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House Republicans Vote Out Liz Cheney as House GOP Conference Chair

House Republicans Vote Out Liz Cheney as House GOP Conference Chair

No date for a vote to replace Cheney. Rep. Elise Stefanik is the frontrunner.

The inevitable happened. House Republicans ousted Rep. Liz Chenery as House GOP Conference Chair, the #3 leadership spot, in a closed-door vote:

Cheney had remained steadfast in her opposition to former President Donald Trump and his “dangerous lies” about the 2020 election being stolen from him — putting her at odds with other House Republicans who wanted to move on from the Jan. 6 riot and unite the party to win in the 2022 midterms.

Cheney was removed by a voice vote and took a swing at Trump after the Capitol meeting.

“I will do everything I can to ensure that the former president never again gets anywhere near the Oval Office,” Cheney said after the vote. “We have seen the danger that he continues to provoke with his language. We have seen his lack of commitment and dedication to the Constitution, and I think it’s very important that we make sure whomever we elect, is somebody who will be faithful to the Constitution.”

An election on who will replace Cheney will occur at a later date. Rep. Elise Stefanik, R-N.Y., is the front runner who has the endorsement of Trump and the top two GOP leaders: Reps. Kevin McCarthy and Steve Scalise.


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don’t let the door hit you on the way out. you can also schedule the moving company for Jan. 2023

thad_the_man | May 12, 2021 at 10:57 am

Lixz go hunting with your Dad.


Liz says she doesn’t think her removal is supported by the ordinary Republican Party membership.

I wonder what color the sky is in Liz’ world?

    Hell, in her own district the “ordinary Republican Party membership” wanted her disciplined — it was the party elites that initially protected her.

    Election Day is coming.

    UserP in reply to MattMusson. | May 12, 2021 at 11:43 am

    What she meant to say is, her removal is not supported by the democrat party membership. Of course she is enthusiastically supported by democrats, even OJ Simpson supports her. If the glove doesn’t fit you must quit.

    This uproar of establishment grifter trash is well coordinated. They’re as treasonous as any democrat.

    Donald Trump is.proving to be a genius on a level at least I didnt understand.

    The Puppet/Slut administration is about as treasonous as we predicted.

    Dumbass Kamala Harris will become presidenr during the greatest crisis in US hostory.

    Get ready.

    henrybowman in reply to MattMusson. | May 12, 2021 at 7:11 pm

    I wish I were naive enough to believe that this is a case of the GOP choosing to serve its constituency over one of its own rent-seekers. But I’m waiting for the other shoe to drop — it may have the real reason inside it.

      Skepticism noted . . . but . . . this is the first time since ’09 we actually had a voice. And that is owing to President Trump. Do you not see what is happening? The GOP is not, for the first time in decades, the GOPe but a party that actually listens to the people. Sort of. The GOP hates the people just as much as the Dems do, but for once, we have a voice, and they are purging their own loser RINOs on their own. A lot quit during the Trump presidency, in protest, and we cheered. More are babbling about a third party, oh PLEASE do that!! Nothing could be better for a populist, Trump GOP. He’s winning, and that means we are. Let them all fail, quit, shuffle off to their own doomed party. Who the hell cares? The GOP is getting stronger with every win, with every resignation of #NeverTrump losers. Keep it going.

        MattMusson in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | May 13, 2021 at 7:07 am

        I was at the county GOP precinct chair meeting last week. Every chair I talked to is an enthusiastic MAGA supporter. Several specifically mentioned purging the party of anyone who does not have enough backbone to stand up for the People.

        henrybowman in reply to Fuzzy Slippers. | May 14, 2021 at 2:33 am

        Well, the shoe is skidding down the hallway. The prime contender, Stefanik, is way worse on immigration than Cheney. Because of that, another contender, Chip Roy, is stepping up to the plate who is way better than both on immigration… but caved early on certifying the 2020 election. Trump vastly prefers Stefanik, but frankly the man’s hiring decisions have been almost literally suicidal so far and should be viewed with that kept in mind.

“I will do everything I can to ensure that the former president never again gets anywhere near the Oval Office,” Cheney said after the vote. “We have seen the danger that he continues to provoke with his language. We have seen his lack of commitment and dedication to the Constitution, and I think it’s very important that we make sure whomever we elect, is somebody who will be faithful to the Constitution.”

