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Will Joe Biden Debate Donald Trump? (Reader Poll)

Will Joe Biden Debate Donald Trump? (Reader Poll)

Team Biden undoubtedly is polling and focus-grouping whether the damage from bailing out outweighs the potential damage from Biden appearing disoriented and diminished during three 90-minute debates.

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The Great Debate is whether Joe Biden will debate Donald Trump in the series of three debates currently suggested.

While insisting that Biden “looks forward” to debating, you can see the seeds of an excuse being planted, centered around Trump allegedly abusing the debate process AND the coronavirus making travel and appearances risky to health.

I laid out the Democrat concerns in Dems fear Biden would blow it all by debating Trump.

It’s all but certain that Team Biden or their consultants are feverishly polling and focus grouping how much damage will be done to Biden if he either backs out, or imposes conditions to which he knows Trump would not agree (e.g., wearing of masks if the debate is in-person, or doing the debate remotely via video link). That damage will be weighed against the potential damage from Biden appearing disoriented and diminished during three 90-minute debates.

Joe Biden did okay in the primary debates because he was limited to very short segments, with so many other people on the stage to take up time. But 90 minutes is a really long time. Even sympathetic questioners can’t stop Trump from attacking Biden directly.

So, will Biden debate Trump?

POLL OPEN UNTIL MIDNIGHT (PACIFIC TIME) ON FRIDAY NIGHT, AUGUST 7


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My2centshere | August 5, 2020 at 9:18 pm

Absolutely not.

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Three 90-second debates is Biden’s limit

    PRNeoCon in reply to Rab. | August 6, 2020 at 2:46 am

    You must be kidding. The only way the debate works is if the moderators get to rearrange and/or interpret the words Biden says. For example…. “ you know we have to you know do that thing.”

    Moderator 1 how eloquent of me Biden to Val for defunding the police but in a way that makes our communities safer.

    Moderator 2 I think he was actually saying that there should be universal health care and a free iPhone for everyone.

    You guys get the picture.

    They will ask trump what the third dynasty of China was and when Trump says zhou dynasty they will either say he pronounced it wrong or that it was really the Shang dynasty because there was some obscure dynasty before the xia dynasty.

Since he won’t be the nominee, no.

    Tom Servo in reply to technerd. | August 6, 2020 at 8:24 am

    Bongino, and others, say that the biggest problem isn’t just that he’s suffering from advanced dementia, but that the condition is accelerating and he is now in much worse mental shape than he was just 6 months ago. My guess is that they’ll do everything they can to keep him as the (well hidden) nominee, but that even if he won, he would never be President.

    and that’s why his VP pick is so important, especially to the dems. That is who they’re actually going to be running for President, and everyone knows it.

      They are delaying the VP pick because now they are considering a replacement for the top of the ticket.

      I have come to the conclusion the Biden campaign is karmic payback for what the Democrats have done to Trump and his family for the past 4 years.

        technerd in reply to Leslie Eastman. | August 7, 2020 at 7:10 am

        Karma for the Democrats would be Obama convicted of weaponizing the intelligence community and being deported to Kenya as punishment.

    My very thought.

Ah, c’mon man!

I just love it when Joe goes into his laughing hyena character.

Bye-den – Going the Distance,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvQkl7qa6RQ

Going all 15 rounds,

“Yo, Jill”

Jill Biden should be prosecuted for elder abuse.

What low character.

LeftWingLock | August 5, 2020 at 9:42 pm

IMO, the probability of having any Biden – Trump debates is zero. With no debates, Biden (with 99% MSM support) has a chance to win. With even a single debate, the probability of Biden winning gets very close to zero.

Colonel Travis | August 5, 2020 at 9:52 pm

There is a greater than zero chance that Biden thinks he’s already debated Trump.

What will be will be.

Off topic: Read Jason Whitlock’s latest at Outkick (if you haven’t already), “Leaked Video Exposes George Floyd’s Death As Tragedy And Race Hoax Used To Divide Us.”

