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Presidential Swing State Countdown

Presidential Swing State Countdown

Trump needs a sweep of AZ, GA, NC, and PA.

Donald Trump needs a sweep of AZ, GA, NC, and PA. NV is also outstanding, and MI and WI have been called for Biden but may be contested. Expect ‘final’ results in GA and NV today, possibly also AZ. We’ll follow the results today (and beyond) here.

GA is also important as to whether David Perdue gets 50% of the vote, avoiding a January runoff. If he doesn’t there will be two January runoffs, which if Democrats won both, would give them control of the Senate at 50-50 plus the VP tie breaker.

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(Updated by various authors)

Arizona Update

Nevada Voter Fraud Letter to AG Barr

Michigan Lawsuit

Trump Statement

Nevada Count

NV Lawsuit

GA Court Order

PA Court Order

Uncounted PA Ballots

U.S. Supreme Court

Trump campaign has filed in U.S. Supreme Court to intervene in the lawsuit previously filed challenging the extension of time for mail-in ballots imposed by Democrat bureaucrats and approved by the PA Supreme Court. You can read the Petition here. The PA response is due by 5 p.m. today.

The Wall Street Journal has a round up of various litigation filed challenging the vote counting.

Trump campaign files suit in Nevada



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Kicking out Poll Watchers is a Public Admission you are Cheating.

Any Biden presidency will be illegitimate. Period.

    Connivin Caniff in reply to MattMusson. | November 5, 2020 at 10:20 am

    True, but the major revelation is that they don’t care if you know they were cheating. They revel in it.

      Because they know there is no chance of consequence

        MattMusson in reply to MarkS. | November 5, 2020 at 12:08 pm

        No. There is BIG consequence.

        Not only is a Biden Presidency de-legitimized, they may have undermined the confidence of 50% of the populace in National Elections.

        4 years from now, we will expect crooked elections from day one.

          CorkyAgain in reply to MattMusson. | November 5, 2020 at 2:14 pm

          We expected crooked elections this time, and many times before. It hasn’t stopped them.

          notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to MattMusson. | November 5, 2020 at 8:46 pm

          Great news! The Democrat Party Civil War has already started!

          From Ace of Spades:

          Democrats House Members Throw Blame at The Squad, Nancy Pelosi, L’il Chuckie Schumer and BLM in Angry Conference Call

          Erica Werner @ericawerner
          Spanberger on the Dem caucus call: We lost races we shouldn’t have lost.
          Defund police almost cost me my race bc of an attack ad.
          Don’t say socialism ever again.
          Need to get back to basics.
          (Is yelling.)

          If we run this race again we will get fucking torn apart again in 2022, Spanberger says

          Pelosi comes back on and says she disagrees, they won the House and presidency

          We have a mandate! Pelosi says before getting off the call

          Also earlier in the call Debbie Mucarsel-Powell who lost her race was crying , and mentioned how people can’t pronounce her name, and said stop being negative on Twitter

          Jeffries comes back on to tell people to stop leaking and that reporters aren’t your friends! Crying face

          Jayapal is telling Jeffries to find the leakers! Zipper-mouth face

          It just keeps going as Pascrell now calling out Schumer.
          Pelosi�s done an amazing job … but where�s Schumer in all of this? Says Pelosi has one hand tied behind her back

          Rashida Tlaib saying before we make painful statements we need to wait and see how the numbers come down, feels like I’m being asked to be quiet and we need to appeal to certain people, and that’s not right

          By “certain people,” she means she resents having to appeal to white people, especially Jews.

          That’s what she always means.

          She came here to attack Jews, not to appeal to them.

          Tlaib: They called Obama worse, they called him a Muslim, a socialist, you can blame these words but if it wasn’t on BLM would’ve been something else
          It’s an insult to call Obama a Muslim or a Socialist, said the Muslim Socialist.

          notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to MattMusson. | November 5, 2020 at 8:56 pm

          Rudy Giuliani Rallies the Troops, Declares That Democrats Have Engineered a Fraudulent Election

          notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to MattMusson. | November 5, 2020 at 9:17 pm

          Why Does Biden Have So Many More Votes Than Democrat Senators In Swing States?

          Pass it on.

          notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to MattMusson. | November 5, 2020 at 9:34 pm

          From another LI thread:

          Demonized | November 5, 2020 at 7:54 pm

          What I know about Americans, across ethnic and racial lines.


          notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to MattMusson. | November 5, 2020 at 11:42 pm

          Share WITH everyone.

          Raheem Kassam @RaheemKassam

          Republicans aren’t losing in down ticket races because the industrial scale ballot fraudsters were only marking the President box.

          To save time.

          It means more fraud per minute if you ignore the rest.

        There IS a consequence. With everyone knowing they cheated, especially the Dems themselves, they now face a traditional bloodbath off-year election in 2022 with a more-popular-then-ever Trump leading the campaigning. Trump could win bigly in 2024 large and in charge and with most of the RINOs either banished or reformed.

        The GOP WILL retake the House in 2022 and with Trump refusing to disappear, a fearful one-party establishment won’t have the luxury of pretending he isn’t there. The Dems will be frozen in place afraid to act on their “Manifesto”.

        As an aside, I never ever EVER want to hear the name Chris Christi again!

        beagleEar in reply to MarkS. | November 5, 2020 at 4:48 pm

        If we and the RNC allow it, there’s no consequence.

          notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to beagleEar. | November 5, 2020 at 8:48 pm

          Darren J. Beattie ?
          Nov 5, 2020
          From a current White House official (more senior than the joke miles taylor)

          “Rick Scott and Marsha Blackburn are talking about Taiwan and Hong Kong. Lyin Ted and Little rand hasn’t tweeted anything. Lil’ Marco is counter signaling. McConnell has a blackout on this.”
          Darren J. Beattie ?
          Obvious McConnell wants Trump to lose for many reasons, including having more power under Biden presidency. he has everything he wants: senate, SC justices, judges, etc. two years from now he’s probably thinking he would gain seats in midterms during Biden presidency”
          1:10 PM · Nov 5, 2020

    Valerie in reply to MattMusson. | November 5, 2020 at 4:50 pm

    Back when I was a Democrat, I used to live in Maryland, and although I did not like the the State legislature much, I did like the general attitude toward voting.

    I walked into the polling place with my driver’s license and a utility bill, and signed the register under the watchful eye of observers of both parties, who were genial toward one and all.

    I took the long ballot and went to my little booth, where I used a big, wide, black marker to complete an arrow pointing to either a name or yes, or no. I put the ballot in its sleeve, and walked it over to a scanner, where an observer made sure it was right-side up but was unable to see the votes, and let the machine pull it in. It would flash a number. I was told this meant the vote was accepted and tabulated.

