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Rep. Nadler Calls for Federal DOJ To Consider Charges Against Kyle Rittenhouse

Rep. Nadler Calls for Federal DOJ To Consider Charges Against Kyle Rittenhouse

“This heartbreaking verdict is a miscarriage of justice and sets a dangerous precedent which justifies federal review by DOJ.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HvswsAcZvc

The left’s reaction to Kyle Rittenhouse being acquitted of all charges was predictable and not particularly creative. According to them, he deserves to die, rot in hell, yadda, yadda, yadda.

But one Democrat is taking things further by calling on the Biden DOJ to consider federal charges against Rittenhouse. Rep. Jerry Nadler, who is chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, tweeted his call for a federal review just hours after the jury’s verdict was announced.

Many on the left, who so nonchalantly and callously dismiss the damage done to people and property by BLM and Antifa, support Nadler’s call for a federal investigation. It could be argued that Democrats are so accustomed to things going their way that they can’t handle it when they lose.

Nadler would be wise to step away from his emotions over the verdict and think about the repercussions of pushing the narrative that Kyle Rittenhouse was a white supremacist who violated the civil rights of his attackers. The government failed — spectacularly! — in making that case and the Kenosha jury decided what most knew all along: it was simply a case of self-defense.

Justice was served today, Dems. Deal with it.

 

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#SueJerryNadler

    REDACTED in reply to jhkrischel. | November 19, 2021 at 5:49 pm

    you got to love those NYC assholes

    The Friendly Grizzly in reply to jhkrischel. | November 19, 2021 at 5:55 pm

    Would Nadler be so quick if this had happened during the Crown Heights riots, with exactly the same conditions but with Kyle instead being, well… I don’t want to get banned here, but… instead of Kyle, it was Sammy or Milton?

      So the politicians wait until after the state jury trial acquits him of state-level criminal charges before they start whining about federal criminal and civil rights investigations. How does that NOT scream politically-motivated prosecution?

        20keto20 in reply to Idonttweet. | November 20, 2021 at 4:32 pm

        It screams it loud and clear. It also says a lot about the “integrity” of Nadler. One day, someone will be able to identify it, that is if they EVER FIND it!

        Milhouse in reply to Idonttweet. | November 20, 2021 at 11:08 pm

        No, that’s normal. It’s both normal and appropriate to wait with federal involvement until the state process is done. Of course here there’s no room for federal involvement, because he didn’t break any laws, state or federal. But in general, this is the appropriate time for the feds to get involved in a case, not earlier.

          Idonttweet in reply to Milhouse. | November 21, 2021 at 5:58 pm

          You may be right. I don’t think Garland and company will be swayed by the “didn’t break any laws” argument. I won’t be surprised if they charge him with not scratching his backside as provided by law, or some such stupidity.

      I don’t recall Nadler getting involved in the CH riot at all. Not one word. He certainly didn’t go there to see what was happening for himself, or to show solidarity with a Jewish community under attack.

      Nor did Schumer, who lives just up the road from there, less than a 10 minute drive, or 4 stops on the subway.

      You know who did come, even though he didn’t even live in NYC? Al D’amato, that’s who. And it was noticed and appreciated.

      Char Char Binks in reply to The Friendly Grizzly. | November 21, 2021 at 9:11 am

      If it would get him elected, yes, so no.

    ArmyStrong in reply to jhkrischel. | November 19, 2021 at 8:56 pm

    Nadler swore to support and defend the Constitution, but advocates for double jeopardy in Kyle’s case. This man is too stupid and dishonest to represent anyone, we can only hope the voters of NY belatedly figure it out.

      Elzorro in reply to ArmyStrong. | November 20, 2021 at 5:15 am

      He is just another Communist Shipworm in the US Ship of State. He should be dealt with accordingly.

      20keto20 in reply to ArmyStrong. | November 20, 2021 at 4:36 pm

      Ironic that those who are consistently elected by the radical leftists are the products of the Ivy League schools, elite schools and the watchers of the Fake News. When it comes to the Constitution, they wave their ignorance like a badge of honor. Look at the Impeachment “heros”–Schiff and Nadler. Schiff had to start the hearing off with a fairy tale of what he wanted to be true. He looked typically stupid at that point but knew he was safe with Nazi Nanzi in charge. Nadler stole Schiff’s thunder at the trial to no avail. Schiff should have been glad that Nadless beat him to the mike. That was just one time he was saved from looking like a fool again!

      Arminius in reply to ArmyStrong. | November 20, 2021 at 7:59 pm

      Yes, but the constitution he was swearing fealty to was the Soviet one.

      Milhouse in reply to ArmyStrong. | November 20, 2021 at 11:10 pm

      If there were any federal charges to bring, it would not be double jeopardy. So he’s not violating his oath by making this call, he’s just showing himself for the umpteenth time to be the POS we all know him to be.

        randoPerson23 in reply to Milhouse. | November 23, 2021 at 8:41 pm

        This is accurate, but it should not be. There should be a single prosecution for a single event because multiple prosecutions for the same event violate the spirit, if not the letter, of double jeopardy. The Feds could restrain themselves from choosing to prosecute following state prosecution with mere legislation given that prosecution is a voluntary act.

