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Wuhan cover-up: Evidence suggests real death toll “16 times the official number” reported by China

Wuhan cover-up: Evidence suggests real death toll “16 times the official number” reported by China

Remember, Dr. Deborah Birx said U.S. health officials didn’t anticipate this pandemic because of incomplete data from China. Now WaPo says evidence points to “a death toll in Wuhan of about 42,000 — or 16 times the official number”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-6xvujQTZU

Day by day, the extent of the Chinese government’s crime against the world grows.

Whether the coronavirus ravaging the world started in a wet market or a Wuhan lab, the Chinese government early on deceived the world, silenced Chinese citizens who tried to warn the world, and have lied ever since.

Remember, Dr. Deborah Birx explained that one of the reasons U.S. health experts did not expect this pandemic is that we were not given complete data by China:

In a recently surfaced interview in late January 2020, Dr. Anthony Fauci stated he did not see the threat of a catastrophic pandemic:

“This is not a major threat for the people in United States, and this is not something the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about”

You know who did see the emerging threat? Tucker Carlson and Sen. Tom Cotton, two people maliciously attacked by the media and Democrats:

Tucker Carlson: “Why am I watching impeachment coverage all day?”

Sen. Tom Cotton: “I suspect that months from now or perhaps even years from now when people look back at this time, coronavirus will be considered the bigger story than impeachment.”

Now the mainstream media finally is being forced to acknowledge the massive Chinese deception, and the implications. The Washington Post reports:

The coronavirus pandemic ravaging the globe officially claimed 2,563 lives in Wuhan, where it began in a market that sold exotic animals for consumption. But evidence emerging from the city as it stirs from its two-month hibernation suggests the real death toll is exponentially higher.

Long lines have been forming at funeral homes in Wuhan over the past two weeks, as family members have been informed they may collect their loved ones’ remains ahead of Tomb-Sweeping Day. Some waited six hours to collect an urn, then the ashes.
The Hankou Funeral Parlor’s crematorium was operating 19 hours a day, with male staff enlisted to help carry bodies. In just two days, the home received 5,000 urns, the respected magazine Caixin reported.

Using photos posted online, social media sleuths have estimated that Wuhan funeral homes had returned 3,500 urns a day since March 23. That would imply a death toll in Wuhan of about 42,000 — or 16 times the official number. Another widely shared calculation, based on Wuhan’s 84 furnaces running nonstop and each cremation taking an hour, put the death toll at 46,800.

With this deception in mind, Trump’s decision on January 31 to shut down travel from China was prophetic, and against general advice. Not only did Joe Biden criticize Trump’s action as “xenophobic,” the person Biden who now is Biden’s top cronovirus adviser came out publicly at the time against it.

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But what of the number of CASES?

That points to an infection rate of 420,000 +. A far more realistic number.

I thought the number of funeral urns ordered was on the order of half a mil.

Years ago Mao said to Henry Kissinger that it would not be a concern if China lost a million people in a War with the United States. Kissinger replied it would not concern the United States either if China lost a million people, but that China would not lose so few people in such a war.

China still does not care about its people. They care about the CCP.

    After Japan’s WWII “rape of Nanking” where they in less than a month, over 100,000 Chinese were slaughtered with swords and machetes, General Joseph Stilwell confronted Chiang “the peanut” Kai-shek for his callous non-reaction (Stilwell was frustrated with China’s reluctance to fight). Kai-shek famously told him “You could march Chinese shoulder-to-shoulder a mile across at a steady pace into the Sea of China and never run out of Chinese.”

    This was our ally who fled to Taiwan to establish the Republic of China. That appears to be the general attitude of most Asian leaders and for that matter, the rest of the world too. THAT is what we are dealing with in this globalized world. Are we still the “shining city on the hill”? Unfortunately, we need to prove it again do to our own corrupt leadership and cultural elites. We need to toughen up.

      Kepha H in reply to Pasadena Phil. | April 9, 2020 at 2:16 pm

      The man’s surname is Chiang/Jiang (蒋). Keep in mind that Old Chiang also resisted Japanese offers a separate peace throughout the war.

texansamurai | April 3, 2020 at 8:04 pm

even if fatalities were 500k, still a very low percentage of deaths in a country with over a billion population-come on

wuhan virus is not ebola or some other level four pathogen with a 95%+ mortality rate

as more information becomes available worldwide, not the fake news media company line, but genuine science with verifiable numbers this looks to be some virulent flu bug only

our reactions here are looking more and more like ignorant people acting on bad information and responding to a crisis that exists in the minds of shills, etc and not in the reality of the physical world

    oldgoat36 in reply to texansamurai. | April 3, 2020 at 8:40 pm

    I have no doubt that this is a very nasty virus, I fear that this will cause permanent damage to the lungs for many people.

    It also was used politically by the left to work on damaging President Trump, and destroy the economy, which the left had stated was a big concern to them – while they downplayed how exceeding good it was. This shutting down of the workforce is in part to help protect people from this nasty virus, but I think it is not letting a crisis go to waste as well.

