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Rittenhouse Post-Verdict Analysis Online Event – Sunday, November 21, 7 p.m. Eastern

Rittenhouse Post-Verdict Analysis Online Event – Sunday, November 21, 7 p.m. Eastern

Andrew Branca and William Jacobson will discuss the case, the politics, and the verdict. Hosted by Kemberlee Kaye.

Another major case covered live at Legal Insurrection by Andrew Branca has come to and end, with Not Guilty on all counts. We will hold an online event evaluating the case, the politics, and the verdict. REGISTER HERE. Registration closes at 5 p.m. Eastern.

SUNDAY, NOVEMBER 21, 7 p.m. Eastern

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Andrew’s analysis has been the best around, once again. You remember the praise from Don West about the Zimmerman trial:

Andrew also picked up a nice shout out from Megyn Kelly on her Sirius radio show and podcast:

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Comments

Hearty congratulations to Andrew for the first-rate coverage and analysis! And many thanks to Bill for the reliable support!

Short of checking my phone every two minutes, is there a way to get a verdict alert so I can turned it before they read it?

    The Friendly Grizzly in reply to traderjoe91. | November 14, 2021 at 9:41 pm

    A good question. As of about 12 noon tomorrow, I will be dead to the world for about three hours during surgery. I’d like to see a text or something on my phone when I come to get out of the hospital.

      Hoping all goes well with your surgery.

        thad_the_man in reply to UserP. | November 15, 2021 at 1:59 am

        Ditto.

        The Friendly Grizzly in reply to UserP. | November 15, 2021 at 11:50 pm

        I won’t know how successful at all is until I get the biopsy results back. But, after a delay waiting for one of the surgeons to arrive from an emergency procedure he was doing, everything seem to have gone smoothly. The only problem I had is I normally recover from anesthesia quickly. I was still gaga three hours after I woke up in recovery. It was quite a procedure, and the next weeks work was explain to me and it’s not exactly going to be a walk in the park. But, I’m holding good thoughts. Depending upon what the biopsy shows is how much more work there will be. They’re going to do a type of skin graft on me called a fold I think that’s the name of it. For those that might be medically curious, take a look at the work that was done by a doctor McIndoe in England during World War II. He did this very strange type of skin graft on brown burnt Royal Air Force pilots. Quite a procedure! Forgive any of the strange days that you see in my text here, but I’m using speech to text. I can barely hold anything with the right hand, but that’s to be expected. Thank each and everyone of you that Mike might be or is concerned about my situation. The moral support is great

      Colonel Travis in reply to The Friendly Grizzly. | November 14, 2021 at 11:17 pm

      Wish you the best tomorrow

      Good luck tomorrow , Griz

      Hope you’re as good as new when it’s done and over

        The Friendly Grizzly in reply to murkyv. | November 15, 2021 at 5:46 am

        To Murky and the rest of the gang: This will be the first of two surgeries. I am really hoping for the best, so thank you all for your good wishes.

    thad_the_man in reply to traderjoe91. | November 15, 2021 at 1:58 am

    Unless the jur5y returns a verdict in less then 5-10 minutes, the won’t be announced for at least 1/2 hour after they return. More likely 1-2 hours.

    So check every half hour.

Nothing but praise for Mr Branca’s coverage, thorough, detailed and refreshing.

Having taken several of Mr. Branca’s “Law Of Self Defense” classes (and read his book of the same title many times) it is most gratifying to see him finally getting widespread national recognition for his expertise. Full credit and thanks, LI, for bringing him onboard at an early day.

CuriousJustice | November 16, 2021 at 3:48 am

There is an error, in my view, in the provocation instruction, As read by the judge in court, the following was included in the provocation instruction:

However, if the attack which follows causes the person reasonably to believe that he or she is in imminent danger of death or great bodily harm, he or she may lawfully act in self-defense. But the person may not use or threaten force intended or likely to cause death unless he or she reasonably believes he or she has exhausted every other reasonable
means to escape from or otherwise avoid death or great bodily harm.

But the following was not included:

A person who provokes an attack may regain the right to use or threaten force if the person in good faith withdraws from the fight and gives adequate notice of the withdrawal to his assailant.

This excluded instruction derives from this statute:

939.48(2)(b) The privilege lost by provocation may be regained if the actor in good faith withdraws from the fight and gives adequate notice thereof to his or her assailant.