Amazing. As though the rioting, burning, looting and murdering that ran wild in major cities last year and that was openly supported and encouraged by Biden*, Harris, and other Communist leaders never happened.

Face the truth, Liz: Your actions were never about the Constitution. This is about your deranged warmongering in the Middle East. This is about your desire to ram open borders and gun control down our throats.

    So what you are saying is that provided it’s Trump attacking the constitution that’s ok then is it. As far as I can tell there is no good angle for Cheney, she is simply stating what’s true, that is claiming that there was election fraud in 2020 is a lie that is being repeated ad nausium by DT.

      Do go on, please…..

      chrisboltssr in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 11:55 am

      Yes, but assholes like you can keep saying there was Russian collusion which caused Trump to win in 2016. F outta here, you and your lying behind.

        mark311 in reply to chrisboltssr. | May 12, 2021 at 1:28 pm

        It’s a matter of public record that the internet research group provided propaganda that broadly speaking was supportive of DT. Calling me a layer won’t change that fact.

        I don’t actually see what that has to do with what I stated but hey.

          chrisboltssr in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 1:56 pm

          I called you a liar, not a layer. And no, there is no evidence whatsoever supporting your stupidity that Russia helped get Trump elected, fool.

          mark311 in reply to mark311. | May 13, 2021 at 2:07 am


          Here is the link to the US intelligence communities report on the issue. It’s the declassified version (obviously)

          It’s pretty clear that the intelligence community considered the Russian interference to be directly aimed at assisting DT in 2016.

          You don’t get to claim it’s a lie when the professionals have examined the issue in detail. If you can prove your point fine but it’s striking that people like you seem to invoke the perjorative ‘lie’ as a means of avoiding the truth. Ironic really.

          Brave Sir Robbin in reply to mark311. | May 13, 2021 at 9:09 am

          Mark, what you have produced is a public accusation not actually backed by any verified fact. The report is quite laughable. I guess Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol Pot, Castro, Al Capone, etc., all added things to the public record. So what?

          Funny thing happened though. One of the two entities so accused by the
          “intelligence community” and DOJ to be interfering with the US election for Trump actually begged to differ with this accusation, so added some more to the “public record” by actually showing up in court and demanding the US government prove its accusations in the court of law. Then, the US government added more to the public record by, in March 2020, withdrawing its accusations.

          Click your heels Mark! Obey your leaders. Never, ever question. Just obey.

          mark311 in reply to mark311. | May 14, 2021 at 3:21 am


          What, Trump ran the US gov so what’s the take away from it withdrawing something (no that I’m actually sure precisely what you are referring too). This is in context if the US Senate making a bipartisan conclusion that the assessment is accurate.

          So lets be clear on what you are really saying, you are saying that US intelligence as a whole just lied for no particular reason in order to be mean to Trump. Oh do grow up BSR. No one has made a claim on how effective that Russian interference was just that it was pervasive and took place. That’s just fact, there is no getting around that. All your argument seems to entail is that its lies which seems to be a common Trump trope oh no its a nothing burger, its lies its a disgrace. Never actually ever addressing the substance of the claim. You want to root for the biggest liar that’s ever been president fine; but don’t expect the rest of the human race to buy that particularly precarious article of faith.

      mailman in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 11:55 am

      Please do provide examples of these “attacks” on the constitution you talk about. By example I mean a REAL example, not some fucked up made up Democrat bullshit.

        mark311 looks at the photo of Trump hugging the flag and thinks it’s a mugging or sexual assault.

        mark311 in reply to mailman. | May 12, 2021 at 1:33 pm


        “Lawsuit alleging violations of the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
        Knight First Amendment Institute v. Trump[11]
        CNN v. Trump
        U.S. WeChat Users Alliance v. Trump
        Lawsuit alleging violations of the Fifth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
        Department of Homeland Security v. Regents of the University of California (the DACA lawsuit)
        New York v. Trump (another DACA lawsuit)
        Vidal v. Nielsen (another DACA lawsuit)
        Lawsuit alleging violations of the Fourteenth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
        Stone v. Trump
        Lawsuits alleging violations of the Foreign Emoluments Clause of the United States Constitution
        CREW v. Trump
        D.C. and Maryland v. Trump[12][13][14]
        Blumenthal v. Trump[15]
        U.S. Constitutional case law lawsuit filed by the United States House Committee on the Judiciary to compel the testimony of former White House Counsel Donald F. McGahn, Jr. under subpoena.”

