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CDC Won’t Budge on Mask Guidance Despite Science Saying Cloth Masks Don’t Work

CDC Won’t Budge on Mask Guidance Despite Science Saying Cloth Masks Don’t Work

If the CDC makes changes they’ll likely force us to wear N95 or K95 masks.

Follow the science, you guys. That’s what we’ve heard for over two years.

EXCEPT when our betters say otherwise.

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky refuses to change her COVID mask guidance despite a study and other medical people saying the cloth masks do not work:

“[The] CDC continues to recommend that any mask is better than no mask and we do encourage all Americans to wear a well-fitting mask to protect themselves and prevent the spread of COVID-19. And, the recommendation is not going to change,” she told reporters during the White House COVID-19 response team briefing.

“Maybe I’ll just note that we are preparing an update to the information on our mask website to best reflect the options that are available to people, as you note, and the different levels of protection different masks provide. And, we want to provide Americans [with] the best and most updated information to choose what mask is going to be right for them,” she added.

Yeah, the update will likely force us to wear N95 or K95 masks (all probably made in China) instead of cloth masks.

Walensky told the Senate on Tuesday that “new science” told the CDC that “3.5 times increased risk of school outbreaks if you’re unmasked in schools vs. masking in schools.”

(I laughed so hard when Walensky spoke to the Senate DOUBLE-MASKED. My goodness, the virtue-signaling is pukeworthy.)

This “new science” came out in September. Walensky’s new Bible has pushed her to persuade others to force masking of children.

But David Zweig at The Atlantic (yes, The Atlantic!) tore apart the study because it used “dubious research” filled with red flags:

However, in December, this study came under fire by The Atlantic, who criticized several flaws within the methodology which, among other things, included 40 “virtual learning academies,” roughly 20 preschools and roughly 90 “vocational programs associated with otherwise-listed schools.”

“Still, the publication and agency endorsement of the Arizona study is especially demoralizing,” Zweig wrote. “How did research with so many obvious flaws make its way through all the layers of internal technical review? And why was it promoted so aggressively by the agency’s director? I reached out to Walensky’s office to ask about the study, noting its evident limitations and outlier result. How, if at all, does this research figure into the agency’s continuing guidance for schools around the country? The CDC did not respond to my inquiries.”

CNN medical analyst Dr. Leanna Wen admitted cloth masks do not work against Omicron. But like Walensky she is going the N95 route.

Leslie wrote about The Atlantic pushing articles going against COVID policies in December. One admitted that “many, if not most, Americans are leading their lives as if COVID is over, and they have been for a long while.”

Like us in Oklahoma! I love shopping and attending Mass without a mask. We never had a state mask mandate. The OKC mayor implemented one for a few months, but it wasn’t really enforced. He tried to enforce a curfew, but we rebelled and a judge told him no.

Leslie admitted the changes in the left-wing media and others comes from dismal polling for the Democrats, not science.

But hey, everyone should read and listen to Leslie! I lost count of her “I told you so” posts.

For instance, Leslie said in 2020 that cloth masks would not work.

Leslie also said N95 masks will likely not work because it “is meant for an occupational setting, with fit-testing to ensure a good seal.” Leslie pointed out a blog on the CDC website that warns of the risks of long-term wearing of the N95 masks.

Imagine forcing kids to wear this mask during an eight hour school day: “When HCWs [healthcare workers] are working longer hours without a break while continuously wearing an N95 FFR, blood CO2 levels may increase past the 1-hour mark, which could have a significant physiological effect on the wearer.”


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Colonel Travis | January 12, 2022 at 7:09 pm

Parts of Germany have been under a N95 mandate for a while. Those areas have performed no better than any other in that country.

I don’t know why people keep falling for this mask nonsense. All you have to do is look at what’s happened the past 2 years. They have not stopped or slowed community spread whatsoever.

    It’s because they are npc’s. They got their programming and they will follow it.

    Tucker Carlson hits the nail on the head when he calls them “obedience masks.”

    That’s what they’re for…. to train you to obey. The damage being done to children in their formative years is incalculable.

    And the progs wear them as a badge of honor; in honor of their subservience to Big Daddy Gubmint. They are the descendants of The Torries who wanted to suck The King’s dick during the Revolutionary War period. They are genetically predisposed to servitude… liberty scares the shit out of them.

    sringland in reply to Colonel Travis. | January 13, 2022 at 4:42 pm

    When under the spell of the Mass Formation Psychosis, facts don’t matter.

