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LIVE: Rittenhouse Trial Day 7

LIVE: Rittenhouse Trial Day 7

Energized defense enters second day presenting its case of self-defense to the jury

Welcome back to our ongoing live coverage of the trial of Kyle Rittenhouse. Kyle is charged with a variety of felonies, including first-degree murder, for shooting three men, two fatally, as well as for alleged reckless conduct on the night of August 25, 2020, in riot-torn Kenosha WI.

You can find our commentary and analysis of yesterday’s trial proceedings here:  Rittenhouse Trial Day 6: State’s Autopsy Expert Supports Self-Defense Narrative In Another Disastrous Prosecution Day

As usual, you can follow our live streaming of today’s court proceedings as well as our live, real-time commenting of courtroom testimony and argument as it occurs, right here.



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Prosecutorial misconduct. Pure and simple. This guy needs to be fired. I’m not trying to flood the comments but this guy is truly pissing me off with his stupidity.

Good fucking hell, what Mr. Rosenbaum thought has zero impact on whether the defense is valid.

If I’m on the jury, I’m really hating Binger.

Is that KR’s mom crying in the galley?

In what universe if the party being chased, intimidating the chaser? Does Binger really believe this? Or is this just because he had to present some type of case?

YoU cOUlD hAVe CaLlEd 911. How much do we have to keep seeing this farce.

    59Apache in reply to Faren451. | November 10, 2021 at 4:55 pm

    Calling 911 had clearly been working so well for the city over the last several days…

    This is absurd. Binger cannot believe his own schtick… right?

      Brave Sir Robbin in reply to 59Apache. | November 10, 2021 at 6:41 pm

      Again, what he is counting on is the jury will find the fact Rittenhouse was there at all to dipositive of both recklessness and provocation of the rioters that led to the shooting. The theory is that Rittenhouse went to Kenosha with the intent to provoke the mob to violence against him so he could lure them into a homicidal trap – basically murder made to look like self-defense.

      Put everything into that context. AB tried to address this, but this is the prosecution’s theory. Look at the trial with that perspective and bias, not the one that makes sense to you. Try and see if the prosecution is appealing to a jury who is seated with that bias.

      I assume the prosecution’s closing will make the plea plain. People are dead because Rittenhouse knowingly inserted himself into an unstable and inherently dangerous situation, and did so with the premeditated purpose to provoke attack so he could then use deadly force to make murder look like self-defense. That is the evil plot of a 17 year old according to the prosecution.

      Do not doubt a jury will not lick it up, and they are not going to let Kyle walk because of some legal technicality or because the law does not fit. Those who push back against the fascist mob must be hammered down good and hard. No one must think they can resist.

    divemedic in reply to Faren451. | November 10, 2021 at 8:09 pm

    Put a police dispatcher from the 911 center who was there that night on the stand:
    Defense: “How many 911 calls came in that night?”
    Defense: “And how many of those calls were the police unable or unwilling to respond to?”

      aramissebastian in reply to divemedic. | November 11, 2021 at 8:21 am

      One of my cases was a wrongful death civil action involving a active shooter situation.

      And there was a recording of a 19 year old kid on the phone with 911 screaming hysterically “We’re going to die; we’re going to die.”

      And the 911 dispatcher told him “Don’t you raise your voice at me . . . ”

      I’ve often thought how sad it was that was the last voice he heard, because he was killed shortly thereafter.

    …and the guys attacking him could have retreated lived to burn down cities elsewhere. But they didn’t, so they aren’t… and TY KR.

      forksdad in reply to Andy. | November 10, 2021 at 8:24 pm

      Heck yes, the pedo could be stalking a child, the abuser could be right now be beating on a defenseless victim like Buddy Rich with a new set of skins if they had just not attacked a minor with more guts than all of them put together.

      Dirtbags gotta dirtbag.

Why is this testimony even allowed? Kyle had no legal duty to help his attacker, grant everything Binger is saying and his claim is untouched.

