Philly Burns: Rioting and Looting After Police Shooting of Man Armed With Knife
A female officer’s leg broke after rioters hit her with a car.
Philadelphia erupted in violence on Monday night after the police shot a black man allegedly holding a knife.
The rioters injured at least 30 police officers.
The Police Incident
The police received a call about a man, 27-year-old Walter Wallace Jr., with a deadly weapon on Monday afternoon:
“Responding officers witnessed a male on the block. Immediately they noticed he had a knife in his possession and he was brandishing it, and waiving it erratically,” said Philadelphia Police Sgt. Eric Gripp.
On that West Philly block, near 61st and Locust video shows that man raising his arm as he approaches police.
Less than a second later, both officers open fire.
“Upon being struck the male immediately dropped the knife and was scooped up by one of the discharging officers who took him into his police car, drove him over to Presbyterian Hospital where unfortunately he succumbed to his injuries,” Sgt. Gripp said.
“I don’t know what his demeanor was. I do know something had to be going on that wasn’t normal,” witness Maurice Holoway said.
Holoway says he and others in the neighborhood plead with the man, identified as Walter Wallace Jr. to drop the knife but that didn’t happen.
Riots
Rioters and demonstrators showed up only a few hours after the shooting, which continued into the night. Rioters injured at least 30 officers:
Police say 30 officers were injured, they include a 56-year-old female officer who was hit by a car at 52nd and Walnut Streets. Police say she suffered a broken leg.
Police say all of the officers injured are in stable condition. Other than the officer with a broken leg, they’ve all been treated and released from the hospital. Police say that most of the officers who were injured were hit with rocks, bricks, and other projectiles.
Also, at 52nd and Market Streets, a police SUV was set on fire.
Rioters also looted and damaged stores and restaurants.
Police arrested 30 people overnight.
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Nothing says “Let’s wait to see all the facts” like “spontaneous” rioting and looting.
Have to wonder if this wasn’t a set-up, given how quickly the riots sprung up.
It was a setup.
The Democrat party has been setting it up all year.
CNN Reporting:
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What time is it? Its time to rob a liquor store! Savages.
How much of the illegal money is funding these riots?
U.S. Colleges Hid More Than $6.5 Billion in Foreign Funding, Education Department Finds
https://freebeacon.com/latest-news/u-s-colleges-hid-more-than-6-5-billion-in-foreign-funding/
“unfortunately he succumbed to his injuries,”
I say his passing was good, one less savage. Thirty officers injured, there should have been at least 30 additional deaths.
Christmas is coming.
Invest in roll down steel security doors. This is now the SOP of the leftist mobs.
In Portland one can judge the safety of a neighborhood by the degree to which the local Fred Meyer store secures its electronics. When I moved to PDX 24 years ago the local store had the electronics in a front corner with items visible from the street behind large windows. That department is now located on the second floor in the back corner as far from the escalators as possible, to give loss prevention more time to do intercepts. Similarly, all items of interest to the homeless are now heavily secured, such as USB batteries and nearly all camping gear. The clothing area of one store is now completely closed off from the rest of the behind a glass wall with a very narrow entry and egress zone. It will only get worse as the $250M/yr homeless assistance bond will likely double their numbers in the next year. Liberals simply cannot learn.
Makes total sense. Plywood just burns.
I’m impressed—at least someone in Da Community knows the secret of fire.
So maybe don’t brandish a knife around police officers? Just a thought.
Early Christmas shopping.
Only 60 shoplifting days til Christmas.
/sorry for the downtick, it was not intentional.
Well there goes in person voting in Philly.
The “Protesters,” who were throwing items (bricks, stones) that can kill and/or seriously harm someone. The police would have been justified to defend themselves by using deadly force.
That was true all summerlong, yet not one cop used lawful lethal force to protect himself or others.
If they had, if it had become generally known that these were the rules of engagement, there would have a been a lot fewer rioters and a lot more peaceful protesters. They riot because they know there are no serious consequences.
“a whiff of grapeshot”?
Imagine that, plantation members rioting on cue for a criminal being shot… but this is peaceful protesting. At least “mostly” peaceful.
This is how revolutions are given a start. We know what their end goal is.
Is this a preview of the day after Trump is elected ?
You will see this next week no matter who wins.
As demonstrated by many examples of major sports events, “unruly mobs” appear, win, lose or draw.
Yes. They will riot either in protest or in celebration. The difference is that if Biden wins the police may as well quit and let them do whatever they like.
