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VP Debate Verdict: Kamala Harris showed there’s still no there, there

VP Debate Verdict: Kamala Harris showed there’s still no there, there

Harris tried to laugh and giggle her way through the debate. She had some canned one-liners, but showed that her knowledge still is a mile wide, and an inch deep.

On September 12, 2019, after an abysmal debate performance by Kamala Harris, I wrote, Kamala Harris’ campaign should have ended tonight at #DemDebate: She proved beyond a reasonable doubt that there’s no there, there.

But my big takeaway is that someone’s campaign should have ended tonight. Kamala Harris. Her performance tonight was an embarrassment of canned one- and two-liners bashing Trump, and anecdotal stories about people she’s met.

Her opening statement ended by telling Trump to go back to watching Fox News.

On the issue of trade policy, she compared Trump to the Wizard of Oz. The joke failed, with George Stephanopoulos reacting awkwardly.

When Biden noted (correctly) that the constitution would prevent Harris from many of the sweeping executive orders she’s promising, particularly on guns, Harris didn’t disagree, she simply said she’ll do it anyway …

Kamala Harris proved me wrong — I’ve viewed her as someone whose intellect is a mile wide and an inch deep. I’d like to revise that assessment — her intellect is a mile wide and half-an-inch deep. There’s no there, there.

Kamala Harris’ campaign should have been over tonight. But I’m not making predictions.

Harris’ campaign to win the presidential nomination was over, and ended with a massive flop before voting started. Harris was rewarded for her failure with a nomination to be Vice President. But there’s still no there, there, her intellect still is a mile wide and an inch deep, and she proved it again tonight.

Harris gave a giggly response to the important issue of a vaccine:

Pence absolutely crushed the follow up, and Harris never responded:

Pence also pointed out Harris’ own radical record. She had no response.

Harris spent much of the debate smirking and laughing:

Harris also refused to answer the question about court packing:

Harris repeated numerous lies about the “both sides” Charlottesville and calling coronavirus a “hoax, but was ineffective in making arguments.

A laugh and a giggle is not an argument. There’s still no there, there.


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Close The Fed | October 7, 2020 at 10:36 pm

She appeared to be smiling even when talking about the deaths of Americans. She condescended throughout.

She got 2% of the dems’ primary votes.

It’s obvious why.

    Joe-dallas in reply to Close The Fed. | October 7, 2020 at 10:58 pm

    On a substantive level she is a serious intellectual baffoon . That being said , her presentation was good enough that it isn’t going to move the needle.

    The portion of the electorate that hasn’t made a choice is too small .

    The good thing is her performance isn’t going to bring voters to the polls.

    B Buchanan in reply to Close The Fed. | October 8, 2020 at 1:14 am

    Close The Fed – about her being condescending …

    I was re-playing a reply from the debate when my 13 year old grandson walked through the room. At the conclusion he paused, looked puzzled and asked, “Who is that lady who is talking down to the Vice-President?” When her contempt for Vice President Pence and his office is so obvious a self-involved teen age boy can pick up on it, it is excessive.

    henrybowman in reply to Close The Fed. | October 8, 2020 at 4:44 pm

    2% of the primary votes. It’s a good thing the DNC found a clever way to shoehorn their own choice into the White House regardless of what their “members” wanted.

Hillary clinton tried that giggle crap, and looked as dumb as harris when she did it.

    Hillary was a very strong candidate. Harris is a very weak one who probably won’t hold her Senate seat in 2022. She was only elected in the first place because of very weak opposition in 2016.

    The only things Harris and Hillary have in common are sex/gender and having law degrees. Other than that, it’s like equating the bottom of the class to the top.

    Trump pulverized a strong Republican field but the general election was close. Hillary was a very strong candidate, far stronger than Mondale, McGovern, Kerry and some other Dem nominees. Don’t underestimate what Trump did in 2016 by beating her, it was historic.

“VP Pence, I’m speaking”

“Maybe, but you’re not answering”

Close The Fed | October 7, 2020 at 10:45 pm

I didn’t time the answers, but it seemed Harris got much more time. If so, another indictment of the debate commission.

Also, the entire format is lacking. Be far better to have no moderator and have a real debate, with each side being given 5 or 10 minutes to answer, and 3 or 4 hours rather than 90 minutes. It could be broken up into two nights, with two hours each night.

An advanced civilization needs more time to these issues than 120 seconds. It’s obscene.

    nordic_prince in reply to Close The Fed. | October 7, 2020 at 10:55 pm

    As someone who is accustomed to listening to real, academic, formal debates, these so-called debates drive me nuts. But then again I doubt most people would tune in to watch them, if they were even intellectually capable.