Binger’s entire persona is of a man who’s never been in personal, physical danger in his life.

The defense counsel really should be objecting when the prosecutor starts testifying about what Rosenbaum was thinking as he’s lunging for Kyle’s gun. Such bullsh*t. Nobody knows what Rosenbaum was thinking when he was lunging for Kyle’s gun. Rosenbaum was a literal lunatic. He had already threatened to kill Kyle if he got him alone. There was no way Kyle could know what Rosenbaum was thinking, and there is certainly no way the damn prosecutor knows either (“Mr. Rosenbaum was just trying to push your gun away from him”). Rosenbaum was a lunatic, he’d been begging people to shoot him (“shoot me n*gger!”), he was crazy and he was doing crazy things — like threatening to murder Kyle, and grabbing for his gun. Kyle had to respond to the threat Rosenbaum presented. That’s what he did.

    59Apache in reply to Observer. | November 10, 2021 at 5:05 pm

    I think it is better to let Binger belabor silly points like this. The jury has already seen video of all of the events. Breaking it down in millisecond by millisecond increments doesn’t change the sum of all of the video in my mind.

    I dont think it will for the Jury either.

    Binger looks desperate with this line of questioning and continues to come across as unlikeable.

      mbecker908 in reply to 59Apache. | November 10, 2021 at 5:24 pm

      I agree. Kyle Rittenhouse is really an incredible young man. First of all, to have the kind of firing discipline he had during the riot is amazing. He had fired maybe 200 rounds in his life. Finds himself in WWIII and is clear-headed, fires only at people who are trying to kill him and doesn’t hurt anyone else. Next, to maintain his composure in this onslaught is even more amazing. I don’t know very many seasoned adults who could carry this off.

      Binger has to be pissing the jury off by bullying Kyle, and Kyle, by not losing his composure has to be winning big points with the jury. At this point I think Binger is just trying to get Kyle to lose his cool and I doubt that is going to happen.

        The Friendly Grizzly in reply to mbecker908. | November 10, 2021 at 7:03 pm

        Kyle strikes me as how many more young men could be if brought up to be a man, and to be responsible for his actions starting at a young age. He was apparently raised right, and had many good examples set for him.

          It’s sometimes tough to get a sense of someone’s personality from a few video clips, but, my impression of Mr. Rittenhouse is that of a calm, affable and well-mannered teen. He comes across as genuinely regretful that anyone was killed that night, and, it’s obvious that the events still weigh on him, emotionally. That his freedom has been put in jeopardy because of his lawful exercise of lethal self-defense against obvious, imminent threats of serious bodily harm to his person, represents an act of total prosecutorial abuse and unethical conduct, as far as I’m concerned.

      tekovyahoser in reply to 59Apache. | November 10, 2021 at 5:38 pm

      What was the point of KR testifying? To allow the execrable Dungflinger a chance to give mini-speeches?

        My read of many self-defense cases is juries are unwilling to acquit without hearing from the defendant. Not what the 5th amendment says, but that is what they think.

        This is a high risk strategy. Decreases chance of a full conviction, but increases chance of a full acquittal.

This is the risk in testifying. Binger has been discussing 1 minute of events for several hours and is parsing every little inconsistency in his statement by comparing slow-motion video. As if anyone’s brain has perfect recollection, particularly when in panic mode.

What happened to the prosecution theory that Rittenhouse was chasing Rosenbaum? Then we have a theory that Rittenhouse provoked Rosenbaum. Then we have a theory that Rosenbaum was acting in self defense when Rittenhouse turned. How many times can the prosecution change theories in mid trial?

would someone please take Binger out behind the building and beat the snot out of him

“All he uses is one foot.”

Binger contends that a person kicking someone’s head, while the victim is lying on the ground, cannot possibly cause severe or lethal injury?

Such incredible dishonesty at work.

    aramissebastian in reply to guyjones. | November 11, 2021 at 8:18 am

    Binger’s point was idiotic.

    I think the defendant earlier made a point which makes inherent good sense that if he’d been stomped and rendered unconscious, at that point, all bets are off.