        There are other allegations of course but the ones above are being litigated

          MarkSmith in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 5:32 pm

          “Lawsuit alleging violations of the First Amendment to the U.S.

          If you knew anything about those cases, they are BS cases.

          DACA was unconstitutional from the get-go, you moron. But honestly, you are the lowest of the low to pretend that leftie lawsuits against the Trump admin are, in themselves, evidence of wrong doing. You do know that every president is subjected to lawsuits, that they don’t mean anything or ever come to much. EVERY president is challenged, so if you believe these challenges are “proof” of wrong-doing, you have to explain every other such charge against every other president, including Biden whose admin is already being sued for a wide range of travesties. Do these numerous lawsuits from Republican govs and AGS mean Biden is a guilty pig guilty of being guilty? You can’t be this stupid (well, I have long believed that you are exactly this stupid, but that’s just me.).

          You are such a ridiculous joke that’s it’s becoming embarrassing to even respond to you. Get a clue, do some more troll training, and get back to us when you are worth engaging . . . because right now, you are just a silly little gnat of a parrot of a joke.

          mark311 in reply to mark311. | May 13, 2021 at 2:09 am


          I do know plenty about those cases, I’ve railed against Trump on this site for ages. You know what in my view there is a strong bases for the allegations.

          You’ve been commenting on LI “for ages”? Um, no, you are a very very new commenter here, mark311. Most of us have been here for at least a decade, many others for at least a year or more. You haven’t even been here for six months. Your first comment was on December 8, 2020.

          Is that like that time you drove 50K miles a year? And all that while you were also here at LI trotting out your trollery?

          I’m eagerly awaiting your reply, @mark311. The last time I considered less than six months “ages,” I think I was about five years old and my mommy told me to wait for my new roller skates because Santa (Father Christmas) would bring them soon. This was like in August. Christmas was AGES away. When I was five. How old are you, Mark, that you imagine you have been commenting on this blog for “ages”? And driving 50K miles a year in your personal car, in the UK?

          mark311 in reply to mark311. | May 13, 2021 at 2:14 am

          @ Fuzzy slippers

          Of course I’m aware that many presidents have been challenged in terms of the constitutionality of the laws the pass. But where Trump differs is that it is the way he behaves that breaches those laws. You seem to think that that’s acceptable. It’s not.

          Wait, what? So the Supremes effectively stating that Obama had no constitutional authority to affect DACA via executive order makes his lawlessness okay . . . because he BEHAVES better? Do you hear yourself? You must be the laughingstock at troll workshops.

      UserP in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 11:56 am

      Of course that is not what he is saying Mark. That’s what you’re saying. You come here and twist stuff about and pat your little self on the back and think in your own mind that you are clever. Go back to troll school Mark and get the help you need.

        mark311 in reply to UserP. | May 12, 2021 at 1:44 pm


        That’s pretty much implied in what was stated. People like you seem to be quite happy to pile vitriol on others but when it comes to looking in the mirror you can do no wrong apparently. Especially when it comes to DT.

          healthguyfsu in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 9:06 pm

          You are lousy at sourcing and continue to fail every time you arrive. I don’t know what your agenda is, but if it is changing anyone’s mind you don’t stand a chance. You have to do more than spit party BS glossed over with a few feints towards fake bipartisanship.

          Of course, that’s not your real agenda anyways. Your real agenda is fulfilling some kind of weak inadequacy in your own life vicariously through internet trolling. Hope it helps.

          Barry in reply to mark311. | May 13, 2021 at 1:29 am

          Look, he’s a paid marxist shill. He and his comrades that hang around here,

          Don’t think for a moment that just because it’s stupid squared that it doesn’t collect pay for the lies it spreads.

          mark311 in reply to mark311. | May 13, 2021 at 2:11 am



          An entertaining comment indeed.

          I just can’t stand BS , and there is a lot of it on this site.

      What the hell are you babbling about?

    She has Stage 4 Trump Derangement Syndrome, that’s all.

