DC MAGA March: Trump Visits Large Crowds, Antifa/BLM Attack [UPDATE]
As the enormous pro-Trump, pro-America crowd dispersed, antifa and BLM targeted families, young couples, women, and other patriots who were isolated from the crowd
On Saturday, supporters of President Trump gathered in Washington DC to protest an election that certainly looks suspect and to support the candidate they believe lawfully won.
While we don’t yet have an official attendance tally for the #MillionMAGAMarch, it is abundantly clear that thousands, perhaps tens—or even hundreds—of thousands, rallied to support Trump and his efforts to have every legal vote counted.
President Trump, as he did outside Walter Reed, thanked his supporters with a motorcade visit.
Needless to say, the leftist activist media is downplaying the numbers, making false claims and insinuations about MAGA violence, and downplaying the impressive rally at every turn. And of course, antifa and BLM were on hand to assault Trump supporters as they were leaving the event. Like a roving pack of animal predators, they attacked those they found isolated from the MAGA crowd.
The crowds of Trump supporters gathered quickly, and it wasn’t long before the massive nature of the event was felt among them. Indeed, jokes were reportedly flying about how the media would downplay the numbers.
As crowd realizes how massive rally is jokes start flying about how media will claim that there are a few thousand people here. pic.twitter.com/Bt95Qv2mLJ
— Mollie (@MZHemingway) November 14, 2020
Right on cue, Politico “reported” that ‘hundreds’ were in attendance (via Twitchy); the article title even says “thousands.”
A week after the presidential race was called for Joe Biden, hundreds of Trump loyalists converged on the nation’s capital to protest the election results and falsely assert the vote was stolen https://t.co/oLawPageQy
— POLITICO (@politico) November 14, 2020
It sure looks like far more than ‘hundreds’ to me, but you be the judge.
AMAZING! Can hear you all from the West Wing Colonnade. A beautiful day in Washington, D.C. THANK YOU, PATRIOTS!! #MAGA??? pic.twitter.com/RJJ8bvYlfr
— Dan Scavino??? (@DanScavino) November 14, 2020
The crowd at the Supreme Court following the #MillionMAGAMarch from Freedom Plaza in DC. #StopTheSteaI #MillionMAGAMarch2020 pic.twitter.com/tYtUXufIh5
— Jan Jekielek (@JanJekielek) November 14, 2020
I’ve never seen anything like it! ?? #MarchForTrump pic.twitter.com/qoRVj0bJAN
— #ThePersistence (@ScottPresler) November 14, 2020
Apparently, the activist media was “reporting” from blocks away from the actual rally in their ongoing effort to gaslight the American people.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327724046595842049
The Trump rally included the gathered patriots singing the national anthem.
11/14/2020 – Washington, D.C.#MarchForTrump #MAGA??? https://t.co/07KbzbjZvf
— Dan Scavino??? (@DanScavino) November 14, 2020
President Trump had signaled Friday that he might make a surprise visit to the rally on Saturday.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327319294057848832
And sure enough he did:
https://twitter.com/MilionMagaMarch/status/1327636303668801536
While the MAGA rally was taking place, MAGA patriots vastly outnumbered the antifa/BLM horde, who cowered behind a line of police for fear the actually peaceful MAGA gathering would become violent and they would be harmed.
Large group of antifa black bloc have amassed to confront participants of the #MillionMAGAMarch. Antifa are outnumbered and being protected by a line of police. Video by @livesmattershow: pic.twitter.com/7d3n2s7iDm
— Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) November 14, 2020
DC: Antifa is now being protected by MPD officers in riot gear
Tensions rise here in front of the US Supreme Court between Trump Supporters and Antifa
Antifa is completely out numbered today here in DC pic.twitter.com/cpbQXWB1GF
— Drew Hernandez (@DrewHLive) November 14, 2020
The irony of faux anarchists and radical socialists who want the police abolished/defunded sniveling behind these very police officers is rich (via Twitchy).
https://twitter.com/Ronagig/status/1327678103267790850
https://twitter.com/MJ2025/status/1327680358024929282
When someone tells you who they are, believe them.