Kick someone in the face and your foot is considered a deadly weapon. Same with a skateboard.

    DaveGinOly in reply to KPOM1. | November 10, 2021 at 5:23 pm

    The defense should have brought in two cinder blocks, a work boot, and a skateboard, and then proceed to demonstrate the damage that can be done against the blocks with the other two items.

    Binger is suggesting that the fight wasn’t fair because GG had a handgun and KR had an AR. Does that mean GG should have been allowed to shoot first? (As Binger also suggested when he complains that GG hadn’t yet shot Kyle by the time Kyle blasted him.)

    “A handgun is what you use to fight your way to your rifle.”
    Clint Smith
    Grosskreutz should have attended a class at Thunder Ranch.

      mbecker908 in reply to DaveGinOly. | November 10, 2021 at 5:27 pm

      In close-quarter-battle which is what all of this is, I’ll take my Walther PPQ45 over a rifle any day, heck, every day. Much more mobile and, at least for me, much faster.

        Concur, though I’d be taking my Walther with dinky .40’s. With hollow-points, because Binger says they’re more safe.

        Brave Sir Robbin in reply to mbecker908. | November 11, 2021 at 12:24 am

        Hmmm, so the muzzle force of a .45 ACP is around 400lbs. The AR-15 is about 1,800. I think in a CQB situation, I would want that 425% greater stopping power. or the AR-15.

        Try never ever having to the need to shoot someone. But if you ever are placed in such a situation, you want decisive stopping power. Period.

        People can take an amazing amount of damage and keep going, at least for a limited time, long enough to kill you. That’s why 12 rounds of .45 ACP in your PPQ45 are better than 6 rounds of 38 special, and 30 rounds of 5.56 is better than 12 or even thirty rounds of 45 ACP.

        The AR-15 provides more bullets with greater stopping power. Why you would deliberately give that up is a mystery.

        You carry a pistol because it is more convenient to carry and, especially, conceal carry, not because it is a superior weapon in a gun fight.

        Clint Smith is damned right. In reality, a pistol is an emergency use weapon to be pulled when your rifle jams, malfunctions, or you run out of ammunition.

    tekovyahoser in reply to KPOM1. | November 10, 2021 at 5:39 pm

    Foot or hard-soled boot? Serious question.

Kyle’s answers are “right” emotionally but not in the legal sense. Hence Binger is asking those technical questions.

And that’s why Binger is harping on the “did you even care” angle for every person.

Midfiaudiophile | November 10, 2021 at 5:08 pm

I seem to have moved past the point where I can laugh at Binger’s idiocy and dishonesty. All I’m feeling right now is anger.

There should have been an objection to the “why is he, with a pistol, more of a threat…?” question.

Binger is drawing all this out — running out the clock so to speak — so that the jury will have all night to think about his cross without benefit of hearing re-direct from the defense.

I sort of wish that Rittenhouse’s attorneys had at least coached him to respond that he felt that everyone that he shot presented a threat of severe bodily harm to him.

That said, I think that the kid is holding up, pretty well. He just has to take the innuendo and answer truthfully.

    aramissebastian in reply to guyjones. | November 11, 2021 at 8:01 am

    As a trial lawyer, I can positively tell you that Rittenhouse was extremely well prepped.

    For someone so young, and with limited education and life experience, he handled a very stressful experience with a lot of poise and discipline.

    I put that down to exhaustive prep.

    Recall the military’s 6P’s: “Prior preparation prevents piss-poor performance.”

Binger is a total idiot. He thinks that one needs to be in a shooter’s stance to shoot a pistol.

*Thought experiment only* So wonder how Binger would react if someone walked up to him and requested one free all out kick to his head? I mean no knife, no gun, no baseball bat…so all ok bruh?

The continual “AR15” thing from Binger is so stupid.

It’s a .223 and he wants to make it seem like it was especially lethal.