    Brave Sir Robbin in reply to jhkrischel. | November 19, 2021 at 9:06 pm

    When the DOJ is next in the hands of the Republicans, I suggest they file charges against Nadler. On what basis you ask? I do not see as it matters any more. Anything will do. Just make something up. It does not even need to be plausible.

    That’s THEIR standard now. Hold them to it.

      Just as Harry Reid has the bodies of three prostitutes buried in his basement. (I don’t care if he has a basement or not.)

      How do I know? The same way he knew that Mitt Romney hadn’t paid any taxes for the previous ten years.

    Nader 💩 his pants again…

      Sisu in reply to EBL. | November 20, 2021 at 12:13 am

      It comes out both ends, though at one end the qualifying “depends” (perhaps still) offer some integrity. Yet out the top end there is no such protection, e.g., recall it was nadler who ( am sure multiple times, but I remember) during December, 2012 stated:

      “One of the definitions of a nation state is that the state has a monopoly on legitimate violence. And the state ought to have a monopoly on legitimate violence.”

      What nadler (on behalf of the demonrats) did not acknowledge then nor today is that the NYS (and now clearly the federal) government(s) are “illegitimate”.

    Let’s go Nadler!

Structurally we need a Narrative Branch of the federal government that distributes federal reality to other branches.

    A narrative would be educational. Handmade tales are spun by special and peculiar interests.

      rhhardin in reply to n.n. | November 19, 2021 at 6:26 pm

      It has to have entertainment value for it to stick. Being outraged is entertainment to oneself, of course.

      Not just anything is a narrative.

      ALPAPilot in reply to n.n. | November 19, 2021 at 7:26 pm

      nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb

      Defining one act as multiple offenses e.g. differing federal and state charges makes a mockery of the Constitution.

      But that’s what Democrats do best.

        henrybowman in reply to ALPAPilot. | November 19, 2021 at 8:33 pm

        Well, think about it. People get hit with multiple charges for a single act even on the local level, because that act violated multiple laws. So technically this is no different… except that two jurisdictions now get serial access to prosecute you instead of parallel access.

        The proper way to resolve this problem is, I fear, too radical (in all senses of that word) for most people:

        The Constitution of the United States [has] delegated to the Congress a power to punish treason, counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States, piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offences against the laws of nations, and no other crimes whatever.
        –THOMAS JEFFERSON, THE KENTUCKY RESOLUTIONS

        America started out with three federal crimes: treason, counterfeiting, and piracy. In 1998, the American Bar Association counted more than 3,300 separate federal criminal offenses on the books, more than 40% of which had been enacted in just the past 30 years… Today, the Congressional Research Service says it no longer can even say how many federal crimes exist.
        –REBECCA HAGELIN

          DaveGinOly in reply to henrybowman. | November 20, 2021 at 2:37 am

          Years ago, the Congressional Research Service wrote a very interesting manual at the behest of Congress. Offhand, I do not even recall the name (and don’t believe I still have a copy – it is rare in the extreme, and I have never seen another copy of it in the four decades or so after I became acquainted with it – was it “Federal Jurisdiction Within the States”?). The publication was about the territorial limits of the the authority of Congress and its laws. The upshot was that most federal law only applies to those places where Congress has jurisdiction, and the list of those places excludes the fifty Union member states, except in places within the states that were either reserved to the federal government (as were large swaths of land in territories that became western states), or surrendered in totality to the federal government by a state (such as Washington D.C.). There are also gradations of jurisdiction, in which the federal government shares jurisdiction with the state over land within the state, ranging from federal jurisdiction being no greater than that of any other private land owner in the state (proprietary jurisdiction), to forms of concurrent jurisdiction in which the state and federal government share (sometimes overlapping, other times not) law enforcement duties.

          Here’s something I found that is fairly well a synopsis of the principles that were expounded upon in greater detail in the publication:
          https://www.justice.gov/archives/jm/criminal-resource-manual-664-territorial-jurisdiction

          What we need is the enforcement of these concepts that should still be binding.

          Char Char Binks in reply to henrybowman. | November 21, 2021 at 9:16 am

          The Brandon administration will never investigate morries hall for counterfeiting, a crime the LSM has deemed inconsequential.

    anarchyisfreedom in reply to rhhardin. | November 19, 2021 at 9:48 pm

    Structurally we need to dismantle federal government, first. Then state, and local government.

Double jeopardy
Gamble wrongly decided

    zennyfan in reply to Joe-dallas. | November 19, 2021 at 6:52 pm

    Sorry, double jeopardy doesn’t apply because the feds and state are separate sovereigns.

      AnAdultInDiapers in reply to zennyfan. | November 19, 2021 at 7:57 pm

      They both come under the same constitution. Isn’t that what prevents double jeopardy?