Sign says "Punch a MAGA in the face."
Which side is violent? https://t.co/rKGRhr3Sw9
— Suburban Sheepdog (@RobertKuntz) November 14, 2020
As the enormous pro-Trump, pro-America crowd dispersed, antifa and BLM targeted families, young couples, women, and other patriots who were isolated from the crowd.
Trump supporters are being denied from BLM Plaza and harassed by black bloc members. This woman had her hat taken, her flag repeatedly ripped away (eventually it was stolen) and later her hair was pulled as people in the crowd followed them away from the plaza pic.twitter.com/tq3SNdBB2v
— Shelby Talcott (@ShelbyTalcott) November 14, 2020
https://twitter.com/justericthomas/status/1327741218562904066
After stealing a flag from a Trump supporter, antifa break the stick and sharpen it to make a spear. #MillionMAGAMarch.
Video by @BGOnTheScene: pic.twitter.com/bIBefwQZ2y
— Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) November 14, 2020
A family with children are in tears as they are followed and harassed by antifa. #MillionMAGAMarch https://t.co/Kb8f2sJ1e5
— Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) November 14, 2020
Young couple in DC followed by crowd of BLM-antifa thugs who hit them and throw liquid on them. #MillionMAGAMarch pic.twitter.com/Lqo4evvviK
— Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) November 14, 2020
“You better run mother f—ker”
BLM-antifa assault older man trying to leave the area after the #MillionMAGAMarch. pic.twitter.com/S26myo9bgk
— Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) November 14, 2020
BLM rioter rushes in and punches a woman in the back of the head as she’s walking away. #MillionMAGAMarch pic.twitter.com/1lrfD4MLxW
— Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) November 14, 2020
Antifa hit and steal young woman’s phone after the #MillionMAGAMarch. pic.twitter.com/ikc1feAEFk
— Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) November 14, 2020
“I’ll blow your ass up. Come on, you wanna go?”
BLM protesters in DC confront people leaving the #MillionMAGAMarch. Video by @sav_says_: https://t.co/QnyFjdsiPU
— Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) November 14, 2020
BLM groups threaten elderly couple and attempts to steal their Trump Flag #MillionMAGAMarch pic.twitter.com/1kIYO2mg4e
— Jorge Ventura Media (@VenturaReport) November 14, 2020
Later, antifa/BLM thugs accosted Trump supporters at DC restaurants.
BLM-antifa rioters hurl projectiles and an explosive at people having dinner after the #MillionMAGAMarch in DC. pic.twitter.com/syDM7YQFrS
— Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) November 14, 2020
DC Police rush to protect the entrance of a hotel near BLM Plaza. Lots of shoving by police. pic.twitter.com/KMoZOWjQOm
— Julio Rosas (@Julio_Rosas11) November 14, 2020
Unable to rush the lobby of The Capital Hilton hotel in DC, a mob of BLM-antifa are standing in the street and shining lights and lasers into the building’s windows. Video by @livesmattershow: pic.twitter.com/CmCvk8tCXk
— Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) November 14, 2020
Yes, these antifa/BLM cowards are ‘fearless’ when they’ve identified a vulnerable person or family to victimize en masse, but they were happy to huddle behind riot police for protection when they were outnumbered.
The event itself was a huge success.
Reminds me of the #TeaParty ?#MarchForTrump ?? pic.twitter.com/RJJS67CDbD
— Katrina Pierson (@KatrinaPierson) November 14, 2020
Thank You All! What A Great #MarchForTrump! #MAGA ?? https://t.co/xx7rD2nXCP
— Mike Pence (@Mike_Pence) November 14, 2020
[FS UPDATE]
Reports are circulating that DC police are, in one form or another, standing down and that various pro-Trump groups, including the Proud Boys are attempting to restore order in DC and to stop antifa/BLM thugs from assaulting Trump supporters.
