Diplomat Blames the Victims: State Dept. Warned Americans to Leave Afghanistan Every Three Weeks Since April
“People chose not to leave. That’s their business. That’s their right.”
President Joe Biden’s administration is losing in Afghanistan and in the U.S.
They’ve reached the victim-blaming portion of the argument.
CBS News anchor Norah O’Donnell asked Ross Wilson why the U.S. did not get out Americans and our Afghan allies before everything went downhill.
Ross: We put out repeated warnings every three weeks to Americans going back to, I think, March or April. Each one in stronger terms to leave now, leave immediately. Never in my 40 years in my working at the State Department have I seen such strong language used. People chose not to leave. That’s their business. That’s their right. We regret now that many may find themselves in a position they’d rather not be in. We are determined to try to help them.
Top U.S. diplomat says the State Department put out repeated warnings every three weeks to Americans in Afghanistan telling them to leave since April: “People chose not to leave. That's their business," Ross Wilson said. pic.twitter.com/hr5HlLxA0F
— CBS Evening News (@CBSEveningNews) August 26, 2021
Okay, Mr. Wilson. What strong language did the State Department use? Biden said in July the Taliban wouldn’t take over Afghanistan. We heard the Taliban didn’t have the capabilities to take over Afghanistan. We heard that even if they ever did take over Afghanistan it would be about in six months.
We also heard the U.S Embassy in Kabul would remain open and safe.
So what is it? Who is lying? Is everyone lying? Oh, who am I kidding? It’s the government. All they do is lie.
Shame on you, Mr. Wilson.
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He’s saying that. My reaction is ‘show me the memos, apparatchik’.
Any bureaucrat with a lick of brains should have appropriately dated copies of every announcement to GTFO or else.
Same questions here.
And, if they’re telling everyone to get out, why were they also signing new contracts with US companies to have people there past the withdraw? We’re just planning on them breaking contract or something?
For once I gotta agree with progressive diplomat.
It takes a special kinda stupid to visit a war zone – especially when it’s known that its being abandoned
These people weren’t there visiting Fantasy Island East. They were war-effort support staff.
I have a difficult time believing that. Especially given that at least one group is school kids and their parents from California. The contractors for the Afghan military are tied directly to our embassy and our military, based on other places I’ve seen that arrangement.
But, if you can provide a source for that, I’m willing to have my mind changed.
Typical lefties. Blame the victims. They probably think rape victims brought it upon themselves. Shouldn’t have worn that dress! Most of these people are contractors working with the Afghan army.. Gotta love the Biden administration – referring to some Americans as wanting to stay in Afghanistan. That’s obscene.
Unfortunately, Hillary Clinton and Obama got the wrong American ambassador murdered.
https://www.daveschultz.com/2020/07/the-real-story-behind-benghazi/
Exactly as many predicted. There will be thousands of Americans stranded in Afghanistan, and someone will have to be blamed if they are killed or taken hostage. Now Wilson has given the Joseph Goebbels media the excuse to ignore their grim fate. Apparently the “blame Trump” and the “greatest successful airlift in history!” lies were flopping with the public, so now it’s the victims’ turn to be pilloried.
Be thankful that Carter didn’t think to try a similar dodge in 1979 with the American hostages held by Iran.
Carter couldn’t because Iran wasn’t a war zone in a sh*thole. It was also primarily people actually assigned to work there by our gov’t. It didn’t involve any kids on summer break.
Biden makes Carter look like Churchill.
Biden was always known as a half-wit poser. Now he’s the fake president, but president he is.
Sadly, that’s what it’s taken to finally prove him to be a half-wit poser.
Wait till Harris comes in. And wait till we see the insane VP the democrats bring in – with McConnell’s and Graham’s help, of course.
Not the best attempt at spin. In fairness Afghanistan isn’t Costa Rica and State almost certainly put out increasingly severe warnings. The problem is the public DC message from DoD the IC and WH contradicted the warnings.
Had Mr Wilson been truly concerned he would have chosen to publicly state his concerns about the worst case scenario; attempting an evacuation of US Citizens in the aftermath of the collapse of the Afghan govt.
He and the rest of the Embassy staff chose not to do so. Rocking the boat and truth telling is generally not appreciated in govt service. My career was directly impacted by my refusal to quote the party line. That’s part of the job which he and others seem to have ignored.
The left never leaves their playbook.
They sure leave it in our schools for everyone to see.