They will loot, from what I have seen, starting with the sixties riots, it is all about the loot.
Rioters should each receive free lead, this is utter BS.
Live ammo will ne passed out.
Cancel all the WIC cards.
Don’t refill the EBT or WIC cards.
Don’t refill the welfare phones.
Set a time limit on Section 8 or “public housing”.
better to end Section 8, all these housing efforts do is turn decent neighborhoods into new ghettos. The problem has never been about buildings, it is about people of poor character.
You guys think we will have a winner next week?
Hold on till next week
This is the new means of Democrat voter suppression. Take an unfortunate incident, in this case an armed man with probable mental issues who is shot by police while threatening people, and use it to justify civil unrest, just ahead of a major federal election. And, do so in a former Democrat enclave which seems to be swinging to the Republican candidate. Scare people into staying home and not voting or destroy the polling places.
If they’re doing this to suppress the vote I expect it’s going to backfire on them, bigly. Philadelphia itself will never vote Republican. Now, the rest of Pennsylvania, that’s another story. And I expect the people in the suburbs and smaller cities and rural areas in Pennsylvania are seeing what’s going on in Philly and thinking they don’t want anything to do with that.
Philly typically votes 110 percent Democrat.
Slackers
Early voting trends and election polls suggest that 89% Hillary support in 2016 has dropped to 76% Biden support in 2020. If this trend holds, there is no way Biden wins Pennsylvania.
And you wonder why it’s a dump. A city that banned bulletproof glass because of a image issue.
Philadelphia Reaches Most Homicides Since 2007 With Six Murders Monday……
The idea is to suppress the election day walk-in vote. That is very difficult to control the results of. However, it is relatively easy to control mail-in balloting especially if signature matches are no longer required. The early voting was largely Democrat and who knows where mail-in votes will come from or how well they will be accurately vetted and counted.
I figured that the Philly suburbs were heading red when they had the riots in Lancaster last summer. All of a sudden it was no longer a downtown phenomenon.
On another note, I was surprised that San Bernadino did not erupt a few days ago after an officer shot a guy he was struggling with who clearly pulled a gun from his pants. It was clearly a clean shoot and thankfully recorded pretty well on a cell phone by a nearby person as the officers own bodycam went video dead during the struggle but recorded another 10 seconds of struggle before pop pop pop pop.
https://abc7.com/san-bernardino-police-shooting-king-tut-liquor-2020/7268463/
There are at least two nearly identical 911 call reports that I have seen, and pulling up the shorts is a clear sign that a gun is weighing them down. It is becoming more obvious that neither these perps nor their supporters are fixable.
Yeah, I’m sure they got enough people together to riot HOURS after the incident happened. Nothing suspicious about that at all and just happens to be the day after confirming a new Supreme court justice. This is all theatrics played out at the expense of police officers doing their jobs.
Any liberal cops who used to back their party’s nonsense should realize their own role in crippling the one party trying to protect them and the rule of law.
A female officer’s leg broke after rioters hit her with a car.
Passive voice, used in a subhead. Tsk, tsk. -5 points
Rioters ran over a female officer with a car, breaking her leg
Great Maker. Just stop with all this nonsense. Lock and load live ammo, give them permission to use it, and then deal with these terrorists the way they should be dealt with. That is, in a manner that will immediately preclude their committing further crime. And to hell with the howls of outrage from the hysterical, lunatic left. End of Problem.
But big blue cities are run by big blue mayors. That is why the ammo and the permission will never be forthcoming.
Looks like another “suicide by cop”. I’m betting he wanted to be another famous thug shot by police and have riots named after him.
If you look at the pictures, there were 100’s of cops. Only 20 injured? Mostly peaceful.
None should have been injuried.
Now we clearly see a vehicle used as a potentially deadly weapon.
Just start using live ammo.
People forget that D-Day was also mostly peaceful with only 10-11,000 allied casualties out of 156,000 troops landed.
It would seem that in the event of a riot, it would be the duty of every armed citizen to immediately open fire on all rioters, arsonists, and throwers of objects (other than feathers). Intersecting fields of aimed rifle fire should be effective, leaving only coups de grace and hosing off the blood into storm drains.
I wonder how British cops handle crazy people with knives? A person living in the United States is approximately 100 times as likely to be killed by the police as a person living in Britain. Britain has a lot less violent crime than we do. Obviously that effects how the police act. Still it seems like it would be worth studying how police in other countries deal with this kind of thing.
