I appeared tonight on Tucker Carlson Tonight to talk about the massive jury verdict against Oberlin College in the Gibson’s Bakery lawsuit.

I had talked about the case previously on Tucker’s show, on May 13, 2019, after the trial had started, but long before the verdict.

Tonight we knew the result, and it was a victory for the Gibsons.

This was an unusually long segment, demonstrating the importance of the case to Tucker. He spoke for about 3 minutes then I got 3 minutes. In case you were wondering, 3 minutes for a guest in primetime on the most popular cable news network is a long time. I appreciate the opportunity.

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Tucker: What do you think, having watched this from the first day to the last, what do you think the message the jury was sending was?

WAJ: I think that the message the jury was sending is that all lives matter, frankly. That the lives of the Bakery, the lives of people who get up at 3 in the morning to cook the baked goods that the students eat in the dining halls matter just as much as anybody else. And the truth matters. Because these are people, as you’ve pointed out, who did nothing wrong. They literally were just minding their business that morning [sic – it was late afternoon] when they called the police on some shoplifters.

And because of the crazed social justice, so-called social justice movement on our campuses, they were immediately designated an oppressor, in part because of their skin color, in part because they’re the owner of a business, and they were put into a pigeonhole of someone who must be racist, who must have engaged in racial profiling. And nobody seemed to actually care about the facts, that these are students actually did shoplift. And I think that’s what’s so outrageous about it.

I think you noted it in your opening, that these are just ordinary people. These are not people who are engaged in the political process. They didn’t put themselves  out into the arena. This is not like the other social media mobs we’ve heard about, where someone sends out a tweet, or post something on Facebook, and all of the sudden there’s a mob against them. That’s bad enough. These are literally people who got up probably at 3 in that morning, and did absolutely nothing wrong. But that campus fervor, and that campus zeal to express some sort of outrage at the system, visited them. And I think that’s the thing that’s so chilling here.

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… The important thing here is that, I don’t think Oberlin College got the message. In their closing statement to the jury as to why the shouldn’t get punitive damages, the Oberlin College attorney said, we’ve gotten the message, you sent a message loud and clear. I don’t think for a second Oberlin College has gotten the message. Just today, the president sent out an all-campus email saying they’re going to continue to fight this, and they believe they did nothing wrong. So I think this is really an outrageous circumstance.

Let’s remember, this is a 5th-generation bakery. These are the people who get up at 3 and 4 in the morning [to go to work] when Oberlin students are just getting home.

And I think that’s the outrageous think about this. This can happen to anybody, it’s not just a campus phenomenon.

UPDATE 6-16-2019

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