It’s like telling your undocumented, non-English-speaking sweatshop employees, “You know, this place is a firetrap, you’d really be well advised to start looking for work in the fast food industry.”
“Don’t blame us! We have been warning those stupid Americans to leave every 3 weeks since April. They’ve had plenty of warning. Everybody who wanted leave was able to leave. It’s all their fault. We didn’t even have to go the airport and fly anyone out. That was just a courtesy showing we were willing to go above and beyond the call of duty. Our hands are clean of this mess. As a matter of fact, we are heroes. We deserve a medal!”
There’s been a suicide bombing and firefight at Abbey Gate, Kandahar airport. Multiple casualties are being reported, including US troops.
What a fucking mess.
There’s been a second bombing, and an ongoing firefight at Kandahar airport.
It’s starting. It will only get worse.
It’s going to get worse HERE because martial law is coming:
Woke US soldier says she’ll shoot Americans who disobey her if martial law is declared:
https://twitter.com/TWines4congress/status/1431078931705303041
Did they warn them the Taliban could overthrow the existing government in only a few days? And that the Taliban security forces would melt away in a day or two?
Quite the contrary. Comrade Biden publicly stated in July it would not and could not happen. The Biden admin was completely caught by the surprise at the speed with which the Taliban took over.
But, according to the admin, Americans in Afghanistan should have known better.
To paraphrase the immortal words of Otter, ‘You American citizens in Afghanistan f**ked up. You Trusted Us.”
Elitist authoritarian totalitarian fascist governments can do no wrong. It is the peasants who repeatedly let them down and who deserve whatever they get.
U.S. Embassy Afghanistan:
Blame the victims. That’s the new watchword for the Biden Administration.
Ross Wilson, the Acting US Ambassador in Afghanistan, said on Thursday his office was making ‘phone calls’ but that many Americans didn’t leave when they had the chance and are now on their own.
“People chose not to leave – that’s their business, that’s their right.”
Pontius Pilot couldn’t have done a better job of washing his hands of responsibility than these people have.
What kind of plane did he fly?
JC33?
Biden’s stains are more indelible than were Lady Macbeth’s. Errors of omission stain more profoundly.
Wash wash wash
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The simplest explanation is, I think, the best.
No one believed the pullout would happen, and so no one planned for it.
Everyone believed Joe could be talked out of it.
Because he’s a democrat, and democrats always talk about getting out of wars, but never do. And, dementia.
Benghazi should have been a clue.
I would add that the Pentagon and the State Department really believed that a majority of people in Afghanistan would reject Islam in favor of the woke intersectionality they were pushing.
And loads of Americans believed that simply because the US presence was there, keeping things ‘safe’, that safety would continue indefinitely – because Progressive fallacies.
Ding! We have a winner. When Trump said we were getting out, the Left promptly went into “Everything he’s for, we’re against” mode. The generals fought the idea like rabid weasels, the State department refused to admit it, and thousands of Afghans believed Biden was going to double-back and keep the US forces in the country since we had been there 20 years already.
Anybody with a shred of common sense fled the country before January. (military excepted, because obvious)
And embassy folks exempted, as well.
Here’s an even simpler explanation:
“If you cannot understand why someone did something, look at the consequences—and infer the motivation.”
– Carl Jung
The savages were starting to advance months ago and nobody seemed to notice. If I was working in a hellhole like South Asia and the political scene was starting to change in a dangerous direction, I’d pay attention to messages telling me to leave – especially if they were coming every few weeks and they were getting more alarming each time. Whistling past the grave yard might end with being an occupant of it.
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You would think. However, people stay in all sorts of stupid places: Portland, Minneapolis, St. Louis, Chicago, NYC, California, Massachusetts — all because of the Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt of having to give up a secure paycheck for an unknown future. It’s too easy to underestimate lifestyle inertia. Prior to the Recent Unpleasantness, was living in the pacified areas of Kabul really more dangerous than living in the block next door to CHAZ? I wonder.
Downvoted by mistake – should have been an upvote. Apologies.
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Main Street in America will soon be the most dangerous place – because of the new traitors US military:
Woke US soldier says she’ll shoot Americans who disobey her if martial law is declared:
https://twitter.com/TWines4congress/status/1431078931705303041
This lunatic wouldn’t have posted this if she wasn’t being trained for it.
The other aspect is that serious people who are foreigners living and working in a sh*thole war zone make plans to bug out including exit routes and plenty of bribe and travel funds ($ and local). But too many Americans aren’t serious people any more – look at how many voted for Biden. (Yes, there was fraud, but any number over 25% means a lot of unserious people voting.)