To anyone that knows firearms that’s a joke and wrecks his credibility.

    xpaulso in reply to Northwoods. | November 10, 2021 at 5:18 pm

    He’s playing into the scary black guns narrative. But I have to assume there are at least a few Jury Members that know guns.

    RabidMongoose in reply to Northwoods. | November 10, 2021 at 5:34 pm

    Not to mention that he wants to make it seem like everybody who gets shot with an AR-15 will perish…while his own “star witness” in the case is a prime example of a threat that was stopped and survived.

Oh my god binger, do you even hear your ignorant babble.

Grosskreuse is standing there, with an AR-15 pointed at him, and he raises his Glock and moves towards the AR-15. Why wouldn’t Kyle feel threatened by Grosskreuse at that point? Grosskreuse obviously wasn’t intimidated by Kyle’s gun, or he wouldn’t have raised his own Glock and moved towards him. Was Kyle supposed to just lie there and wait for Grosskreuse to shoot him? Was Kyle supposed to wait for Grosskreuse to announce “Okay, I’m gonna shoot you now”? These questions are absolutely idiotic.

    sdharms in reply to Observer. | November 10, 2021 at 5:21 pm

    I think GG moved towards him and raised his gun because he saw KR look down and thought he saw and opportunity to shoot him.

      Observer in reply to sdharms. | November 10, 2021 at 5:35 pm

      Yep, that seems likely. It’s just so ridiculous for the prosecutor to keep insisting that Grosskreuse was obviously not going to shoot Kyle because of course Grosskreuse wouldn’t shoot somebody when he had an AR-15 pointed at him. Then why didn’t Grosskreuse drop his own gun and raise his hands at that point, instead of lifting his gun and pointing it at Kyle? That’s not how a fearful person responds to having an AR-15 pointed at them. Kyle can’t read minds. Just like with Rosenbaum, Kyle had to respond to what the attackers were doing, not what they might have been thinking. And Grosskreuse was raising his Glock and advancing towards Kyle, as he himself admitted in his own testimony. Kyle had every right and reason to shoot him at that point.

Do prosecutors generally want to seem like the most obtuse person in the room?

Something to consider on the paused drone footage that allegedly shows Rittenhouse “aiming his rifle” at Rausenbaum. Rittenhouse is photographed and videod throughout the night handling his rifle in the way that a right-handed person would. For that paused video to actually be him raising his rifle, it would mean he suddenly turned left-handed. As an avid shooter (who is even ambidextrous) myself, I find that nearly impossible to do.

    I dont think that paused video shows him raising his gun. I think it is a light pole that is front of him.

      RabidMongoose in reply to sdharms. | November 10, 2021 at 5:26 pm

      Yeah, you certainly don’t see a gun…it’s black against a black background anyway. They’re trying to insinuate that his hands are positioned in such a way that somebody would hold a gun, which is why the right-handed vs left-handed argument is valid imo.

      I think you are right, especially being kyle isn’t left handed. For that position to be pointing his gun it’d be left handed. I bet kyle is actually raising his hands in a don’t sit, hence that’s when he is saying friendly friendly friendly

        RabidMongoose in reply to [email protected]. | November 10, 2021 at 7:15 pm

        Another thing I was thinking about. My personal sling doesn’t even allow for me to switch my AR to my off-shoulder when the sling is attached. I don’t know if Kyle’s sling does allow it, as it might be a different style than mine, but another thing to consider.

Kyle’s a effing cross examination stud

Apparently, Binger thinks that one must wait to be shot before they can legitimately defend oneself.

No redirect. I guess they don’t want to give Binger another bite at that apple.

I realize DAs have a job to do. But I”d never trust one at all.

    guyjones in reply to xpaulso. | November 10, 2021 at 5:28 pm

    It’s a question of ethics and personal integrity, as with any other person who wields great power (and, prosecutors, representing the State, do wield great power).