Trump supporters, staying at the Willard Hotel, welcome a crowd Proud Boys. Earlier, members of Blac Bloc threw fireworks at Trump supporters eating outside the hotel. pic.twitter.com/ZfresGj9lW
— Phillip Nieto (@nieto_phillip) November 15, 2020
As the MAGA crowds dispersed, the antifa/BLM mobs preyed upon the vulnerable who were separated from their fellow Trump supporters. If the DC police were not willing to protect the defenseless, it’s no wonder that Trump supporters welcomed whatever protection they got.
President Trump is outraged by the events.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1327828007311073280
As is their MO, the antifa/BLM cowards sucker punch or hide behind police from grown men but are happy to attack women, children, and the elderly.
The side that is always referred to as “peaceful” is almost never peaceful https://t.co/dTodoHjh8H
— Caleb Hull (@CalebJHull) November 14, 2020
Antifa scum attacked the elderly, women and children today. https://t.co/fJ2Omck3D6
— Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) November 15, 2020
[End FS UPDATE]
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Perhaps it is time to start the killing.
Killing is wrong, unless in self-defense. Elective abortion is a forward-looking, socially progressive act of social justice. Semantic games, Twilight faith, Pro-Choice quasi-religion. Principles matter.
Rittenhouse is a good role model. Don’t kneel. Assess the risk. Stand your ground. Stand with your community. React with a measured response when there is an immediate, progressive risk to life. The “White Hispanic” is another good example, albeit dangerously close to a final, wicked threshold, of following the self-defense protocol.
Get a load of this.
Anti-Trump Dominion Voting Systems Security Chief
Was Participating in Antifa Calls,
GET READY: The Show Is Just Starting – Democrats Rigged the Voting Machines, They Attempted a Steal – And They Got Caught
Gateway Pundit
BLM and Antifa have earned being killed. i is hard to believe that no one has started killing them in mass yet. They are people who are incapable of reasoning, they are dumb POS, and parasites on the rest of society. Time to cull all the POS.
How about they’re ARRESTED?
If that fat asshole rat Barr wasn’t so a goddam coward and swamp POS, we wouldn’t have to be talking about having to figure out how to protect ourselves.
The very threats to our lives and our freedom lie at the feet of Jeff Sessions and William Barr: two turncoat scumbags, who should forever be scorned as the cowards and bastards they are.
BLM and Antifa are sanctioned by the Deep State. You know, the people who just stole the election? Do you not yet understand what is happening? What do you think is going to happen should Trump not prevail? Everyone’s mother shows up to drag their adult children home by the ears?
No. Arrest and release. Except for those using their constitutional rights to defend themselves against the government’s Black Shirts.
This is what happens when people keep voting for a party whose mantra is “it’s never EVER the right time to do the right thing.” So now the “right thing to do” is to have these thugs arrest and judge each other?
Arrested? So some DA won’t prosecute? Some judge releases them with a stern talking-to? Please.
“How about they’re ARRESTED?”
Except that they have not for the most part being arrested, and if they are arrested they have been released. If the system will not or cannot punish them, then their victims or bystanders need to take action, as in one or two bullets.
Every time one of these SOBs gets away with assaulting someone, they are emboldened to do so repeatedly.
The Multnomah County DA (Portland, OR) has charged less than 1% arrested in the protests. If anything the arrest is safe extraction from the melee to return tomorrow to do the same.
BLM and ANTIFA are terrorist organizations. They should be arrested and sent to GITMO were they can be water boarded and given a military trial.
The Democrat Nationalist Socialist Party is doing this all around the nation.
https://mobile.twitter.com/stillgray/status/1327837001299554304
Ian Miles Cheong
@stillgray
They want to disenfranchise conservatives.
Here is Jon Ossoff, Democrat running for Georgia Senate, with a stunningly beautiful call to unity. (SNARK since he is threatening people’s lives)
Paul, starting a race riot is not a good idea. Let cooler heads prevail.