      Joe-dallas in reply to zennyfan. | November 19, 2021 at 9:23 pm

      As i stated _ gamble was wrongly decided

      5a is in absolute prohibition against the federal government , specifically against the federal govt multiple prosecutionss

      Gamble wrongly decided the dual sovereignty issuue

        DaveGinOly in reply to Joe-dallas. | November 20, 2021 at 2:55 am

        Your opinion may be correct. But the federal government does not abide by it. The feds get around “double jeopardy” by trying someone for an offense other than that with which he was charged by the state. Where the state charges “murder”, the feds charge with “violation of civil rights” (or some such), and claim that the action doesn’t try a person twice for the same offense because they’re trying the person for different offenses. They abide by the letter, but not the spirit, of the law.

        Rather the rule should be “no person shall be put in jeopardy twice for the same offense, nor suffer another trial for any offenses related to the same act or series of acts that was or were the cause of the initial trial.” It doesn’t exactly roll off the tongue, but I think it gets better to plugging the apparent gap between what the founders intended and how their intent has been corrupted. (But never did they imagine that the federal government would involve itself with a killing that happened within the jurisdiction of a state.)

          Tom Servo in reply to DaveGinOly. | November 22, 2021 at 7:58 pm

          on a legal blog like this, I would have thought someone would have pointed out that the relevant civil rights laws apply ONLY to LEO’s and other Government officials, not to private citizens. (ie, Rodney King charges) They may claim that he was acting as a policeman – but the State of Wisconsin, acting through Prosecutor Binger, has already put sworn testimony in the record that Kyle was *never* acting with any Governmental authority.

          There are no Federal charges that can be filed.

      20keto20 in reply to zennyfan. | November 20, 2021 at 4:40 pm

      And the feds have no problem whatsoever jumping in with charges that they think will garner themselves votes, or at least campaign cash. In the past 15 years, the Dems have proven themselves to be not only radical Socialists or outright Communists but devoid of all moral fiber as well. One day, they will face judgment and it won’t be pretty!! The Swamp will do them no good at that point. Maybe an asbestos suit (I seriously doubt it though). Evil is as evil does!!

      Char Char Binks in reply to zennyfan. | November 21, 2021 at 9:17 am

      Technically true, but actually false.

    Not necessarily, but the feds would have to charge him with something other than aggravated assault, murder, etc.

The Friendly Grizzly | November 19, 2021 at 5:07 pm

What federal charges has Nadler in mind?

Noo Yawkuhz can sure pick ’em…!

    Yeah good question. I mean…can you think of any charges they could actually come up with Professor?

    The Feds could try to bring straw purchase charges against Dominick Black and Rittenhouse over the gun purchase, but I think they would have a very weak case because Black never transferred the rifle to Rittenhouse. The state charged Black with illegally providing a rifle to Rittenhouse, but after Schroeder dismissed that charge I think Binger will have a hard time prosecuting Black, and there is a status hearing in his case on Nov 22. The Feds could try to stick both Black and Rittenhouse with “conspiracy to violate civil rights,” or some kind of interstate transportation of firearms but I think any such charges would be a real stretch. Of course, that didn’t stop Binger & Kraus from this parody of a prosecution.

      The Friendly Grizzly in reply to PBM. | November 19, 2021 at 6:00 pm

      And, what you write just proves that we have entirely too many laws on the books. If “the authorities” want to get you, they will darn well get you.

        I’ve sure you’ve seen this, Grizz. For the new, non-attorney people here.
        https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2203713

        Brave Sir Robbin in reply to The Friendly Grizzly. | November 19, 2021 at 9:13 pm

        There is actually only one crime, and that’s “Crimes against a Democrat’s sensibilities.” To this, you may attach any crime. It does not matter. If required, just make up an allegation to a crime that fits the punishment you want for the offender. And if that does not work, gen up a mob to tear them limb-form-limb.

        Hey, the offender provoked it. After all, he provoked the sensibilities of a Democrat. Don’t do that, and you will be fine, until another Democrat wants something you have, or sees you as a rival, and then makes something up to have you killed or hauled off to the gulag.

        That’s how they role.

      ChrisMallory in reply to PBM. | November 19, 2021 at 7:09 pm

      The firearm does not have to be delivered to Rittenhouse to constitute the straw purchase. Rittenhouse, Black and Black’s father all gave statements both to the police and media that provide all the evidence the Feds need to convict on a Federal straw purchase.

      “Form 4471 question 21: a. Are you the actual transferee/buyer of the firearm(s) listed on this form and any continuation sheet(s) (ATF Form 5300.9A)?
      Warning: You are not the actual transferee/buyer if you are acquiring the firearm(s) on behalf of another person. If you are not the actual transferee/buyer, the licensee cannot transfer the firearm(s) to you. Exception: If you are only picking up a repaired firearm(s) for another person, you are not required to answer 21.a. and may proceed to question 21.b.”

      Once Black checked “yes” to that question Federal law was violated. Since Rittenhouse has admitted to providing the money and asking Black to buy the rifle for him, it is a straw purchase. They charge Black with the actual straw purchase and Rittenhouse with conspiracy to evade Federal Firearm Laws.