    Never before has the world seen itself being shut down like this over a virus. Some were, at least so far, much worse than this has been.

    It is possible that despite China lying about it, for which they should be held fiscally responsible to the fullest extent possible, that there is far more known about this disease, or at least the dangers it poses to the population which are not being shared to the people.

    Given Cuomo’s reaction to his brother Chrissy (if it isn’t fake, which I don’t rule out) having the virus, it seems there isn’t a high level of concern. That could be that the virus isn’t as bad as is being made out, or that this is a scheme cooked up by the brothers to give first hand accounting of the virus. Chrissy seems to be over selling it, in my estimation.

    I think the left and the globalists saw a means to potentially gain the upper hand in stealing national sovereignty. Our left believe they will be the ones on top. The Chinese don’t care how many die in their country, and I seriously doubt our left really cares all that much either, just so long as it means a path to power.

      scooterjay in reply to oldgoat36. | April 4, 2020 at 8:14 am

      The left have been signaling their intentions for over a year. Remember their dire warning of economic woe? This whole ordeal stinks like a Chinese wet market

    HImmanuelson in reply to texansamurai. | April 8, 2020 at 5:32 pm

    Yeah, the US is only at 1,000 deaths a day now with 15,000 dead and the deaths per day accelerating and expected to continue for the next 4-5 weeks before slowing down.

    No worries, it’s only people.

Worth asking how many people would normally die in two months in a city of 12 million.

Meanwhile the fearmongering continues. Now they want everybody to wear scarves or bandannas over their faces.

    n.n in reply to txvet2. | April 3, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    Recommendation Regarding the Use of Cloth Face Coverings, Especially in Areas of Significant Community-Based Transmission

    It is critical to emphasize that maintaining 6-feet social distancing remains important to slowing the spread of the virus. CDC is additionally advising the use of simple cloth face coverings to slow the spread of the virus and help people who may have the virus and do not know it from transmitting it to others.

    The guidance is voluntary and circumstantial. That said, ultimately, the virus(es) will continue to propagate, until we are either dead or immune, it evolves and is no longer viable, or it gets bored.

      txvet2 in reply to n.n. | April 3, 2020 at 11:52 pm

      I didn’t say it was mandatory. As for me, I’ve had enough. If it should happen that I die of WooHoo virus, it won’t be because I’m cowering in fear in my closet. To hell with it and all of the cowards who are letting take over and destroy our republic.

        HImmanuelson in reply to txvet2. | April 8, 2020 at 5:29 pm

        Yeah, you’re right! You should go hang out in large crowds and take no precautions because what’s the worst that could happen? Those partiers at Mardi Gras had it right because… oh, that became one of the biggest coronavirus hotspots in the country, didn’t it?

        The Hasidic Jews in NYC got it right too! They ignored the warnings and continued to gather in large numbers for funerals and religious events and oh, wait. They became ground zero for the infections in NYC.

        I’d say go live your life any way that you want but unfortunately that nice lady running the cash register at the store you shop at probably has kids and siblings and parents that she loves and doesn’t want to see getting sick with a 3% chance of dying.

Harvard department chair arrested; charged with concealing ties to China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=40&v=pgAUwb0zpLg&feature=emb_logo

Whoa, it also includes a Chinese biologist who is a lt. in the Chinese military as well as a Chinese trying to smuggle some germs out of the US. Vid posted 1/28/20

It is my understanding that the crematoriums have been running non stop at as many as 3500 a day for the last 7 weeks. I bet the number is as high as 140K

With all of our Silicon Valley technology, the world is held hostage by a bug…

Wuhan has a population around 11 million. What would the normal die off be for a city that size in China? I think we need to consider that when totaling up the number of suspected coronavirus cremations.

    Subotai Bahadur in reply to ss323. | April 4, 2020 at 12:48 am

    There are reports that in January 5 million people fled Wuhan. Untested.

    Subotai Bahadur

    Barry in reply to ss323. | April 4, 2020 at 8:49 am

    Take the USA for example, 325million, a bit less than 60k die every week. (that’s right, a bit less than 60,000 per week)

    60 / 325 = 0.184

    12million x 0.184 = 2200 per week

      Barry in reply to Barry. | April 4, 2020 at 8:54 am

      ‭Well, just in case it is confusing –
      1.8461538461538461538461538461538e-4‬

      0.000184 x 12million = 2200

    HImmanuelson in reply to ss323. | April 8, 2020 at 5:39 pm

    That’s the same argument used by people with regard to 9/11. How many people would die in NYC anyway in a month, so what’s the big deal with the 9/11 attack?

    Yes, people die of natural causes every day, that’s life. But 9/11 wasn’t a natural death for people that had lived out their life. Just as this isn’t. We can’t completely stop it but we can dramatically reduce its spread and save many thousands of lives that would otherwise be lost.