    When you are dealing with a manifestly and unrepentantly dishonest and unethical prosecutor, the potential for abuse of that power is great.

      xpaulso in reply to guyjones. | November 10, 2021 at 5:37 pm

      I agree. But trial lawyers are very competitive by nature. They want to win. Every time I watch a trial, I feel the DA has little interest in finding the “truth”. But lots of interest in winning. I’m sure there are exceptions. I’ve also mostly watched high profile cases. Which is probably a significant factor in which ADA is picked and the pressure they’re under to win.

        guyjones in reply to xpaulso. | November 10, 2021 at 5:42 pm

        I get what you’re saying. Here’s the interesting thing about trials — each attorney on each side is supposed to argue his/her case zealously, but — and, this is key — within the ethical framework of the profession and the Model Rules of Professional Conduct. So, you can and should play hard, but, you shouldn’t cross the border into patently unethical and dishonest behavior.

        By prosecuting a case that is blatantly lacking in factual and evidentiary supports, and, by his dishonest conduct throughout the trial and before it (see Branca’s comments on Binger’s witness intimidation attempt, pre-trial) Binger and his associate have crossed the line into unethical conduct, and, should be held accountable.

It’s amazing that 99.9999% of the excrement that Binger tosses around has nothing to do with disproving the elements of the lawful exercise of lethal self-defense in this case; it’s all smoke and mirrors and diversionary tactics.

    Faren451 in reply to guyjones. | November 10, 2021 at 5:29 pm

    It’s literally all just trying to use the current mess of MAN WITH GUN BAD to convict him.

    xpaulso in reply to guyjones. | November 10, 2021 at 5:30 pm

    Is it possible it’s all for the Twitter and Washington Post crowds. These are all the arguments made by the crowd who believe you’re guilty if you carry a firearm. Binger has run for office previously. He’s now going to be a household name in Wisconsin. My theory is he’s preaching to choir.

      TargaGTS in reply to xpaulso. | November 10, 2021 at 6:20 pm

      I think he preaching to the one or more people who may be on that jury who feel exactly as you say about the Twitter/WaPoo crowds. That’s what’s he’s banking on. He’s going to say to the jury: See, had Kyle not carried this no-good awful dangerous weapon of war into protest he didn’t belong at, none of this would have happened. That’s his entire case. Provocation…by Rittenhouse .

      I hope the judge instructs the jury correctly and completely.

        xpaulso in reply to TargaGTS. | November 10, 2021 at 7:39 pm

        So would the goal be a hung jury? Because I find it impossible to believe the entire jury pool will buy into this. But I do agree its possible a few members might.

      aramissebastian in reply to xpaulso. | November 11, 2021 at 8:10 am

      My theory is, that after declining to prosecute the police officer involved in the Blake shooting, the DA’s office almost could not pass on the Rittenhouse prosecution.

      Otherwise, Kenosha risked looking like a latter-day Dodge, where anything goes, in terms of gun violence.

      The other thing to consider is, as has happened in other jurisdictions, if the Kenosha DA had declined to prosecute, maybe the Feds step in.

      And I can almost guarantee you that the FBI and DOJ team would be a whole ‘nother level of bad animal compared with the Kenosha DA.

WHY did his lawyers not do redirect????

That makes NO sense!

    OnePingOnly in reply to darwin. | November 10, 2021 at 5:27 pm

    Defense can recall him later.

    LetsGoBrandon in reply to darwin. | November 10, 2021 at 5:28 pm

    If you redirect, that gives Binger time to re cross. They want to get in another witness so that the jury has something else to think about over the holiday.

    mbecker908 in reply to darwin. | November 10, 2021 at 5:30 pm

    Because then Binger gets another bite at the apple and my guess is his Defense Counsel probably (and probably correctly) believes that Binger hurt his case more than he hurt Kyle. Plus, they can cover anything else on closing arguments.

Wow the State’s case here as really evolved. Now they want to lock him up for the rest of his life because he didn’t stop and render aid to the people he shot in self defense…?

Prosecution won’t get to re-cross KR about the video

Don’t think ADA landed a glove. The thuth is hard to beat!