    We’ve devolved quite a bit from the Lincoln-Douglas debates.

    tom_swift in reply to Close The Fed. | October 8, 2020 at 8:15 am

    An advanced civilization needs more time to these issues than 120 seconds.

    These aren’t debates in any real sense, they’re infomercials at best. Basically all they show us is that the candidate is alive and moving and can respond in some elementary fashion to environmental stimuli. And that’s not nothing, even if it isn’t anything much.

Now the American people can be reminded of why they thoroughly rejected her back in December of last year when she was running for President.

Remember the Joe Isuzu ads where he was hooked up to a lie detector and would be zapped when he told a lie? Wish we had one of those hooked up to Kamala tonight. Would have caused a brown out for sure. Sad thing is, dems will believe it. every. single. word. She couldn’t rebut her record as a Prosecutor or AJ in CA, her stand on fracking is going to cost the dems the wacko green vote and as we review what else she said, it’s only going to get worse. Joe Isuzu has met his match.

Harris won’t take the vaccine? Well maybe she can have a rabies one instead.

Round. Heels and kneepads will only get a no talent, so-so looking pol so far. Seems there has never been any there, there.

    Frank Hammond in reply to Romey. | October 8, 2020 at 10:38 am

    Sleeping with Willie Brown and Gavin Newsom got her this far – she will be a Senator from California for life. Fairly good trade off for Kammy.

I bet the MSM wish they hadn’t hyped the VP debate as so important now. CBS was forced to admit Pence was “masterful”. Pence wiped Harris’ clock. And please President Trump, follow the Pence debate model. Let Biden speak his easily refutable nonsense and spike it once it’s your turn.

The debate moderator only asked questions related to Democrat talking points. This was designed to place VP Pence on the defense and Sen. Harris on the offense.

I’d like to see Carlson Tucker moderate one of the debates.

No minds are changed by these things. Both candidates have records. The past tells the future.

If she is the best that Biden could find as a running mate, it is clear he isn’t fit for office

    Donald Trump’s first major decision as a presidential nominee was choosing Pence.

    Biden’s was choosing Kneepads.

    For that matter, Obama’s was choosing someone dumb enough to choose Kneepads.

      There should be no doubt after tonight that had Trump not survived Covid Pence would have competently stepped right in. The only way tonight makes a difference is if Biden looks feeble down the home stretch and the Trump campaign can push against a potential Harris administration. Meanwhile, Trump is still at risk of losing over Covid.

    Close The Fed in reply to Wade Hampton. | October 8, 2020 at 9:09 am

    Wade, she was chosen for her ability to raise money. She is able to tap into a lot of very wealthy people. I’m sure if that’s because she’s in office from California or from some other source of contacts, but basically she’s a rainmaker.

    Further, Biden is the best Democrats could come up with, so it’s equally clear no Democrat is fit to be president.

harris was evasive, smug, arrogant, literally shaky at times. Absolute terrible performance all the way around. VP Mike Pence very even, on point regarding the Trump administration/agenda, outclassed harris in every area IMO.

The covid question that was posed was tantamount to asking “What is the better flavor, vanilla or chocolate.”

I said the day biden picked her it was a disaster of a pick, all baggage, no battleground/swing state influence. And California MIGHT actually be in play.

Pence closed the night strong as well, her record of locking up minorities was put on full display. Add that to the Biden crime bill, how do they keep the minority vote from walking away, more likely, won’t turn out.
then again, little wonder why they are all in on mail in ballot harvesting

OT: In China transmission of the VP debate was cut by Communist government when Pence talked about China.

Should the Communists seize power here in November we can look forward to similar well-timed “transmission failures”, if not outright government censorship.

In balance she does nothing for the ticket, and is not a good decision maker. She not very truthful or likeable either. She would govern like Obama.

Man, I want a full Jerry Springer. Let the Karen’s cry.

She whined don’t lecture me which looked pretty stupid since fly’s are not even scared of Pence.

I sure hope he is not our 2024 candidate. I would have flipped the Lincoln thing on her so fast her head would have popped off.

Lincoln freed the slaves, her party has kept blacks enslaved since the inception of this country up to and including creating financial dependence that are central to the 1000’s of kids killed in inner cities “Run by Democrats” Talk about a black issue. Lets make our cities safe! Especially the democrat ones.

I was worried about Pence because he always seems so tight lipped but he walked away from this a clear winner.

It’s so bad that the left has to talk about the fly that landed on his head.

    For us Trump supporters, this was a blowout. But for the Dems, they may have accomplished the very minimum of what they were aiming for. They weren’t planning on winning the debate but to position Harris for the election and then for when Biden dies or has to be removed. Short term, she is a woman representing the latest best hope for a woman president and two, she’s an idiot who must not be Biden’s replacement when the inevitable happens. Harris as POTUS would be a catastrophe for the Dems and they know but IMHO, they are determined to install an easily removable idiot for later removable.

