UPenn Told Female Swimmers to ‘Get Over’ Seeing Lia Thomas’ Male Genitalia in the Locker Room

“we were basically told that we could not ostracize Lia by not having her in the locker room and that there’s nothing we can do about it”

In January, we reported that female swimmers at UPenn were uncomfortable sharing a locker room with transgender team member Lia Thomas.

Removing bathing suits involves nudity and Thomas is a biological male.

Now the father of one of those swimmers has claimed in an interview that the school told these young women to just get over it.

Madeline Leesman writes at Townhall:

UPenn Swimmer’s Father: Penn Told Female Swimmers To ‘Get Over’ Lia Thomas Using Locker Room

The father of a female swimmer on the University of Pennsylvania’s women’s swim team said in an interview this week that the school breached trust and failed to protect his daughter by allowing biological male swimmer Will “Lia” Thomas to compete on the women’s team this season and share a locker room with the team.

The father made the remarks in an interview with The Washington Examiner on the condition of anonymity.

“I can’t say she’s been traumatized, but there was definitely a breach of trust and a failure on the part of Penn to protect her,” the father told The Examiner.

“In the fall of 2019, when Lia first came out, the girls were told she would have her own separate space somewhere,” the father said regarding Thomas sharing the locker room with female swimmers. “For some reason, that obviously changed. I’m not sure why it changed. Was it money? Was it legal threats?”

As Matt covered earlier this year, members of the UPenn women’s swim team felt uncomfortable sharing the locker room with Thomas. An anonymous swimmer told Daily Mail that Thomas “still has male body parts and is still attracted to women.” The swimmer added that other members of the team spoke to the team’s coaches about the issue, but the discussions did not go anywhere.

Here’s more from Christopher Tremoglie at the Washington Examiner:

Penn wouldn’t listen to any female swimmers’ complaints about having to be exposed to male genitalia, he said. Penn basically told them to shut up and deal with it.

“Regarding Lia in the locker room, Penn told any female swimmers who had issues to essentially ‘get over it,’” the father said. “They can’t ostracize Lia.”

“Multiple swimmers have raised it, multiple different times,” a Penn swimmer said of discomfort within the locker room. “But we were basically told that we could not ostracize Lia by not having her in the locker room and that there’s nothing we can do about it, that we basically have to roll over and accept it, or we cannot use our own locker room.”

In 2012, Democrats and the media accused Republicans of waging a war on women.

In 2022, the left thinks young women who don’t want to see male genitals in their locker room need to just get over it.


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I can’t believe some father hasn’t kicked the snot out of this guy.

    Joe-dallas in reply to tom. | April 6, 2022 at 11:20 am

    I concur with kicking the “blank” out of the guy –

    that being said – you might be very suprised how much upper body strength female swimmers have ( my daughter who is a petite swimmer when she was 14, nearly threw me across the room when she throw a temper tantrum).

    Lia being a male , has immensely more upper body strength, so kicking his Axx my not be so easy

      gonzotx in reply to Joe-dallas. | April 6, 2022 at 11:29 am

      14, your daughter got phyt with you at 14?

        Joe-dallas in reply to gonzotx. | April 6, 2022 at 12:14 pm

        gonzotx – sorta physical – she was throwing temper tantrum, I put my hand on her shoulder as firmly with as much strength that I thought in needed to calm her down, certainly wasnt going to use more strength than needed, it was more of a case – that she caught me by surprise – I was expecting the strength of the typical 14y old girl and that petite little kid could probably bench 200 at the time.

        My primary point is the upper body strength of swimmers is immense.

      I know several fathers that would help.

        MattMusson in reply to tom. | April 6, 2022 at 12:43 pm

        It’s not a penis. It’s a rudder.

        Joe-dallas in reply to tom. | April 6, 2022 at 12:45 pm

        tom in reply to Joe-dallas. | April 6, 2022 at 12:35 pm
        “I know several fathers that would help.”

        that reminds of a story from my high school boxing days – (early 1970’s ), My sparring partner & I were small ( 106-132 weight class 9th grade through 12th grade). He won the state Golden glove in 132 weight class two years. A couple of years later he wound up in state prison. He was a little guy in prison less than 150 lbs at that time, and was accousted by group of 3-4 200-250lb guys and being informed that he was going to be their personal servant – (prison bride). he promptly put the ring leader down for a good 10 min, Needless to say he was left alone the rest of his sentence.

        moral of the story – The lia pervert needs to be put down, but 4-5 fathers aint going to do it.

      meatmann50 in reply to Joe-dallas. | April 7, 2022 at 11:38 am

      The whole team should just walk out! If we don’t fight this stuff now we’re in big trouble later! If it means giving up scholarships, that’s a casualty of war! Make no mistake….this is a war, a culture war….on women!