You will be glad you did.

https://www.outkick.com/george-floyd-bodycam-footage-shows-it-wasnt-about-race-will-nbactivists-actually-admit-that/#comments-section

    Lucifer Morningstar in reply to oldschooltwentysix. | August 6, 2020 at 9:05 am

    Oh please, everyone with half a brain knows that liberal democrats fabricated that whole Floyd nonsense so that they could use it as their Reichstag fire and justify the brownshirt behavior and actions of both the BLM movement and antifa. I’m just surprised the body cam video footage still exists. I would have thought that it would have all been quietly disappeared by now.

The format Biden will want would not be considered a debate.

Sundown Joe’s team will demand pre-recorded answers to written questions. To avoid sound bytes of course rather than to try to protect ol’ puddin head

    Lucifer Morningstar in reply to trubtastic. | August 6, 2020 at 9:25 am

    That won’t even work. Not for Joe. His mental deterioration is at the point that he cannot even read off a script right in front of him without getting frustrated and confused and going off on a wild, lunatic tangent. The chances he could coherently read a teleprompter during a live event (even if it’s a virtual event on Zoom) is a non-starter. It just isn’t in the cards.

Grrr8 American | August 5, 2020 at 10:36 pm

Zoom / WebEx. My guess is that they’ll only agree to debate on his terms — not on a stage, but separate facilities. One in which JB can be alone with his handlers, and read from a teleprompter as others type in his responses (the teleprompter being unseen by the TV cameras, of course).

Trump should just call a press conference and debate an empty chair.

    The Friendly Grizzly in reply to dmi60ex. | August 6, 2020 at 8:30 am

    Clint Eastwood has that idea perfected…

    BierceAmbrose in reply to dmi60ex. | August 6, 2020 at 2:05 pm

    I’ve been mulling that same “debate that’s not there” idea. A couple refinements:

    – Get the idea of a “debate” event out in the zeitgeist. Something like the dates of the prior presidential election debates … just start talking like of course there’s gonna be one then.

    – Have fill-ins for the empty chair (and the panel.)
    — Pull questions from the headlines. On the topic of Syria…
    — Use transcripts from his prior statements, as his answers. (Bonus if you can “cast” the stand-ins. Get Dean Cain to play “Handsy” Biden; Kristy Swanson one of the “Journalists” maybe Megyn Kelly.)

I could swear I read something Monday (?) about 2 of the 3 debate sites considering pulling out over Covid concerns. If that’s how it goes down, it gives Biden cover. With the conventions scaled down and potential even they might be cancelled – why not the debates?

Just read today that Biden will NOT be going to WI to accept the nomination. https://www.redstate.com/tladuke/2020/08/05/joe-biden-will-skip-the-democratic-convention-in-milwaukee-and-stay-in-his-basement/ Redstate cites an article at CNN.

    Edward in reply to MrE. | August 6, 2020 at 10:29 am

    That is certainly the intention. Locations already set up pull out in order to give Quid Pro Joe the excuse for not debating. It’s laughable that they claim to be unable to think of any way to set up the debate so as to meet the CDC guidelines they incessantly lecture us about. But in a year of grasping at straws, that’s the best they can do until they come up with what they think is a better excuse.

    The_Mew_Cat in reply to MrE. | August 10, 2020 at 8:42 am

    That is absurd of course. There is no need for a live audience. The whole thing just requires a TV studio. But they might make the absurd claim that Joe can’t travel safely, and Gov. Whitmer or Susan Rice must therefore debate in his place.

Is he delusional enough to think he can pull off a debate? And are his puppet masters cruel enough to let him try?

Come on, Professor!

Are you a junkie or something?

I still think the question is- will Biden be the nominee? There’s just under 2 weeks for the Democrat bigwigs to decide on who should replace him at the convention.

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to gospace. | August 6, 2020 at 12:39 am

    Methinks DEMS have known for months…..Oprah or Barrack’s big toe or some such…..

    Milhouse in reply to gospace. | August 6, 2020 at 1:14 am

    He will not be replaced before the convention. The DNC needs him to stick in there, by any means necessary, until the convention is safely over. His function is to keep Sanders out.

If there is a “debate”, it will be in the form of separate interviews. The Joseph Goebbels media would carefully edit both candidates’ responses to achieve the desired effect of making Biden look like a genius and Trump like Adolph Hitler II.

    AlexanderYpsilantis in reply to Recovering Lutheran. | August 6, 2020 at 10:51 am

    They would try that, the Trump camp needs to INSIST that any debate be a live event and Town Hall format with give and take. Biden would come apart at the seams.

