Manchin: White House Staff’s ‘Inexcusable’ Behavior Broke Down BBB Talks
Bernie Sanders: Bring it to the floor so Manchin can vote no in front of everyone. Manchin: BRING IT.
Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) blamed the White House staff for the breakdown in talks about the Build Back Better (BBB) bill:
Manchin made the comments during an interview on West Virginia MetroNews radio, after telling Fox News on Sunday he would not be able to vote for the $1.75 trillion Build Back Better bill.
Manchin said he would not say “the real reason” talks failed.
But when asked what that was, he said: “The bottom line is … it’s staff. It’s staff purely. … It’s not the president. It’s staff. And they drove some things and put some things out that were absolutely inexcusable.”
Manchin did not provide specifics, but I’m thinking he meant Psaki’s statement on Sunday.
Manchin held his ground:
“They figured, ‘Surely to God we can move one person. Surely, we can badger and beat one person up. Surely we can get enough protesters to make that person uncomfortable enough they’ll just say, ‘Okay, I’ll vote for anything just quit.’”
“Guess what?” Manchin said Monday. “I’m from West Virginia. I’m not from where they’re from where you can beat the living crap out and people and they’ll be submissive.”
The U.S. Senate will vote on the proposed Build Back Better plan in January, @Sen_Joemanchin joins @HoppyKercheval to give his thoughts on why he is opposed to the act. WATCH: https://t.co/4YFIkFXZE3 pic.twitter.com/41XZ2KMg11
— MetroNews (@WVMetroNews) December 20, 2021
Democrats and the left exploded when Manchin announced on Fox News Sunday he would not support the bill because he never spoke to Biden.
Well, a Manchin aide supposedly called the White House before the appearance. The administration could not reach Manchin before it either.
Plus, Manchin has not budged. Yes, he has tried to negotiate but we all knew from the beginning he would only support a certain amount. He repeated to Schumer he only wanted to support a $1.5 trillion bill or a $1.75 trillion if it had “improved tax reform elements.”
LOL. Socialist Bernie Sanders told Schumer to bring the bill to the floor so Manchin could vote no in front of the whole world.
Schumer said: “Senators should be aware that the Senate will, in fact, consider the Build Back Better Act, very early in the new year so that every Member of this body has the opportunity to make their position known on the Senate floor, not just on television.”
Manchin’s response? BRING IT: “Please put it on the floor. Maybe it will sink in that we have to look in a different direction than this far-reaching social agenda.”
DYING.
Biden cannot trim too much because the far-leftists in the House won’t support a bill without their social crap.
Progressive Caucus Chair Pramila Jayapal: “It is abundantly clear that we cannot trust what Sen. Manchin says. No one should think that we are going to be satisfied with an even smaller package that leaves people behind or refuses to tackle critical issues like climate change.”
Biden needs to lean on his executive authority now. He has been delaying and underutilizing it so far. There is an enormous amount he can do on climate, student debt, immigration, cannabis, health care, and more.
Time is running out – we need to move and use alternative paths.
— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) December 20, 2021
Let’s be clear: Manchin’s excuse is bullshit. The people of West Virginia would directly benefit from childcare, pre-Medicare expansion, and long term care, just like Minnesotans.
This is exactly what we warned would happen if we separated Build Back Better from infrastructure. https://t.co/dhzcSk0qUV
— Ilhan Omar (@IlhanMN) December 19, 2021
Pressley:
"The Senate must return to session immediately and bring this historic and transformational bill to a vote so Senator Manchin—and every Republican who has opposed it from the very beginning—can demonstrate, on the record, the contempt they have for their constituents" pic.twitter.com/AoTNyaXuCO
— Andrew Solender (@AndrewSolender) December 19, 2021
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The radicals really have a fantasy of a Senate vote that renders BBB DOA and then , as in so many prior instances the Manhchurian President enacting its provisions by unconstitutional executive orders.
Oh, it’s not a fantasy. President Pen and Phone did exactly the same thing, and it took four years of Trump to unlock so many of the shackles placed on businesses. He inherited a recovery and turned it into a sluggish climb, where Biden is inheriting a booming recovery and smothering it into stagflation. Carter 2.0
I’ve never watched C-SPAN in my life, but that vote will be Must See TV!
Bravo Manchin!!!
I’m old enough to remember the Health Care Security Act defeated by a heavy conservative stance in 1993. Said at that time, ” there were not enough Democratic Senators behind a single proposal to pass a bill, (in a Democrat controlled Senate) let alone stop a filibuster.”
A few weeks later, Dem. Senate Majority Leader George J. Mitchell announced that his compromise plan was dead. The defeat was embarrassing for the administration and as a result of Republicans who contributed to the debate that Hillary Clinton’s HCSA was another “big-government liberal” program.
Aaah….Those were Good Times
from AOC:
“Biden needs to lean on his executive authority now. He has been delaying and underutilizing it so far. There is an enormous amount he can do on climate, student debt, immigration, cannabis, health care, and more.
Time is running out – we need to move and use alternative paths.”
oh, the holy hell she would be raising if Trump had “leaned on his executive authority….”
This from someone who decried every Executive Order Trump signed as an overreach and abuse of authority. That executive authority was never meant to be used as a work-around to do things they can’t get through Congress.
TRANSLATION: “As a liberal Democrat who only occasionally pretends to be a centrist Democrat, my real objection to the bill was less policy-centric and more personality-centric Had Biden not employed snot-nosed brats who didn’t know how to properly bribe and cajole Senators, Biden would have signed his bill already.”