    He should have been Karened. The female swimmers should have called the cops. There is a guy with his dick hanging out in the female locker room.

    I’m surprised some GIRL hasn’t kicked the snot out of this guy.

The parents of these young women are at the very least complicit. But I do thank UPenn for bringing this issue to the fore just in time for the 2022 mid-terms.

Women have been officially sacrificed at the alter of Tran sexuality

Welcome to the sh!t show amd you will like it.

These athletes don’t understand their own power. If in mass they ALL walk out, the lucrative athletic departments crumble.

Ladies, get ahold of your ovaries of steel !

This is WAR (Breitbart)

    Massinsanity in reply to gonzotx. | April 6, 2022 at 12:34 pm

    The more details that come out on this story the more troubling it becomes. From the abject selfishness of Thomas (does he not have parents?), to the timidity of everyone in the administration and coaching staff at Penn to the lack of will to fight back (damn the consequences) on behalf of the Penn swimmers and every other female swimmer Thomas competed against I continue to be mystified by the action of each and every one of them.

    No doubt cancel culture and leftist indoctrination played a role in the unwillingness of the young women to fight back but their to do so makes them less sympathetic. At any point during the season these young women could have banded together and refused to swim agains Thomas either overtly, by not showing up, or covertly, by not entering the water until Thomas was done swimming, which I think would have been more effective. Let Thomas win every race in an empty pool then let the real women swim against each other to determine the best female swimmer on that day.

    But they cowered to the mob and should regret that deeply.

      Dathurtz in reply to Massinsanity. | April 6, 2022 at 2:46 pm

      Most of them aren’t cowering to the mob. They agree with the mob. You aren’t gonna find a whole lot of university employees that aren’t full in on whatever the current issue happens to be.

    NYBruin in reply to gonzotx. | April 7, 2022 at 6:08 pm

    I don’t think women’s swimming is a huge moneymaker at Penn – or anywhere else!

Antifundamentalist | April 6, 2022 at 11:54 am

I wonder how UPenn Administration would react if the women on the team stopped using their own locker room in protest? (they’d have to either come with swimsuits on and strip off street clothes on the sidelines or something, but where there is a will, there is a way).
I suspect there would be disciplinary action against them if they took a stand like that.

Another Voice | April 6, 2022 at 12:39 pm

“An anonymous swimmer told Daily Mail that Thomas “still has male body parts and is still attracted to women”

Really ? What specifically doe this imply ? An erection ? If so, then say so. If this is happening it is a given measurement of testosterone levels produced within the testicles. . To have the testosterone levels reduced to a level that estrogen is the bodies “go to” hormone takes up to a consistent 3 to 6 years to reflect a female body mass.

Being Thomas began hormone treatment in May 2019 while on the Men’s team for 2019/20 but then was allowed to be on the Women’s 2021/22 team while not quite a complete of the first year of hormone treatments. Timeline wise, hormone treatment can take up to 5-6 years to have hormone levels balance to a estrogen primary level and mental health treatment to deal with body dysmorphic. Treatments neither of which Thomas has achieved. Should he put himself in that place say in 2023/24 or 2024/25, then let him reapply for the women’s team after having a complete physical,

    Another Voice in reply to Another Voice. | April 6, 2022 at 12:48 pm

    PS: As a woman I can honestly say there isn’t a female out there that didn’t suffer through becoming a “woman”, That process in total takes approx. 5-6 years. Let Thomas earn his keep and even then deal with hormone treatments or devices to prevent pregnancy for the next 35 years.

What kind of crazy mixed up world are we living in when females have male genitalia? And when females who have female genitalia have to undress in front of them? And when they don’t like it they are told to get over it?

It’s about time to get out the paring knife.

So, if he “Flashed” his teammates outside the locker room he would be arrested.

Flashing within the locker room should also get this guy arrested.

He sounds like a deviate to me.

    henrybowman in reply to ParkRidgeIL. | April 6, 2022 at 8:00 pm

    I don’t understand why somebody doesn’t swear out a complaint against this dick as a sex offender, illegal exposure, and name the school as an accomplice. See how the courts decide whether he’s a woman or not.

AnAdultInDiapers | April 6, 2022 at 1:08 pm

I’m confused. I would be ringing the police and reporting a flasher, indecent exposure, sexual harassment.

Waving a penis at women is illegal in Pennsylvania isn’t it?

I wondered if he was showing his ‘arrousal’ when in the company of naked females while he was naked, but then realized he would claim he was lesbian, so it was natural.

Two plus two equals five.