    In an off year, the results would be announced within 30 minutes.

    Since then, I have found that people who don’t cheat are happy to have observers, and will be glad to explain all kinds of things to perfect strangers.

    sheldonkatz in reply to MattMusson. | November 5, 2020 at 7:45 pm

    Matt, Biden will not be my president. But “resist” will be pronounced “ray-cist”

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to MattMusson. | November 5, 2020 at 10:06 pm

    Officials OUTRAGED After Trump Campaign Asks for Names of People Transporting Ballots and Locations of Where Ballots Are Stored and Counted

    Crooked politicians are OUTRAGED that the Trump Campaign is not letting them get away with their Dirty Tricks.

    Dirty liberals are not used to getting pushback on their criminal intentions.

    But President Trump is not your average Republican.
    President Trump confronts the corruption and fights back!

    “Not my president.”

    Remember that tune? Let’s adopt it.

You know a tie is on the books, and that would be its own disaster. If Trump loses Georgia, but wins Arizona and Nevada it is tied.

“”Donald Trump needs a sweep of AZ, GA, NC, and PA.””

No, what Trump needs is to start arresting criminal fraudsters wholesale and throwing their asses in jail. It’s clear that the fraud was coast-to-coast and needs to be treated like the interstate conspiracy that it was. If we let the left steal this election, there’ll never be a chance to throw them out again without guns.

I can’t imagine Biden wins Michigan. The cheating is so massive there, as it was in 2016. In reality it clearly went for Trump and everyone knows it.

I am less sure of Arizona, it really is becoming a blue state, and McSally lost there again. But apparently there’s massive cheating there too, look up “sharpiegate” where even the sheriff was complicit.

I don’t think Biden (or Harris) makes the Oval Office. Too obviously illegitimate.

    Connivin Caniff in reply to artichoke. | November 5, 2020 at 10:25 am

    If it happened in 2016, why didn’t the Trump Justice Department do something about it? The Republicans are great talkers. Let’s see how well the Senate holds the fort.

    txvet2 in reply to artichoke. | November 5, 2020 at 10:39 am

    I think McSally’s problems were a little deeper than just being GOP. It’s possible there were more than a few hard feelings left over from her earlier election.

    Milhouse in reply to artichoke. | November 5, 2020 at 12:22 pm

    “Sharpiegate” is BS. They’re supposed to use sharpies, because the ink dries faster, and the machines have no problem reading the ballots even if the ink bleeds through. And any ballot that for some reason can’t be read is put in the emergency slot and during counting it’s reproduced and the copy is scanned.

      beagleEar in reply to Milhouse. | November 5, 2020 at 4:53 pm

      At my poll, I was given an ink pen the served as a screen stylus for signing one’s signature and an ink pen (when clicked. Into place) for use on the ballot. There was a supply of these, with the “Board of Elections” printed on them. I suppose a sharpie should work, but optical scanners can be calibrated to an extent, and that style ink is not as opaque (light-proof) is black pen ink.
      Sum: Probably noting, but needs to be looked into. Bad faith has been seen in this election already.

        Milhouse in reply to beagleEar. | November 5, 2020 at 10:06 pm

        Yes, that’s how NY did it. Normally you use a stylus to sign in, and there are pens on strings at the privacy booths that you use to vote. But this year, because people are afraid of teh covids, they got these stylus-pens in, and we were giving them out to each voter and telling them to keep it, take it to the privacy booth to vote with, and then take it home.

        At least, that was the plan, but they forgot to give us an adequate supply of pens, so even though (as I reported earlier) it was dead, we ran out in mid-morning and the scanner staff started collecting them from voters, sanitizing them with disinfectant wipes, and bringing them back to the check-in tables to be reused. That lasted until about 2:00 when we got a whole box of pens. Since we only served about 500 voters all day, we had many left over.

          gospace in reply to Milhouse. | November 5, 2020 at 10:58 pm

          Not all of NY. Here in ruralville the markers were in the little privacy areas; you used it after the last person, and left it for the next person.

      Valerie in reply to Milhouse. | November 5, 2020 at 4:56 pm

      According to the DHS website, it depends on the type of paper used by the State, so might be a problem in one State, and not another.

        Milhouse in reply to Valerie. | November 5, 2020 at 8:58 pm

        The subject is Arizona, where the ballots were designed specifically so that they can be scanned even if the ink bleeds through. So the entire issue is bogus.

The Friendly Grizzly | November 5, 2020 at 9:19 am

In my lifetime, I have seen nasties like Motor Voter, provisonal ballots, by-mail voting, by-mail registration, and ballot harvesting take hold.

Few want to say, or admit it, but, we reside in a banana republic when it comes to vote counting. We are no better than tinhorn central and south American countries.

Do I have a solution? Short of judges and most of the nation’s politicians placed in front of firing squads, I don’t.

    Some Third World countries conduct more reliable elections than we do. Think fingers dipped in ink to prevent multiple votes and all in-person voting.

      The Friendly Grizzly in reply to zennyfan. | November 5, 2020 at 10:19 am

      It’s time for an end to all but voting in person. I have even re-thought absentee ballots. I have used them in the past, like when away from home in the Navy. But, they are now so abused as to be something to be abolished.

    Some Third World countries conduct more reliable elections than we do. Think fingers dipped in ink to prevent multiple votes and all in-person voting on one day.

    There are things that can be done.

    1. Voter ID. This is not likely to stop much fraud, since in-person voting by someone other than the voter is uncommon, but it would stop some fraud and it costs very little, so why not?

    2. Inked fingers. This is more reliable than requiring ID. It also won’t stop much fraud, but again it will stop some, and costs very little, so it should be done.

    3. Tighten up registration. This is a huge one. There aren’t a lot of people who show up in person to vote as someone else; but there are a lot of people (impossible to know how many) who register to vote, and then show up and vote as themselves, once, showing ID and dipping their finger if required, but who are not eligible to be registered. That’s much easier to do, because nobody ever checks. It’s astonishing that there is literally no bar to fraudulent registration. Even states that try to prevent it fail, because they must accept federal registration forms, which require no proof of eligibility.

    So first of all that must be changed. On registering to vote you should have to submit proof that you are an eligible voter. If you haven’t got proof and can’t get it, I’m sorry, but tough luck. Why should anyone believe you? However, there should be government assistance with finding the proof, if it exists. The government should provide someone who will chase down your birth certificate, or your naturalization certificate, or whatever it is you need. And non-standard evidence of eligibility should be accepted if it’s reliable, e.g. for people who were born at home and never had a birth certificate.