Joe Manchin has always been about Joe Manchin. Too many people have forgotten that he voted to Impeach and REMOVE Trump…TWICE. This guy is a POS and no one should forget it. I still think they’ll end up passing quite a few of the biggest elements of BBB…with Manchin’s help.
And probably Mconnell’s help. And Romney’s. And Murkowski’s. And Collins’. Etc.
Oh please, Manchin might not be voting for the disaster known as Build Back Better but I’m sure when the do actually bring it to a vote there will be just enough RINOs willing to “reach across the aisle” to pass the monstrosity of a bill. Guaranteed.
It will pass 52-48 with Romney, Collins, and Murkowski providing the assist.
Should Romney, Collins, and Murkowski provide the assist, all hell will break loose.
How so? Not being mean here, I do mean: how so. Collins and Murkowski have been in office for ages and aren’t going anywhere. Utah votes religion to Romney is there forever.
I’m sure McConnell views this as an opportunity to advance his RINO/GOPe anti-Trump agenda.
At least Cassidy and Manchin will cancel each other out.
Damn. Hoppy Kercheval is still doing news? He was at it when I was in journalism school at WVU back in the late ’70s.
Speaking of which, Hoppy has to be near his late 70s.
And still uses the name “Hoppy.”
Maybe Hobble?
Let’s be clear.
BBB is happening
Manchin isn’t voting no
He’s just saying $1.5 to $1.8 trillion in corrupt welfare state giveaways instead of $3.5 trillion
That’s a Pyrrhic victory, more victories like this and the republic will be lost.
It is a fascinating debate between huge deficits vs wicked huge deficits.
Which is exactly what I said at the start of this year.
Manchin and Sinema were going to make a big deal and talk a whole bunch of tough bullshit and then were going to spend JUST $3 trillion instead of $5 trillion.
REMEMBER. They ALREADY PASSED (with the RINO GOPe assist) the $1.5 trillion crap. This is ON TOP of that.
They were always going to ‘negotiate’ it down to an only-slightly-less-insane amount and then act like they cured fucking cancer for ONLY spending an additional $1.5 trillion.
The chocolate ration has been increased from 30 grams to 20 grams.
If they bring it to a vote, I wouldn’t be surprised to see a quick of Quisling “Republicans” help it pass.
I don’t see this dying the death it deserves.
I hear Manchin saying that if the White House starts a charm offensive on him he’ll cave. He’s ready to deal if they treat him right.
The media is really using fatalistic language. The bill is ‘dead, DOA, killed’
because Biden isn’t allowed to pass legislation in 2022?
I didn’t think it possible that the Democrats could do less with control of Congress and the WH than the GOP did under Trump, but here we are.
I guess that’s the good news. It could be worse! They could have taken Manchin’s $1.5 trillion 2 months ago and passed a slew of other awful things … instead it will take a little more time to get there …
At this point the bill is simply something the dems are thinking they can use during election season to pretend people who vote against it are evil. They are hoping it will never pass because it serves as only a campaign tool.
Even though the r establishment have a habit of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory this is likely not going to play out that way. It’s a bit counterintuitive but if the r had a Senate majority then McConnell would be able to negotiate from a position of strength and demand more goodies and carve outs to log roll enough squish r to pass it.
Since that’s not the case McConnell will take the path of least resistance within the party at least for now. He will oppose it and refuse to give away passage to Biden and the d/prog on this until he and his squish r allies/minions can extract maximum gains for their interests. Also keep in mind that there are several small State and Red/Purple State d/prog Senators who are lukewarm if not privately opposed to bbb who have been able to hide publicly behind Manchin’s opposition.
They will pass it. All it takes is a change in Senators. The day before Manchin is set to announce a switch to (I), he is found drowned under his houseboat with concrete blocks tied to his feet, and the FBI rules it suicide. The WV State Democratic Party picks 3 real Democrats for the governor to choose from, and Manchin’s replacement votes for BBB.
The republican governor gets to decide that. And republicans hold both chambers of the Statehouse by huge margins
With Manchin being the only statewide elected democrat in WV, it’s likely that they’ll end up with a younger far more conservative replacement
Democrats lost all power there 10 years ago
Its too bad that Manchin didn’t name actual names.
Then the rest of us might know who our president really is.
Well Biden is obviously not president. Whenever he talks to the press he says things that give it away like:
I was told to call on so and so first
I was told not to do such and such
I’m not supposed to this, that and the other
i.e. I’m being controlled by somebody else. I’m just a puppet
The arrogant woke Race-Gender Marxists tried to strong arm, threaten, and intimidate the wrong guy this time.
It’s always worked before. It even works on RINOs and the GOPe. So they assumed it would work on one of their own.
They don’t know their own history (they don’t know any history, actually). Historically, Marxists and socialists eventually disagree on something major and then turn on each other and eat their own. The useful idiots fare even worse.
I have nightmare.
Schumer and McConnell trade Manchin and Murkowski and pass that POS on a party line vote with Harris kicking the tie-breaker.
No Pressley, you noxious dingbat, the contempt is for brainless harpies like you.
Has anyone heard McConnell explain why he has offered Manchin a place in the GOP? No doubt, Manchin will hit it off instantly with Collins, Romney and Murkowski, but who needs another effing RINO?
Lets see what happens as the left gives him the Trotsky treatment.