They wear stab-proof vests instead of bullet-proof. And crime has soared in the last 40 years or so. Many people illegally go around with knives for self-defence.
I don’t think that’s right. Since the mid-1990s crime has dropped throughout the developed world because modern technology makes it really hard to get away with anything.
Not in the UK it hasn’t. As of the last time I was in London (2004), its crime rate was worse than NY’s.
Be that as it may, London isn’t Britain and New York isn’t the United States. Remember back in 2004 New York was a very safe city, these days, not so much.
Historically England has had relatively low violent crime although records show that during Shakespearian time the murder rate was higher than during the last century. England was as gun nuts as USA until turn of 1900’s. Bobbies often carried on their own. With the rise of Irish issues and Bolshevism, the nation clamped down on gun ownership and have gone Leftist crazy ever since. England in past was a more homogenous population. Not anymore and now more “armed police”. May I suggest you move to South Africa and see how they handle crime?
Your traditional “Bobby” is usually unarmed. But the cops in the cars – they have full auto. It’s been a year since I was last in London – have things changed?
I was speaking about the past … late 1800’s. That was prior to the “troubles” of the early 1900’s. Note tense… “carried” and not “carry”. Wimbledon was a target range similar to Bisley. There were parlor guns for impromptu home entertainment and plenty of rook guns.
AS for nowadays… firearms are increasingly (intentionally) more expensive to obtain and use. Part of the increased cost over years was to create a social wealth conflict issue where the “poor” would be roused in anger over rich toys.
By the way…. strip the USA of the top 10 counties for crime and the USA gun violence rate plummets to lower EU levels. It isn’t the “country” so much as “locales” that cause the problems.
According to wikipedia the London Metropolitan Police has over 32,000 sworn officers, but only 2,394 of them are authorized to carry firearms. So under 10%. Obviously, that wouldn’t fly in this country because the police are up against a lot more bad guys with guns. On the other hand I’d like to know more about how British cops respond to crazy people with knives. Would a firearms officer be dispatched to handle that kind of situation?
Example is the murder of Lee Rigby, British military. Two Muslims first ran him down with a car, then stabbed and hacked him to death. It took 9 minutes for the unarmed police to show up and 5 minutes after that for the armed police. In the initial nine minutes, common folk especially one woman berated the killers who waited for the armed police to show up so they could rush them and go to paradise.
Then there is the story of unarmed cops finding a person face down in about 2 feet of water near shoreline. They were not trained for “water rescue” and forbidden to act so they called for backup and set up a perimeter. When all was set.. about 45 minutes later the appropriately trained individuals waded in and dragged the decidedly dead body to land. Protocol you know. Mark Steyn has a series of such stories about England’s wanker coppers.
It’s not hard to imagine that second incident happening in the United States. Obviously, British law enforcement has it’s fair share of incompetence and bureaucratic disfunction. On the other hand British cops seem to be able to keep the peace with far more sparing use of lethal force than there American counterparts. Don’t you think it’s worth understanding why that’s the case?
Most of human history has been a lot more violent than the first 20 years of the 21st century. In the developed world today suicide is a more common occurrence than homicide. Historically, that has not been the case. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t look for ways to have even less violence, does it?
My understanding is that the Peelers were supposed to be unarmed, and if one needed a gun he was to borrow one from a passerby. In other words they were to be an unarmed force surrounded by an armed populace.
Actually, the violent crime rate in the UK is over twice as high as it is in the US, per capita. Most statistical evaluations of violent crime are based almost solely upon the reported incidences of rape and homicide. They neglect assault, battery, robbery and lesser violent crimes. When all of these are added, the number of violent crime, per capita, is significantly higher in the UK, than it is in the US.
And that’s the incidents reported. One way to “lower” the crime rate of your precinct is to just not report the crime. That’s especially tempting if “well-performing” precincts with low crime rates get preferential funding.
How???
This is how..
Police shoot London killer dead, call stabbings a terrorist attack.
I think Dennis is a graduate of U.PBS
Well, I’m in favor of studying ways to make police better.
I think we have given you some examples of how NOT to improve policing.
“Britain has a lot less violent crime than we do.”
That’s the “narrative,” but it’s absolutely false. England/Wales violent crime rate is roughly FIVE TIMES ours.
Did you read the blurb at the top of the chart you posted a link to?