Hey look at the book that came out in 2009:

Dread: How Fear and Fantasy Have Fueled Epidemics from the Black Death to the Avian Flu
by Philip Alcabes

The average individual is far more likely to die in a car accident than from a communicable disease…yet we are still much more fearful of the epidemic. Even at our most level-headed, the thought of an epidemic can inspire terror. As Philip Alcabes persuasively argues in Dread, our anxieties about epidemics are created not so much by the germ or microbe in question—or the actual risks of contagion—but by the unknown, the undesirable, and the misunderstood.Alcabes examines epidemics through history to show how they reflect the particular social and cultural anxieties of their times. From Typhoid Mary to bioterrorism, as new outbreaks are unleashed or imagined, new fears surface, new enemies are born, and new behaviors emerge. Dread dissects the fascinating story of the imagined epidemic: the one that we think is happening, or might happen; the one that disguises moral judgments and political agendas, the one that ultimately expresses our deepest fears. (less)

Masks. And get back to work.

This is the “Coup II Flu” – the treatment is firing Barr-sessions and getting the US back to work.

I strongly feel that this is so contrived. The left cares about our well being as much as the CCP does it’s own citizens. You want a war? You are about to get it.

    It’s not just the left. I am dismayed by how passive everyone has been with what can plausibly be argued to be a test run for martial law. There was no appeal for us as patriotic Americans to rally to the cause by making sacrifices and following sensible precautionary procedures. What we saw was an instant capitulation to “scientists” and “experts” who were clearly uninformed and unprepared to assess the situation but quick to impose extreme solutions. And now they are almost all blaming someone else for “bad data” when it was they who were responsible for using common sense in building their models.

    Even worse, we have already wasted trillions of dollars on three insane “relief” bills that were largely unread and passed on voice vote so no one can be held accountable once the unfunded “anchor baby” socialist provisions kick in with the impact of a decompression bomb computer virus.

    Many of us voiced our skepticism right from the beginning and were beaten down for being paranoid conspiracy theorists. We didn’t surrender to the climate change “scientists” and their useless models yet how gullible and meek have we been surrendering to the “pandemic experts” and their useless models? We have been led to the same place by either and both advocate total government takeover of our lives. Coincidence?

    I am not feeling all that optimistic about recovering from the economic and societal damage self-inflicted by our government, media and elites unless we get the economy re-stated very soon and start dismantling most of these “relief” bills. We are such gullible sheep.

      txvet2 in reply to Pasadena Phil. | April 4, 2020 at 1:25 pm

      “I am not feeling all that optimistic about recovering from the economic and societal damage self-inflicted by our government, media and elites”

      My bet right now is that there isn’t going to be a recovery, at least not anywhere near where we were before Trump and his merry crew of “experts” attacked the economy. We have a lot of bright people (and quite a few not-so-bright) running businesses in this country, and they can see far enough into the future to expect this scenario to replay next year or the year after. There is no basis for anyone to have confidence that restarting or opening a business will have any chance of success. As you and others have pointed out, we’ve reached (and passed) a tipping point. There isn’t any going back to how things were.

        jb4 in reply to txvet2. | April 4, 2020 at 7:47 pm

        Try decades longer than the decline (if ever) to fully recover and it is easy to explain why. Very rough numbers – half the workforce, or about 75 million workers of a total 150 million, works in businesses under 500 employees. I would bet any amount of money that more that 10% of these workers will not get their jobs back, because the businesses will not reopen their doors. That is 7.5 million or 5% of the total. Add that to the 3.5% record low unemployment rate that we had and you get a new post-recovery normal of 8.5% unemployment rate, which can gradually be worked down over time. With this general perspective, I do not think we will see 3.5% unemployment again in most of our lifetimes.

inspectorudy | April 4, 2020 at 11:14 am

What one has to do to believe China is to say that while the virus was in its infancy and millions of Chinese were traveling all over the world, none were traveling within China. Just to the US alone, millions of Chinese traveled to the US during the Dec-January period but we are to believe that none traveled within China? BS!

    (Accidental downgrade) Based on the reports about urns, 50-100,000 deaths in Wuhan alone would not surprise me. Then, as you note, there is the rest of the country. Trump’s canceling of travel from China, condemned by Democrats, probably saved 50K lives on the West Coast.

texansamurai | April 4, 2020 at 1:03 pm

Masks. And get back to work.
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this–forgive me Lord but don’t particularly give a damn how many people die in mainland china–the health of our economy(next to the health of our citizens)should be our primary concern–if our economy is allowed to crash due to inaccurate information/panic/dissention pushed 24/7 by the fake news bunch then we will be susceptible to much worse complications/consequences than anything projected/experienced so far from the wuhan virus

GitOffMahLawn | April 8, 2020 at 10:30 am

“Day by day, the extent of the Chinese government’s crime against the world grows.”

Most certainly. As such, the case becomes more and more airtight that…

China is Assh*le.

Dangerous, nasty assh*le.

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