Were his staff advised to stay or could they evacuate starting in April, how many were required to stay?
Why were they allowing people to travel into the country on any type of visa after April?
I can believe that government employees, embassy staff and federal contractors stayed to the last minute, but I can’t for the life of me understand why anyone would think that Afghanistan would be a great place to spend summer vacation for a bunch of schoolgirls.
Because they’re stupid cloistered liberals who think that it’s ‘islamophobia’ to call it dangerous. There are people out there that REALLY ARE that stupid. Like the couple that decided to bike across the Middle East to prove that they weren’t violent (and got murdered by a fanatic in a car), or that dumbass group of hikers that got held hostage by Iran for years.
Maybe so, but beside the point. Even if it were safe, what’s the possible draw? Hey kids—wanna see how people used to live at the dawn of civilization?
Hollywood idiots are emailing each other furiously, trying to learn the ‘spin’, and repeat it like the moronic, destructive zombies they are.
They were Afghan natives taking their children to see their grandparents for the last time. They got clearance from the State department and were assured it was safe to get in/out in the timeframe they planned on going.
So then, Ross Wilson = verified liar.
That makes them doubly stupid – once for trusting State (or anybody else in the Biden* Cartel) and the other for actually going.
*Named for the titular head of the organization. The identity of the real godfather/mother remains currently a matter of speculation.
Let’s face it: our government is a Junta. There are the elites, and there are the rest of us.
And we’re about to see how ‘elite’ the elites really are:
Woke US soldier says she’ll shoot Americans who disobey her if martial law is declared:
https://twitter.com/TWines4congress/status/1431078931705303041
Ruben Gallego says they went in spite of warnings from State.
I am beyond disgusted at this administration. They are mean spirited, cruel and cavalier about people’s lives. If the GOP doesn’t run ads with these statements every day during the next election, then they deserve to be turned out of office as well. The GOP is silent in the face of utter incompetency and destruction–where the hell are they?
GOP Virtue Signals Loudly, Takes Fuck-All Concrete Action
And missing from the title picture – any trace of the so-called ‘leadership’.
STOP with “the GOP oughta”! They’re part of it!!
The sham of us anyone of us calling ourselves ‘Republicans” or giving money to the GOP is beyond STUPID.
If McConnell and Graham don’t convince you, you’re as willfully blind as any narcissitic woke college student.
I remember when the State Department bugged out of Iraq, and left the military to grow its own anthropologists.
I remember the State Department buying boatloads of Obama’s books.
I remember the State Department refusing to take down Obama’s portraits after President Trump took office.
Is it just me, or is this just another talking point that makes The Biden Bugout and Hurricane Katrina two sides of the same coin?
If by two sides you mean that they dumped tons of valuable military armaments onto the occupants of Afghanistan, and confiscated tons of private armanents from occupants during Katrina, then I guess yes.
This is nothing but a bunch of ass-covering by the incompetents that work for the pedophile-in-chief.
1. I am sure the gov’t really did issue increasingly strident warnings to Americans to get out of the shit hole.
2. Some of the Americans — such as “contractors”, whether oil company employees or mercenaries — ignored the warnings, and I do blame the victims. They took the chance, and it worked out poorly for them.
3. Some of the Americans are Afgans who were visiting family and friends, and I don’t r4eally care about them.
I don’t really care about these people and I am not willing to pay one penny to ransom them.
And it’s not victim blaming if you’re pointing out the actions they took to get themselves into the situation.
Also, it’s not wrong to blame Biden and his admin for the entirely bungled withdrawal.
Ironically, it’s the same progressive mindset that is partly at fault in both.
Diplomat? Someone who would say something like this isn’t even human.
Ross: We put out repeated warnings every three weeks to Americans going back to, I think, March or April. Each one in stronger terms to leave now, leave immediately.
Note how disingenuously he omits that at that time the US had Bagram with all its air support facilities functional, and statements from the US that such support would keep the Afghan forces in business. Those Americans likewise counted on that strength and saw no reason to bail. Then suddenly in June, with no warning, Bagram was abandoned and all that air support with it, leaving the Taliban ‘unexpectedly’ in control and those Americans now royally hosed.
Worst White House governance ever.
And they still didn’t leave in the two months between that stupidity and now.
As soon as they started spinning “those that want to leave” we all knew what their new narrative would be…disgusting