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Joe Biden Wants to Bring Back the Individual Mandate in Obamacare

Joe Biden Wants to Bring Back the Individual Mandate in Obamacare

“I have a plan how to do that that’s rational, that’ll cost a hell of a lot less and will work”

https://youtu.be/So52QpZ5GLA

During a recent interview on CNN, Joe Biden revealed that he wants to reinstate the individual mandate in Obamacare, the least popular aspect of the law that eviscerated the Democratic party during Obama’s presidency.

Biden’s entire candidacy, so far, seems to be an effort to save what’s left of Obama’s legacy.

Molly Prince reports at the Daily Caller:

Biden Vows To Reinstate Obamacare’s Individual Mandate

Democratic presidential front-runner Joe Biden revealed Friday he would reinstate the individual mandate and penalize Americans who do not obtain health care coverage if he were to win the presidency.

“I think there should be health care for everyone. I have a plan how to do that that’s rational, that’ll cost a hell of a lot less and will work,” Biden told CNN’s Chris Cuomo during an interview.

Biden put forth that as a way to guarantee that all Americans receive health care coverage, the federal government would fine any individual who did not obtain sufficient health insurance…

“Yes, yes, I’d bring back the individual mandate,” Biden replied when Cuomo inquired further about the unpopular penalty.

“We’re in a situation where if you provide an option for anybody who in fact wants to buy into Medicare for All, they can buy in,” Biden said. “But if they like their employer-based insurance … they shouldn’t have to give it up.”

Here’s the video:

Here are a few Twitter reactions via Twitchy:

This supercut from the interview is a riot. Watch to the end to hear Biden claim the Russian meddling of 2016 would never have happened on his and Obama’s watch, which it, you know, did.

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“But if they like their employer-based insurance … they shouldn’t have to give it up.”

Where have we heard something like this before? Oh right, “If you like your health insurance, you can keep it.”

legacyrepublican | July 6, 2019 at 12:07 pm

Translation: I want to “man”handle the guys just like I do the women I am so fondle of. That is why I want the mandate back.

Also, that supercut clip makes me think that he’s desperately trying to connect with people in the way president Trump connects with people. He can’t pull it off and he looks silly trying.

Such a disgusting Cretin. O’Biden has been irrelevant to the national conversation for as along as he has defiled public office.

What a pathetic jackoff. Why on earth would ANYONE believe a single word that comes of out his mouth? But he’s so fucking dumb he doesn’t even know when to shut up, the comic gold just spews out like a geyser. Moron.

“Joe Biden revealed Friday he would reinstate the individual mandate and penalize Americans”

Every-frappin’-thing about the left is force. And their hectoring us is relentless. He’ll reinstate the health mandate the moment after his repeal of Trump’s tax cuts.

Brandeis said it all in his Olmstead dissent (1928), a dissent that has over the years become the prevailing 4th Amendment view,

“The makers of our Constitution undertook to secure conditions favorable to the pursuit of happiness. They recognized the significance of man’s spiritual nature, of his feelings, and of his intellect. They knew that only a part of the pain, pleasure and satisfactions of life are to be found in material things. They sought to protect Americans in their beliefs, their thoughts, their emotions and their sensations. They conferred, as against the Government, THE RIGHT TO BE LET ALONE — the most comprehensive of rights, and the right most valued by civilized men. To protect that right, every unjustifiable intrusion by the Government upon the privacy of the individual, whatever the means employed, must be deemed a violation of the Fourth Amendment.” (Capitals supplied)

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/277/438#writing-USSC_CR_0277_0438_ZD

He has “a plan that will work”?
Sing praises! An admission that obamalamadingongcare doesn’t work!
May I have my doctor back now?

    Arminius in reply to herm2416. | July 6, 2019 at 3:18 pm

    No, you may not. Thanks to the miracle of Obamacare and its perverse financial incentives your doctor has left the field of patient care and gone into the more lucrative line of scientific research. Which the gub’mint subsidezes, as opposed to patient care which the gub’mint penalizes.

    Which anyone with the IQ of a salamander could have predicted. Apparently there are a lot of salamanders voting in these U.S. of A. because the obvious liar Obama got elected twice.

    Apparently it’s unforgivable for Trump to lie about crowd size at various events than for Obama to lie while destroying entire service industries.

    But, the answer is no. You can’t have your doctor back. Your doctor is gone forever.

    Next question.

    The Friendly Grizzly in reply to herm2416. | July 6, 2019 at 6:14 pm

    Just like Nixon’s secret plan to win the Vietnam War.

      Umm…. Didn’t the Vietnam War end under Nixon? Or at least our active participation in it. Weren’t the S. Vietnamese doing well on their own until Ted Kennedy put the kibosh on continued material aid to that country under Ford?