    Hopefully Wyoming voters will do everything they can to ensure that the former GOP Conference Chair Liz Cheney never again gets anywhere near the levers of power. We citizens have seen the danger that she continues to provoke with her language, and we have seen her lack of commitment and dedication to the Constitution, and we citizens think it’s very important that we make sure whomever Wyoming elects is somebody who will be faithful to the Constitution.

    And that person is clearly not Liz Cheney. Good riddance.

    Idonttweet in reply to Recovering Lutheran. | May 12, 2021 at 1:51 pm

    Just the fact that Schumer and Pelosi spoke out in support of Cheney should tell you that getting rid of her was the right thing to do.

    Liz just wants to complete her “chicken hawk” Dad’s unfinished work – start WWIII.


The media play up discord within the Repub Party. They never explain what it’s all about.

This is a fight between ESTABLISHMENT wing of the Party and the POPULIST wing.

The Democrats had a similar fight. Their fight was between Clinton/Biden vs Sanders. They resolved it by incorporating some Populist concepts in their agenda. The media essentially downplayed the Democrat schism – but the loudly proclaim the end of the Repub Party despite the fact that it is, at its core, the same fight.

..o . Establishment politicians believe the people are to be RULED. They want in big government, globalism, big donors and career politicians.

..o . Populists believe government serves the people – not the other way around. They believe in personal liberty, democracy and the sovereignty of man (rights that government cannot take – such as described in the Bill of Rights). Sanders Populists believe in all of the above but also want government to set rules that limit wealth disparity. Trump Populists believe wealth disparity is best moderated by free markets.

Establishment types are afraid of the Populists. So much so that the DNC actually secretly supported Clinton over Sanders in 2016. Sander campaign even sued the DNC over this. in 2020, the DNC pretended to be neutral – but the Establishment full backed Biden.

Each Party, D and R, have Establishment wing and a Populist wing. The Dem have moved further away from Populism and toward Establmentarianism. Establishment types in each Party have a lot in common. That’s why for years people complained that there was not much difference between the Parties. It was the advent of the Tea Party that pushed the Repubs toward Populism.

Anyway, Liz Cheney, All the Bushes and Mitt Romney – they are all Establishment wing of the Repub Party. The Repub Party moved away from Establishment and toward Populism in the age of Trump. Trump rightly saw that the Repub Party could not survive in the Establishment lane. He also saw that people were rejecting the “traditional politicians” like Clinton. The media tries to smear Populism by equating it with Trump – but Populism is bigger than just one man.

Removing Liz Cheney is just living up to reality. As an Establishment type, she should never have been in leadership role in a Party that has adopted a Populist agenda. Establishment types are the “Never Trump” folks. What they really mean is “Never Populism”. Rulers want to rule.

The question is – which are you? A Populist or an Establishmentist ?

I am a conservative Populist.

FYI – the Founding Fathers were populists.

    mark311 in reply to Ben Kent. | May 12, 2021 at 11:28 am

    Were they? There was me thinking the founding fathers formed the constitution as a system of checks and balances to prevent populist take over. Even looking at who the founding fathers were paints a very different picture, very rich powerful individuals. Hell the constitution didn’t have universal voting rights until later.

    I’d also point out that the establishment as you call them voted against sending cheques to people for covid release relief that’s directly contrary to what the populist wing wanted which was the opposite.

      mailman in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 11:56 am

      I think they foresaw a future where Democrats would try to take power for ever. Hence the checks and balances they incorporated in to the constitution.

        MarkSmith in reply to mailman. | May 12, 2021 at 12:33 pm

        They have been trying to take power since Jefferson. It works for awhile, but the cycle comes back around.

        mark311 in reply to mailman. | May 12, 2021 at 1:19 pm

        They foresaw a future where a populist would warp the legal system in there favour. I’m not sure that exactly applies to who you think it applies too

          UserP in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 1:34 pm

          They foresaw a future where we wouldn’t be bothered by the British. We finally manage to break free and gain our independence and the tossers return on the internet.

          mark311 in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 1:47 pm


          I’m American fuckwit.

          If you have nothing of value to add maybe you shouldn’t type

          Wait, you’re an American who lives in the UK, has nothing to do with America, and is just kind of sadly looking in on our poilitical machinations? But not a Brit, either, though you claim to live there and to drive, in your own personal car, 50K miles a YEAR? Um, yeah, we buy that because we are dumber than two sacks of rocks. And stuff.

