ESPN Analyst Compares China Committing Genocide Against Uyghurs to U.S. Voting Laws
“Who are we to criticize China’s human rights records when we have ongoing attacks by the agents of the state against unarmed citizens and we’ve got assaults on the voting rights of our people of color in various states in this country.”
J.A. Adande, director of sports journalism at Northwestern University, said out loud on ESPN’s Around the Horn that genocide is the same as voter ID laws. He also claimed we have “agents of the state” blasting away unarmed citizens.
The Around the Horn Twitter account even tweeted out the segment. Someone actually thought it was a good idea.
I could not find the whole show, but from what I can tell no one pushed back. Host Tony Reali sort of tried to, but did not make it obvious.
Reali even mentioned China’s genocide and human rights abuses in the country against the Uyghurs and everything they’ve done to Tibet before going to Adande.
I transcribed it for you guys:
J.A. ADANDE: Who are we to criticize China’s human rights records when we have ongoing attacks by the agents of the state against unarmed citizens and we’ve got assaults on the voting rights of our people of color in various states in this country so sports, I think it is possible and it is necessary more than ever to just shut everything out if you are to enjoy the actual games themselves.
TONY REALI: I appreciate everything you just said there…Just to follow up here, specifically on China here, we’re talking about human rights violations, we’re talking about genocide and the IOC chose China. Specifically said yes we will go there while maintaining they are for human rights and things of that nature and sports can conquer that. How do you view it?
J.A. ADANDE: Well, again, where can you choose that’s free? And look at some of the other recent hosts of the game including Russia and some other recent places. It’s very hard to find a country that isn’t problematic when it comes to human rights including here. Remember we had athletes boycotting going to Mexico City because of the human rights issues in the United States in 1968, most notably Kareem Abdul Jabbar. I think we can bring attention to it. I think it’s notable that we did have a Uyghurs participant lighting the torch and hopefully this will be used to bring attention to it.
Yes, dude, the Chinese Communist Party totally picked a Uyghur to light the torch out of the goodness of its heart.
.@jadande talks about reconciling watching the Beijing Winter Olympics amid China's human rights crisis pic.twitter.com/mqkOygjBXV
— Around The Horn (@AroundtheHorn) February 4, 2022
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Dude thinks blacks are so pathetically stupid they don’t know how to get an ID. Lol.
He’s making an em-pathetic appeal through projection.
No can find a single person, not one has testified, that they were illegitimately denied a right to vote. On the other hand, we can find tens of thousands of students that vote in two states. Likewise New Yorkers in Florida and NY. More than 5000 MA residents voting in both MA and NH. 300K people over 123 years in AZ. can amazingly make it the polls, as can 100% of the patients at 14 residential care homes that specialize in patients with crippling dementia. All Democrats. 250K absentee voters in PA that never had ballots mailed to them…ballots that bear exactly the same scan code. Likewise in GA where a Xerox copier was allowed to vote 35K times in a single county…and on and on and on.
Probably 150 million people had their votes made pointless by Democrat fraud in the last Presidential election.
But that kind of vote denied is fine because Democrats got the result they wanted.
How much did China pay him to spout this nonsense?
Good point. His ridiculous little speech has literally been China’s blame-deflecting talking points since the COVID pandemic began.
Yep. Same thing. Same kind of thinking that concludes that any white Republican they don’t like is “worse than Hitler!”.
“Uyghur Genocide” appears to be an urban legend. It is something everyone seems to have heard of and many on the right adopt as an article of political faith but few if any have seen any hard evidence of it.
It’s not an urban legend. Stop defending persecution of people for nothing more than their ignorance.
Yes it absolutely is an urban legend and you just helped me make my point. Genocide is commonly understood a large scale politically motivated killing. While reprehensible, arbitrary detention, forced labor, and political “re-education” are NOT mass killing. Neither is ethnic persection. Thus, my orginal comment stands undisputed,
No, your original comment stands disputed.
Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide
Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
A. Killing members of the group;
B. Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
C. Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
D. Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
E. Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
By that definition both China and India are guilty of genocide against their own people (a “national” group), for “imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group” with the intent to destroy it “in part”. So is every other country that has deliberately taken measures to reduce its own population growth, even if it’s only by promoting contraception.
Thanks for the typically insane take, Milhouse. Yup. Forced abortions, forced sterilizations, and forced contraception are just the same a “promoting contraception.”
It’s only “by that definition [that] both China and India are guilty of genocide against their own people” if you have no clue that “impose” and “promote” are two entirely different words with two entirely different definitions.
Impose (verb) 1. force (something unwelcome or unfamiliar) to be accepted or put in place.
Promote (verb) 1. further the progress of (something, especially a cause, venture, or aim); support or actively encourage.
Yup. I totally see your point (rolls eyes).
White privilege…also an urban legend
Agreed. So is black and minority “oppression”, and “voter suppression.”
China’s treatment of the Uyghurs has been designated a “genocide” by the US government, making it, by definition, NOT an “urban legend” (“” an often lurid story or anecdote that is based on hearsay and widely circulated as true””)
Relying on the US government’s designation is, by definition, hearsay.
What is hearsay is that the U.S. has ever officially designated the atrocities against the Uighurs a genocide. It has not. Just like the Clinton administration never officially designated the Hutu genocide of the Tutsis a genocide until after it was over. According to all reports they knew exactly what was going in Rwanda but for political reasons they chose to turn a blind eye to it. Had they declared it a genocide then the U.S. would have been obligated to take action to stop it. Since Clinton didn’t want to take any actions that entailed political risks, then the Rwandan genocide could never “rise to the level” of a genocide until it ended.
This is an accurate summation and quote from the Wikipedia page on the Rwandan genocide:
“President Clinton has referred to the failure of the U.S. government to intervene in the genocide as one of his main foreign policy failings, saying ‘I don’t think we could have ended the violence, but I think we could have cut it down. And I regret it.'”
He didn’t regret a damned thing. Like Harry Reid and his lies about Romney not paying taxes 10 years (and no I don’t like Romney), it worked. Clinton played out the clock and then, gosh darn it, President “I feel your pain” Clinton was off the hook with a simple faked sincere expression of regret.
Xi Jinping’s butt boy President Xao Bai Dien is using the same play book. First, no matter how much evidence accrues that this is a genocide, gosh darn it, State Department lawyers just won’t be able to see it.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/02/19/china-uighurs-genocide-us-pompeo-blinken/
“State Department Lawyers Concluded Insufficient Evidence to Prove Genocide in China
Despite the Trump administration’s declaration of a genocide in Xinjiang, upheld by the Biden administration, some legal experts suspect China’s behavior may fall short of actual genocide.”
As noted genocide expert Whoopi Goldberg opined about Roman Polanski’s drugging and forcible sodomy (another area of her expertise, apparently) of a 13 year old child, it wasn’t “rape – rape.” After all, Chinatown was such a good movie the normal standard to prove rape just wasn’t sufficient to send Polanski to jail (He had already been convicted, remember, but became a fugitive when it became obvious that the judge wasn’t going to accept the plea deal that spares celebrity rapists like Polanski, Epstein, and Weinstein prison that they dad come to expect).
Nope. What Polanski did in that hot tub might have been sufficient to land a Canadian truck driver in prison for 25 years for rape. But certainly not an artiste! Nope, we need according to noted genocide expert and no doubt ardent feminist Whoopi Goldberg we need the more stringent rape – rape standard. Perhaps, given the outstanding nature of Polanski’s entire oeuvre we need to meet the even more stringent rapety rape – rape maximus standard reserved for practitioners who have achieved the highest standards in the cinematic arts.
