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Democrats Beginning ‘Impeachment Investigation,’ Asking for Grand Jury Information

Democrats Beginning ‘Impeachment Investigation,’ Asking for Grand Jury Information

“…we will do and consider what we have to consider including whether we should recommend Articles of Impeachment to the House.”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1MgCvhQaTk

Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee announced on Friday they will begin a formal “impeachment investigation” against President Donald Trump due to former Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s testimony.

Chairman Jerry Nadler said the Democrats will ask for grand jury information related to Mueller’s investigation. From Fox News:

Nadler called the grand jury materials “critically important” for their investigation. In the petition, Democrats on the committee noted that because Justice Department policies do not allow the prosecution of a sitting president, the House of Representatives is “the only institution of the federal government” that can hold Trump accountable.

“The House must have access to all evidence,” Nadler said. “We are exercising our constitutional authority. We are continuing the investigation of President Trump’s malfeasances, and we will do and consider what we have to consider including whether we should recommend Articles of Impeachment to the House. We may, we may not. It remains to be seen.”

Nadler hopes the Democrats will receive a swift decision in their favor from the court since they will tell the judge they plan to seek impeachment.

The investigation “will include polling material provided to the Russians by the former Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort as well as allegations Trump is violating the emoluments clause.”

The Democrats will also “pursue testimony from former White House counsel Don McGahn and will subject him to ‘jail time and fines,’ if he refuses.”

Nadler made the announcement even though Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi remains cautious. She told reporters that “the House pursues the impeachment of President Donald Trump will be made in a ‘timely fashion’ and denied the idea that she is trying to ‘run out the clock’ on the issue.”

She did not provide a timeline, but said that the House “will proceed when we have what we need to proceed – not one day sooner.”

While Pelosi comes across as one dragging her feet, she believes Mueller “confirmed” that Trump “obstructed justice.”

The Democrats also decided to move forward as the left turned against Mueller after his testimony. He did not provide any new information, came off as lethargic and forgetful, and told Congress over 200 times to refer to his report instead of answering questions.

Dan Balz wrote in The Washington Post that the Democrats can only beat Trump by winning the 2020 election. The New York Times had a podcast that discussed how the lawmakers wanted a political showdown, but Mueller “resisted.”

Nadler also said the committee would seek to enforce subpoenas for former White House Counsel Don McGahn, in another escalation of their anti-Trump probes.

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Apparently this is now officially Bizarro World.

Wasn’t Nadler there yesterday? I am certain that I saw him.

Does he actually believe what he says?

    Tom Servo in reply to Y2K. | July 26, 2019 at 4:24 pm

    Okay I read the article carefully, looked at a little background and now that I think I understand what’s actually going on it’s pretty comical. What Nadler is talking about is asking a Court to let him have the Grand Jury testimony, which he is not legally entitled to, because he *Might* open an impeachment inquiry in the future, and if he does he *might* then be allowed to ask for it.

    Well legally, that’s total nonsense, he’s guaranteed to lose. It’s not just wrong, it’s idiotic. But he knows that – so why do it?

    Because they are all about to take off for 6 weeks of vacation, and he doesn’t want his angry activist base saying they aren’t doing anything, so he’s whipped up this fake claim so he can say “see? we’re doing something! we’re doing something!!!” And then when his request gets tossed, as it will be, he will claim “Oh Trump bribed the Judge or we woulda won!!!” or something equally stupid.

    It’s all a giant fraud, and this time the marks are his own base.

    BerettaTomcat in reply to Y2K. | July 26, 2019 at 6:42 pm

    Mueller’s testimony before Congression committees was nothing more than a substanceless waypoint on the road to a baseless impeachment. Yesterday I cringed as most commentators on the Right proclaimed Russia Fraud ended by Mueller’s bumbling, but the Democrats got the soundbites they wanted, and the media will repeatedly broadcast them while conveniently ignoring the 99% of the testimony that was in Trump’s favor.

    The Russia Fraud will never end. The Left’s incessant fraudulent chant of “selected not elected” about Bush II ebbed after he won reelection in 2004. But, if Trump wins reelection next year, not even that will stop hostilities on the Left’s Russian Front.

Q: What’s the difference between lemmings and House Democrats?

A: Even some lemmings know when to turn away from the cliff.

Shucks, if Jerry Nadler was actually a secret GOP operative implementing a cunning plan to reelect Trump…what would he be doing and saying differently?

    Tom Servo in reply to MarkJ. | July 26, 2019 at 4:09 pm

    Remember when they were going to subject William Barr and Wilbur Ross to “jail time” for Contempt of Congress? And then they voted for them to be held in contempt? And then they sent a note over to the AG William Barr telling him to arrest William Barr, and he said, “go pound sand?”

    Funny, it seems like it just yesterday…

These idiots just can’t get enough of losing can they??

    Trump promised we would get tired of winning. He didn’t say anything about the Democrats and losing.

    Then again, I’m still not tired of winning, so…

Colonel Travis | July 26, 2019 at 3:19 pm

You’d think they’d want to at least tap the brakes on the stupid?

Nah. These are Democrats. Full throttle, baby.

So they think telling the court they are seeking impeachment – though they have not yet done so – is a magic key opening the door to any and all grand jury testimony in a case where charges have not been brought. I grant, a court can play along. However, I can only imagine the outcry if this had been done to Bill Clinton. Making up special rules for individuals, or particular offices of government, is a pretty dicey proposition.