    Moderator: Senator Biden, some Republicans have suggested that you have amnesia. How would you respond to that?

    Biden: That is totally absurd. I don’t have …….What was the question again?

The question is not will he, but can he? No he can’t. Biden is not able to debate. His dementia is too far progressed.

    DaveGinOly in reply to UserP. | August 6, 2020 at 6:15 pm

    That’s the calculation I did to reach my “No” vote. Biden can’t afford to not debate, but he simply can’t do it – as in it’s a literal impossibility because he’s incapable/incapacitated. The Dems don’t have a choice, they MUST avoid debates.

After that recent interview where he got offended being asked about a cognitive test and it became obvious he had forgotten that he had taken it in the past but refused to release the results AND then went a step further and asked the reporter if he was a cocaine junkie I have to change my answer to no. No he won’t debate Trump.

There are two paths at this point. Path one the Democrats have the convention and replace him at the convention or just shortly after it. Most likely after in an attempt to avoid Bernie Sanders trying something.

Path two they just straight up refuse to debate Trump. I think this would be a disaster for Biden though. The polls show that a majority of people in this country, right and left, believe that Biden is suffering from dementia. A refusal to debate along with continued flubs when speaking in public would just cement this belief. I think America would get angry, with the right push from Trumps campaign, that the Democrats would run a man who so obviously can not be President because his mental health is failing.

    Milhouse in reply to TheOldZombie. | August 6, 2020 at 1:17 am

    He didn’t go a step further and asked the reporter if he was a cocaine junkie. He said he was as offended at being asked whether he was mentally competent as Barnett would be at being asked whether he was a junkie. And then proceeded to mangle the very next sentence.

      The Friendly Grizzly in reply to Milhouse. | August 6, 2020 at 8:37 am

      Yes, he mangled it alright, but, if pressed for time, I am sure he can iron things out.

      /II’m being nutty so I can take Joe’s place.

      Christopher B in reply to Milhouse. | August 6, 2020 at 12:30 pm

      You’re totally wrong on this. Look at the transcript of what he said, line by line

      No, I haven’t taken a test.

      Why the hell would I take a test?

      Come on, man.

      That’s like saying you, before you got in(sic) this program, you’re taking a test whether you’re taking cocaine or not.

      What do you think, huh?

      Are you a junkie?

      There is no way you can get from the reference to “you” and “this program” in the bold statement to the “you” in the final question not specifically referring to Barnett without undue reliance on “in” not being either mistranscribed or another of Biden’s verbal miscues.

        Milhouse in reply to Christopher B. | August 6, 2020 at 4:04 pm

        What are you babbling about? You’re making less sense than Biden does on a good day.

        Did I suggest the “you” was not Barnett?! I did not. So you’re just attacking a strawman because you have no argument to make.

        That was Biden’s whole point. He said he was as offended at being asked to prove that he’s not senile as Barnett would be at being asked to prove he’s not a junkie.

No clue. Biden is too slippery for me. I’m still trying to figure out what he meant with that dog-faced pony-soldier business. And, you know, the thing.

zombietimeshare | August 6, 2020 at 3:13 am

Same nonsense, every four years.

“Why Donald Trump might not debate Hillary Clinton”
Aaron Blake | The Washington Post Aug 9, 2016

Oh the Democrat handlers will wish Crazy old Joe didn’t debate President Trump, and try and dream up a thousand reasons why he shouldn’t, but having no debate would be admitting there is a brain problem.

The DEMS will agree to debates only if they are recorded at CNN studios for later release.

If Sleepy Joe goes anywhere near the debates all we will hear is 45 minutes of “awe come on man” and “he’s a rwaaaaacist”.

I also expect the Dems will drug Sleepy Joe up to the eye balls like they did with Hillary.

    DaveGinOly in reply to mailman. | August 6, 2020 at 6:19 pm

    If there were a drug capable of making someone with dementia appear “sharp” even for a few minutes, they’d already be giving it to him before his appearances. Considering how those have been going, either there is no such drug or it doesn’t work very well.

      The_Mew_Cat in reply to DaveGinOly. | August 10, 2020 at 8:39 am

      I think there are Beta-Blockers and other drugs and supplements that help ole Joe, and they goosed him up for his Primary debates. But the drugs wear off quickly, and can’t be given too often because the body builds up resistance.