Covid is the Leftist Demi-god, they worship it, don’t want to see it leave and masks are it’s religious symbol your a believer.

The CDC epitomizes the old saying, “The definition of insanity is doing the same s**t over and over and over again in the forlorn hope you’ll get a different result.”

    TX-rifraph in reply to MarkJ. | January 13, 2022 at 6:19 am

    They are getting their desired result – obedience. The wearing of a mask is an indicator that the person has surrendered to the psychological manipulation.

Blah Blah. Blah.

Omicron–or whatever the current cold virus is–will be done in a few weeks.

She’s a corrupt f–king idiot, and she fits right in with Biden.

Speaking of Biden, they’re building a WALL around the White House!

What are they preparing for?????????????????????

    Did not castles have walls? Did not the Kremlin have a wall? Tyrants want the people to fear the them but tyrants always fear the people do they not?

IMO, the ‘any mask’ doctrine is driven from three factors:
1. Not enough N95 on hand
2. Fear of too much deviation and being called out from the right
3. Risk of alienating/disappointing the true believing, risk adverse Karen on the left who elevated mask compliance to a religious fervor.

The first is a practical consideration, but this was the same considering, lack of supply, that we faced in early 2020 when they told us not to wear masks; the noble lie to preserve limited supply for healthcare workers. There is zero excuse two years in for not having an adequate supply.

The second and third points are pure politics. Any change on mask guidance will be labeled exactly what it is; a flip flop. The data re mask efficacy hasn’t changed, if anything additional data confirms the uselessness of cloth and surgical mask v airborne virus transmission. The Karen meanwhile has bought into masking as proof of virtue and adherence to science. Reversing course will demonstrate the folly and unreasonable conduct of the Karen. These Karens are politically powerful; they vote, they donate campaign money, they have an online presence, they have serious influence in d/prog circles that can’t be be overlooked.

    randian in reply to CommoChief. | January 13, 2022 at 12:04 am

    the noble lie to preserve limited supply for healthcare workers

    That isn’t why Fauci told that lie. His claimed rationalization was in my opinion a lie. The real reason he said that was he needed to justify his reversal on masks even though data published in May 2020 by CDC itself supported his original no-mask stance. He conveniently utters a smaller lie, that he was worried about PPE supplies, to cover for the bigger lie, that masks work.

      CommoChief in reply to randian. | January 14, 2022 at 12:48 pm

      It’s not solely about Fauchi. It’s about every single person in a position to know better but who made a choice to remain silent and allow the Covid mania to take root and grow. The fact is the medical system, public health in particular along with uninformed and refusal to be informed media have blown any credibility they may have had.

      The next virus and there will be one, how many people, outside the true believing Covid Karen types will allow public policy to be made by experts? I suspect that a great many people are not going to be passive and put their faith in the experts based upon their poor performance in Covid. Certainly not to the extent that the public allows in Spring 2020.

      If that costs lives because the experts and leaders failed so badly and refuse to admit and atone for every single bad decision then those future deaths will be on the hands of the experts.

nordic_prince | January 12, 2022 at 9:43 pm

So damn stupid on so many levels. My lucky rabbit’s foot is just as effective in preventing viral transmission as these face diapers.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair | January 12, 2022 at 9:51 pm

Yeah, the update will likely force us to wear N95 or K95 masks (all probably made in China) instead of cloth masks.

And they’re going to ban beards …. except on women trannies pretending to be guys. Female trannies are encouraged to grow beards, and to spit a lot, too, since they believe that spitting is some sort of “guy” thing that will help the charade. Everyone else will be arrested and/or massively fined for such dangerous actions.

It has been the politicians telling the scientists what to say from the very beginning. Lysenko lives.

“How did research with so many obvious flaws make its way through all the layers of internal technical review?”

I know! I know!

Ask the author of “To boldly go where no one has gone before in organ transplantation: Changes in mating behavior and buffalo burger eating preferences of giant forest ants after successful brain transplant from American cockroaches.”

You can find it here, along with other classics such as “Decoupling Evolutionary Programming from Gigabit Switches in Neural Networks,” and “Wireless, amphibious theory for reinforcement learning.”

Despite claims of “peer review,” these papers are never read by a single human being. At the “better” journals, they have a tool run over them that purports to detect whether they are the product of SciGen, a joke program written in 2005 by MIT students to generate nonsense scientific papers. Many are detected.

