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Democrat Superdelegates Signal Willingness to Block Bernie Sanders at Convention

Democrat Superdelegates Signal Willingness to Block Bernie Sanders at Convention

“No, no, I think the rules are set and we ought to follow the rules. Especially when someone says follow the rules who’s not even a Democrat”

https://youtu.be/-ZAuzeV8U-s

The Democratic National Convention this summer could become very interesting. There is so much concern about running Bernie Sanders against Trump that some party superdelegates are already saying they’ll attempt to block his nomination.

That should go over well with Bernie supporters, shouldn’t it?

Graig Graziosi writes at the Independent UK:

DNC superdelegates warn they will block Bernie Sanders at convention and spark civil war within party

Senator Bernie Sanders’ issues with the Democratic establishment may continue past the nominating races and into the Democratic National Convention, according to a new report.

If Mr Sanders arrives at the convention with any less than a majority of delegates pledged to him, he may find himself with a wave of superdelegates voting against his nomination.

The New York Times reported Thursday that in interviews with 93 superdelegates, only nine said that Mr Sanders arriving at the convention with a plurality was reason enough to support him as nominee…

“A vast majority of those superdelegates – whose ranks include federal elected officials, former presidents and vice presidents and DNC members – predicted that no candidate would clinch the nomination during the primaries, and that there would be a brokered convention fight in July to choose a nominee.”

The 2016 Democrat convention will look like a love-fest by comparison if this happens.

Politico has more:

Bernie and Dems brace for superdelegate showdown

It’s Bernie Sanders versus the Democratic National Committee again, and as in 2016, many congressional Democrats aren’t taking his side.

Sanders has argued that whoever gets the most delegates — even if they fall short of the DNC’s threshold — should be crowned the nominee for president. But House and Senate Democrats, for the most part, insist that the party stick with the rules that were rewritten specifically to address complaints of bias against Sanders in 2016.

The looming threat of a convention fight is driving yet another painful wedge between his campaign and congressional Democrats, with none of the roughly 20 lawmakers interviewed for this story explicitly endorsing Sanders’ view that he should automatically get the nod if he has the most delegates — but not the majority.

“No, no, I think the rules are set and we ought to follow the rules. Especially when someone says follow the rules who’s not even a Democrat,” said Rep. Juan Vargas (D-Calif.), who has endorsed former NYC mayor Mike Bloomberg. “He just wants us to rubber stamp his election, which we shouldn’t do. I certainly won’t do.”

One of the reasons this could happen is because of Bernie himself, but somehow I don’t think his supporters will appreciate the irony.

The DNC’s superdelegate rules have changed dramatically since 2016, in large part because of the sharp criticism levied by Sanders and his allies about the clear favoritism many superdelegates showed toward Hillary Clinton.

Can you guess which side Elizabeth Warren is on in this argument? We can probably stop speculating that she is angling to become Bernie’s VP pick:

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Hillary! Hillary!

    Sunlight78 in reply to snopercod. | February 29, 2020 at 10:48 am

    I have been sending Hillary emails (her staff probably reads them if anything) about how much the country needs her and how we hope she is brave enough to step into the DNC convention to set things right. 2020 is the year she can beat Trump and still be the first woman president.

    See my other comment about DNC Convention chaos and pop corn. If Hitlery would step in to take the nomination it would be a night to remember.

      notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to Sunlight78. | February 29, 2020 at 5:41 pm

      That’s wicked!!!!!

      And I endorse this action!

      Snark!

      “CRASH AND BERNIE!

      Actually this episode is not so much about Bernie, as it is about the total and complete collapse of the Democratic Party, which by default—includes their symbiotes in the traditional broadcast media.

      Their utter incompetence is a direct result of putting politics above EVERYTHING…which fell in line with the former DNC Chair (2005-09) Howard Dean’s philosophy of Permanent Campaign Mode.

      And in 2008, newly elected POTUS, Barack Obama, the community organizer in chief— embraced this permanent campaign– and lifted it to heights only Marxists dream of.

      Everything became hyper-political. The Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts,, Hollywood, news, sports, entertainment….even the freaking WEATHER is now political..

      Democrats propose solutions to ‘problems that don’t or rarely exist’ and their results are an embarrassment— many times causing problems that never existed in the first place. [SEE: Medieval Diseases in California] …..”

      https://intellectualfroglegs.com/crash-and-bernie/

And this is the tricky bit. The Independents are working to toss the DNC into a brokered convention. The goal is to split the DNC with the Left taking off in a huff to form their own Progressive (cough Communist-Socialist-Fascist-True Nazi) Party. This would leave center moonbat Democraps with a Democrat Party and hopefully we can peel off the remaining sane Democrats into the Independents and form a viable third party. Yes this may sound fantasy and never work to get our third party but at least it would be fun to watch the Democraps implode.