Embargo Washington DC, Nothing in, Nothing out, Build a wall and be prepared not to be a victim. Gun laws outside the city are easier. maga Embargo DC!
It does feel that way doesn’t it.
Uh No..now would be the time for Republican state legislatures to use their constitutional authority to refuse to certify a slate of electors. But let’s be realistic. They have no spines and will do nothing. And as much as I like Sydney Powell, I just don’t see the “Kraken” and one thing about Kraken’s is they’re pretty frigging obvious.
Upcoming letter from an Antifa member to his mother:
“Dear Mom,
Punching old people and knocking down kids was fun…until the shooting started. I’m in the hospital now. The doctors and nurses are very nice. They say that with a lot of hard work and luck, I might even walk again one day.”
Doctor says I need a backiotomy if I’m ever going to get out of this bed.
Neo-Nazi Antifa entrapping people, and neo-KKK Some, Select Black Lives Matter intimidation.
Proud boys are in DC bearing the shot out of these punks and it’s a great thing to watch!!!
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1327791389279567872?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
Anita and BLM wayy out numbered and getting their ass’es kicked
A beautiful day
Kicking their tails is good,but body bagged would be much better, and it would improve the gene pool.
If just one person had been killed, that would have been all anyone remembered of this day. One person got killed in Charlottesville, by a lone nutcase in an incident that had nothing to do with the main event, and yet that one martyr is now permanently attached to the whole day. No discussion can be had about the Antifa violence that day without bringing her up, and her death trumps anything they did. Is that what you want?
Yeah, what is needed was an army of lawyers with their yellow legal pads at the ready. That’s what was missing at Kristallnacht.
These are state-sponsored thugs! Arrest them and they are back on the street in a couple of hours without charges.
If we kick the shit out of a few thousands of them, we would all benefit it that was what was reported. The more Americans get to understand that we are not sheep and can fight back in great numbers, the sooner this will end.
You’re a nut. A dangerous nut. You’re not calling for defensive force, you’re calling for killing them. And that would completely destroy us. One death, and we would be the villains of the day; a large number of deaths and the FBI would be rounding us up, with the army’s help and the support of 90% of the people. Because the story would not be them killing us — nobody on our side was killed; it would be us killing them.
Even in Kenosha, where Kyle Rittenhouse was clearly justified in what he did, and had he not done so he would very likely have suffered grievous bodily harm if not death, the people he killed became the story. But there the rioting had already been reported, and couldn’t be un-reported, so people already had the context in which to understand it. And if asked we can easily explain in simple terms why he had to act, and why he is a hero. But yesterday nobody was in any danger of death or serious injury, so using lethal force in return would not have been justified, and in any case the antifa violence was not reported, just as it was not reported in Charlottesville, so the public would have no context in which to understand any killing. It would have been an unmitigated disaster for our side, so thank God everyone on our side kept their heads.
Sorry Milhouse, but you are about five days late and five dollars short.
The vast majority of Trump supporters abhor the idea of civil war in the streets. They are people who honor law and order. However, there are those in our society who are not like that. We have a large class of people who are determined to destroy this society. They include AntiFa, BLM snd several others. Not only do they not care about law and order, the underpinnings of society, but they WANT chaos, strife and civil war. Then we have members of the elite establishment class who are intent on destroying the populist movement, which threats their positions and power. They encourage the anarchists to destroy the society, so that they can remake it in a manner ore conducive to their interests. Several of the governments, in this country, have turned against their own people. So, when the barbarians run amuck; burning, looting, raping, pillaging, injuring and killing people; to whom does the populous turn for protection? And, you worry about bad press, while a civil war is in progress.