    You can still register by mail or online, just show the proof of eligibility the first time you vote; but you’ll have to do that in person.

    4. The second part of that is to make all existing voters re-register, to catch all the ineligible voters who are now on the rolls. Yes, this is an inconvenience for many. Guess what, voting is a privilege, not a right, and you can put up with some inconvenience for the sake of a system with integrity.

    5. Tighten up absentee voting. At Israeli hospitals they take a ballot box around the wards, so patients can vote in person. Sure it costs money, but it’s worth it. Let’s do that here. Send an election judge plus an observer from each party that wants to send one, as a mobile polling place. With modern technology they can print a ballot on demand for whichever district the patient is registered in, let them fill it out and scan it on the spot, in front of the witnesses. Do the same for nursing homes, and even do home visits for people who are homebound. That cuts down on the need for postal voting.

    Something similar can even be done in the military; have a duly authorized voting station at each base, and on each vessel. The only servicemen who have to vote absentee are those out in the field, or on submarines, etc. We can make an exception for them.

    We can even do that for people who are away from home; show up at any polling place anywhere in the USA or at any US consulate or embassy, show ID and have them look up your voter registration, have them print a ballot for your district, and then have them scan it.

      Ghost Rider in reply to Milhouse. | November 5, 2020 at 1:41 pm

      There are many things that can be done to ensure a fraud free election from technology solutions like the block chain that claim to be guarantee one vote per legitimate registered voter to more manual methods. But there is a reason politicians have no interest in solutions. There have no desire (esp. Dems) to make sure elections are 100% honest. That would destroy their advantage.

    Connivin Caniff in reply to The Friendly Grizzly. | November 5, 2020 at 3:51 pm

    I just don’t know why Trump stopped colluding with the Russians at a time when we really need them.

the fix is in and we are screwed.

    fscarn in reply to dmacleo. | November 5, 2020 at 9:46 am

    Not necessarily. Consider this possibility. Trump ain’t going away. He starts his new media organization, a pro-America organization. He’s given indications to this idea over the years. It will be immediately successful. Those who voted for Trump are so anxious to support something that’ll punch back at the leftist media which really are an enemy of the people. And when the 2023 election season begins, Trump’ll be tanned, rested, and ready.

    Further boosting 2024 will be the 2022 elections. Biden will be a disaster; so too Heels Up. McConnell can see to that on confirmations and not considering stupid bills sent over from the House.

    Even if Breyer decides to hang it up, USSC votes won’t be 4-4.

      budmania in reply to fscarn. | November 5, 2020 at 9:58 am

      Great thoughts! I hope you’re right, but I think it’s a longshot.

      txvet2 in reply to fscarn. | November 5, 2020 at 10:08 am

      In four years, Trump’s likely to still be wearing an orange jumpsuit. You people still don’t seem to be able to grasp how much they hate him and intend to destroy him.

    guyjones in reply to dmacleo. | November 5, 2020 at 10:03 am

    Keep some optimism — POTUS is going to win; just wait and see.

    Connivin Caniff in reply to dmacleo. | November 5, 2020 at 10:18 am

    Don’t be so negative. Won’t it be fun watching Biden’s State of the Union message?

Twenty years ago it was hanging chads. This year it’s unsigned, undated, unpostmarked. I keep telling myself it ain’t over until it’s over but I have a bad feeling about this.

    alaskabob in reply to DSHornet. | November 5, 2020 at 9:48 am

    Voter fraud has always been THE insurance policy of the Democrat Party. Lies and intimidation can only do so much. Now it has been elevated to a nobler cause….getting rid of Trump. “Free and fair” elections don’t help the cause.

I really hate to say it, but I see no way R’s keep the Senate. At best, it will be 50-50 with commiela as the tiebreaker. God help us!

The call to count every vote isn’t controversial. Nor is the call to review every ballot to ensure compliance with applicable law.

Votes are derived from ballots. Lots of ballots tossed out every election. With increased non in person voting, there are more hurdles for that ballot to be reviewed and approved as being in compliance with rules, regulation and law. Therefore a much larger percentage of ballots being ultimately rejected as non in compliance should be expected.

Think about it like a football game. The coaches draw up and call the play, the QB throws the ball, the receiver ran his route to the back of end zone and has the ball in his hands. Touchdown! No, the receiver stepped out of bounds while coming down with the ball. Yes he ‘caught’ the ball in a physical sense and he and his team INTENDED for him to do so. Too bad no score, no catch. The ruling is an incomplete pass because he didn’t make a legal reception.

The MSM need to start preparing folks for many ballots to be rejected once scrutiny is applied.

Additionally folks may want to be prepared for the process to move to the HoR. We may know that each State delegation votes collectively not individually but how about the average person?

Too many shenanigans. Most are rather transparent. The nation in general and the d/progressive/anarchists in particular, need to get mentally prepared for an adverse outcome at worst and a drawn out knife fight that WILL expose the shenanigans by the various d machine and the perpetrators facing investigation and prison time at best.

    The problem is not ballots being rejected because of technical flaws. The problem is ballots being created for nonexistent people or by unknown third parties for existing voters.

    Look, the Democrat party has been fighting for, not against, vote fraud for decades. The anti-voter ID movement, motor voter laws, ballot harvesting, etc are all designed to facilitate vote fraud. The entire Democrat election strategy is now based upon the assumption that the Dems will be allowed to commit wide spread vote fraud. It is so grotesque that Dem candidates do not even bother to effectively campaign, in many Dem strongholds.

    The election of Donald Trump continues to pay huge dividends for the people of this country. His election, in 2016, caused the Establishment to reveal the depths of the political swamp in DC. Most people had no idea of the extent of the kleptocracy which existed in Washington, and in state and local politics. Even Trump was blindsided by it. Now, in 2020, this election has revealed that the legitimacy of US elections is largely a mirage. If the Dems are involved, votes mean literally nothing. More people vote in given Dem districts than are registered to vote there. People born in 1850 cast ballots. Huge numbers of ballots appear, seeming from thin air in the middle of the night. People vote multiple times n a single election. And, even the political party which is harmed the most, by all of these practices, the Republicans, are reluctant to put adequate safeguards in place to prevent them from occurring.

    While the Democrats are concerned about protecting such legal chimeras as Roe v Wade, they are much more concerned about courts failing to strike down common sense vote protection laws, such as voter ID.