Which is pretty much Biden’s position on when China can be held accountable for genocide. Apparently he liked Chinatown as much as Whoopi. The tens of millions the CHICOMs funneled to the Biden crime family via their bagman/spit artist/employee-of-the-month on any board of directors that’s hire a crackhead Hunter Biden wasn’t bad either. But mostly it was Chinatown that made Biden an expert on Chinese culture. So he can see how it’s a genocide from our perspective, sure. But it’s important to see it from Xi’s perspective, too (lest the money stop flowing).
https://nypost.com/2021/02/17/biden-says-uighur-genocide-is-part-of-chinas-different-norms/
“Biden dismisses Uighur genocide as part of China’s ‘different norms’
President Biden is dismissing the genocide against the Uighur population in China, dubbing the mass internment a “different norm” — despite the State Department this month responding to “atrocities” in the camps, following reports of systemic rape and torture.
The commander-in-chief made the remarks after being asked during his CNN town hall Tuesday evening about his recent conversation with his Chinese counterpart, starting his response by relaying Xi’s justification for the abuses.
‘If you know anything about Chinese history, it has always been, the time when China has been victimized by the outer world is when they haven’t been unified at home,’ Biden began. ‘So the central — well, vastly overstated — the central principle of Xi Jinping is that there must be a united, tightly controlled China. And he uses his rationale for the things he does based on that.’”
I love the rationale here. China conquered non-Han ethnic minorities and forced them to become part of China. That didn’t victimize anybody. But, the poor crybullies in Beijing can only protect themselves from being victimized by “outer world” is to commit brutal atrocities against those conquered non-Han minorities.
Millions of Tibetans, which declared its independence from China in 1913 and remained independent until the CHICOM army invaded in 1950, were unavailable to comment on whether China itself constitutes the “outer world” that they themselves needed to protect against.
But I’m sure those murdered and oppressed by the CHICOMs would agree with noted Sinologist “Beijing Joe” Biden triumphantly declares, “Norms restored!”
While I despise many of the actions of the US and the UK (and others) the actions of China against the Uyghur are relatively and in absolute terms reprehensible.
I find Islam a disgusting so-call religion based on lies and promoted by manipulative malicious psychopaths. That doesn’t excuse arbitrary persecution of the people manipulated into following it.
As for pretending China’s actions are irrelevant due to alleged voting rights violations in the US that’s just as reprehensible as China’s actions themselves. There are no material voting rights violations in the US against ‘people of color’, the voting rights violations in the US disenfranchise people of all skin colours in equal measure.
“J.A. Adande compares China committing genocide against Uyghurs to US voting laws”
Well. let’s see. What can I compare J.A Agande to?
1. The world record holder for telling the biggest lie?
2. A patient in mental asylum?
3. A complete Farking Jackass?
4. A useful tool for Democrats?
“Who are we to criticize China’s human rights records when we have ongoing attacks by the agents of the state against unarmed citizens and we’ve got assaults on the voting rights of our people of color in various states in this country.”
We are people you moron, who do not want to see concentration camps full of our people. We do not want to see “certain” people having their organs harvested for profit. We do not want to live under a evil totalitarian regime in the United States. We do not want to be Communists.
To equate The CCP’s human rights atrocities to asking someone to present a drivers license to vote is the ultimate inanity.
Again, the left in this world is insane and they are to be rediculed and defeated.
Middle School students are taught about how the Nazis tricked the world in the 1936 Olympics with a couple of Jews.
The reporters in other words have exactly the education to say they know exactly what the Chinese Government is doing but are complicit.
Holocaust education doesn’t work if the person being educated is an irredeemably evil thing.
Murdering you for whatever reasons v. failing to show an ID to be able to vote,
Yeah, I can see the equivalence.
Good point!!
Slavery, diversity, and abortion have precedents.
Wonder if Adande was Chinese, would he EVER go on Chinese TV and criticize the CCP?
This commie is an affirmative action simpleton. Ask him who is father is.
Ok then. Nice to know that’s the new standard; unless someone is without sin they are unworthy of pointing out the faults of others. I always understand that to be a parable that applied to the spiritual v the temporal but hey if this guy says it it must be true!
That is great news. Now the d/prog will magically just go sit in the corner and STFU. This guy will certainly be on hand to remind everyone right? No way he would refuse his clear duty as the self appointed moral arbiter and take a day off when it time to tell Antifa or BLM the same message. Can’t wait to observe him in action! Maybe he could post some of the exciting footage when he did this in 2020? Wait, you mean he didn’t…it’s almost as if he is some kind of fraudulent hustler, selective in his outrage.