      They might also get froggy and claim that since Rittenhouse was carrying the rifle it was transferred to him making it a illegal interstate transfer, since Rittenhouse is a legal resident of Illinois. Interstate transfers of long guns must take place at an FFL, involve the background check and must follow the laws of both states. Meaning that for Rittenhouse to buy a firearm (ignoring the age requirement) he must have an Illinois FOID and abide by the Illinois wait period.

      Note, while it is my opinion that ALL firearm laws are unconstitutional, I recognize how the ATF/Feds play the game.

        JustSayN2O in reply to ChrisMallory. | November 19, 2021 at 9:40 pm

        So suddenly the feds are interested in a Firearm Transaction Record violation?
        Are the feds also interested in Hunter’s Firearm Transaction Record violation?

      korp in reply to PBM. | November 19, 2021 at 7:19 pm

      The firearm wasn’t transported across state lines, and further, that’s not illegal. People harp on the state lines angle, but it’s just not a thing that matters.

      “Conspiracy to violate civil rights” would be a tough charge to throw at him, given all the records of him being in the town that day to clean graffiti and the court finding he acted in self-defense, and only shot people in the act of attacking him.

    The only thing I could think of would be a civil rights violation, but that would be very weak. The kid was under 18 and was not a state actor (e.g. police). Nadler is a idiot

    Char Char Binks in reply to The Friendly Grizzly. | November 21, 2021 at 9:21 am

    They have the man, now they just need to concoct the crime.

Called double jeopardy maybe you have heard of it.

    The Friendly Grizzly in reply to 2smartforlibs. | November 19, 2021 at 5:13 pm

    Knowing our Justice Department they will handle this the same way they do it with cops that are found innocent:

    They’ll pull some civil rights violation out of their hat. It doesn’t matter 1) that Kyle is a civilian and 2), he only shot white people, not exalted minorities.

      Now that “jump-kick man” has been identified, and given the original incident where jacob blake was shot by police as he went for his knife to assert his right to “self defense”, DOJ CRS (who knew ?; see link below) has reason to be involved (if not already) and feed an appropriate “civil rights violations” narrative to those elsewhere in DOJ who can objectively evaluate just how many federal crimes Rittenhouse committed.

      https://www.justice.gov/crs/our-focus/race

      And, perhaps BATFE can re-measure Rittenhouse’s “modern sporting rifle”. …

      Now when will Dominick Black and / or Rittenhouse have their rifle returned to them ?

    Bruce Hayden in reply to 2smartforlibs. | November 19, 2021 at 7:56 pm

    Doesn’t apply. Two sovereigns, so no double jeopardy.

    NavyMustang in reply to 2smartforlibs. | November 19, 2021 at 8:11 pm

    When I was the Executive Officer at a Navy command, one of our Sailors got into a bit of trouble out in town.

    During discussions with the CO about how to handle this, ALL possibilities were on the table. One of those possibilities was that, if we were not satisfied with what the local judge did, then we had the option to charge the Sailor under federal law.

    Ultimately we didn’t but we had the option.

    Remember the Rodney King case. The cops were found not guilty in the local court, but were convicted by the Feds for civil rights violations.

    So, it can happen, but I hope these a-holes leave this young man alone to move on with his life.

      DaveGinOly in reply to NavyMustang. | November 20, 2021 at 3:00 am

      In the case you mentioned, both the state and the feds had jurisdiction. The feds had in personam jurisdiction over the man because he was in federal military service and subject to the UCMJ, no matter where he might commit a crime. The state/local government had territorial and subject matter jurisdiction because of where the act took place and because the act was a crime.

Comanche Voter | November 19, 2021 at 5:09 pm

Let’s see now–burning a business district to the ground is “First Amendment protected protest” in Fat Jerry’s mind. If such a “First Amendment protected protest” came to Fat Jerry’s neighborhood, I’m sure he would just waddle away and say “No Problem”. If Fat Jerry is one of the best and brightest of Pelosi’s posse, she’s in real trouble.

    AnAdultInDiapers in reply to Comanche Voter. | November 19, 2021 at 6:26 pm

    Chasing someone down the street and swinging a large wheeled club at their head is “First Amendment protected protest” in his mind too.

    Fortunately Rittenhouse’s right to defend himself counted for more.

    I think I read that quarter-ton-of-fun Jerry wasn’t running for re-election in 2022? So you know anything he says in the next year is a lame attempt to bolster his reputation which is already in tatters.

More evidence that the slander run by Jerry’s favorite news sources has caused irreparable harm.

Kyle’s going to end up being richer than Nick Sandmann if this keeps up.

Rittenhouse is no “hero”. He stood up for people… persons when they were assaulted under the religious pretense of “diversity, equity, and inclusion” of social justice. He offered aid to people affected. He stood when people were advised to take a knee. He presented armed deterrence, and responded with proportional measure to not plausible, imminent, or even probable cause, but immediate threats (i.e. diverse or quantity) to his life. Today, justice, in the form of a jury of his peers, weighing the evidence, acquitted him of all charges. An extraordinary young man, who will surely serve his family, community, nation, and, in fact, humanity, through his moral character, courage, and action. Good job boys and girl of his defense team.

    gonzotx in reply to n.n. | November 19, 2021 at 5:13 pm

    Yes he is, he had the courage to go forth into enemy infested territory to help and try to save the innocent

      REDACTED in reply to gonzotx. | November 19, 2021 at 6:56 pm

      I’m thinking that n.n left off the question mark in his first sentence. I think he goes on to explain why he is a hero

      but I could be wrong

    healthguyfsu in reply to n.n. | November 19, 2021 at 5:14 pm

    He didn’t choose to be a hero, but that’s the best kind of hero.