The law abiding citizens of this country sent a message to the elite establishment class in 2016 that the were tired of being ignored and change must be instituted. They did this at the ballot box. Since then the establishment has waged war upon them. They came back in 2020 and sent the same message, again via the ballot box. No barricades in the streets. No riots. No killings, except in self defense. No arson or looting. Just a return to the ballot box. Even while under direct physical attack, they have shown nearly saintly restraint. There is nearly overwhelming evidence that organized election fraud was used to steal a national Presidential election from Trump and the populist citizenry. And, still they eschew violence and embrace the rule of law. But, the establishment and their lackeys have mistakenly mistaken such restraint for weakness. And, are rapidly pushing the populist citizenry to the point where they will have no choice but to follow the tenets set forth in the Declaration of Independence.
The thought of violence in the streets may terrify you, as it does most people. But, when you are surrounded and being attacked by wolves, the time for civilized negotiation is past. A violent backlash is coming. It could have been headed off as little as six months ago, if government had done its job. But, that did not happen. Now, local and state governments all over the country are on the verge of collapse and the federal government is in dire danger of following suit. If government will not be responsive to its citizens and protect them and THEIR interests, then he hous of cards collapses and has to be rebuilt. The question is, will our external enemies allow that rebuilding to happen, if we fall?
It’s populace, not “populous”.
How many people did they kill yesterday? The answer is none. Not one person. So shove your lies where the sun don’t shine. They are not killing us, and if one of us had killed even one of them, that would be the only story. And the whole populace would be howling for us to be rounded up. That seems to be what you want.
Oh, absolutely! To hell with principles or doing what’s right or necessary; think of the OPTICS! How brilliant of Milhouse to sum up everything that is wrong with the GOP and why we are in our current state of cultural collapse.
We win or lose on the optics alone. The whole point of that rally was optics; violence from our side would have destroyed it. If we become perceived as killers the people will support rounding us up and destroying us.
The problem is we are still waiting for liberals, MSNBC and Democrats to give us permission to fight for our rights. Wake up fools. When the numbers of dead on both sides is not one but hundreds and Whoopi Cushion and Joyless Bearfart are scared to death to show their faces then we will be getting somewhere. As long as our biggest fear is bad press and we aren’t even willing to risk that sacrifice then we will continue to have our asses handed to us.
Did antifa kill anyone yesterday? No. Did they come even close to that? No. Did they cause anyone serious injury, that would justify lethal force in defense? No. So even one death on their side would have wiped out all their violence and made us the villains, just as it did in Charlottesville. Is that what you want? If so you are a moby and a troll.
So, Milhouse misses some clips…. America-supporter was shoved to the ground, or punched to the ground, and THEN HIS HEAD WAS KICKED AND STOMPED.
THAT IS A SERIOUS, LIFE-THREATENING INJURY MILHOUSE.
I was at the Rally. It was Glorious.
Once again, CloseTheFed, (by the way, only a nut would want to do that) how many people did they kill yesterday? None. Not a single one. I saw that clip; the guy was not killed. He got up and walked away. If just one of them had been killed, what would the story have been? Tell me that, honestly, if you’re even capable of honesty.
You believe in a version of Obama’s “Leading from Behind”. Instead you believe in holding your gun held firmly against your chest backwards so that anybody that should choose can pull the trigger.
Milhouse, I always read your comments, because I find them thought provoking and realistic, even though I might not agree. On this topic (optics, etc.) you are correct, although I have to disagree. At some point.
With respect, your point seems to be that the media/law enforcement, etc. is loaded against the Deplorables. That the game isn’t played on a level field.
The Rittenhouse affair is a clear example. From what I have read, it was clear self defense. Had he not brought a weapon–he might not have been attacked or he might be dead. He did bring the weapon and he not used it he would have been seriously injured or dead.
As is, he is facing a raft of felony murder charges, all with “enhancements”. He might never see the outside of a cell. Even if he does, he has been portrayed as some sort of white extremist that set out to kill BLM saints. He will never shake that the rest of his life.
So–optics is everything? Not quite.