Here is the plan and you can join in if you like. As each state comes up for primary and if they have an open primary that lets Independents vote – the goal is to have Bernie in first place but a close first without a majority and one of the DNC globalist darlings In second (Bloomberg or Biden). I prefer Biden because he is a complete wreck but others think Bloomberg and his money will be more tempting for DNC and superdelegates. Each primary is a wait and see how to vote to swing this scenario.

In 2016 we split up and some of us worked hard for Bernie while the others worked to tank Globalist Jeb (My true fav candidates for 2016 were Democrat Webb and then GOP Cruz). The Bernite Independents goal was to get Bernie strong enough that it freaked Hillary out and she and the DNC did something to him to stop him winning (if she didn’t play true to form and cheat then no harm no foul but we knew she would) all the while providing truthful Hillary info to the Bernie supporters so when the time came the Bernie supporters with eyes opened rightfully refused to vote for Hitlery.

I hope we can help swing this as it is time for more real political options and the DNC is ripe to crack like an egg. Either way I hope the DNC lives in interesting times and that we can make it as interesting as possible.

Remember if you are an Independent/GOP and can vote in your states DNC primary to vote and try to do it in a way to broker the DNC convention in the most inflammatory way possible and then watch the fireworks and get some popcorn.

    Free State Paul in reply to Sunlight78. | February 29, 2020 at 1:14 pm

    There will never be a long-term Third Party in America.

    From a theoretical point of view, since there is no difference between coming in second and coming in third in our system, Number 2 and Number 3 parties will soon merge.

    From a practical point of view, the two parties run the political system. It is difficult to get on ballots, get on the debate stage without a D or an R after your name.

    From a cynical point of view, why would the Oligarchy fund a third party? It’s expensive enough buying off the two existing parties. Why encourage a third extortionist?

      Sunlight78 in reply to Free State Paul. | February 29, 2020 at 1:31 pm

      And the other reason is that while the Independents have grown in number, the common element is a dislike of the DNC and GOP. On other topics Independents are very diverse so it is difficult to rally around a common candidate. One thing we do agree on is sticking it to the DNC and globalists from both parties right now for amusement and to help the US.

      Parties have come and gone (or become irrelevant while still scraping around the edges -> Whigs) so the hope that the Democrats embrace of Communism/Socialism/Fascism might result in a fractured split that sees the rise of something more centrist is a reasonable hope. I agree the globalist and MSM have invested way to much into the system of DNC and RINOs to let them fall without a fight which is why setting the split off internally seems like the best method for any success.

    I received my WA sate ballot the other day. I can vote for any one of the D candidates or Trump for the state primary.

    Where I’m cautioned, is on the outside of the return envelope, I must check a box stating my preference for either the D or R party AND my commitment to participate in the primary ONLY for that party.

    I’m quite troubled that it essentially forces me into making a PUBLIC declaration by signature on the outside of my ballot of party preference. It’s not a vote per se, but I suspect IF I were to check R on the outside of the envelope while selecting a D on my ballot inside the envelope, they’d discard or discount my vote. Or if I refuse to check either box, or annotate the envelope that my party preference is a private matter, again they’d discard or discount my vote.

    I have about a week to decide. My inclination is to cast my primary ballot for Bernie. Not that it’ll make much difference in WA state – I suspect he’d carry the state with or without my vote.

    Not sure about November yet. Would love to see whatever chaos the DNC convention brings spill over into major D discouragement in November, such that Trump runs away with re-election.

      Sunlight78 in reply to MrE. | February 29, 2020 at 1:39 pm

      In some states there is a percentage of delegates awarded so by voting you can help in those states split of delegates more toward your choice. I would agree Bernie is a good choice for WA as he is expected to win and has many violent followers in antifa that would be encouraged by a win. I heard a bunch are planning on camping out at the convention area so that they can use bull horns and make their presence known that they will tolerate no stealing of the election this time from Bernie. That should add to the amusement if Bernie is not the nominee.

      notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to MrE. | February 29, 2020 at 1:56 pm

      You can honestly mark D as your preference – for the primary.

      It is none of the Dem Party Dictatorship’s business what your motives are. You honestly want to associate with the DEM party in their primaries.

      If you change your mind about party preference the next day, then just though Noogies to the Dictators.

      Milhouse in reply to MrE. | March 1, 2020 at 1:05 am

      If you’re not willing to be publicly identified as a Democrat why on earth do you expect you should be allowed a say in their primary? In many/most states you would have to have made that declaration long ago, by registering for that party. In your state they let you delay your choice until primary day; and you’re still complaining? I don’t understand it.

      If it were up to me voting on party nominations would be restricted to dues-paying members.