The problem is progressive prices, not costs. The solution is not the first choice to “share responsibility”. The problem is also shared responsibility. The problem is Pro-Choice. As well as immigration reform that exceeds the rate of assimilation and integration before planned parenthood. The problem is social activism (e.g. sexual education) in lieu of education. That said, perhaps progressive corruption is so deeply embedded that there is no viable alternative to the status quo.

RandomCrank | July 6, 2019 at 1:44 pm

Be it government or private, some form of “individual mandate” is integral to the function of any insurance scheme.

    james h in reply to RandomCrank. | July 6, 2019 at 3:42 pm

    Private insurers cannot force you to buy their product.

      amatuerwrangler in reply to james h. | July 6, 2019 at 5:10 pm

      Oh? Have you tried to take out a mortgage to purchase a home? When you do you will find that the lender will require insurance (in their favor) just in case something happens to the house (collateral) before the loan is repaid.

      Another example might be operating a motor vehicle in many of the states. You are required to be insured at a level deemed adequate by the state.

      Yes, both these activities can be avoided, so the mandate to purchase insurance is somewhat optional.

        The Friendly Grizzly in reply to amatuerwrangler. | July 6, 2019 at 6:16 pm

        If I read his comment right, no individual private company can compel you to buy insurance. The bank may say you have to insure the collateral, which is reasonable. They cannot demand you use Acme Insurance ONLY.

          Also, the type of insurance you are talking about is for death or permanent disability. Vehicle insurance requirements generally devolve around liability. Neither requires comprehensive health insurance.

        artichoke in reply to amatuerwrangler. | July 7, 2019 at 7:34 am

        The reason for private mortgage insurance is to protect the value of the collateral to ensure it will pay off the mortgage.

        The reason for an individual mandate is to force the healthy to subsidize the sick.

        One reason has nothing to do with the other.

        Insurance always involves the unaffected subsidizing the affected. With health insurance, the unaffected will inevitably become the affected. Some people seem to be too foolish to realize that. In other cases where people are being foolish, they are required by government to act properly. There are laws against gambling. The question is whether the failure to purchase health insurance is one of those cases. I think it is.

          artichoke in reply to gibbie. | July 7, 2019 at 12:15 pm

          He healthy will not inevitably get HIV. You know that’s the reason the cost of the various care components under Obamacare cannot be calculated, right? The reason ONLY ONE TYPE of insurance could be priced and sold.

          So the cost of the HIV coverage could not be backed out of observed prices.

Not a fan of Biden, but he’s right about the individual mandate.

I consider the individual mandate far superior to the existing hospital mandate. If government is going to make somebody do something, it should choose logically. Providing horribly expensive emergency room and hospital care to people without health insurance is inefficient and ineffective, and it hides costs and makes it more difficult to implement market-based solutions.

It was a huge mistake to demonize the individual mandate. Now the demonizers will have a lot of explaining to do when they come to their senses.

    Milhouse in reply to gibbie. | July 7, 2019 at 2:16 am

    If you mean an actual mandate, rather than a tax on income that is waived for insured people, then you need to figure out which of Congress’s enumerated powers gives it the authority to do that.

      gibbie in reply to Milhouse. | July 7, 2019 at 9:03 am

      If we want a health insurance solution which is humane and financially feasible, somebody will have to figure it out. Perhaps you have a better idea.

        Milhouse in reply to gibbie. | July 7, 2019 at 9:26 am

        You have it backwards. If Congress has no authority to do something then it simply cannot do that thing, no matter how desirable you might think it.

        gibbie in reply to gibbie. | July 7, 2019 at 3:07 pm

        You have it inside out. If something needs to be done, we should do it. But we should do it according to the Constitution.

          rabidfox in reply to gibbie. | July 7, 2019 at 3:38 pm

          Where does the Constitution require the Federal Government to provide health insurance for anyone? I’d like to see the Section and Paragraph please.

          Milhouse in reply to gibbie. | July 7, 2019 at 3:50 pm

          It is impossible to do something “according to the constitution” that the constitution does not authorize. If you cannot locate in the constitution an authorization for Congress to do something, then it doesn’t matter how much it “needs” to be done, Congress cannot do it. The “need” must go unfilled. If that means the world will come to an end, then the world will come to an end.

    artichoke in reply to gibbie. | July 7, 2019 at 7:37 am

    We had the individual mandate for a few years, and emergency rooms didn’t get any cheaper. Maybe because we’re still subsidizing the off-the-books (illegal immigrant) population there.

    What does individual mandate have to do with emergency rooms? The healthy young people choosing to go without insurance surely made up a vanishingly small percentage of emergency room use.

    harleycowboy in reply to gibbie. | July 7, 2019 at 8:24 pm

    “…it should choose logically. ”

    That point makes your argument null and void.