          Ben Kent in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 1:55 pm

          mark311 – you wrote “favor” in the British style (with a “u”).

          That’s probably why UserP thought you were British.

          It might also be related to Mark311 repeatedly telling us he’s just a benevolent viewer from the UK. Weird, right?

          Mim Moco in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 2:37 pm

          UserP and Ben Kent have hit close to the mark… mark311 wants the colonies back… favour… tossers… f#%kwit. IT (not gonna guess the pronoun) is triggered by the Queen’s English. Live free or die

          henrybowman in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 7:19 pm

          Distinctly remember mark311 posted earlier that he was located in the UK.

          He did. Multiple times. He wants to wash his hands of this confusing America he pretends not to get, and he wants to be the outsider looking in, offering condescending advice to us pikers in the U.S. He has repeatedly stated that he’s in the UK and can’t “get” our system of government, but then he also pretends he’s an American. He’s a lying troll, Henry. And has been since the start.

          I’ve said it all along, the guy is full of crap and a troll. Not even a very good one at that.

          mark311 in reply to mark311. | May 14, 2021 at 4:17 am

          @Min Moco,

          UserP used the word tosser not me

          @Fuzzy slippers

          You are just a sore loser, that’s reflective in your total lack of argument. You consistently attack me on the basis that I have a different view (which I frequently support and do my best to argue). You don’t like being told that fundamentally you cant justify some of the views I’ve challenged.

          Not sure why you are obsessed with this 50K thing, very weird.

          Not looking in, as I vote. Overseas citizens can vote. Funny that. And that’s your unsubstantiated view that i ‘have nothing to do with the States. Oddly enough i have relatively extensive family in the States.

          As usual you make many assumptions, have no ability to ask questions, misinterpret others, and to be honest don’t seem to have much intellectual integrity at all.

          @Ben Kent – I’m pretty sure (not 100%) that I’ve told UserP that I live in the UK but am American. But yes I’ve picked up a lot of British linguistic tics. That said its pretty clear that UserP and I have an acrimonious history on here. Hence having a short temper with UserP.

          “sore loser”? What on earth do you mean, @mark311? Because from where I sit, you are on the losing side of every debate here. You might puff up and imagine in your deluded way that you “won” and someone else “lost,” but the funny thing about discussing issues is that there are multiple sides on most issues of import.

          We think we are right on masks, the overwrought and tyrannical response to the WuFlu, about the irregularities with the 2020 presidential election, about global warming or climate change or whatever the latest catch-all term is, and we are, in fact, right about pretty much everything (I can’t recall you ever making a point that made me pause and rethink my position, though other LI trolls–and plenty of leftie thinkers–have frequently managed that not difficult feat). That we don’t “justify” our beliefs and opinions in the way you demand is not us “losing.” It’s you being intellectually inferior and sophomoric.

          I’m not “obsessed” with your lie about driving 50,000 miles per year in your personal vehicle, but I do find it astonishing that you would make such a clearly ludicrous claim. Now, if you said, I’m a long-haul trucker in the United States and I rack up 75-100k miles a year in my rig, I’d not bat an eyelid . . . because that is realistic. You driving 50k miles a year in the UK in your personal car is absolute nonsense. And you know it. You have extensive family in the U.S.? So what? Do you ship your vehicle over here every year and drive to visit each and every one multiple times across the entire expanse of the country to get those 50k miles?

          Anyway, as always, you are endlessly amusing. Since you are so convinced you “beat” me, let’s see the proof. Where have I “lost” in any exchange with you, in your view? Show me that, and I’ll be happy to show you the many many ways you are wrong.

      Ben Kent in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 12:23 pm

      Mark – in 1776 the concept of personal liberty was radical. Government elected by the people was unheard of. “We the People” was, and still is, a populist concept. Checks and balances was done – to prevent any one group from corrupting a government that was designed to serve the people.

      Ben Kent in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 12:45 pm

      Establishment vs Populist is a governing philosophy.

      There is not a perfect line drawn to separate the two – but the difference is becoming more clear every year.

      Generally the 2 Parties each agree on many of the Party’s core legislative policies. So you will often see Estab an Popul. of the same party vote the same way on legislation.