    All of her comments and answers were idiotic and easily destroyed by Pence so she relied on the knee-jerk “mansplaining” as her all-purpose shield just as all liberal women do to mask their shortcomings. Women MUST vote for her! She is a woman and look at how Pence is treating her! A female idiot is THE perfect companion piece for a senile and corrupt POTUS candidate.

    When the time comes, you can bet that Harris won’t be the replacement the Bernies are planning. Everyone already knows she is an idiot. Even the women who will vote for her. But she WILL fight an ugly fight against the Bernies so she needs to be declawed right now. That is, IMHO, what happened last night.

      artichoke in reply to Pasadena Phil. | October 10, 2020 at 7:26 pm

      Don’t want to jinx anything, but I think she fell well short of the bar. She didn’t look like a plausible POTUS.

      She is amazingly weak on facts. She wanted a fight with the white guy to her left. She didn’t get it, instead he exposed her faults and let her ramble.

The fly came in second, after Pence.

Pence had a much better grasp of the issues, is a much better communicator, a much more likeable persona. The differences between the two could not have been easier to see.
Harris might get away with the smugness in a crowd of people with nearly identical ideology but not up against someone from another party. She was just an affirmative action pick to check off a few boxes.

Comanche Voter | October 8, 2020 at 12:49 am

Artichoke at 11:26. There are a couple of things that Hillary and Harris have in common besides their gender. Both graduated from law school, although when one compares their alma maters, Yale Law School where Hilary graduated is several cuts above Hastings College of Law in San Francisco where Harris graduated.

Well each of these two ladies went off to take the bar exam to be admitted to the practice of law. And both of them flunkted he bar exam their first time around. Now Hillary’s failure was the more spectacular—tippy top ranked law school—and the D. C. Bar exam where it’s generally thought that if your breath can fog a mirror, you’ll pass the exam. Well Hillary didn’t pass.

Out in California where Hastings is a good but not great law school (there are at least four others in California which have a much better reputation and are natinally ranked) Harris’s legal alma mater is second rate compared to Yale. Harris blew the California Bar Exam on her first try. The pass rate for Hasting’s grads is usually about 80%—the pass rate for the better schools runs from the high 80s into the mid 90s for first time test takers.

But if at first you don’t succeed—Harris took the bar exam the second time, got a job in the Oakland District Attorneys office, blew a politician 30 years older than her–and was on her way.

    nacnud62 in reply to Comanche Voter. | October 8, 2020 at 4:38 am

    The California bar exam isn’t the only thing that Kneepads Harris blew

    Hillary also failed the bar exam — the Washington, D.C. exam — which is considered the easiest of the bar exams to take.

    She was so embarrassed that she kept it a secret from her closest friends for over twenty years.

    Comments in reply to Comanche Voter. | October 8, 2020 at 9:48 am

    The contrast between Hillary and Kamala is more complex. Hillary did not tell her friends that she failed the D.C. bar. She admitted when she was running for the Senate that she failed the bar. That’s the reason she moved to Arkansas. Hills and Bill both took the Ark. bar and passed. It appears that Hills did not study for the D.C. bar and failed. She was working on the Watergate committee and needed the D.C. registration. Since she was not a D.C. attorney, she basically was working as a law clerk. Yale had a “pass/fail” grading system when Hills was a student. Hills took a lot of time off to campaign for McGovern. The quality of her law school performance really cannot be measured by the “pass/fail” grading. Without Bill Clinton, no one would have heard of Hillary Diane Rodham.

Harris has the intellect of a gnat and Biden is senile but they’ll still take at least 49% of the vote. Constitutional government is on its death bed.

She’s so condescending.
“I’m talking. I’m talking.”

I wanted to punch her — but I was raised to be kind to mean people,

Barry Soetoro | October 8, 2020 at 6:33 am

What do we expect from a skanky Affirmative Action lawyer and politician?

MaggotAtBroadAndWall | October 8, 2020 at 7:04 am

Debates don’t matter. What matters is Democrats want to destroy the current economic system and governing apparatus.

In terms of the economy, they want to ban fracking; ban fossil fuels; ban gasoline powered cars; ban private health insurance; ban and confiscate guns they don’t like; ban speech they don’t like; ban straws; ban; ban; ban.

It will literally destroy the livelihood of millions of people working in those and many peripheral industries. For no gain. The climate is not going to go into some magical, idealized state because we ban fossil fuels and force millions of people to lose their jobs. Banning guns isn’t going to cause people to not want to hurt others. Banning speech isn’t going to change what people think and feel in their heart.

In terms of changing the governing system: they want to ban the electoral college; pack SCOTUS with far left activists; end the legislative filibuster; make Puerto Rico and DC states.