    Now, in your football analogy, if the receiver is pushed out of bounds by the opposing player, or is tripped while running up the field or is tackled prior to receiving the ball, and therefor not catching it, there is a penalty or the catch is allowed to stand. That is what is happening here. The rules of the game, elections, are being violated so that one side has a better chance of winning. If it is allowed to occur, it will only get worse.

      CommoChief in reply to Mac45. | November 5, 2020 at 11:12 am


      A meaningful review of the ballots will reveal the shenanigans.

      Voter turnout way above historic average? Hmm lets see the ballots.

      Lets look at those voter registration lists. Did the maintain the list as required under the motor voter act? Hmmm guess we have to litigate the registration list. By the way since the state and local elections officials were clearly ignoring their affirmative duties they must be recused from any decision making in the process as.they have become a non neutral party.

      Nevada – lots of job losses during Rona in service industry and construction. Lets compare registration with postal records for change of address to out of state and see if those ballots are legit.

      Wisconsin – approaching 90% turn out? Seems fishy.

      Michigan, Pennsylvania dramatic numbers of ballots late reporting all cutting to one candidate? No lets review all of that.

      If PDJT chooses to fight this to the knife then all this scrap comes out in public view. Yes we all suspect that small scale fraud goes on in some states, but this is too large a theft.

      The bigger issue is accountability for generating ballots. Use a side voter registration list v Postal address info, social Security data for death and address, IRS data for address, public benefits application data for address. Etc.

      Can be done. If necessary get it to the point that the number of contested electoral votes denies 270 and push it to the HoR.

      At worst we are able to visibly demonstrate that type of vote shenanigans in some blue areas. Then better position to demand reform.

      IMO fight don’t surrender.

        You are assuming that there will even be any meaningful review of the votes.

        How do you determine that a mail-in vote was not sent in by a bono fide voter, if the ballot has been removed from the endorsement envelope? Who loses that ballot’s vote? How do you determine that? What do you do with ballots which have few or no down ballot votes? Are all voters required to vote in all contests on the ballot? Which votes do you rescind simply because there are more votes in a precinct than registered voters? Which candidate gets penalized? See, this whole scam relies upon secret ballots being counted. Once that happens, it becomes impossible to do anything meaningful about it. Even in-person voting becomes problematic, without voter ID laws. Again, once the ballot is entered, how do you determine how the ineligible voter actually voted?

        Vote fraud is virtually impossible to defend against after the fact, because of the secret ballot. It has to be stopped before it actually occurs.

          CommoChief in reply to Mac45. | November 5, 2020 at 12:11 pm


          Well, yes I am assuming that the current and future lawsuits force a meaningful review.

          You are assuming that there won’t be a meaningful review.

          IMO, A meaningful review will expose the scale of:
          1. Dead voters
          2. Out of state voters
          3. Registered voters who didn’t vote, but someone else executed a ballot in their name
          4. Ballots being cured when either no authority exists under law to cure or the cure was not conducted with the presence of observers
          5. Voters being ‘assisted’ when no authority exists to allow assistance

          In some States voters can get help from certain listed people. If someone else not authorized helps the ballot is spoiled. In some States no one can provide help, if that election official decided to help granny that official has invalidated the ballot and IMO made their position as a voting official untenable. All acts and decisions of that official should be invalidated.

          Assuming that the laws and constitution are followed lots of ballots will be tossed. If not then our Republic is lost. I would hope that SCOTUS, regardless of their hope to stay out of the process, understand that if they ignore the constitution that other people may feel that they can now choose to ignore the constitution.

          Will it be a series of 9-0 decisions? No. I will happily take 5-4.

          We can afford the d beta types rioting. The Nation can not survive the r alpha types believing that our constitution has become dead letter.

          Hope for the best, lawyer up, join the legal knife fight and work to prevent a tragic outcome for the Nation.

          I choose to be optimistic. Others can choose to be pessimistic. For the moment, it’s still a free Nation.

          Milhouse in reply to Mac45. | November 5, 2020 at 12:52 pm

          If I may intervene here, I think you’re talking at cross-purposes. I think Mac is talking about repairing the fraud in this election, which is pretty much impossible by now, while CommoChief is talking about repairing the process to prevent fraud in future elections.

          CommoChief in reply to Mac45. | November 5, 2020 at 1:42 pm


          Happy to have you. However, I am most definitely speaking to the current situation. My take is that the d invited chaos by a combination of continuing the corrupt machine practices, dialing those practices up by orders of magnitude, loosening registration requirements, voter ID, witness requirements, prohibitions on assisting voters, ballot cure provisions, oversight provisions, cut off of voting time and date requirements.

          Now in some States, the Legislature made the changes ok let’s accept them but also enforce the changes.

          In other States changes were not made by the Legislature but instead by election boards or Secretary of State unilaterally or some other non legislative actor. None of these changes are legitimate.

          The State Legislature of each State is authorized under our Constitution to develop the voting procedure. Not anyone else.

          This apple cart was deliberately placed in the position of being upturned. If the States where non legislative actors made changes are forced to go back and invalidate the ballots cast in an unlawful and unconstitutional manner that is on them. They choose this course deliberately to create the situation in which entire States could potentially have every ballot invalidated.

          Yes folks will be upset. Yes folks will ‘take to the street’. Not my problem. I and many other far more important and far more prominent voices have warned of this. These folks who choose to violate the law and the constitution were warned that this would be a likely possibility.

          Our repeated attempts to explain the potential for dire consequences was roundly rejected or ignored. So we are at the point of a court deciding whether to invalidate huge numbers of illegally cast ballots in order to uphold our constitutional system or ignore the constitution and allow illegal and unconstitutional ballots to be counted.

          Either way roughly half the Nation will be furious. My suggestion would be to ensure the constitution is followed thereby satisfying the currently law abiding citizens who still believe in our constitution.

          If this current pro-constitution group is made to believe that our constitution is now dead letter then ….that would be a tragic outcome for any future attempts to expect this group to adhere to constitutional norms.

          The genie couldn’t be put back in the bottle. Ignoring the constitution and rule by political force would become the norm, because SCOTUS would have irrevocably undermined the willingness of folks to accept their rulings as constitutionally relevant by their own willingness to ignore our constitution.

          Milhouse in reply to Mac45. | November 5, 2020 at 10:13 pm

          If the States where non legislative actors made changes are forced to go back and invalidate the ballots cast in an unlawful and unconstitutional manner that is on them.

          Once they’ve been counted they can’t be invalidated, because they can’t be identified. For postal votes all identifying information is on the outer envelope, and once that is verified the ballot is removed and mixed in with all the other ballots. Suppose you have a batch of 1000 votes and decide that 100 of them are invalid; how do you know which ones to take out?