      The difference is in their view as to their role in government. Do they serve the people or rule them ? It’s not quite that simple – but that’s a good question to start with.

      alaskabob in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 12:46 pm

      Sorry Mark 7-11… the newly minted theory that the US was founded to perpetuate slavery and rich male hegemony won’t fly. Point out in the Constitution that it was written ONLY for the rich white? Voting was extended way beyond that of England. Yes, based on ownership of land…which was easy for anyone to get…. far far easier than England. The Common Man’s unalienable rights didn’t have a wealth threshold. By the way… even in Communism… there is no equity… ability and need determine who gets what… that’s not equity.

        mark311 in reply to alaskabob. | May 12, 2021 at 1:23 pm

        That’s not what I claimed, I claimed that the founders weren’t populist.

        I’m not entirely clear what your claim on communism is? Nor am I clear what that has to do with anything?

          Congrats on the first intelligent comment you’ve ever made here:

          “mark311 in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 1:47 pm – I’m American fuckwit.”

          OFGS, he’s a lying liar who lies. All the time.

          henrybowman in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 7:20 pm

          Phrasing sounds distinctly Russian, don’t you agree?

          Brave Sir Robbin in reply to mark311. | May 13, 2021 at 9:23 am

          Some were – some were not. Populism has always been a strain in American politics and exists currently in both political parties to some degree. Due to certain social, economic and cultural factors, populist sentiment is rising in the US – in both political parties. Populism is not necessarily free market or libertarian in nature, or Marxist or totalitarian. It is simply a juxtaposition of non-elites against societal elites who may be of any political persuasion but basically seek to expand and maintain political, social, economic, and cultural control. There has always been a very healthy distrust of elitism in the United States. This included a large swath of the founding fathers who themselves were mostly part of the elite class.

      What are you still babblimg about?

      4fun in reply to mark311. | May 12, 2021 at 10:16 pm

      . Even looking at who the founding fathers were paints a very different picture, very rich powerful individuals.
      You are a clownish and stupid jerk.

      The Price of Freedom

      But the price of freedom can be dear, as it was to many of those who dared sign their names to the document declaring this a free land. Below is an accounting of what their signatures cost some of our founding fathers.

      Francis Lewis, New York: His wife was captured by the British in 1776 and later died as a result of her captivity. Lewis himself lived out his years in relative poverty, having sacrificed his independent fortune to the cause of patriotism during the War of Independence.

      Phillip Livingston, New York: He and his family had to flee their home to escape the British army and never returned.

      Lewis Morris, New York: His family fled the approaching British army, which plundered his estate, destroyed hundreds of acres of crops, and took his livestock.

      John Hart, New Jersey: Hessians destroyed Hart’s farm, livestock, and other property. The hardships brought on by the destruction caused Hart’s wife to become sick, and she died as her husband was trying to reach her. Hart was forced to flee into the woods and slept in caves when the British troops invaded New Jersey. His children were forced into hiding and sought refuge with family and friends.

      Richard Stockton, New Jersey: He was dragged from his bed by a group of royalists and imprisoned in New York, where he was denied basic necessities. He was finally released, but he had endured so much suffering that he never fully recovered. His fortune was nearly wiped out, his lands ruined, his papers and library were burned, and his livestock seized. For a while, he was forced to depend on the good will of his friends for survival.

      George Clymer, Pennsylvania: His family eluded British soldiers who ransacked their house. Clymer was in Philadelphia during this time. When British troops arrived there, they found where he lived and started to tear the building down and only stopped when told the house didn’t belong to Clymer.

      William Ellery, Rhode Island: His house was burned down and the rest of his property was destroyed while the British army occupied Newport.

      Edward Rutledge, Arthur Middleton, and Thomas Heyward, South Carolina: All three were imprisoned at St. Augustine, Fla., for almost a year.

      Thomas Nelson Jr., Virginia: He lost his fortune aiding the war effort and died a poor man.

      John Morton, Pennsylvania: On his deathbed, he asked those in attendance to tell his enemies—those who didn’t forgive him for voting in favor of independence—that one day it would be acknowledged that casting his vote was the most important act of his life.