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When something goes woke let it go broke The comparison made by this so called analyst is odiously wrong
I’m really trying hard to understand what attacks there are on “people of color” voting. I’ve been voting since 1980. I don’t ever remember any attacks.
There is not enough Preparation H in the world to cure these rectums.
I’ve been voting for nearly 50 years, I’ve voted in NY, FL and GA. I’ve had to show an ID every single time.
Not in NY you didn’t. Not unless you’ve only voted there once, and that one time was very recent. It is illegal for a poll worker to ask any voter for ID unless their name is marked “ID REQ” in the book. And I’ve never seen anyone with that notation. Supposedly it’s for first-time voters who didn’t supply ID when registering, and it’s fairly recent, but I’ve never seen it.
Is there any doubt that this dullard, J.A. Adande, would not be the Director of Sports Journalism at Northwestern University, but for Affirmative Action and “diversity”? Now he can inculcate an untold number of sports “journalists” with his wokeism.
they spelled it wrong. In his case it should be analist not analyst.
When you’ve been exposed as Xi Jinping’s castrated prison bitch, willing to whore yourself out for CCP cash, then naturally you have to look the other way at his atrocities.
But perhaps the castrati don’t like being exposed as the whores they are. Perhaps you want to pretend you’re still a man. What do you do? Draw a false equivalency between genocide and voter ID. Then in complete safety you can boldly denounce voter ID laws as crimes against humanity just as bad as the Chinese genocide* against the Uighurs and other minorities in China.
Of course if you were to go on Chinese TV and denounce the actual genocide you’d be locked up. So the safe way to pretend to be brave is to denounce America on American TV. Think of a yapping, barking, growling Yorkie terrier threatening you from the safety of some old lady’s locked Buick.
That’s who this Adande guy is. A yapping, barking, growling Yorkie pretending to be a Rottweiler from a position of complete safety. He’d never have the balls to confront real evil, because real evil will break the window, reach in, and grab him by the scruff of the neck.
*Of course it’s genocide. Xi Jinping and the CCP has decided on the ideal Chinese citizen and Uighurs, Kazakhs, Tajiks, Tibetans, etc.; aren’t it. The ideal Chinese citizen speaks Mandarin, has no religion, is devoted to the CCP, and adopts the culture and traditions of the majority Han Chinese.
In a generation there will be no Uighurs. By June 2020 over a half million Uighur children had already been separated from their families, placed in boarding schools where they are forced to denounce Islam and learn Mandarin. And the forced sterilization, forced abortion, and forced (not “promoted for voluntary use,” Milhouse) contraception reduced Uighur births by 24 precent from 2019 to 2020 alone. This alone meets the definition of genocide; actively killing people isn’t required to meet the definition.
https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/documents/atrocity-crimes/Doc.1_Convention%20on%20the%20Prevention%20and%20Punishment%20of%20the%20Crime%20of%20Genocide.pdf
“Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of
Genocide
…Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
(e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. ..”
Note the word “imposing” in the definition, Milhouse? Gee, I wonder why they didn’t decide to use the words “merely promoting.”
It is beyond dispute that China is committing the atrocities from b through e against the Uighurs. Too many bodies have investigated this, too many witnesses have survived, to deny this genocide. I realize some people here may be insistent that this is just an urban legend but that’s being deliberately obtuse at this point. And remember, taking just one of the listed actions constitutes genocide per the convention.
But for those who won’t be satisfied unless the Chinese are also committing atrocity (a) “killing members of the group;” congrats. Evidence is in that they’re doing exactly that.
https://nypost.com/2019/06/23/the-ugly-truth-about-chinas-organ-harvesting/
“The verdict is in: On June 17, the China Tribunal announced its finding that China’s Communist regime has for two decades practiced systematic, forced organ removal from prisoners of conscience, mainly Falun Gong practitioners and Muslims.