Really now, what would be the purpose of a “debate”. Everyone has already decided how they’re going to vote: Either FOR Trump or AGAINST Trump.

    bigskydoc in reply to snopercod. | August 6, 2020 at 8:05 am

    Or have decided not to vote at all. IMHO the biggest effect of debates is turning voters into non-voters, not in convincing them to switch sides, or even go from non-voters to choosing a candidate.

“While insisting that Biden “looks forward” to debating,…”

What Biden actually said was, and I quote”: “I forward look to the debates…” Not the same thing.

These weasels are so slippery.

Doubtful. The Democrats know the damage a debate would do to Biden vs the short attention span of their voters. They know the press will ignore the fact that there aren’t any debates and won’t question Biden on it at all, instead attacking Trump at every opportunity.

If Biden debates and shows that he’s senile then the election is OVER. They’ll come up with some excuse and call the debates off, accusing Trump of being the one who is to blame.

Serious question. Early voting starts in September, what happens if he needs to be replaced after voting is started?

    Milhouse in reply to labrat. | August 6, 2020 at 7:44 am

    It doesn’t matter. People will not be voting for a president, they’ll be voting for electors. Those who check the box for Biden will be voting for a slate of loyal Democrats who have promised, if they are chosen as electors, to vote for the Democrat nominee, whoever that is. If Biden drops out the DNC will nominate someone else, and those Dems who are chosen as electors will vote for that person.

    That’s why I’ve been saying that the DNC has until Dec 14 to replace Biden without having to go with his running mate. Once the electors have voted, if anything happens to Biden his running mate automatically takes over, and that may not be someone the DNC wants.

      Tenbor in reply to Milhouse. | August 6, 2020 at 8:43 am

      This is an important point that technically and legally the DNC can replace a victorious Biden before the elector’s vote.

      This would probably throw the country into a full blown civil war.

      Would Trump challenge this bait-and-switch, however lawful?

      Would the American people?

      Far more likely to replace him at the convention, as I think you’ve suggested several times.

        Milhouse in reply to Tenbor. | August 6, 2020 at 4:07 pm

        No. They will not replace him at the convention, because Sanders and his supporters would demand the nomination, and claim he’d earned it and it belongs to him, and if they denied him his people would burn Milawaukee down even harder than it’s already burned.

      Another Voice in reply to Milhouse. | August 6, 2020 at 11:37 am

      Earlier this week, NY Gov. Cuomo won out a challenge and was elected to be NY’s Democratic Party Chair which will head the NY delegation at the Democratic National Convention. Cuomo who has spent a goodly share of his entire 3rd term loading up his war chest for a “supposed” run for a 4th term in NY while simultaneously taking every opportunity to inject himself in to national issues by “Out Trumping, Trump”, making his presents known with his”I’m here to help you” trips outside the state which hastened the hostility with NYC Mayor de Blasio in his effort to seek to be democrat elect candidate and up stage him. In the same period, though Cuomo denies the thought of wanting to be President, his 19 years of positioning himself say otherwise. Perhaps the Dec. 14th opening will be the anointment he has been positioning himself for.

        Milhouse in reply to Another Voice. | August 6, 2020 at 4:08 pm

        Of course he wants to be president. But he never will be. Between his nursing home problem and the fact that he’s a straight white man, his chances are zero.

      Ken in Camarillo in reply to Milhouse. | August 6, 2020 at 1:46 pm

      The Democrats cannot replace Biden with a new candidate that they choose because that would open the door for Bernie to make a claim based on his second place finish in delegates. They would want to use succession (claiming that they do not have discretion to choose) in order to block Bernie or anyone else from making a claim. Therefore the VP nominee would become the Presidential nominee.

        That’s why they want to wait until after the convention. Once that’s over Sanders is out of the picture. That’s when they can replace Biden with someone else.

      MarkS in reply to Milhouse. | August 6, 2020 at 2:34 pm

      SCOTUS has ruled that electors must vote for the winner of their respective state’s popular vote.

        Milhouse in reply to MarkS. | August 6, 2020 at 4:10 pm

        No, it is has not. It said states are allowed to require electors to honor their pledge. But that pledge is to the party, not to a specific individual.