The only way to stop this nonsense is for real women athletes to refuse to compete against men pretending to be women. I’d like to see all the women swimmers line up at the starting gate like they’ll swim against Lia Thomas. But when the starting gun goes off none of the women jump in the pool so only Lia Thomas is swimming. That would get some attention.

    This crap will continue until the freaks get their faces smashed in, teeth and jaws broken, repeatedly until they understand that they must shut the fuck up and crawl back under their rocks. Come out from under your rock, get your face smashed again. Simple equation.

    SpeakUpNow in reply to Blue Collar Todd. | April 7, 2022 at 3:45 pm

    This has been going on for quite awhile. The only way this ends is when women develop some balls – metaphorically of course! — and refuse to swim with her/him. The whole woke culture will eventually consume itself but it is sure taking a lot longer than it should.

CaliforniaJimbo | April 6, 2022 at 3:50 pm

If my daughter was on the team, I would not let her be near the man pretending to be a woman.
Maybe some of the other teammates could practice their towel snapping on an errant snake that it hasn’t cut off yet.
This is a circus. If you want to dress as a woman, go for it. But don’t flaunt your obviously male appendage around my daughter. My German short hair pointer loves to chew on sticks.

Bring out the lions… Transgender (i.e. medical, surgical, psychiatric corruption) conversion therapy is an inclusive process.

Subotai Bahadur | April 6, 2022 at 4:49 pm

1) I have heard reports, which in themselves are NOT evidence, that he/she/it does have erections in the locker room with his/her/its female team mates. If such occurs, I suspect that someone should be reading Pennsylvania statutes in re sex offenses [and the statutes in other states where they compete], and charge if appropriate. They do not need the school’s permission to file charges as individuals for say indecent exposure or felony weenie-wagging.

2) There have been mentions of kinetic actions against he/she/it. I admit that I am surprised that such has not happened, and note that the Marquess of Queensbury rules apply to boxing and not other sports and do not apply to swimming.

3) The biologically female members of the team need to seriously ponder how much the scholarships are worth to them and consider either leaving the sport or the school.

Subotai Bahadur

In the real world where I live his behavior is a crime and he is mentally ill. Liberals please convince me otherwise. Go.

The process of normalizing this behavior is accepting the premise and debating the issues. I reject this out of hand and would support a lady swimmer calling the police.

Remember Lorena Bobbit?

She got off for cutting her husband’s pecker off. If the girls in the locker room all got together and did the same to Mr. Thomas, they’d probably skate as well.

This will end when either all women boycott meets with trannys OR real men step up and bury the trannys.

As a former (elite) college athlete- I think in my later years competing, I would have done the latter. I’d tank every race that was fair and bury the tranny any time there was one. On the down side this is a rough game to play when scholarship money is at risk. So in fairness to the actual girls, it would have to be walk-on talent. That walk on talent could also enforce some locker room justice too.

    jb4 in reply to Andy. | April 6, 2022 at 11:18 pm

    Interesting perspective about “real men”. I would like to read a story interviewing the men on the Penn swim team about the situation. The perspective of any male swimmers has been remarkably absent from reporting, perhaps because the MSM agenda does not include enumeration of all the physical advantages they have and references to cheating..

Truly a marvel of modernity. I used to spend $200/night on strippers. But thanks to the miracle of “trans” technology for the bargain price of $149.99/mo savings on one L.A. Fitness membership I can turn you ALL into strippers.

You’re f***ing bigots if you don’t get into the shower with me!!

“Father Claims UPenn Told Female Swimmers to ‘Get Over’ Seeing Lia Thomas’ Male Genitalia in the Locker Room”

When I was in college I used to dream about getting naked with the women’s beach volleyball team. Never did I dream it was so attainable.

Chop, chop, ladies, who are you to complain about my increasingly erect female penis.*

*Does anyone think I’m happy about these developments? Get stuffed.

This story reveals something profound. Coaches usually exert moral authority and control over their teams. However, “get over it” really is beyond the normal coaching relationship — we expect coaches to want to be supporting of team members

For society as a whole, we are adopting a centralized command and control over what we are allowed to think. Girls were socialized into feeling uncomfortable with men exposing themselves. Now the unidentified “they” (who are implementing the transexual agenda) have decided that girls should be socialized into not feeling uncomfortable with men exposing themselves SO LONG AS THE DEFINITION OF ‘MEN’ IS REDEFINED to not consider male sex organs. Who are “they”? Some HR consultant? Some trans-rights advocate? One would hope that parents would be the ones to teach their daughters when to be alarmed and how to handle such situations, not the University of Pennsylvania Board of Trustees or the Biden Department of Education.

If he’s a female, why hasn’t his gentles been removed ???