          CommoChief in reply to Mac45. | November 6, 2020 at 9:17 am


          Your statement that illegally cast ballots can’t be rescinded when they have been mixed in with legitimate ballots doesn’t hold.

          They can be rescinded by invalidating the entire election. NJ did this in one primary this year.

          PA is a good example of where this might occur.

        Milhouse and Chief,

        The odds are that nothing will come of this. Why?

        First, because there will be NO meaningful examination of the fraud involved here. The MSM is wholly in the tank for the Dems. The only voice at Fox News commenting on this is Carlson. It will all be ignored by the traditional powers-that-be, including the Republican Party. It is so bad this year, that Democrat election officials are not even attempting to verify signatures on mail-in ballots, which is required by law.

        Second, if the Dems control the House, the Executive and many state legislatures, who is going to enact stricter controls or enforce the ones currently in existence? And, the courts are still infested with liberal activist judges and the SCOTUS is reluctant to rule according to the language of the law or Constitution.

        If the people roll over, yet again, nothing will change. It will only get worse in subsequent elections. In 2016, Trump was surprise. None of the political class thought he would win nomination. And, once that happened, no one thought that he would be elected. In 2020, his potential reelection was planned for. Do you think that similar plans will not be made for 2024?

        Look, politicians can not be relied upon to address these problems. Political parties can not be depended upon address these issues. The LE agencies will not get involved. The media is in the bag for the party committing the fraud. Who is left? The people. And what power do they have? Not the ballot box, anymore. Where do you think this goes? Totalitarianism or revolution. Take your pick. This is the last chance this nation has to dodge either of these outcomes.

          CommoChief in reply to Mac45. | November 5, 2020 at 3:27 pm


          A BS after the fact ‘blue ribbon commission’ is worthless.

          Litigation in Federal court. Depositions, discovery ECT.

          If still in litigation past the 8 December safe harbor date for selection of electors? Too flipping bad. That State may not be able into have electors seated. Too bad.

          We have a back up; HoR.

          Risking folks like me who still believe that we live in a constitutional Republic being told that the clear, unambiguous text and precedent on this point, only state legislature can make or change state election law/procedures, is now too hard to apply because Philly and Detroit etc may riot is not sound.

          To do so is to remove the last folks in the nation who still respect the constitutional system; conservatives. From now on might in terms of raw political power will rule and the previous constitutional norms be damned.

          Very dangerous to the health of our Nation.

          Mac45 in reply to Mac45. | November 5, 2020 at 6:17 pm


          You continue to miss thee point. What is to stop the Democrats to doing whatever they want to elect whomever they want in the next election? The courts? Doesn’t look promising. Philly election officials just told a federal judge to go pound sand. Mybe the DOJ? Nothing but crickets from that quarter. Maybe a legislature? Again, doesn’t look promising. So,, what White Knight do you expect to ride in and force Dems to conduct honest elections?

          Then there is the obvious problem caused by the fact that there is no way to determine which ballot is fraudulent, once it has been counted. Secret ballot, remember?

          It is fine to believe in the Tooth Fairy, Santa Clause and unicorns, but none of these things are going to save you. If these egregious fraud are allowed to stand, there will be NO safeguards left. The voters will not be able to force their representatives to do anything, because the politicians no longer need voters to get elected.

          CommoChief in reply to Mac45. | November 5, 2020 at 7:06 pm


          I don’t think I am missing the point. I firmly believe that a proper litigation would work to either:
          1. Revoke illegally cast ballots
          2. Revoke the entire state election where a state has no paper trail to determine which ballots were illegally counted
          3. Expose the corrupt practices

          Will that end up with Trump winning re-election? Who knows?

          Last sports analogy don’t throw at a batter because your batters will eventually get hit with chin music.

          The d machine in various locations have thrown at the batter. If the umpire (courts) don’t step in and stop it then the d better get ready to be thrown at.

          The d chose to go down the road in this election. They ignored clear constitutional text and precedent that specifically spells out that legislature of each state makes the laws/rules and procedures for conducting elections.

          If we now get to choose, by state preference, which parts of the constitution will be adhered to because courts refuse to act when called upon, then the result is not likely to be pleasant.

          Texas could say, well since PA did what they wanted and no court intervened to stop them, TX will do what we want on this issue over here and f the courts if they say a damn word.

          Or worse yet we end up with wackos taking it upon themselves to dispense what they see in their warped minds as justified payback: see OK City.

          I am not encouraging that, I am trying to make the point that we need to let the courts have the opportunity to fail before States or individuals go off half cocked. That sort of thing can spiral out of control very quickly.

      Barry in reply to Mac45. | November 5, 2020 at 6:07 pm

      “It is so grotesque that Dem candidates do not even bother to effectively campaign, in many Dem strongholds.”

      Like, for president…

Sounds doable for POTUS. But, as was predicted by many people, with the same absolute certainty as the Sun rising in the morning, the vile Dhimmi-crats are up to their usual, well-worn and brazenly lawless election-stealing shenanigans and mischief.

I am a frequent, actually pretty obsessive reader of this site and really enjoy the legal discussions that help inform my understanding of the many events that are happening in our country. I’ve never commented however, but I was curious as to what any legal eagles who frequent this site would say about the possibility of competing electors being sent to Washington D.C. if (and there is plenty of evidence) there is a genuine belief the election in a state was fraudulently decided for Biden. Could a competing slate of Trump electors be sent by the state legislatures? This is gaming it out pretty far but you never know.

It’s NOT shenanigans, it’s outright criminal thievery against the American people

This is insane

Why did we not have paid operatives inside the democrat operatives in MI and PA?

    txvet2 in reply to gonzotx. | November 5, 2020 at 11:02 am

    Why didn’t we have federal agents inside the entire DNC apparatus, knowing the illegal activities they’ve already been engaged in? Because the left controls them.

      txvet2 in reply to txvet2. | November 5, 2020 at 11:05 am

      You know, that seems to be a point that is NEVER talked about. You take a handful of nutcases in Michigan with notions of kidnapping the gov, and find out that half of them were FBI; but a criminal conspiracy involving tens of thousands if not millions of people is able to fly under the law enforcement radar. Not an accident.

    CorkyAgain in reply to gonzotx. | November 5, 2020 at 3:15 pm

    I would assume that the chicanery is being done by people who have no doubts about each other’s party loyalty, because they’ve demonstrated a long history of such loyalty.

    Newcomers, no matter how enthusiastic, aren’t allowed into the larger conspiracy until they’ve made their bones by committing petty offenses like stealing yard signs and dumping mail-in ballots in the trash.