    He damn sure is one now.

Despite losing all that weight, Nadler’s as big a POS as ever.

HERE IT COMES . . .

What we need is an investigation of Nadler and Adam Shiff and Maxine Waters.

    The Friendly Grizzly in reply to Ben Kent. | November 19, 2021 at 5:14 pm

    … and Sheldon Whitehouse and…

    I estimate there are 500 +/- in house and senate combined that need a through competency/personality examination and then an investigation of all personal dealings – starting with a basic receipts and disbursements audit beginning with the day they entered politics.

Can they bring any charges for going across state lines?

    barnesto in reply to gonzotx. | November 19, 2021 at 5:38 pm

    Since when is crossing state line illegal? And he didn’t bring the gun across state lines, if that is what you’re really asking about.

      lurker9876 in reply to barnesto. | November 19, 2021 at 5:42 pm

      I was wondering about that…for heaven’s sake, he has family in both states!! Besides, he was already in Kenosha. That’s not crossing the lines.

        Crossing state lines isn’t illegal, and crossing state lines with a gun isn’t illegal either. The media harps on it because they want people to think it’s a thing so they can rile them up.

        Now, IF it was legal for him to own say a handgun in IL and it was illegal in WI, when he drove to WI he’d be violating WI law by bringing it. But federally there’s nothing against crossing state lines unless he’s brining an NFA item (full auto, short barrel rifle or shotgun, grenade, etc.).

          Bruce Hayden in reply to korp. | November 19, 2021 at 7:59 pm

          Under IL gun laws, he couldn’t own a long gun in that state, because he didn’t have a permit. But, the gun never crossed state lines, instead it stayed in WI, where Kyle owning (or borrowing) it is perfectly legal.

          Arminius in reply to korp. | November 21, 2021 at 3:29 pm

          A lot of BS has been spewed as if “state lines” are somehow sacrosanct (but of course international borders are racist) or that transporting firearms across state lines falls into the same category as trafficking in sex slaves and transporting them across state lines for immoral purposes (which is a federal crime). Per the Firearms Owners Protection Act (FOPA) of 1986, as long as the firearm is legal in your home state and legal at your destination you can transport it through states where it would be illegal for you to possess it.

          Many people like to hunt with handguns, for instance. And there are handguns that are designed solely for hunting and would be ridiculous to use for any other purpose (.454 Casull in Freedom Arms single-action, Ruger Super Redhawk in .480 Ruger, S&W M500 double-action revolver in .500 S&W Magnum, etc.). Say you live in Florida and want to go bear hunting in Maine. These revolvers are entirely legal in Florida, and legal to own/possess in Maine.

          You may wisely decide you’d rather drive than fly. It doesn’t matter if you drive through New Jersey or even NYC on the way up. As long as you are merely passing through (short stops for food or to refuel are legal) then you can’t be arrested for illegally possessing a handgun in those jurisdictions.

          Anybody who is decrying Rittenhouse “crossing state lines” while armed is either an idiot, a liar, or both. As a hunter I’ve done that numerous times. When I was stationed in San Diego one of my squadron’s big social event was the opening of dove season. We’d head east and hunt both in SoCal and Arizona, possessing licenses in both states. We must have “crossed state lines” with our shotguns multiple times a day.

          Even worse for the pearl clutchers and fainting couch inhabitants, aviators could check out Tomcats for the weekend and go on cross country flights. It was (and is) valuable navigation and flight training. But the aviators would also have a lot of fun (if you’re flying back from the east coast with one drop tank full of fish, the other full of Maryland Blue Crab, the fish will explode at altitude and make an ungodly, stinking mess that the maintainers will definitely NOT APPRECIATE having to clean up but the crab will be fine; ask me how I know). Sometimes they’d pack along their shotguns if it was pheasant season in the Dakotas and get some hunting in. Talk about crossing state lines in style.

          Which is a nice segue into why it might be wiser to drive than to fly commercially. You can’t control where the aircraft goes when you fly commercially. And the FOPA may not protect you if the plane diverts and lands in a jurisdiction where the firearm you’re carrying is illegal. For instance, the same scenario I mentioned earlier, but the hunter chooses to fly from Florida to Maine rather than drive. The plane develops an issue and has to land in Newark. They unload all the checked luggage and you have to make your own follow-on travel arrangements.

          You are now well and truly screwed. As soon as you pick up the bag containing your declared firearm you now as a Florida resident illegally possess a handgun in New Jersey. Even if you can get the bag off the carousel without attracting unwanted attention from law enforcement, what next? Try to get on another flight to Maine. You have to incriminate yourself to comply with the law; you have to declare to the airline that you’re flying with a handgun. As soon as you do, you’ll be surrounded by so much law enforcement and in cuffs so fast it’ll make your head spin.