While the instruction as written may appear to be ambiguous as to whether it covers deadly force, the statute that it explains is clear that the full privilege is regained. Therefore, the second criteria by which self-defense may be regained should’ve been included in the jury instructions.

AnAdultInDiapers | November 16, 2021 at 7:35 am

Prior to the verdict, I’d like to add my thanks to Andrew for his excellent coverage, and also recognise that he’s been brave enough to state his view of whether the charges against Rittenhouse have been proven or not.

There is much about this trial that has caused discomfort, strong differences in views and disagreements on the performance of the four lawyers and the judge. Throughout it all we’ve had clarity and insight here on Legal Insurrection. Thank you.

Off topic: I’m going to use my age “for ignorance on this topic” can someone explain how I can delete my comment after it’s been submitted? thanks all

    LauraLee in reply to gran2ten. | November 16, 2021 at 11:39 pm

    I will look after I finish this message. I have to see what is on my screen from my post.

    henrybowman in reply to gran2ten. | November 19, 2021 at 8:21 pm

    You can’t edit or delete a comment on this website once submitted.
    An issue of much contention among the commenters.
    Perhaps with some extra generous contributions to LIF they will be able to afford to task the web team with making this happen.

There isn’t an option for editing nor deleting, best I can tell. I can’t tell if you know that I responded to you. I can’t tell if you respond to me. I really haven’t been able to figure out much. lol

This may have been the best thing LI every did. I was spellbound throughout the trial. What a relief it’s over.

I am curious if Grosskreutz now faces the possibility of being charged with assault. With the jury finding that Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, Grosskreutz was necessarily assaulting him before he was shot. Not that the state would be so inclined as to prosecute him, but I’m wondering if the results of this trial open that door in any way.

    diver64 in reply to bigskydoc. | November 19, 2021 at 4:52 pm

    The State, not a chance but Rittenhouse can file a charge of assault against him then go after him I would think.

    henrybowman in reply to bigskydoc. | November 19, 2021 at 8:24 pm

    I wouldn’t bother. Just as Kyle had no responsibility for knowing anything about his attackers’ beliefs about his motives, other than the objective fact that they were imminently threatening him with death or grave bodily injury, Grosskreutz could easily skate on the same argument.

    James B. Shearer in reply to bigskydoc. | November 21, 2021 at 11:02 pm

    “… With the jury finding that Rittenhouse was acting in self defense, Grosskreutz was necessarily assaulting him before he was shot. ..”

    There are two things wrong with this. First the test is whether Rittenhouse reasonably believed Grosskreutz was about to kill or seriously injure him (and also whether Rittenhouse had done anything to lose his self-defense rights). This could be true without Grosskreutz having committed a crime.

    Second the burden of proof means the jury didn’t actually find that Rittenhouse had acted in self-defense just that the state had failed to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that Rittenhouse wasn’t acting in self-defense. If the jury had to actually find beyond a reasonable that Rittenhouse was acting in self-defense this would have been a much harder case and might have had a different outcome.

    Finally as I understand it Grosskreutz has a serious lifelong impairment from being shot which makes prosecuting him look like piling on (at least to me).

Can’t tell Andrew how much I’ve learned about the inner workings of the legal system, terms, why lawyers are doing what they are doing etc with his in depth analysis. First rate stuff.

    murkyv in reply to diver64. | November 19, 2021 at 6:32 pm

    I found LI because of Mr. Brancas coverage of the Zimmerman trial

    It’s the ONLY place to go to get the truth in cases like this

Andrew! Andrew! Andrew!

And, Andrew has been a stand out panelist among a whole bunch of excellent panelists at Rekieta Law’s Youtube website.

An aside–In the comments section of the Youtube website, some of my comments were posted ever so nicely. However, my attempts to post link to an excellent Twitter analysis of the “provocation” video (a link I obtained from a comment here to one of Andrew’s brilliant summaries) were all deleted by Youtube.

Just watched the YouTube video of Andrew and Megyn Kelly shortly after the verdict was read

She was truly moved to tears reporting on it.

Gotta give her credit for her coverage, especially for having Mr. Branca sharing his time with her to spread the truth of the incident

Registered, only got an email linking back to the page to register. Never got to see it.

Will there be a way to watch the reaction if we’re unavailable at that time?

Any way to watch this now (after the fact)?

I wasn’t able to attend the event and I’ve been checking multiple times daily for an upload of it. Are there plans to upload it some time so those of us who missed it can watch it?

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