At some point, you have to identify a hill to die on. Push does come to shove, and tit for tat proportional responses just result in further escalation. The only way that escalation stops is for the response to be unacceptable. Which means disproportionate. Consequences be damned.
It appears that you believe that time isn’t now. If so, I agree. Where we may differ is –does that camel’s back ever break?
Not that I think we are anything close to this–nor should we be–but this country has some 200M firearm owners. (I don’t think anyone really knows. A friend has told me about a bunch that the government has no way of knowing exist). Now 90+ percent of those firearm owners will turn them in and fade away. But there are 5-10 percent that won’t.
I don’t want this to seem wholly a 2nd Amendment point. It goes for all forms of “resistance”. Most–overwhelmingly–will go along. Our hope is that not all will.
It is a variation of the apocryphal “rough men willing to do violence on our behalf”.
Rittenhouse did not do as you advocate. On the contrary, he did the exact opposite. He did not fire on anyone until he had no choice, and then he fired only on the people who were directly attacking him at that moment, and whom he had no choice but to shoot if he was to survive. He kept his head under fire and is an exemplary young man.
You are calling for the exact opposite. You want people who are not threatening anyone’s life (as evidence by the fact that they didn’t kill anyone) to have been killed. And that would have destroyed everything yesterday’s rally was for. In one moment, the whole day would have become not just wasted but counterproductive.
Masked terrorists are not ordinary criminals. They are unlawful combatants. If they are masked and committing acts of terrorism in public, they should be dealt with on the spot.
“Masked terrorists are not ordinary criminals.”
Is it the masked part or the terrorists part that ruffles you?
Are we to make exceptions for ordinary, domestic murderers, and clamp down on terrorists who commit murder?
Does a surviving family care who held the machete?
thetaqjr, the communist murderer of 100,000,000 + wishes to lecture you on the evils of fighting back against communists like him.
Pond scum laden with bacteria has more character than this murderer.
Sounds like the DC Mayor was directly involved. Some racial extremist(s) painted domestic terrorist slogans on the street in front of a White House. DC must be restored as a federal district and NEVER be regarded as an autonomous entity.
If residents want to vote, let them register with either of the bordering communist entities.
Hear.
Hear.
“After stealing a flag from a Trump supporter, antifa break the stick and sharpen it to make a spear.”
Wasn’t this an early scene in “2001: A Space Odyssey?”
In NYC you’re not allowed to bring a stick of any kind to a rally or demonstration, for this exact reason. Flags and signs have to be held up in your hands, nothing that can be turned into a weapon.
Plenty of laws are on the books but how they are,or if they are, enforced is the issue. The selective protection of Antifa and BLM from the consequences of their illegal actions shows that equal protection is a farce. I remember our Intourist guide extolling the virtues of the Soviet Constitution….or even the late RBG the same for South Africa….but good luck on being on the wrong side or color.
The point is that in NYC the Trump demonstrators would not have been allowed to have the flagpole, so the antifa would not have been able to grab it and turn it into a weapon.
I’ve said this before but it’s worth repeating. You would have ended WWII by standing on Omaha Beach telling both sides what they are doing is illegal. Who is the nut? Wars aren’t won on paper and we are in a war being waged on us by terrorists foreign and domestic. And you live in NYC? Smell the coffee already.
In the 1970s and 1980s, members of biker gangs would carry large aircraft grade aluminum police type flashlights on their belts, even in the daytime. Why? Because while carrying firearms would not be legal and knives and clubs led to police contacts, flashlights did not. Weapons such as firearms were usually carried by female associates, for the males, as police could not justify searching women in many cases. Now, we have frozen water bottles instead of bricks. Bicycle locks and chains and skateboards as flails and clubs. YAHOO, baby. You Always Have Other Options.
Why the down votes? I what Milhouse says not true? If it is, don’t shoot the messenger.
I do wonder how vigorously this is enforced against the BLM/ anti-fa types.