It’s a truly radical, totalitarian, oppressive vision. And half the country supports it. I’m not a marketer or campaigner, but I’ve made some headway convincing extended family not to vote for this. Everyone needs to do what they can to educate their social circle what Democrats REALLY plan to do. They’re not getting it if they watch NBC Nightly News.

I’m praying the polls are wrong again. However, even if Trump pulls another win, it looks like every election from now on will be “the most important ever” because academia and the media have done an outstanding job radicalizing the electorate.

    “It’s a truly radical, totalitarian, oppressive vision. And half the country supports it. ”

    Royalty was like dandelions. No matter how many heads you chopped off, the roots were still there underground, waiting to spring up again… It was as if even the most intelligent person had this little blank spot in their heads where someone had written, “Kings. What a good idea.” Whoever had created humanity had left in a major design flaw. It was its tendency to bend at the knees.

    S’s need M’s. Balance of nature demands it.

2smartforlibs | October 8, 2020 at 7:24 am

Her Clinton Cackle is her tell.

Professor, the party chose Harris because she is mentally six miles wide and a half inch thick and she can be totally controlled by the powers behind the throne. Just give her a title and she will be happy.

In some debate someone need to remind the audience of Obama’s admonition to “never under estimate Joe’s ability to eff things up!”

MattLauersNob | October 8, 2020 at 8:47 am

Unfortunately, the Dims don’t care that their real Prez candidate is a lefty air head.

Get out and vote, patriots. In person if you want to be sure your vote will be counted.

If Biden is elected, Harris will shortly become the President. Harris’s husband, Douglas Emhoff, will be pulling all the strings. Not something to look forward to.

BTW, Harris’ little Lincoln story was not accurate. He did not hold off naming a Supreme Court Chief Justice in 1864 to replace the deceased Taney because “he wanted the people to vote first.” There is ZERO evidence he ever said anything like that. The fact was that the Senate was not in session and would not return until December, so there was no point in naming somebody (Chase) until after the November election. Which is what Lincoln did.

    Joe-dallas in reply to Diplomad. | October 8, 2020 at 11:04 am

    “The fact was that the Senate was not in session and would not return until December, so there was no point in naming somebody (Chase) until after the November election. ”

    Good point

    As someone else said – “Black Liars Matter”

    artichoke in reply to Diplomad. | October 10, 2020 at 9:04 pm

    and Lincoln knew he would be reelected. He had just won the Civil War, and the South would not be permitted to vote.

Well, I guess I’m in the minority thinking Kamala’s performance was amazing.

Coming off as more unlikable than Hillary is no mean feat!

Another Voice | October 8, 2020 at 1:00 pm

And yet 4 years later we see the Democrats can do better. She really excels in all areas which Hillary was rated on in 2016 except for the one drawing on her ethnic race; That has to be handed off to the American Indian who wanted to be President.

    artichoke in reply to Another Voice. | October 10, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    Harris performed far worse than Hillary. Hillary was a very clever, tough opponent. Trump crushed a star-studded Republican field to get the nomination, but still he could barely beat Hillary. Hillary was clever and sharp.

    Compare Hillary’s cool performance when grilled for hours over her response in Benghazi, with Harris’ totally out of bounds behavior in attack Brett Kavanaugh with no evidence — she even set perjury traps for him which he deftly avoided. Harris is a real piece of work.

“On the issue of trade policy, she compared Trump to the Wizard of Oz.”

Which is pretty funny to those of us fond of the conceit that Wizard was a crypto commentary on the “free silver” economic campaign… what with the yellow bricks, the green spectacles, the silver slippers (changed to ruby only in the movie), etc.

I listened to, but did not watch, the VP debate, so I did not see any facial expressions. I thought Harris did very well because Pence had no real answers to counter her charge that the Trump Admin totally failed in its coronavirus response. Since that is the only issue in this election for the ultimate deciders in battleground states – suburban swing voters and elderly shut-ins, none of the discussion about court packing, etc… matters in the slightest.

    artichoke in reply to The_Mew_Cat. | October 10, 2020 at 8:58 pm

    The facial expressions were totally unprofessional. It’s not a race thing. I’ve seen plenty of black people who can have heated arguments without getting angry face.

    What would be a suitable answer for the Coronavirus response — proof that a different strategy would have saved more lives? We can’t rerun the experiment and certainly don’t want to. So that’s a criticism that can be made of any executive in charge of such a response. Most people understand that.

    State governments killed off many people in nursing homes, not Trump. Trump didn’t send infected people into nursing homes. Instead he built many beds in NY which had the worst crisis, which Gov. Cuomo didn’t use, instead preferring to send infected people nursing homes.

    And any effort to say that the demonstrations / riots in NYC would spread the virus were called “racism” by the NY state health director!