I would like a copy of the cross, KR did it right

Rittenhouse displays grace under fire. On the street and in the courtroom. Lets Go Kyle

Wow, that was intense! Kyle did ok and hopefully the jury saw him as the victim of both his attackers and Binger, but Binger was as sly as the devil. Kyle was not as sharp to what Binger was doing with im, and Kyle’s will to fight back declined as the cross went on. Seemed like Kyle may have even lost faith in himself at times because of Binger’s confidence and persistence. Tough to watch. Tough to know whether taking the stand was the right thing to do after watching all that. Very surprised the defense did not re-direct immediately. I think they should have.

    jhkrischel in reply to foospro86. | November 10, 2021 at 5:33 pm

    I think Kyle’s lack of artifice lent way more credibility. His inability to see around the corners of Binger’s attacks was a feature, not a bug. Watching him struggle was a feature, not a bug, of putting him on the stand.

      foospro86 in reply to jhkrischel. | November 10, 2021 at 5:52 pm

      Yes, but I also said that he looked like he may have even lost faith in himself at times because of Binger’s confidence and persistence and traps. That is not a good look in front of the jury. Nothing that conveys any tinge of consciousness of guilt is good. Don’t want to convey anything that the jury could interpret that way.

Wonder what Kyle is holding one finger up to before he approaches the bench right before camera pans to the picture

Binger ought to volunteer to carry the AR-15 strapped to him while someone tries to take it away. Grab the barrel, jerk it out of his hand, smack him in the face with the butt a few times, disarm him… The bloke is a bleeding idiot.

    What are odd’s Binger has never been in a street fight in his life? It’s easy to think of it from a third person point of view if you never actually experienced someone trying their hardest to injure you.

Binger had the gall to ask Kyle why he did not check to see of these three men are alive or dead and if alive, stopped to help treat them.

Stupid questions!!

    sdharms in reply to lurker9876. | November 10, 2021 at 6:17 pm

    and he kept asking “how do you think so and so felt having a gun pointed at him”.. Stupid. I wish Kyle had kept saying, GG was the aggressor. JR was the aggressor, and Huber ws the aggressor.

Got to love the cops interpretation of their interaction with KR after the shootings. He didn’t act like the normal perp trying to turn himself in because he is not a perp. So they pepper spray him and tell him to get the F away. The Binger wants to make a big deal about Kyle turning himself into the cops in Kenosha, but they did not want to take him when he tried.

Sounds like the judge is working with the number of 30 rounds, but fails to understand that if there was one in the pipe with a full mag, there were 31 rounds to account for.

Binky looking to earn a woketivist merit badge today with either a contempt charge, a mistrial, or both.

The irony is that Rittenhouse will, in fact, be very famous after this trial, although I imagine he would rather NOT be so because of how polarizing he is.

Rittenhouse is a guy with incredible trigger discipline and incredible composure considering the circumstances of that night and in court with this flailing drama queen.

I guess they are not taking the holiday. They are talking about being there tomorrow.

Has the judge ruled on the motion on declaring a mistrial with prejudice?

At this point, I think the prosecution’s best hope is to farm out some jury intimidation, and go for a mistrial.

After all the other lines this douche-canoe of a prosecutor has crossed, that wouldn’t be too much of a stretch.

For those that don’t remember Dr. Black, who is testifying first thing tomorrow, is the Use of Force expert that spoke via Zoom in the pretrial basically saying Rittenhouse was justified in the shootings.

Was there no redirect? We’re Kyles defense team asleep?

    59Apache in reply to gonzotx. | November 10, 2021 at 6:29 pm

    They can recall him later if they want. No need to subject him to more today. He took a tedious beating on the cross like a champ and, to me, came off far better in the exchange than ADA Binger.

    Depending on how the next couple of days go, a short recall direct could be useful to reinforce he feared for his life/safety each time he fired is weapon. Could also be useful to play the various tapes at full speed for the jury to reiterate how fast things actually happen, but assume that will happen with the use of force expert in any event. Life doesnt happen frame by frame.

    aramissebastian in reply to gonzotx. | November 11, 2021 at 8:12 am

    As a trial lawyer, you quit while you’re ahead.