Because milhouse is an apologist for the marxist progs. You’ll not find him willing to stand against the pantifa crowd with his legal regulations.
Once the compact of democracy has been broken, there is no more rule of law – we are no longer obligated to follow the dictates of a regime that wishes to destroy all freedom and liberty.
The police are protecting pantifa when they are outnumbered, and directing Trump supporters into the clutches of pantifa and providing no protection to those Trump supporters.
Your words in multiple comments:
“But yesterday nobody was in any danger of death or serious injury, so using lethal force in return would not have been justified…”
Of course Trump supporters were in danger. Just because most of them were in a large supportive crowd doesn’t change the facts – anyone caught out was in danger. You’re a fool writing nonsense and apologizing for the pantifa crowd that has attacked Trump supporters all across the country.
“They are not killing us…”
You don’t read the news? Of course they are killing us. Several people have been assassinated by pantifa and several attempts have been made.
“Did they cause anyone serious injury, that would justify lethal force in defense? No.”
Pantifa has seriously injured numerous Trump supporters going back months.
“…how many people did they kill yesterday?”
Yesterday? How about we go back several months to know what they are capable of.
“You want people who are not threatening anyone’s life (as evidence by the fact that they didn’t kill anyone) to have been killed.”
What absolute BS. Of course they are threatening lives. You will not be caught there because you’re an old chicken unwilling to stand up to the fascists. You prefer to apologize for them.
The only lies are the ones you tell.
Barry, you are full not only of sh*t but of dangerous sh*t.
On Saturday nobody was in danger of death or serious injury. You admit it yourself: “Just because most of them were in a large supportive crowd doesn’t change the facts”. But of course that does change the facts. The fact that without their numbers some of them would have been in such danger doesn’t change the fact that since they did have their numbers they weren’t, and thus the use of lethal force, as you advocate, would not have been justified.
What they have done on other occasions, going back months, is completely irrelevant. The only relevant question is were they killing anyone right then and there, and the answer is no, they weren’t. To justify lethal force this person must be posing a threat of death or serious injury to someone, right here and now. Not five minutes ago, let alone five weeks or months ago. Let alone what some other person, with whom this person shares some characteristic, may have done.
To do otherwise, as you advocate, is murder, and if you do it you will be arrested, tried, and convicted, and possibly executed, and you will deserve it. That has always been the law, not just here but in every civilized country.
Point well taken.
Milhouse does make some good points. But, he is firmly in the old “Better Red than Dead” camp. And, as most Leftists, he cannot forgo puerile name calling as opposed to reasoned disagreement.
Yes, did M get the facts wrong?
If what he claimed is not factual, correct him. Per se, Downvotes don’t enlighten any reader.
Let me in on your secret, Lich. Please.
Not you lich, , forgive. I agreed with you.
Was any of this on the MSM?
I haven’t heard much about the Black Pansies lately.
It’s time for the far left to start fearing the repercussions of their actions.
Create your own tune, in the holiday spirit.
I’m dreaming of more white privilege …
Black lives don’t matter much to me …
We de-spise all action
From Jes-se Jackson
Who can’t spell N-A-A-C-P.
Nice troll.
Barr.
This lies at the feet of AG Barr. All of it.
Um, how?
Where is he?
What has he done to stop the violence directed at Trump supporters?
How many have been arrested for carrying out illegal spying operations?
How many have been arrested for the attempted coup?
What is AG Barr doing about election fraud?
Where is his pet bulldog, Durham?
Enough with this obsession of yours. Is he your ex-husband?
Why can’t I block the trolls here? Like Milhouse?
There is this amazing thing called ‘self-control’. You use it for all sorts of useful actions. You can, not read, things that bother you. You can use it to wait for a few minutes before responding when your emotions are high. You can even use it to navigate life in a measured and non hysterical manner. You should check it out. 🙂
What is going on with Legal Insurrection’s coverage of the ongoing election fraud expose? There seems to be a great deal going on regarding the voting machines, software, and ownership of the systems.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/
@LLinWood
Biden & his criminal cronies are not going to sleep well tonight. Well, Biden might because he probably forgot the name Scytl.