My actual vote would be; “Not if it can be avoided by his handlers.”

I would bet that Biden, in his current condition, is chomping at the bit to debate, since people who show such cognitive decline rarely realize it.

Do the Democrats really have a choice?
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If they do not have Biden debate Trump then it will be seen as a tacit admission that Joe is suffering from a cognitive decline that would render him unsuitable. I ask everyone I know who is undecided if they would vote for Joe if he does not debate and I have yet to encounter someone saying they would still consider it. Everyone says “Heck no!”
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If they do debate, then there is the possibility of one doing marginally well such that he could fool some of the public. Of course, there is also that computer program that could mimic Joe while they have someone else provide cogent answers – an option if the debate is not face to face. (https://qz.com/ 525566/theres-now-a-computer-program-that-lets-you-control-someone-elses-face/) (Remove the space for the link to work.) Additionally, Lyrebird could be used to mimic Biden’s voice.
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Perhaps I am paranoid, but I think there will be a debate and, if there is, the Left will use all the dirty tricks they can to pull it off to fool the public.

Joe Biden’s problem: If he debates it will show his cognitive decline, proving he’s not fit for the office. If he doesn’t debate voters will presume he is cognitively challenged. Either course shows that he will be unable to handle the stress of the office.

bobguzzardi48 | August 6, 2020 at 10:39 am

No

AlexanderYpsilantis | August 6, 2020 at 10:47 am

Biden would only ‘debate’ with an ear-feed for his handlers to instruct him what to say. It’s way beyond is capability to engage in a give and take with any Republican political leader, let alone Donald Trump. Biden suffers from dementia, everyone knows it.

    Another Voice in reply to AlexanderYpsilantis. | August 6, 2020 at 11:56 am

    Ear feeds will only complicate and muddle poor Joe. Dementia does not allow what one hears to be independent of the process of simultaneously forming the use of those words, at best his responses are complicated by mixed processing of information. The KISS approach is always the best as too many words have no association to the current reality. One of the tells which Biden’s handlers have accommodated is the “Sun Down” part of his day which is why sometimes he seems more cognizant than many he is found flailing for just not the correct word…it’s any word. There is no avoidance to when “Sun Down” periods become “Sun Down to Sun Rise” days and is no longer Dementia but Alzheimer’s..

He may be on he debate stage, standing at a lectern, but that’s not the same as actually debating.

“C’mon, man!”

Biden will back out of the debates, somehow blaming it all on Trump.
Trump will goad Gropey Joe into saying something stupid like how he’d beat the dog faced pony soldier stuffing out of Trump behind the wood shed….

Another Voice | August 6, 2020 at 2:42 pm

Highlights from some of the times Biden was “allowed” to wing it on his own. Isolation, esp. with Dementia, will not serve him well when he HAS to become the Public Face of the Democrat candidate for President of the United States.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA-GoeFGyIc

Likely, Biden will wear his black face mask and an in-ear speaker. His microphone will be off. Responses will be played back from off stage, and he’ll be told to move his head when he hears the voice in his ear.

He can’t string 90 SECONDS of coherent speech together, I say no.

Yes, he will absolutely debate Trump. There may be restriction in place to help him look coherent, but it’s not something he can get away with not doing and serious people on his team know it.

The “major” networks and cable outlets already have refused to air the full Trump WuFlu briefings, so my guess is that they will just air edited clips that show Biden in his best light.

He does not get around debating, though. His maniacal giggles, random ramblings, and bizarre shouting/insults will just be edited out as if they never happened. It doesn’t matter that they will be seen online (like here at LI) because Biden voters will never see what really happened and will believe whatever they hear. Completely pathetic, of course, and embarrassing for our supposed intellectual betters, but that is what will happen.

They’ll debate long before Durham indicts Brennan.
(Ooooops….Durham just said that Brennan’s going to skate!)
One of those late Friday cowardly news dumps…..this one (and the one exonerating Ilhan Omar)….on the eve of Congress going on Summer recess.

I think Joe Biden will be sitting at the little kids‘ table all by himself.

I expect the Democrats to pull an October Surprise, and to send Biden’s VP (likely Whitmer or Rice) to debate Trump on his behalf.

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