    You’re literally holding your breath while your client testifies.

    He’s gotta’ do it.

    But you want him off the stand ASAP.

To all the arm chair lawyers 10,000 miles away from the defendant saying it was a bad idea to put Kyle on the stand… just tally the score of which side has dropped the ball consistently throughout this trial and which team has scored consistently.

One side knows what they are doing.

    Midfiaudiophile in reply to Andy. | November 10, 2021 at 7:32 pm

    Sir, are you accusing all of us of being Australian Disinformation?

    Think38 in reply to Andy. | November 10, 2021 at 7:32 pm

    I don’t understand all the moves the defense team makes. Agree with the observation, however, that they are purposeful in what they are doing. First time in a long time in one of these public trials that the defense team is not being outlawyered.

      Chauvin’s team did a great job and arguably kicked the crap out of the prosecution. However this mistook it for a trial and not a lynching. Don’t bring a lawyer to a lynching. That is also my fear in this case. Since the miscreants in this case were white, I think KR might have a better chance… also curious if Schroeder has the stones to call it “with prejudice.”

        luckystars33 in reply to Andy. | November 10, 2021 at 9:19 pm

        Tide has turned. If your own grocery store was put out of business over a year ago.
        You’re thinking of this race riots has shifted.
        See the wins Republicans had a week ago, everywhere.

The defense’s Use-of-Force expert should make for interesting and educational viewing. I expect him to underscore the obvious — to wit, when a person who has just cursed you and chased you and otherwise expressed hostility towards you is attempting to grab your rifle from you; when a person is hitting you on the head with a wooden skateboard; when a person is pointing a handgun at your head from a distance of a few feet; these are all instances of the threat of imminent deadly harm to one’s person that justify the legitimate and lawful exercise of deadly force in self-defense.

Usually, it’s the defense trying to obscure and mischaracterize the facts. I’ve never seen a trial where it’s the prosecution doing it.

All in all I think Kyle saved Kyle. I was not for him taking the stand. I did not know the kid is a GOAT. He cleaned Bingers clock and won his case. His courage in the face of the entire government and media is medal of honor level. I wish to thank Kyle for reminding me of my own duty to resist these immoderate oversocialized communists.


First: kicking someone is felony assult because you can kill someone with the legs.
Second: I believe this case is going to shift the “Don’t put the defendant on the stand.”
Chauvin should have testified as to him doing a hold that he was trained to do by the police dept. And the same hold for overdose and the fact that the EMT’s took too long to respond.

The defense slowed down the video then went frame by frame to avoid the chaos this kid was facing in seconds with each attack. Like he had time to think about things before saving his own life.

It’s a trivial point, but if Binger knows anything about bullets at all then he is pathological liar for “testifying” (nice to see judge Schroeder catch him on that) to one falsehood after another about the difference between FMJs and hollow-points.

FMJs are specifically designed shoot through multiple bodies? No, they are REQUIRED by the Geneva Convention which outlawed “dumb-dumbs” (the hundred year old term for hollow-points) on the bizarre grounds that dumb-dumbs are designed to expand and hence to be more lethal.

A lethal weapon of war? Heaven forbid. Signatories to the Convention had to SETTLE for the less lethal FMJs, and Binger pretends that the FMJs are some super-lethal, made for the super-lethality of war, kind of round.

Likely Binger is a total ignoramus, since he calls cartridges “bullets,” and at one point seems to think that the “jacket” refers to the cartridge case, until Kyle corrects him. Then the judge corrects him on his lunatic idea that hollow-points don’t over-penetrate.

Some hollow-points expand super quick and do a large amount of relatively shallow damage, but any kind of hunting hollow-point is designed to penetrate a couple of feet of flesh. Yet there is Binger on- and-on declaring the facts of things he at best knows nothing about. He’s gotta be on some kind of YOLO mission.