          Something to think about. But the bottom line is that not only is there nothing wrong with “crossing state lines” with a firearm, federal law specifically protects you if you do as long as you are otherwise complying with the law.

      Char Char Binks in reply to barnesto. | November 21, 2021 at 9:39 am

      I was once forced to pay tribute for crossing into Illinois. I believe it cost $1.50 at the time. I even had to pay extra because I don’t have exact change in the DMZ of South Beloit.

    He didn’t take the rifle across state lines; it was already in Wisconsin when he arrived.

The double jeopardy clause of the Constitution did not prevent the officers in the Rodney King trial from being retried in federal court, on the theory that the federal charges were brought by a different entity than the state charges.
It struck me as an unjust result at the time, but it resulted in convictions of a few cops in federal court.
I have never seen that tactic since, and it would be scandalous to do it in this case. I cannot imagine what federal laws might have been broken by Kyle.

    henrybowman in reply to johnny dollar. | November 19, 2021 at 6:02 pm

    Actually, the theory was that the charges were different. For example, “assault” being a state crime, but “assault on a health care worker” being a federal crime.
    The problem here is that the feds can hang government official on “denial of civil rights” claims. But Kyle is not a government official, doesn’t have to affirmatively hire candidates for the position of his Mom, or any of the other federal BS.

    It was used against Lemrick Nelson, so there was at least a little bit of justice. The jury at his state trial pretty much nullified the law against murdering Jews, but at least the feds were able to get him for violating a Jew’s civil right to walk on a public street unmolested.

    So I’m glad the feds were able to bring charges of their own.

    Nelson eventually met justice when he came to a violent end. Rot In Hell. Unfortunately none of the other 20 or so thugs who participated in the murder were ever caught. They’re all still walking free, unless some of them met a sticky end too.

    Nelson’s victim, Yankel Rosenbaum, was my friend, so I feel rather strongly about this.

      Arminius in reply to Milhouse. | November 21, 2021 at 3:52 pm

      Like all laws, or for that matter weapons, they can be used reasonably to achieve commendable ends or maliciously to achieve evil results.

      It isn’t like dictatorships aren’t “nations of laws.” They always have plenty of laws on the books. But the hallmark of dictatorships is the laws are capriciously and maliciously applied against those the dictator sees as the political enemy, not at all against “friendly” socio-political elements.

      Nadler and Merrick know full well that they can’t convict Rittenhouse of a single federal crime. But that won’t stop them from making an example of him by locking him up indefinitely, the process of course being the punishment.

      It all comes down to what the Biden admin believes is politically feasible with an election now less than a year away. Which should anger us all; the only thing keeping Rittenhouse out of a federal lockup awaiting trial is whoever is the shot caller in the Biden admin holding a wetted finger in the air to see which way the wind is blowing.
      For instance when pro-abortion protesters in concert with leftist congresscritters shut down Kavanaugh’s confirmation hearings some were charged with trespassing. The same when thousands of pro-abortion demonstrators shut down the SCOTUS, led by Upchuck Schumer who threatened Gorsuch and Kavanaugh by name, as it was hearing oral argument regarding a state abortion ban. Some were charged with trespassing.

      Those charged had to pay a $50 fine (actually, the organizations like Planned Parenthood and NARAL that planned the disruptions paid the fines) and were released.

      The 1/6 protesters charged with similar misdemeanors such as trespassing and illegal parading on the other hand are being held without bail indefinitely.

Jabba is just pandering to one of the Democrat party’s large constituency; felons and other race baiting criminals.

Ro lose all that weight and STILL look like a troll
He must be really black inside

This would have been Kyle had he NOT had a gun to defend himself

I remember this, this is what they want for all of us

https://twitter.com/TheRightMelissa/status/1460979374166052871?s=20

TheLooseThread | November 19, 2021 at 5:26 pm

This is just more proof, beyond a reasonable doubt, that we can not share a society with the left.

Their addiction to base emotion and bigotry prevents them from pursuing the standard actions and mindset that builds and supports a healthy civilization.

The longer we tie our destiny to theirs, the longer we endanger our survival and the survival of future generations.

    I would add that it’s also proof that when police stand down even worse Sh!$ happens. Why didn’t Wisc. Gov have effective law enforcement and National Guard out or on standby before and during these blm antifa riots ? If law enforcement were out and empowered the odds of this incident would have been greatly reduced. The woke Wisc, Gov aided and abetted the rioters and he got people killed

We better start listening cause all I hear lately is ‘send the DOJ” when did they become the BROWN SHIRTS FOR BIDEN? Why oh why are we not BEYOND ANGRY! My grandad would whip me for allowing this to go on, tell me get your loud mouth in motion! He would smell TYRANNY and in his way BRING ON THE SMACKDOWN! My 8th decade and I’m MAD AS HELL AND WILL NOT TAKE IT, HOW MANY EMAILS CAN WE SEND NADLER N NOT “HI HOW YA DOING LATELY NAT!”