      Abraham Clark, New Jersey: Two of Clark’s sons were officers in the army. They were captured by the British and confined to the prison ship Jersey, where thousands of American captives died. One was held in solitary confinement and given no food. Reportedly, Clark still refused to change his position and support the crown when the British offered to spare his sons’ lives if he did so. His headstone reads:

      Firm and decided as a patriot,
      zealous and faithful as a friend to the public,
      he loved his country, and adhered to her cause
      in the darkest hours of her struggles
      against oppression.

        4fun, you wrote of mark311, “You are a clownish and stupid jerk.”


        mark311 in reply to 4fun. | May 14, 2021 at 4:22 am


        Any of those individuals actually considered to be a founding father, no.

          Mim Moco in reply to mark311. | May 14, 2021 at 1:22 pm

          ALL of the signers are considered founding fathers and are memorialized in the Declaration of Independence Memorial on the Washington, DC Mall near the WWII Monument.

          In 1776, it was a unanimous decision because as Benjamin Franklin said, “We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately.”

          ALL of the signers were Founding Fathers; they ALL put their lives, their fortunes, and their sacred honor on the line to break away from British tyranny and to establish our Constitutional republic.

          How can you not know that?

          henrybowman in reply to mark311. | May 17, 2021 at 11:27 am

          Soros troll script book didn’t cover that.
          And let’s not forget — this person claims he votes.

      Barry in reply to mark311. | May 13, 2021 at 1:31 am

      You’re too stupid to know what a founding father is.

Trump’s “Big Ugly” is on the move. Her ouster neuter’s the RINO campaign to defend as many House RINOs as possible while undercutting the MAGA candidates. I expect this will cement the decisions to retire for many of the RINOs. Trump is taking over the GOP while the Decepticons are now threatening to create a “3rd” party.

It’s on!

A bitter (rhymes with rich).

I will send $100 t o whoever seems most likely to beat her in the 2022 primary.

SeiteiSouther | May 12, 2021 at 11:30 am

And, of course, LA Senator Bill Cassidy touted support for Cheney. Dumbass.

At least Scalise has his head screwed on right.

We can only
hope that the people of Wyoming toe every thing in THEIR power to ensure that Cheney never again get near any seat of power in the Rep. party, and, further, that she is unelected in the next election.

Get rid of Herrera Buetler too!

I bet Liz’ “power” ain’t what it used to be.

I did an internet search using “Cheney attacks Biden.” The only time I could find something critical was when Biden discussed removing troops from Afghanistan after 20 years. The Cheney Family loves flag-draped caskets at Dover AFB.

MoeHowardwasright | May 12, 2021 at 4:07 pm

Liz…it’s as simple as this, “GFY”! Your views are globalist and decidedly anti-American. We don’t want you. And in case you don’t understand who “we” are, let me explain it to you. “We” happens to be the ones who donate and vote. You will be out on your ass in 2022. Then you’ll be free to comment on msnbc or cnn. Your choice.

Too little, too late.

Remember, when the RINOs had their little secret vote just 4 months ago, TWO THIRDS of them voted to keep her, and McCarthy went all out to keep her in place.

The ONLY reason they’re getting rid of her now is that she’s attacking other RINOs.

Until we get rid of trash like McCarthy and McConnell, nothing will change.

Wyoming voters need to vote her out. I’m looking forward to that. I hope she can’t sneak back in like Murkowski did in Alaska.

healthguyfsu | May 12, 2021 at 9:09 pm

Looking forward to the day when Liz has no power except to go on CNN and be one of their useful idiot voices.

    Apparently, this is her goal. Liz Cheney, token anti-Republican pseudo-Republican. She’s disgusting, but she’s getting her payday on the woke Democrat activist media outlets who are championing her as some sort of hero. Newsflash, GOP, if the activist, propagandist media is singing your praises, you are less than nothing to the people who actually vote for GOP office from dog-catcher on up. Pander to the #EnemyOfThePeople . . . and be gone. Amid cheers and celebration.

Whelp. Mark311 comes off as an ignorant troll who has no real background in American History and does not understand our system. He should stick to the UK. He’s silly enough for it.

Liz was voted in; she was voted out.
Tear a page of the calendar because it’s a new day.

Did someone need to actually tell Liz “You are a REPUBLICAN — don’t bad-mouth REPUBLICANS — there are plenty of imbeciles to do that already.” …

I guess have haven’t paid close-enough attention. Can someone tell me, please, what parts of the Constitution Donald Trump violated?