The independent, London-based panel of international legal and medical experts was led by Sir Geoffrey Nice, who also headed the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia.
After unwilling donors are executed, the tribunal found, their organs are sold to Chinese citizens or foreign “transplant tourists.” Before 2015, China, whose Confucian value system considers it important to keep the body intact after death, had no voluntary organ-transplant system. Yet hospitals perform some 60,000 to 90,000 transplant surgeries each year.
Chinese hospitals promise that they can deliver hearts, livers, kidneys and corneas of matching blood type and size in two weeks. The surgeries can be scheduled in advance, which suggests hospitals know exactly when the “donors” are going to die. By contrast, America has a highly developed voluntary organ-donation system, and recipients typically have to wait hundreds of days.
According to human-rights researchers, Chinese prison authorities regularly subject detained Falun Gong practitioners to medical exams to determine the health of their organs (even as they routinely torture these same prisoners). Detained Uighur Muslims report similar medical examinations.
The tribunal also heard from Chinese medical personnel who have defected from the regime. They warned Western governments and medical practitioners of this ongoing atrocity.
It wasn’t easy. One researcher likened his work to examining the scene following a nuclear explosion. Chinese government agencies and hospitals never provide honest numbers, so investigators have to make inferences from evidence such as hospital-renovation notices, patient turnover rates and medical research papers to estimate how many transplants are performed at each hospital.
Beijing deletes all traces of evidence online, making preservation of available records vitally important to rights researchers…”
The London-based tribunal is actually called “The Uighur Tribunal,” not “The China Trubunal” as the NY Post mistakenly refers to it. It isn’t investigating China as a whole but atrocities against ethnic and religious minorities with its main focus on the Uighurs. Now, it has hedged its bets finding that there is no evidence of mass killings of Uighurs in Xinjiang province where the concentration camps are located. That’s a very artfully written statement. But it’s also irrelevant; the international convention doesn’t require evidence of mass killing in a particular province. Simply evidence the government is “killing members of the group.” Yes, they are. The tribunal’s findings are that they are singling out two groups to be executed and their organs harvested. The Falun Gong and Muslim minorities at the rate of 60,000 to 90,000 prisoners per year. This is just an estimate as the CHICOMs lie. It’s probably on the low side, but even so that’s an average of 75,000 people per year. Since it’s been going on for two decades that’s 1.5 million prisoners killed for the crime of belonging to particular religious or ethnic groups.
Not enough for you?
I wasn’t just referring to this Andade guy as being exposed as Xi Jinping’s willing castrated prison bitch. I was referring to the entire infotainment industry. That would be everyone in professional sports, the media, social media, Hollywood, and all their sponsors. They’re addicted to CCP cash like a heroin addict in prison. And a heroin addict in prison will do ANYTHING for a fix, dignity and self-respect be damned.
But like a heroin addict ex-con, it isn’t like the heroin addict wants the world to know just how he degraded himself in prison to maintain his habit after he’s released. So LeBron James, Andade, the executives at Coca Cola, et al, try to pretend they survived prison (China) by being tough instead of bending over and taking the “Covid anal swab.” So all of a sudden # Black Lives Matter and voter ID is worse than slave labor.
Because of course their heroin is the money made on the backs of those slave laborers. So of course voted ID has to be worse than that. So stunning, so brave.
My comment is directed at Mary Chastain when she commented that she didn’t want to boycott the athletes who’ve worked so hard to arrive at the Olympics.
I wholeheartedly and respectfully disagree
We are all born with various gifts and talents, but those gifts do not, should not supersede our God give. Sense of right and wrong, good and evil.
I imagine myself if I were one of these athletes, but was asked to perform where I KNEW human beings were being tortured, imprisoned, and murdered I could never in good conscience participate. I’d know forever, that even if I medaled it would be covered in blood.
Yeah! And how about 1857 (Dred Scott)! And 1692 (Salem Witch Trials)! And 1492 (Columbus knowingly imported measles virus)! And that’s just the beginning!
—This incident demonstrates yet again why nobody should ever pay attention to sports commentators pontificating about politics.