Colonel Travis | November 19, 2021 at 5:40 pm

Tyrannical asshole

It is a myth.

Sometimes you have to laugh …. thanks to the Bee..

https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1461806746486382606

    PhillyWatch in reply to amwick. | November 19, 2021 at 6:44 pm

    I would love for KR to follow Sandman’s example and take CNN and MSBC to court for their bald face lies. But I can also respect his wishes if he chooses to return to quieter times.

    I watched his meltdown after the verdict was read. It was a heartbreaking reminder of his age at the time of the incident. I can only imagine what he’s gone through with the vile hatred he’s faced after an incident that would leave anyone with nightmares.

    PTSD is a real thing, thank you for your service.

EVERYONE NEEDS TO TOILET PAPER HIS HOUSE WITH USED TOILET PAPER

payback is a bitch fatboy and next November, you’re gonna get a huge helping of it

https://twitter.com/mikepfingston2/status/1461828870458466305

How has Covid not found this morbidly obese demon..?

https://twitter.com/DMacleoMaine/status/1461829666558332938

fat asshole prob been dosing himself with Hydroxychloroquine/zinc/Zithromax since Nov 2019 (yeah thats when I had covid symptoms) while shitting on national TV.

Somebody publish this asshole’s home address to BLM as being “Kyle’s safe house.” It’s the only way he’ll ever understand the downsides of “Democrat justice” for America.

The American People Have Spoken, Fu*K you Needly Dick Nadler!

Chip Roy schooled Nadler on the 2nd Amendment just a week or so ago. He is a total putz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr98SszKTqk

Publish his address and bomb it with Cow, Pig, & Dog Shit

Justice cannot tolerate armed persons crossing state lines looking for trouble while people engage in First Amendment-protected protest

like when busloads of armed antifa went to Charlottesville to intimidate protesters?

Nadler, stop pounding the table and naddle off to wherever it is you go to hide from the daylight.

Once again, the Left sides with the absolute worst people society has to offer

Kyle represents the best of us.

Nadler is such a schmuck, and he believes the public actually thinks his opinion is important. DOJ moves on this it could not go worse for the current regime.

Isn’t an overflowing manure pit considered a very serious public health hazard? Someone needs to trace Jer’s steps and drain that pit pronto.

Nadler reminds me of the dancing troll that gets all shot up in “Scarface”

I think Nadler is just playing to his base. He literally is full of s***.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzJNZYuSqoU&t=4s

“Jerrold Nadler Shits Himself and Tries To Waddle Off Stage at Democratic Press Conference”

I’ll make it easy for you fatso, make sure you include in your DOJ request that you, pelosi and schiff have incontrovertible sources that told you that Kyle is a Russian agent who planned on stealing all the cheese in Wisconsin; and that christopher steele has source documents.

I called this moments after the verdict. Federal charges. Move the case to Milwaukee and convict with a majority black, if not all black jury.

The charges are immaterial, they will find a jury that will convict on anything.

Such a goddamned fool ought to be a rarity in a civilized world.

    henrybowman in reply to NotKennedy. | November 19, 2021 at 9:30 pm

    Pollyannas are generally nice people, but have low survival potential.
    Barnum understood the truth about Americans born every minute.
    Mencken understood the truth about the intelligence of the American public.
    Outright charlatans and mountebanks were popularly elected during Reconstruction.
    The Democratic Party is still a force in American electoral politics.
    Civilization is precisely the mechanism that allows the survival, procreation, and political participation of anyone other than the smartest and strongest.
    You will never have a country occupied 100% by advocates of constitutionality.
    The best you can do is arrange things so that despoilers have no route to power.
    The mechanisms the founders chose were inadequate, and are now entirely sapped.

people in cities who are tired of people coming to there town ‘crossing state lines’ should adopt “Kyle’s Law” and post signs saying “come here to riot and loot at your peril – 1000 Kyles on duty 24/7”

Nadler crossing crazy lines.
Again.

Jerry Nadler: An overweight Jewish guy from NYC who happens to hold a National Socialist view of the American legal system.

We will see if the Feds carry out Nadler’s orders. They can easily ruin Rittenhouse’s life by filing bogus charges against him, charges that would keep him in court for years and drain his bank account even if there is never an actual trial. Lawfare is a potent weapon in the Communists’ arsenal.

Meanwhile – where are the Republicans? The only one I have heard commenting on the case so far is Dan Crenshaw, and his McCain-esque cowardice is one of the reasons the Communists have the terrifying power they do.

He and Biden share another action.. incontinence. Both ends of the alimentary canal.

If Grosskreutz can sue the city of Kenosha for allowing the riots to happen, why can’t Kyle?

Give HIM that $10 mil

The vile Dhimmi-crats are vindictive, infantile, obnoxious, totalitarian and insane children. Fanatics, all of them. Facts, reason, logic and the law matter not; only total adherence to their cancerous and wretched ideology.

Such brazen dishonesty; par for the course, for the vile Dhimmi-crats. “Looking for trouble” accurately characterizes Rittenhouse’s crazed, nihilist-thug attackers (and, every member of “Anti-fa” and “Black Lives Matter”), not Rittenhouse, who was minding his own business.