    Arminius in reply to gmhunt. | April 7, 2022 at 11:27 am

    This is a cult. Through a combination of socio-environmental techniques, emotional techniques, cognitive techniques, and inducement of dissociative states (colloquially known as brain washing, but the technical term for this is coercive persuasion; using force to change how someone thinks or feels) you abandon your claim to perceive reality by yourself based upon the evidence right before your eyes.

    The fact that you think, on your own, that William (Lia) Thomas can parade around a locker room exposing his (or as they would say, her) twig and berries means he isn’t a woman means you haven’t been beaten down enough. You’ll be told by the cult leaders and then by the cancel culture that is the cult enforcers when you’re looking at a male penis or a female penis.

    “How many fingers Winston? – Nineteen Eighty-Four”

    Here’s where I confront leftish shills like Milhouse. Of course KBJ can’t, or rather won’t, say she knows what a woman is. That would mean there is such a thing as objective truth. And of course this thing won’t hold a position on whether or not there are natural rights. To deny that such a thing as a woman exists is to deny that such a thing as nature exists. And how can a non-existent nature confer rights.?

    You have to be naive beyond stupid to not see what’s going on here. Yet Milhouse demands it.

    I’m sure if Im mistating his position I’ll hear about it. Looking forwar to it.

Lucifer Morningstar | April 7, 2022 at 8:25 am

“we were basically told that we could not ostracize Lia by not having her in the locker room and that there’s nothing we can do about it”

And this is what annoys me. If you’re dead set against having a biological male who pretends to be a woman in the women’s locker room then you ought not to be referring to that biological male with the pronoun “her” but the appropriate pronoun “him” . By referring to Thomas as a woman (her) you are validating this whole disgusting situation.

If Lia wants to be a woman, he should go all in and cut off his genitals. Until then he’s absolutely a male. Maybe if he removes his genitals, people may believe he is indeed trying to be a woman. Even then, he’ll still be a biological male. Perhaps, Lia should return to using his male name and go back to swimming against other men.

Capitalist-Dad | April 7, 2022 at 9:37 am

In leftist-run America everybody has “rights” except normal Americans (that is, people who work to make and deliver valuable goods and services to their fellow citizens and who aren’t leftists).

taurus the judge | April 7, 2022 at 1:55 pm

Maybe they could invite Lorena Bobbitt’s daughter to join the team?

There is only one way this will end well. The FATHERS of these women need to grow some testicles, sand take a solid stand. They need to, all of them, approach the admin of the university and DEMAND the fakeer be removed from the team, else their daughters will ALL remove themsevles. Then it will be a one man show at the next swim meet.
These women will recover from any harm done by beiling on their swimming carrers. Few will still be swimming competitively in three years. None will in ten. Leave this poser in their wake and move on wiht life.
If U Pennwon’t wake up and smell the coffee, they will go down in histiriy as failiures anyway.

What is moree important? The integrity of their daughter’s lives, or being able to swim on a team?

Encourage the owmen on the other tems to take a hard stand everytime this faker is on the start line. The real women should simply wait. on the countdown.. to your marks, ready, go…. at on your arks, turn around and take three steps away from the edge of the pool. This faker will be the only one in the water. When the organisers call a false start, the women mUST stand and say HE MAY NOT COMPETE AGAINT SUS BECAUSE HE IS NOT FAMALE We will NOT enter the pool with HIM.

If the fathers of thewe womenwill not grow a pair, maybe the women need to, figuratively, and stand firm for what is right. History will mark them as fearless heroes.

healthguyfsu | April 7, 2022 at 1:59 pm

A trans lesbian is a guy that just wants to find creepier ways to get closer to girls.

This won’t end until the real females choose to end it. It’s just a matter of refusing to participate in anything this guy is involved in. No competition, no practice, no locker-rooms — nothing.

Any competition he’s involved in should have no other participants — and the same policy should apply to fake women in all women’s sports. If the gals were to get together and do this, it wouldn’t take long to break the woke morons at the NCAA, college administrators, etc.

    SpeakUpNow in reply to Bisley. | April 7, 2022 at 3:46 pm

    Totally agree. The girls can handle this themselves if they choose to. Just another in the long list of woke idiocies.

The anonymous dad thinks his college age daughter could be traumatized by the sight of a naked man?? I think he needs to be more realistic about what girls his daughter’s age have seen and done!

    docduracoat in reply to NYBruin. | April 8, 2022 at 8:33 pm

    NY Bruin,
    I think you missed the point.
    Of course these college age women have probably engaged in sexual activity with men.
    You would hope this sexual activity took place in a private bedroom in a consensual relationship.
    This is a women’s locker room.
    We are talking about a public space reserved for women.
    Sexual activity is forbidden here
    And apparently most of the women athletes do not consent to having this man (and his public, naked erections) in their women only space.
    So there is a major difference.