    We’d need to have infiltrated sleepers into their ranks many years ago. Starting earlier this year is too late. Even starting after the 2016 election may have been too late.

Do not lose sight of what is important here. Election fraud.

The fraud which occurred in MI and WI, for which there is increasing evidence, is allowed to stand, then the rule of the game are forever changed and the people have lost. Election will no longer be decided by the people, in accordance to their wishes, but by a faceless oligarchy of people heavily invested in the Establishment. Freedom will disappear and serfdom shall exist in its place.

Trump’s path to victory, and therefor the people’s path to victory, is by casting light on the illegal fraudulent practices which have been employed to guarantee the election of Joe Biden.

Unfortunately, because our political class has failed the people they supposedly serve, yet again, by making sure that all aspects of elections are fair and transparent, we are now faced with the problem of how to correct what has happened and produce a fair and legal outcome. Can it be done through the courts? Or must it be done in the streets? Will the law abiding people of this nation meekly accept being robbed? Or will they fight back? Where will this all go?

    txvet2 in reply to Mac45. | November 5, 2020 at 11:13 am

    I can’t answer your questions, but I DO know that we’re way too late asking them. Once more, this hasn’t been any secret. It’s been escalating election after election because they’ve been allowed to get away with it. They’ll probably get away with it this time too, which means that next time they’ll do away with the inconvenience of even pretending to follow what laws still survive.

I don’t doubt there is election fraud perhaps even massive election fraud, but we knew that going into this. The time to stop it was before the election. Here is the reality at the moment – MI is gone, WI is gone and PA is heading in the same direction. The PA race tightens with each release of additional vote count. The ballots left to be counted are mostly mail in and those are breaking massively for Biden.

There seems to be widespread acceptance that the Senate is safe. I am telling you IT IS NOT SAFE. It is 48-48 with 4 races TBD. Republicans need 3 of those 4. With the latest update from GA, Purdue is now below 50% meaning the balance of power in the senate could come down to one or both run-offs in GA depending on what happens in NC (I assume Alaska is safely R but am concerned about the delay in completing the vote count there).

Tillis is up by about 97,000 votes in NC but I read this morning that there are 117,000 absentee ballots that were sent out but not returned by election day. In NC they have until November 12th to receive and count these ballots. In addition there are around 30,000 “provisional” ballots that have yet to be counted.

That is roughly 150,000 ballots for Democrats to target to close a gap of 97,000 votes. Republicans should have an army of people in NC examining every single one of those provisionals and new mail-ins.

Further, we need massive preparation for the run-offs in GA. Republicans must not be discouraged by the presidential results, we have to get the vote out in Georgia in January or lose the Senate.

We have to hold the Senate… the future of the country depends on it and it is not safe.

If you’re not thinking Battle of Athens you’re not serious about America. The time for lawsuits is coming to an end it’s time for the bullet box.

Tie it up and take it to the House. Don’t accept the idea that it was a good Night for Republicans. Not enough. We want DJT.

Recount is no good. Audit is the only thing that could restore my faith in the process. Nullify the vote in Michigan and other states if there is a hint of fraud. Let the legislatures select the electors per the Constitution.

Paul In Sweden | November 5, 2020 at 1:26 pm

I am dying here. There is only so long I can hold my breath. These are the same people that are counting drive-by shootings and decapitations as COVID-19 deaths.

We need to scrap this election and do it over with some oversight.
It’s already polluted beyond useful, so re-counting garbage is no solution.

If mail-in ballots were counted despite late postmarks or wrong/missing signatures, how can they be removed from the count if the ballots have been separated from the envelopes?

Is there something on the ballot itself that associates it with that particular envelope? And if so, what does that say about our so-called secret ballot?

Here in WA state, I can go to the King county website and “track” my ballot. It tells me that, yes indeed, my vote has been counted. But does that mean it has actually been recorded or only that it has been accepted as valid and added to the pile to be run through the counting machine? If the former, what’s stopping them from having a record of how I voted? If the latter, isn’t it now too late to challenge the ballot unless it contains discrepancies like voting for more than one candidate in the same race or something ambiguous like the infamous hanging chads?

    txvet2 in reply to CorkyAgain. | November 5, 2020 at 2:47 pm

    The problem is simply that the system depends on the honesty of the people running the count. If they’re criminals, as unfortunately frequently happens to be the case, then there are no protections that will work – witness Philadelphia or Detroit.

      CorkyAgain in reply to txvet2. | November 5, 2020 at 3:03 pm

      Yeah, when I said King County’s website says my ballot was counted, I’m assuming that they counted my ballot rather than some counterfeit and that they added my votes to the correct columns.

      This being deep-blue King County, those are mighty big assumptions.

    Milhouse in reply to CorkyAgain. | November 5, 2020 at 10:27 pm

    Once a ballot has been removed from its envelope and added to the pile, there is no way to identify it. That is by design, so as to preserve the secret ballot.

My civil rights have been violated by other states that have willfully failed to provide election security. If the states continue to refuse, their vote count should simply be rejected and they can answer to their constituents.

The fucking fix is in. They’re being blatant about stealing Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania AND Arizona.

And the fucking RINOs are doing LITERALLY NOTHING about it.

Not one of the so-called ‘conservatives’ in the Senate is demanding answers.

    txvet2 in reply to Olinser. | November 5, 2020 at 3:21 pm

    So… other than getting their Twitter feeds blocked, what do you suggest that they do?

    CorkyAgain in reply to Olinser. | November 5, 2020 at 3:24 pm

    The GOPe and NeverTrumpers have no objection to going back to their familiar role as the loyal opposition.

    All the graft and corruption without the responsibility to actually deliver on what the electorate wants.

    They got their tax cuts and judges, so they’re content.

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | November 5, 2020 at 3:31 pm

While we are waiting here’s an interesting article to help pass the time.

QAnon Obsession Marks the Depth of Deep State Journalism

Same comments there.

9 days ago
…..”Democrats are a satanic pedophile ring”….Savannah Guthrie

See how I took PART of a statement and cherry picked it? Welcome to US fighting back lefties!


Tex Deathknell
9 days ago
I’ve never paid much attention to Qanon, but when democrats say “Nothing to see here, folks,” you can be assured there is something to see. Now I’m curious about what they’re trying to hide.


Uwungelema Tex
9 days ago
I’ve followed Q since day one of his first post, back in October 2017 I think it was. There’s no such thing as “QAnon,” just Q.