It’s Philly so a Democrat stronghold. Hopefully the rest of the state is paying attention and haven’t voted yet. I wonder if this will rapidly spread to other key battleground states now that Biden can’t go a day without a gaffe.
I’ve got to say, the Democrats are being so accommodating, destroying so many of their own strongholds in advance of election day.
This mostly peaceful interlude was brought to you by the political party that believes all of America should share in “brotherly love”.
The DNC has sent extra security and fire trucks to protect all the mail in ballots from burning
Including protection for the workers who will produce the “gap ballots?”
Keep in mind that Philly’s current police chief, Danielle Outlaw, a name not a slogan, was Ted Wheeler’s diversity hire in Portland. I bet DiBlasio has his eyes or her as the failure upwards breaks the sound barrier.
We need a new chapter in “The Peter Principle” to explain this stuff.
To explain Kamala, we’d need “The Portal Principle.”
Landsakes alive. Where do all those Trump-supporting white supremacist terrorists find the time?
Aggravated assault on a cop and nobody gets arrested?
Another day in a Blue city. Another warm up for when President Trump is re-elected. Unarmed police versus armed rioters accomplishes nothing. Live fire by the police would have ended this quickly.
Live fire would have gotten those police fired and charged by the DA. Same thing for tear gas (it would have been called a chemical weapon)
In this case, a generous use of paintballs with a 50/50 mix of pepperballs and UV marker would have been appropriate. And by generous, I mean turn the regulators on the gas to full, and focus fire on whatever idiot is throwing things. About 4-5 officers unloading on Bob the Thug would help identification if/when things turn to arrests. “So we arrested this crying guy who looks like he has chicken pox, and he glows bright in UV light. Let’s compare him to the video of the evening’s entertainment and see just how many charges of assault he gets.”
You are an Idiot; Trump has nothing to do with this bullshit; Riots are happening in Democrat run shitholes and are using riots to coerce people to vote for Biden or they won’t stop!
Clearly you misunderstand the post. When Trump is re-elected, the Usual Suspects will be redoubling the violence.
Some segments of society have a lot of trouble obeying simple commands.
My area and this is most I heard so far. Emperor Wolf wasn’t about to call in troops to scare off voters. And talk show this morning thought this wasn’t goingbto gain traction as looting and rioting isn’t in the Democrat’s game plan right now.
I saw a video from Philly where the rioters were actually chasing the police down the street. I think the most effective non lethal response to that mass of violent rioters would be water cannons. It would break up the crowds, knock many off there feet and in colder weather would be an incentive to go home and get warm and dry. Also I understand dye can be added which helps the police to later identify the criminals.
One of the big problems faced by US police forces, when dealing with riots, is that they no longer actively train for riots and civil unrest and general crowd control. Back in the 1970s and early 1980s, police departments actually trained for such occurrences. Whole manuals of tactics, including deployment procedures, tactical formations and maneuver, over-watch and sally techniques, intelligence techniques [both surveillance and infiltration] and acquisition and use of protective gear. Today, PDs throw a group of people on the street, with a mish-mash of equipment, who have never been trained or trained together in crowd control. It is a recipe for disaster.
To make it worse, the current strategy for handing disturbances is to ignore them and allow the participants to run amok. In the past, the strategy was that the public owned the streets and the police made sure that the public could access their streets. Want to march and block traffic? Get a permit. If granted, the police would provide traffic and crowd control so that the event could be handled safely. Show up with torches and pitchforks and you would end up head-to-head with a trained troop of well equipped riot police, who would reclaim the streets for the public. And, the results have been predictable. And, given the lack of training engaged in by LEAs, it may be too late for effective riot measures to be initiated.
Or they can just import Flint water.
Start shooting the rioters and looters and this shit will stop!
“Philadelphia erupted in violence on Monday night after the police shot a black man allegedly holding a knife.”
If you say the black man was ALLEGEDLY holding a knife then shouldn’t you say the police ALLEGEDLY shot him?
Any careful and intellectually honest writer of those words would, in enough time, catch the bias, illogic, and imbalance of the two parts and correct the sentence in the way your point out.
Too bad (s)he was so apathetic and dishonest, suggesting the role of a propagandist at work, rather than a professional — ie, observant, fair, and thoughtful — journalist.
Re how other countries deal with their trash–an excellent model would be the French riot police.
I think it’s time to bring the physical violence to the rioters. Police shouldn’t have to put up with this nonsense.