        Sunlight78 in reply to Milhouse. | March 1, 2020 at 1:15 pm

        Or not a Democrat at all but voting in their primary to stir up a mess. Because we can and the bigger mess it makes the worse off they will be in the general election. Plus looking forward to a fun night viewing their primary convention. Let loose the hounds!

    tiger66 in reply to Sunlight78. | February 29, 2020 at 2:25 pm

    I live in SC, and I just got back from voting. Nice day; rode my bike to the polling place. Took all of 15 minutes. Easy peasy.

    Thought long and hard and ended up voting for Sleepy Joe. If he wins in SC, it’ll reinvigorate his campaign—what there is left of it at any rate. It will thus set his campaign and—more importantly—him personallyup for a massive fail on Super Tuesday.

    Can’t get any better than this. If Bernie gets robbed again—and I’m betting he will—look for some real militancy from the Bernie Bros. They’re not all that nice to begin with—Socialists never are—and they will definitely go the civil discord route.

    Get those police dogs, rubber bullets, and fire hoses ready; it’s goingto be a long convention. Heh.

    ConradCA in reply to Sunlight78. | February 29, 2020 at 8:44 pm

    I registered Dem and voted for Bernie the Communist because I hate Hillary an BJ. They belong in prison, not the White House.

4th armored div | February 29, 2020 at 10:44 am

if DNC chooses Bernie they will become CPA.

“No, no, I think the rules are set and we ought to follow the rules.”

Democrats always follow the rules, don’t they? Those sanctuary cities are just fevered imaginations of thos right-wing wackos.

    CorkyAgain in reply to pfg. | February 29, 2020 at 4:29 pm

    I must point out once again that the Dem’s overarching (and perhaps only) rule is to follow only those rules which serve to secure and preserve their power to do whatever it is they want to do in the first place.

    Milhouse in reply to pfg. | March 1, 2020 at 1:06 am

    Which rules do sanctuary cities not follow? There is no rule that forces them to cooperate with ICE, and there can’t be one because the constitution forbids it.

The Democrat “super” delegates are a prime example of the Dems/Progs. They know better than the who voted for their choice.

They are still upset that the smartest woman in the world lost a rigged election to a person who never held elected office.

2020 should be rigged better, with the dinosaur media, a wholly owned subsidiary of the Democrat party.

    Milhouse in reply to Romey. | March 1, 2020 at 1:07 am

    The Democrat “super” delegates are a prime example of the Dems/Progs. They know better than the who voted for their choice.

    They probably do know better. And they are delegates, with the right to make their own choice based on their own judgment.

Meh. The article is basing its conclusion on a sample of superdelegates they’ve selected to ask, of whom only nine would consider supporting Sanders even if he comes in having won the primaries.

On the flip side, something like two dozen superdelegates have openly endorsed Sanders, in advance of the primaries. (Biden, by comparison, has about triple that number of endorsements. Bloomberg’s billions — and the fact that he basically paid for the whole election campaigns of hundreds of superdelegates — only bought him about the same number of endorsements as Sanders has.) (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_2020_Democratic_Party_automatic_delegates )

This is just bargaining and political commentators coming up with “interesting” things to speculate about. Remember when “faithless delegates” were going to nominate someone else at the Republican Convention, or when “faithless electors” were going to switch to Kasich?

The Democrats have whipped their base into a frenzied mob. As with impeachment, they’ll end up going along with that mob.

    TheOldZombie in reply to clintack. | February 29, 2020 at 12:12 pm

    I’d say this is slightly different the the faithless delegates or faithless electors stuff in 2016. In 2016 Trump clearly had enough delegates to win the first ballot at the convention. Most of that talk about delegates and electors was just wishful thinking and everyone knew it.

    With Bernie though if he can’t win the nomination on the fist ballot at the convention because he doesn’t have enough delegates than the one thing the Democrats put in place going back to 1980 comes into play and he could easily find himself on the losing side of the convention. That is the super delegates.

    People forget that Reagan was hated by the Republican establishment but since Reagan had the delegate count he was the one nominated. The Democrats saw what happened to the GOP and they decided to prevent something like that happening to them they would make super delegates that were capable of overriding the voters from the various primaries.

    It now looks like there is a chance the Democrats super delegates will enable the Democrat party to deny a nomination to a presidential candidate that has the most delegates but not enough to secure a first ballot win at the convention.

    If the convention goes to a second ballot I fully expect the Democrats to do everything they can to prevent Sanders from securing the nomination.

      notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to TheOldZombie. | February 29, 2020 at 2:08 pm

      “If the convention goes to a second ballot I fully expect the Democrats to do everything they can to prevent Sanders from securing the nomination.”

      Then Katy bar the door!

    bw222 in reply to clintack. | February 29, 2020 at 3:39 pm

    Super delegates will represent 25% of the total delegate count in Milwaukee.