It’s quite a remarkable movement, actually, and it’s all over the world. It’s sole purpose is to inform people of the truth through a modern-day internet-based Socratic method which requires, believe it or not, that the people reading Q’s messages must think for themselves, and research for themselves. Think of it as a multi-dimensional global game of Clue.

Their are millions upon millions of Q followers, and every single one of them is a patriot of his or her own country, and wants nothing more than to be rid of their deeply corrupt and criminal governments. That’s the whole movement in a nutshell.

The people who “chat” with Q on the boards are called Anons. There aren’t that many of them, actually, but some of them are smart as whips, and they put various pieces of the puzzle together on their own, which then leads to the deep dive scavenger hunts for more clues down what are called “rabbit holes.”

I could go on. Believe me when I tell you Q is not a conspiracy theory. It is nothing more than an international amalgamation of patriots, who want better lives for themselves, their families, and their fellow countrymen and women.

Every single one of the MSM stories about Q are wrong. Every single one. Ask yourself, why would they be freaking out so much about a mere conspiracy theory?

Check it out, you’ll be glad you did.

Pa Democrats have run rough shod over this election, including the Democrats on the Pa Supreme Court.
I will never believe Democrats won Pa. Maybe it was not good I was in and out in 4 minutes and didn’t take time to watch what was going on.

Over on Vox Day’s blog, a commenter looked up the Post Office regulations re postmarks. This excerpt caught my eye:

-1.3 Postmarks
A postmark is an official Postal Service™ imprint applied in black ink on the address side of a stamped mailpiece. A postmark indicates the location and date the Postal Service accepted custody of a mailpiece, and it cancels affixed postage. Since 1979, the Postal Service’s Postal Operations Manual (POM) has provided standards for postmarks applied to single-piece First-Class Mail®. Letters and flats that need to be postmarked come from carrier pick-up, collection boxes, retail counters, or lobby drop boxes. Postmarks are not required for mailings bearing a permit, meter, or precanceled stamp for postage, nor to pieces with an indicia applied by various postage evidencing systems.

Here in WA — and I expect other states too — our mail-in ballots do not require any postage. So I’m wondering if they do get a postmark, or if they’re handled like the other kinds of mail listed in the exception. Does anyone know?

Obviously, if there is no postmark (or equivalent) it adds another wrinkle to questions about the provenance of suspicious ballots.

What about ballots placed in drop boxes? How is the time they are received recorded?

    CommoChief in reply to CorkyAgain. | November 5, 2020 at 7:20 pm


    No offense but this is an example of what I have been preaching on this site for months. Find out the election laws in your state, find out the election procedures in your county, ask questions about process to the local elections officials so that they know someone is paying attention.

    Having said that, I believe WA is one of the few states that have been doing mail ballots forma while now. They have the institutional knowledge developed over several elections so they have figured out the points of friction and eliminated them.

    Bottom line is I would trust the votes from states with a history of large or nearly exclusive mail in ballots. The states just doing it this year, not so much confidence.

      CorkyAgain in reply to CommoChief. | November 5, 2020 at 8:12 pm

      Say rather that in states like WA, where we’ve had more experience with mail-in voting, the Dems have had correspondingly more time to devise ways to defraud the system.

      I don’t believe for a minute that our elections are any fairer.

        Fellow King County voter here. The cutoff time for ballots placed in drop boxes is handled by stationing ballot collectors at the boxes to physically remove them at the appointed time. I’m not too happy about this solution because it strikes me as a vulnerability in the system: if the ballot collectors are dishonest they could accept ballots after the deadline, or more insidiously, pitch out some ballots cast before the deadline in neighborhoods whose political allegiances are known. That said, the amount of play introduced that way is probably not too large.

        As far as the postmark issue, *supposedly* ballots will be postmarked despite the postage being provided. I can’t independently confirm this, however, nor have I seen any public announcement of the ballot *arrival* deadline.

        CommoChief in reply to CorkyAgain. | November 5, 2020 at 9:09 pm

        How about ‘less amateurish in their corrupt practices’.

        Some of the ballot grab/creation in PA, MI are way past believing. The man said go find me 25 votes and someone come back with 25K. Beyond statistical belief.

Media and commenters at Legal Insurrection claim there’s no evidence of fraud. No evidence of fraud? You can’t get no stinkin evidence when you can’t observe the ballot counting operation; when hundreds of thousands of ‘ballots’ are delivered between 3:00 a.m. and 5:00 a.m. in Detroit and Milwaukee and all are votes are strangely cast for for Biden.

In my view this is a disenfranchisement of white suburban and rural voters on a massive scale by unelected Democrat election bureaucrats (enabled by their elected Democrat bosses) in Detroit, Milwaukee, Philadelphia, Atlanta and others on a massive scale. If it is permitted to stand the consequences will be unimaginable.

In my further view, this is a natural and logical result of failure to enforce the law in urban Democrat jurisdictions. If Democrats can Burn, Loot, Murder and cause Mayhem (BLM squared) with impunity, what would possibly deter them from violating mere election laws?

My hope is that this will result in a great awakening and reaction by the disenfranchised.

Going forward, if we can get beyond this anti-democracy theft, the nation should emulate how it dealt with racist disfranchisement in the past – take the States of Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, North Carolina, Nevada, Georgia, and others that enable ballot fraud and require Federal approval — “pre-clearance,” — before making major changes to their election laws under the Voting Rights Act or through a Supreme Court decision.

Only legal votes matter.

In my opinion the fraud is already so complete and so intermingled with real ballots, that recounts and trying to figure out the true legal vote will be impossible. The only real chance of defeating the fraud is for the republican controlled legislatures to convene and vote as follows before the December 1, 2020 deadline:

1. The legislatures in these states must convene and vote that the fraud can’t be fixed; declare Trump the winner as he is obviously the victim of the fraud; declare that the electors to be sent to Washington shall be the Trump electors.

2. It is believed the legislatures have authority to do this under the USA Constitution.

People need to start calling their state representatives and state senators in these states and demand they convene to take up the above and vote on it BEFORE the December 1, 2020 deadline.