The entire scam is outlined in an article (well worth reading): “436 Randomly Generated ‘Peer Reviewed’ Papers Published by Springer Nature.”

according to an interesting essay by Prof Igor Pak “publisher’s contracts with [university] libraries require them to deliver a certain number of pages each year“. What’s in those pages? The editors don’t care because the libraries pay regardless. The librarians don’t care because the universities pay. The universities don’t care because the students and granting bodies pay. The students and granting bodies don’t care because the government pays. The government doesn’t care because the citizens pay, and the citizens DO care – when they find out about this stuff – but generally can’t do anything about it because they’re forced to pay through taxes, student loan laws and a (socially engineered) culture in which people are told they must have a degree or else they won’t be able to get a professional job…

From a linked article by the same author:

Often these papers originate in China, where the CCP has mandated that every single medical doctor must publish research papers to get promoted (i.e. in their non-existent spare time). If you’re new to this topic, my previous article on Photoshopped images and impossible numbers in scientific papers provides some background along with an entertaining begging letter from a Chinese doctor who got busted.

The humor stops when you realize that idiots like Rachel Walensky relies on garbage like this to make life-altering decisions to your life on your behalf. The federal clown show — using the output of a joke program to rule you.

Viable legal indemnity. Em-pathetic appeal. That said, when in Rome… but be certain to follow the science, not cargo cult, and change your portable petri dish qua viral collector.

The masks are virtue-signaling stage props serving as alleged evidence of one’s self-perceived and fallacious sense of moral superiority, and, aiding as a fear-mongering and hysteria-mongering device to keep the populace cowed and submissive; of course the Dhimmi-crats won’t give them up.

Let the totalitarian, Dhimmi-crat narcissists and apparatchiks continue to wear their stupid muzzles, if they wish. The rest of us want to live our lives and see human faces and expressions, again, and, not breathe in our own carbon dioxide exhalations.

cdc is a total joke. TO MUCH POLI-TICKS involved. DEFUND THEM & the atf, they all have outgrown their BREECHES….IMO!

Science cloth maks stop nothing smaller than 3 microns. Wu Flu 1 micron.

I am waiting for the CDC to recommend placing plastic bags over our heads because “scientific studies” that they are effective in preventing virus infections (but remember, plastic bags are not a toy.)

    Don’t forget the fit-testing to ensure a good seal.

    I hear that duct tape works well.

    DaveGinOly in reply to Pasadena Phil. | January 13, 2022 at 5:08 pm

    Back in the early ’80s, when Reinhold Messner was making the first ascents of 8,000 meter peaks without supplemental oxygen (which were being referred to as “oxygenless ascents”), some friends and I made a winter ascent of Mt. Washington (New Hampshire). At the summit, we took a group photo of ourselves with plastic bags over our heads, celebrating the first “oxygenless ascent” of the peak.

This isn’t about science of public health or anything of that nature. It’s about a group of incompetent totalitarians who don’t want to give up control under any circumstances.

The trick being implemented here is that the N95 mask is better than surgical masks, which are, in turn, better than cloth masks. But cloth masks are essentially useless, so being “twice as effective” as useless still leave us with something little more than useless. They always speak in relative terms (“In this state, pediatric hospitalizations for COVID have quadrupled in the last two weeks” but fail to tell you the “surge” is from 2 to 8 cases) when the actual numbers are too weak to be sufficiently alarming or encouraging, depending on whether they’re using the stick or the carrot on any particular day.

They use the same trick when discussing efficacy of the vaccines. The Pfizer vax, for instance, was initially claimed (in their clinical trials) to be 97% effective in preventing deaths. But this is a relative improvement in survival. At the time, Pfizer worked with an apparent COVID IFR of 0.14%. Their vax “lowered” the IFR to 0.0042%. In other words, the survival rate was changed from 99.86% to 99.996%, an “improvement” of seventeen one hundredths of one percent. This slight improvement the (already extremely high) survival rate is what mandatory vaccination is about? I find that hardly credible.

I read the study used as justification for the first CDC mask recommendation. About 3/4ths of the way through the report it addressed the issue of healthy people wearing masks and said there was no justification for requiring heathy who were not treating sick people to wear mask other than to keep masks wearers from being stigmatized. That killed any credibility the CDC had in my eyes.

Masks are used in the hospital to slow the spread of bacteria, which they are effective at. They are not used, and never have been, to slow the transmission of an airborne virus. The don’t, they can’t. To filter a virus requires more power than a human being has. You would have to carry the air pumping machine with you and wear a perfectly fitted mask.

Masks of any grade are useless unless they are powered by something other than human lungs.

If you could never believe anyone who is a ‘doctor’ can be stupid and corrupt, just look at Wallensky and Fauci.