His co-conspirators know name well. They also know the name Paragon, company which purchased Scytl in 10/20.
Conservatives are going to have to stop being so reasonable. It’s like we are sitting around waiting for the Democratic Party, Antifa and the BLM to give us permission to defend ourselves, defend our values and defend our country. It isn’t going to work people.
eakj, It’s the First Strike paradigm used by our military in terms of nuclear policy. We, the good guys (the USA), will never strike first because it would make us look bad in the eyes of the world. The policy came about in the 1950s. I think that policy needs to be re-evaluated.
These thugs prey on the weakest among us when we are most vulnerable. Families with children, elderly, restaurant patrons, … Then like pack wolves, they isolate people who are leaving the scene for harassment and violence. They are NOT expecting us to retaliate.
Let’s turn the tables on them. Break up their groups, force them to run, chase them down and give their supporters something to think about. We outnumber them and we’ve finally had it!!! We are all Proud Boys now!
I’m not. Correct me, they are thugs, too.
With the choice of having to sit down in my house with someone from 1 group, i guess I choose Proud. But I doubt I’d invite anyone from any of the three into my house.
Response? Any apologists for the Proud Boys?
The Proud Boys, led by a Black man, would probably bring a Bible to your meeting.
That depends what exactly the Proud Boys do, which probably varies depending on which Proud Boys you’re talking about, and on what occasion. For instance, my understanding (and if it’s incorrect I invite people to correct me) is that this Saturday the Proud Boys came prepared to defend themselves if necessary, but did not initiate any violence. It was only when they saw people being attacked that they came to those people’s defense. And the level of force they used seems to have been appropriate to the situation; as much as was necessary and no more. I don’t see how anyone can object to that. If you have information otherwise, please provide it. But assuming that my understanding is true I will not just “apologize” for them but defend them outright. Wouldn’t you?
On the other hand if groups operating under the “Proud Boys” name have on occasion initiated violence then of course they were wrong. I don’t see how anyone can argue with that either.
There will be plenty of bloodshed before Jan 20th. These violent anarchists need responded to with violence in self defense. It’s all they understand. We can’t let our country be run, or president decided, by these assholes.
My take-away from all of these demonstrations: police do nothing because they are obeying orders. It was no different durning the Night of Broken Glass. They obey orders.
The police are NOT your friend, and will NOT be on your side when the civil war gets hotter than it already is.
I went to school with kids whose parents survived Germany’s experiment with the New World Order. One father told me that it was the police that rousted people from their homes in the dead of night, and herded them into trucks. “They smiled and tipped their hats. They ate in your restaurants; brought you their broken radios to mend. That was LAST week. Now, they had their orders…!”
The problem is we are still waiting for liberals, MSNBC and Democrats to give us permission to fight for our rights. Wake up fools. When the numbers of dead on both sides is not one but hundreds and Whoopi Cushion and Joyless Bearfart are scared to death to show their faces then we will be getting somewhere. As long as our biggest fear is bad press and we aren’t even willing to risk that sacrifice then we will continue to have our asses handed
While I applaud the people who attend in support of these rallies, I also cannot fathom the ignorance of organizers who continue to hold them, time and again, in liberal strongholds. They keep rallying where attendees are (a) legally not allowed to protect themselves and (b) have to rely on democrat controlled union police who stand down and/or even block escape routes that then require forced navigation of unarmed rally attendees back through antifa terrorist strongholds…..and then, again, don’t protect unarmed attendees.
They’re holding them in the right places. However, no one should allow their selves to be caught out in a small group. If you defend yourself you will be charged with some crime. And pantifa will not be charged, the police protect them.
The cops in the cities have chosen sides. Not ours.
Time to abandon the cities to their fate and fortify the suburbs. There’s a war coming.