I am a frequent reader, infrequent commenter. Right now I am terrified of the fraud that is going on, and while the violations are violations of law, the only solution is a political one.
I would propose this: the legislatures of GA/PA/MI/WI each vote to send no electoral votes for their state. Refuse to certify regardless of who wins because of the allegations of fraud. Tell their states that they are going to spend the next 2 years fixing the elections system, but until they can be sure they know who the winner is they will not send electoral votes in. This is a political problem, and must be solved with political power. If the R’s don’t use their political power it is only a matter of time until it is stolen and gone forever.
This would make it so no one gets to 270 and the election goes to the House. As much as I prefer PDJT to Biden, if he is elected by the House the perception of a stolen election will be held against R’s for a generation and the country will move farther left. Since this would be a blatantly political move and would appear to be partisan, that perception could be avoided if an elector in a state that allows them (FL?) votes for someone other than Biden and PDJT. Since the 12th Amendment only allows voting on the top 3 electoral vote getters, this would allow for a caretaker President could be agreed upon for 4 years to give the country a chance to breathe and decide how we are going to move forward. I would recommend a Nikki Haley/Joe Manchin option which would please no one. They could agree that no SC justices would be appointed until after the 2024 election.
Right now, the only options for our country are splitting up, civil war, or 50% of us living with a boot on our neck. Maybe the next 4 years would give us a chance to arrange an amicable divorce. Maybe things would cool down. But no civil war. Political solution to a political problem before it becomes a military problem.

    Milhouse in reply to unidentified. | November 5, 2020 at 10:34 pm

    the legislatures of GA/PA/MI/WI each vote to send no electoral votes for their state. […] This would make it so no one gets to 270 and the election goes to the House.

    No, it wouldn’t. It would mean that Biden would no longer need 270. He’d have a majority of the electors, and would therefore win.

    I doubt that any of that is even remotely constitutional, much less inclined to give us stable and effective governance.

      CommoChief in reply to txvet2. | November 6, 2020 at 9:24 am

      The other way out there option is for litigation to tie up the process. Then the state legislature utilize it’s authority to select electors and send up Trump electors.

      See election of 1824 where several state legislature acted. No winner, went to HoR.

One of the biggest scandals of all of this, is what a piece of sh*t AB Barr is.

I told ya.

OUTRAGEOUS: Attorney General Bill Barr Remains Silent and Then Issues Statement to Contact FBI with Any Fraud Issues:

Just a question … is there a difference between “committing fraud” and “committed fraud”? From a legal / prosecutory standpoint?

Heard from a friend today who lamented “it’s happening in plain view and no one is doing anything about it” … and I was mindful of my time nearly 50 years ago working in retail. IF I saw someone put merchandise in a purse, coat or pocket, and I stopped them while still in the store, it was not proveable shoplifting because they could claim “I was going to pay for it – why did you stop me?” But IF I followed them out of the store and detained them, their intent to steal the merchandise was clear, because they bypassed the cash-registers and left without paying.

So at this moment, there are numerous attempts to steal the election, but technically, it is not stolen yet. What if this is just a case of “give them enough rope” before Trump and co. hangs them with it? Certainly we’re piling up the evidence / examples right now and the Dems will never again claim “there is no vote fraud” …

Saw a most intriguing twitter post this morning – the poster is a Q follower – still it’s an interesting possibility to consider.

Consider: Dept of Homeland Security controlled “official ballots” production.

Dems print extras, not knowing about non-radioactive isotope watermarks on “official ballots”.

Military sting operation.

After weeding out all counterfeit ballots, Trump landslide confirmed.

Who knows – but I have this as confidence, Trump is not so stupid as to leave his re-election in the hands of the Dems who cheat in the counting and reporting. I have to believe Trump is about to beat them senseless. Just waiting for them to complete the steal and declare victory. We could wind up with all the evidence needed to jail people responsible and reform our elections from now on.

    Milhouse in reply to MrE. | November 5, 2020 at 10:46 pm

    Why would they use counterfeit ballots? It seems pretty obvious that whatever they’re doing, they’re doing it with real ballots.

I bet Putin’s having a good laugh about this. If he indeed wanted to interfere in our election and divide us he couldn’t have done better than the Democrats. Not to mention the rest of the world witnessing the hypocrisy of our expousing “free elections”.

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | November 5, 2020 at 10:51 pm


Gateway Pundit

BREAKING: 73,976 Ballots Released By Maricopa County — 56.1% FOR DONALD TRUMP

BREAKING: Arizona’s Liberal Stronghold Pima County Posts 28,344 More Ballots — TRUMP TAKES THEM BY 5.1% MARGIN

WATCH: Ballot Count Watcher Describes At Least 130,000 Ballots ALL FOR BIDEN Arriving in Three Vehicles in Detroit in Dead of Night

Poll Watcher in Michigan Kicked Out of Detroit Hall But Not Before They Obtained Evidence of Potential Fraud

As Many as 6,000 Illegal Votes Identified in Nevada – Thousands of People Referred to DOJ For Potential Criminal Violation of Election Laws

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | November 5, 2020 at 10:53 pm

4 For you are not a God who is pleased with wickedness; with you, evil people are not welcome. 5 The arrogant cannot stand in your presence. You hate all who do wrong; 6 you destroy those who tell lies. The bloodthirsty and deceitful you, LORD, detest.

Psalms 5

There are six things that the Lord hates, seven that are an abomination to him: haughty eyes, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises wicked plans, feet that make haste to run to evil, a false witness who breathes out lies, and one who sows discord among brothers (Proverbs 6:16-19)

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | November 5, 2020 at 11:10 pm

The Moment The Election Ended, Oregon Gov Brought In National Guard To Clear Out Antifa In Portland…

Deplorably Bonnie Blue

So, it was all a political stunt. What a surprise

Weasel Zippers

SEVEN VOTERS Older than the Oldest Human Being Alive Today Voted in Michigan Including One Man Born in 1850


There are always. in every presidential election year, a handful of ballots scattered randomly about a state, on both sides, where there’s a vote for POTUS, nothing down ballot. This link to zerohedge, not my favorite site, has a few numbers for this year. They’re out of whack, in every way possible. The only thing missing from the analysis is- are they randomly scattered throughout the state- or all in one city or county? The numbers themselves indicate massive fraud. If they’re concentrated in a specific city or county, or even just a few rather than scattered about, they’re prima facie evidence of fraud- and should be thrown out- on both sides, completely, just to make it fair.

Democrats stole Georgia last night. Went to bed when Trump was up 3,000. Woke up and Biden leads by about 1,000. Completely voter fraud. I had to show my ID and have my signature verified. I reject any vote count that doesn’t do this as well. is reporting that at least two postal workers inn PA have said that they have been told to separate late ballots so that the post marks could be back date to pre Nov 3

I don’t see anyone on LI noting that it is Federal Marshals that are arresting the human traffickers not the FBI. The FBI is no longer trusted to do their duty. That is why the DHS is investigating ballot fraud and not the FBI. What is coming out of this election and PDJT 4 years is half the country now doesn’t trust the other half of the country or trust their federal officials. We are ripe for ????