<munching popcorn>

    notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to McGehee. | February 29, 2020 at 2:10 pm

    Breaking news from MSNBC and CNN:

    POPCORN SHORTAGE! POPCORN SHORTAGE!!!!
    THE SKY IS FALLING!
    EVERYONE’S GONNA DIE DUE TO THE POPCORN SHORTAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Lucifer Morningstar | February 29, 2020 at 11:07 am

This is going to be good. The superdelegates are going to block Sanders’ nomination and Milwaukee is going to burn as promised. ‘Nuff said.

    Alternate prediction: Next Wednesday, the Democrats and the Media will proclaim with one voice that Bernie Sanders isn’t that bad, and certainly much better than Trump. NeverTrump Republicans will take about a week longer before joining in the chorus.

      Lucifer Morningstar in reply to clintack. | February 29, 2020 at 12:16 pm

      Alternate, Alternate prediction: The sheer stupidity of the democratic leadership will cause them to pull another superdelegate coup of the democratic convention (as happened in 2016) and they will nominate anyone but Sanders on the assumption that a socialist cannot hope to win an election against Pres. Trump. Especially if that socialist is Bernie Sanders. But the NeverTrump RINO traitors will still jump on the bandwagon shortly thereafter because they can’t do anything else. It’ll be a done deal.

      And then as I said, Milwaukee will burn as the BernieBros promised.

      Gonna be fun this Wednesday.

        notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to Lucifer Morningstar. | February 29, 2020 at 2:13 pm

        Spot On.

        That is what I expect.

        The DEMS have practiced their corruptions in 3 centuries now.,
        Why would the DEMS stop being corrupt to get their way now????????

      Oh, there’s no doubt that some of them will say it in public. We’ve got NeverTrumpers who would vote Democrat if they literally ran Stalin.

      But behind their words, they’re looking at Bernie like a whole pack of dogs with diarrhea running around their house. His nomination spells a worse Dem disaster than 1994, and that was epic. They need somebody who can mouth platitudes, sound sane, and take the blame for the oncoming defeat while the rest of the Dem candidates hold onto the House. They *NEED* the House. That’s where spending bills get made. That’s where their bribe money gets allocated, taxpayer dollars to companies back to Dem candidates. The last election would have been a blowout for them if the Mueller report had been released a few months before. They don’t have anything like it for this election, and they’re getting frantic.

      Make popcorn. This will be good.

        tiger66 in reply to georgfelis. | February 29, 2020 at 2:31 pm

        ” … worse Dem disaster than 1994, …” Could you clarify?

          MajorWood in reply to tiger66. | February 29, 2020 at 3:09 pm

          94 was the year that all of the unbeatable democrats got beaten, for starters. That was the first phase of the fallout from the 94AWB, the second was the expansion of concealed carry into about 25 more states due to the formation of the grassroots gun groups from 94. And they still call Klinton the greatest gun control president of all time. 95+% of the AR’s in private hands are a response to AWB94. Oh, and the third phse I guess was Trump in the White House. No one unites conservatives like a Klinton in office.

          Katy L. Stamper in reply to tiger66. | February 29, 2020 at 4:30 pm

          To expand a little: the dems lost the house for the first time in decades. Newt Gingrish, R, Ga., became speaker of the house.

          The gop had the “Contract with America” and voters liked it.

    Unless you happen to live in Milwaukee. I expect to see stupid protests and even highway blocks by idiots and the Milwaukee police will be given stand down orders right from the mayor’s office. And with no more sheriff Clark there won’t be anyone keeping a lid on the garbage can of that convention. Heck, the “important” members of the Democrat attendees are bussing in from Illinois hotels already. They won’t mingle with the commoners at all.

If Warren had come off more often as she does in that clip, then perhaps she would be in a much better position then she is now.

Watching Dr. Frankenstein battle his monster is going to be entertaining, and it won’t matter who wins, because in the end they are both going to lose.

Comanche Voter | February 29, 2020 at 1:05 pm

Stick the shiv in the Crazy Old Commie Coot one more time? The German populace believed that they’d been stabbed in the back when the German Army (or German politicians) surrendered at the end of WW I. And look what that “they stabbed us in the back” got the world some twenty-one years later. The Sandernistas will really go bonkers.

For decades the left has told you they would be more than willing to remove the burden of you having to pick a can’t-didate from your busy life. You ignored them Now they are TELLING you.

don’t you just love the hypocrisy of the democratic party, they want popular vote for president of the USA but when it comes to determining who will be the standard bearer for the party in said election they are more than happy to super-delegates to determine that person

I have to say, I hope they do block him. Other conservatives think it will cause fun “chaos“ to vote for Bernie. respectfully, I think they are dumba$$es.

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