It speaks volumes regarding the glaring moral bankruptcy, intellectual dishonesty and rank fanaticism of the vile Dhimmi-crats and their media lackeys/lemmings/lapdogs, that not one amongst them can proffer even a scintilla of condemnation of the actions of Rittenhouse’s thug attackers, that evening, nor, indeed, for any of the goose-stepping, brownshirted, nihilist, Dhimmi-crat, terrorist thugs in “Anti-fa” and in “Black Lives Matter,” who spent the bulk of year 2020 destroying businesses, neighborhoods and cities, attacking police officers, murdering innocents and desecrating synagogues.

And Merrick Garland is just the sort of AG who would do it.

Nadler is delusional piece of human debris who will meet his master at the gates of Hell.

The Dem lunatics are lashing out in any manner to maintain their tyrannical control that is slipping from their evil rerobate fingers.

Bring it on. The Left never knows when to stop, and they just keep digging. I welcome their ignorance and their willingness to show it.

Mark Styne said in his blog questions/answers yesterday, that the Feds would try Kyle under hate crimes

Camal toes came out and said yesterday it would happen

Sorry camal toes came out and pretty much said it was a wrong decision
Mark said yesterday they would bring halted hate crimes after him.

I have no qualms about hoping that bloated piece of human excrement chokes on a cheeseburger and keels over. It’s absolutely disgusting that such a fascistic bloated turd like Nadler exercises any power in any polite society. Fuck him and every oxygen thief like him. Pure human garbage.

It is obvious that Needle Dick Nadler and Basement Biden need an Adenochrome fix, which is why they thrust for the blood from people like Kyle Rittenhouse; you can see their anger and blackened soulless eyes when they didn’t get any!

It is obvious that Needle Dick Nadler and Basement Biden need an Adenochrome fix, which is why they thrust for the blood from people like Kyle Rittenhouse; you can see the Evil their blackened soulless eyes, which was like blackhole from hell when they didn’t get any fresh blood, which is the real reason Biden had to go to the hospital today for a black-opt top-secret blood transfusion that came straight from Beijing.

It is obvious that Needle Dick Nadler and Basement Biden need an Adenochrome fix, which is why they thrust for the blood from people like Kyle Rittenhouse; you can see the Evil in their blackened soulless eyes, which was like the bottomless pits of hell when they didn’t get any fresh blood, which is also the real reason Biden had to go to the hospital for a black-opt top-secret blood transfusion that came straight from his comrades in China, his blood brothers who run the Beijing death camps,

MaggotAtBroadAndWall | November 19, 2021 at 9:16 pm

At least three people wanted to kill a 17 year old kid that night. He somehow managed to fight them off to save his life.

How can a rational person not view Nadler as an evil monster?

Maybe one of the eight-year-olds Nadler keeps in his basement could comment.

Hey! He’s a public person! It’s totally OK!

Better to remain silent and be thought a tyrant than to log on to Twitter and remove all doubt.

Laurence Tribe cosigned Nadler’s lunacy.

https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1461792704728383494

Frankly I am surprised that Nadler woke up long enough to make a comment, well honestly it was probably a staff member who tweeted the comment.

Nadler is now sleeping through his 15th term in congress.

The sad part is that someone so obviously in not state to wield power has so much power. Nadler should be in a home not in C0ngress.

Hey Nadler, go crap your pants with the pedophile-in-chief.

Article I, Section 6, Clause 1 doesn’t give Congress license to lie. Nadler is calling for a Breach of the Peace contrary to the Constitution and should be expelled!

Nadler is an immoderate Communist. Communism and the US Constitution are not reconcilable. He and his ilk seek fundamental change and the destruction of it. And thats the way it is.

A 12:0 jury consensus is a much stronger deterrent to political games than a directed verdict.

    PhillyWatch in reply to Petrushka. | November 20, 2021 at 9:21 am

    Just think were all defenders of the right to self defense…and even 2A…would be now if the judge had thown out the case on a mistrial. We’d be in a muddy soup of argument with absolutely no firm ground to say he was right. Right now, the MSM and the extreme left wing is clearly revealed for the idiots they are, and that includes MC’s like Nadler.

    The judge saw what we saw, never was so clear a case of self defense laid out in the court than the one even prosecution HAD to when they played the videos. The judge was doing the right thing by delaying ruling on the mistrial motions as he doubtlessly expected NG.

Nadler would be wise to step away from his emotions….unfortunately he can only waddle away, and the emotions are faster than his feet.

    PhillyWatch in reply to Wrathchilde. | November 20, 2021 at 9:24 am

    I think Nadler gave up the ability to be wise the moment he got into congressional office. He’s certainly not shown any hints of it since 2017.

Nadler should be covered with applesauce and staked to an anthill. Any objections?

Does Nadler want Hunter Biden prosecuted, he falsified documents to purchase a firearm? Let’s see him lobby to bring that case into the courts.

There are most certainly matters warranting investigation by the Dept of Justice:
Gross violations of civil liberties, prosecutorial misconduct and unequal application of the law by the District Attorney for Kenosha.

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