Biden is so weird. The other D’rat hopefuls come across as scheming, pandering, manipulative, or just plain evil. But Joe seems genuinely confused, trapped in a world he just can’t understand.

    artichoke in reply to tom_swift. | July 7, 2019 at 12:13 pm

    He’s 80 years old trying to pass for 60. He could have done that 10 years ago, but now he’s really hitting some limits mentally and physically.

    He’s the class of the field as a politician. But he’s 80.

judgeroybean | July 6, 2019 at 2:10 pm

Kudos to person who realized Biden has held public office over 40 years and has been wrong on just about everything. Now Biden wants us to believe he’s finally going to get something right? Uh, good luck with that.

Joe would have been so much better off if he skipped this pathetic run for President and just kicked back and retired as an elder statesman of the democrat party. Why anyone at his age would even think of running, let alone being, President is crazy. It can’t be the money, it has to be the desire for raw power.

Never a good motive.

No surprise here. Remember, this is a guy who stood by a fascist traitor for eight long, frightening years.

caseoftheblues | July 6, 2019 at 2:31 pm

Biden is clueless and stupid but he might be the only one that’s not completely motivated by hatred of America and it’s citizens and a desire to burn it all down like the rest of them….

caseoftheblues | July 6, 2019 at 2:31 pm

Biden is clueless and stupid but he might be the only one that’s not completely motivated by hatred of America and it’s citizens and a desire to burn it all down like the rest of them….

Does that go for illegals also, Joe?

Elizabeth Warren is the elementary school teacher everyone hated and whose class we all dreaded being assigned to.
Kamala Harris is your angry ex that you’re forced to deal with constantly because of shared custody.
Joe Biden is the uncle you won’t let your daughter be alone with.
Bernie Sanders is the uncle you have to invite to Thanksgiving Dinner but you hope won’t show up.
Pete Buttigieg is your weird cousin that your parents forced you to play with.
Beto O’Rourke is the one night stand who seemed so charming at the bar but who women really regret spending the night with when they wake up in the morning.
Kirsten Gillibrand is the president of the Homeowners Association who is into everyone’s business and whose seemingly perfect children secretly hate.
Amy Klobuchar is the woman in front of you in the supermarket checkout line loudly berating the cashier and demanding to speak to the manager.
And Marianne Williamson is the pretty hippy girl you dated in college who you look back on wistfully and wonder what happened to but are afraid to google and find out.

    Actually, Williamson is the 60+ recovering acid junkie who has multiple divorces and whose longest relationship has been with her cats, but nevertheless gets paid to write a love advice column for some obscure online lefty website.

    artichoke in reply to puhiawa. | July 7, 2019 at 7:39 am

    No parody of Andrew Yang, who has qualified for the fall debates. Starting to take his chances seriously.

Gremlin1974 | July 6, 2019 at 3:00 pm

Why do I get the feeling that Bidens plan will involve fairy dust and unicorn farts?

I don’t know how much we conservatives are paying our operative(s) inside the Democratic National Committee but they’re worth every penny. And we clearly aren’t paying them enough.

Consider the position we’re in. Biden is technically correct when he says his healthcare scheme is “more popular” than any of the other Dem candidates.

It’s true!

But that’s like saying “your own children is “more popular” than starving to death. Renting a room in Vegas and murdering
54 people before killing yourself is “more popular” than taking flying lessons for six months and then flying commercial jets into the WTC and the Pentagon and killing over 3,000 people. And committing mass murder using ARs or jets is “more popular” than the systemic genocides committed by the Nazis, adherents of Islam, and commies which killed millions.

Yeah! Thank you Joe Biden for delivering us progress. The wolves are shedding their sheeps’ clothing. Whatever we’re paying our agents, we need to up it.

Don’t you love the Democratic party’s system?

1. Claim the free market has failed at something.
2. Legislate government intervention.
3. Have the government make things worse.
4. Blame capitalism.
5. More government intervention.
6. Utterly destroy things.
7. Tell the world this is proof we need to have a centrally planned economy run by the same “experts” which destroyed the old economy which was working pretty well until they got involved.
8. Create Alexandria Occasional Cortex.
9. Retire with your millions in bribe money.

Apparently we’re stooopid because we as a nation keep falling for it.

Individual Mandate?

Why?

Didn’t he raise his hand with all the other candidates to say he’s for scrapping the whole thing and making a single-payer Medicare-for-All?

I hope he’s the dem nominee. It’ll be a laugh a minute with gaffer Joe.

The individual mandate was as popular as the Black Death.

This schmuck stood by a traitor for eight years of financial and due process tyranny.

The middle class needs this a-hole like a country club needs michelle obama.

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