After all, it isn’t as if Congress can’t call its own witnesses. It has done so for three long years. Now it wants to have the executive branch’s study notes too. Most schools would call that cheating.

    dystopia in reply to JBourque. | July 26, 2019 at 4:21 pm

    Actually they delay everything by this maneuver. The request will be litigated and ultimately decided by the United States Supreme Court. That will take years. After the 2020 election. At SCOTUS though there is no telling what Chief Coward John Roberts will do.

      Tom Servo in reply to dystopia. | July 26, 2019 at 4:26 pm

      And if they lose control of the House in 2020, then the next House can simply drop the case and *Poof!* it all goes away.

Paul In Sweden | July 26, 2019 at 3:21 pm

Is Congress/Nadler entitled to Grand Jury proceedings?

They hear the footsteps of the DOJ? One of their tools is distraction.

    TX-rifraph in reply to TX-rifraph. | July 26, 2019 at 3:38 pm

    Ask why they are doing what they are doing right now? Process. By any means necessary. Substance is how they distract us.

They know that even if they successfully impeach him, the Senate won’t remove him from office or do anything else against him.

The only purpose of this is fund raising. And it’s likely to work.

As is often the case with the Democrats and the Deep State, the process is the punishment. Smears and innuendos rule the day and no facts are to be seen.

Never underestimate the Democrats.
1 Just stealing an election keep recounting until you get the results you want.
2 Wait until a critical point in the general election and impeach. That would interfere with Trump’s ability to campaign.

    amatuerwrangler in reply to rightway. | July 26, 2019 at 8:56 pm

    This evening Pravda –oops, ABC news– said that 40% of Dems in the House are “pushing” for impeachment. The last time I looked, it took a majority in the House to impeach. Forty percent of the Dem caucus is far from a majority of the House. Where is the actual impeachment going to come from? Didn’t a run at it just a week ago fail miserably?

I feel that if I ever ran into Nadler in an airport (his head might hit my belly) I would have to suppress the urge to, well, you know.

    walls in reply to Obie1. | July 26, 2019 at 5:34 pm

    But you can verbally tease him … call him a fat pig … ask him when naked standing up, if he can see his d**k. He might even take a swipe at you, and you could sue!

What, Nadsler is serving up chipped beef on toast again?

To the extent that American politics is part of the entertainment industry, the D’rats are committing the worst of all sins—they’re becoming very boring.

JackinSilverSpring | July 26, 2019 at 4:55 pm

This is beginning to sound like a replay of Captain Ahab’s pursuit of the great white whale in Melville’s Moby Dick. As I recall, things did not turn out to well for Ahab.

Nadler? More like Nadless.

Dear Chairman Nadler,
You know we can’t legally give you what you’re asking for. Instead, we respectfully would like you to go pound sand.
Sincerely,
Judge Whatshisname

Nadler is such a slimy weasel.

PackerBronco | July 26, 2019 at 6:45 pm

We have to impeach Trump to find out what he’s guilty of.

Since Nadler’s feud with Trump is long-standing and apparently rooted in something completely irrelevant, the Democrats really should remove him from this cmte’s chairmanship.

The Friendly Grizzly | July 27, 2019 at 6:59 am

Will they find the key to the food locker? Will they find who took the strawberries?

Someone should get Fat Jerry a sandwich.

    erc in reply to MAJack. | July 27, 2019 at 12:52 pm

    Daughter worked one summer on the Hill for Chris Cox.

    The staff referred to eating or going to eat as “doing a Nadler”.

Impeachment sunk like a stone, when Mueller was forced to concede that his team found insufficient evidence to prosecute Trump for obstruction. That right there guarantees that no impeachment charges will ever result in conviction. That is the reason why Mueller hinted at the OLC opinion that the DOJ could not indict a sitting President was part of the reason why he did not proffer charges. But, the official Sc’s report does not say that. It states that the SC’s team could not reliably state that Rump, or anyone else committed obstruction.

What Nadler is doing is attempting to find some obscure testimony which can be spun to claim Trump violated the law or to otherwise embarrass him, prior to election. The Dems have NO election strategy for 2020, except Orange Man Bad.

    Mac45 in reply to Mac45. | July 27, 2019 at 1:12 pm

    ” It states that the SC’s team could not reliably state that Rump, or anyone else committed obstruction” should read:

    “It states that the SC’s team could not reliably state that Trump, or anyone else, committed obstruction. Nadler knows that he can not have the Grand Jury testimony, so he will use that claim that as the reason for no impeachment.”

    Sorry.

      Barry in reply to Mac45. | July 27, 2019 at 3:00 pm

      Exactly. Just rubbish to fool the prog fools. Works though. Those people are dumber than a pile of horse puckey.

It is sad but I think what I read and the reactions we are going to have a civil war. The military will have to make up their minds where to stand. I believe that most will stand with the rebellion and the people. The dems are going to keep pushing until we someone fires the first shot, Concorde. I don’t understand anyone listening to there lies. Everything they are doing has been done before so just read history and wake up before the blood starts to flow.
I know it would be proper to Capitalize dems but they don’t deserve the respect so I won’t capitalize.

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