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MSNBC Chris Hayes conspiracy theory: Trump economy surging because businesses undermined Obama

MSNBC Chris Hayes conspiracy theory: Trump economy surging because businesses undermined Obama

How quickly MSNBC moved from blaming the Russians for everything to blaming millions of business owners.

There was no media figure more humiliated and shamed by the actual facts about the supposed Trump-Russia conspiracy than MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow.  She was all-in on the Russian conspiracy, collusion, Manchurian candidate fantasy.  All. In.  Night after night she regaled her audience with her tinfoil hat conspiracy theories, and they lapped it up.

Her ratings soared, she became a “big name,” and then it all went south when the Mueller report was released.  Her breathless, studious assaults on logic and common sense flamed into ash.  There was no collusion, no conspiracy, no Russian puppet in the White House.

Her tinfoil crown askew, her ratings plummeting, Maddow clings desperately to her fantasy . . . while her protege Chris Hayes eyes her tinfoil topper with covetous relish.

Hayes has detailed his latest conspiracy theory on Twitter, and it goes like this:  the only reason the Trump economy is strong is that millions of business owners conspired to go bankrupt to make the economy tank under Obama.  They were all in on it!  Millions of American business owners destroyed their financial lives, their families’ well-being, to discredit Obama.

You can’t make this stuff up.

Breitbart reports:

Hayes has an actual “theory” about an actual “conspiracy” involving millions (literally) of business owners secretly plotting to damage Barack Obama and benefit Trump.

In trying to explain why the economy has roared back to life under Trump, Hayes told his nearly two million Twitter followers this [emphasis added]:

Lots of regular people – critics, bloggers, gadflies, etc were able to see this but the commanding heights of the econ/policy/political worlds either could not or would not.

Or, an even less charitable interpretation: they didn’t get it wrong at all. They didn’t want full employment, they didn’t want wage growth and empowered workers and they certainly didn’t want that happening under a Democratic president.

I mean, years of the titans of industry whining about the skills mismatch, how they can’t find good workers, and chin-stroking conferences about labor force participation, and columns about how it was workers’ own fault, on and on and on, all just garbage.

Come close. Hear some truth.

This is how it happened, y’all…

When Obama was president, when Barry the Democrat was president, when a BLACK! man was president, millions and millions and millions of businesses got together, using Skype or something, and colluded to keep the economy down.

Oh and, according to Hayes, economists and (presumably) the media were also in on this enormous, impossible conspiracy.

Needless to say, this tinfoil hattery was met with facts, ridicule, and contempt.


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regulus arcturus | May 4, 2019 at 6:10 pm

These people are mentally defective.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to regulus arcturus. | May 4, 2019 at 7:00 pm

    Everyone is crazy except thee and me, and sometimes I wonder about thee.

    It is interesting how groups reinforce their collective psychosis.

    Whatever our problems are with government, those problems are mild when compared African and Latin American countries. If we do not succeed in stopping this multifront invasion of America, then we can expect our governance to degrade and our national average IQ decline, and with those, prosperity and competitiveness will also decline.

    Well, they are narcissists.

    This guy would rather we all die than admit to anyone (let alone himself) that he’s wrong about the political nonsense he’s been spewing like a fool.

    Imagine him looking in the mirror, and realizing a staunch defender of nose-picking affirmative-action contrivance of the most pathetic order – a guy so incompetent, hayes wouldn’t hire him to run a hot dog stand – was looking back.

    willford2 in reply to regulus arcturus. | May 5, 2019 at 12:36 pm

    MORONIC(super)IMBECILES on TV. That is why TV is garbage.

She is so confused that she doesn’t even know she is a female.

Eastwood Ravine | May 4, 2019 at 6:24 pm

I’m not into defending Chris Hayes at all, but what he is saying is basically the counterpoint to the argument that lots of businesses and entrepreneurs went into bunker mentality mode to try to survive the Obama years.

What he views as an intent to harm Obama and Democrats was in fact businesses trying to survive the Democrat’s economic agenda of “you didn’t build that”, “you can keep your doctor”, “there will never be growth above 2% ever again”, etc…

And don’t get me started about his obtuse psychological projection. If Democrats could sabotage and halt the Trump economy in the lead-up to 2020, they would.

    WestRock in reply to Eastwood Ravine. | May 4, 2019 at 6:47 pm

    Our GDP is not 3.2%, consumer spending is down! Obama was right. What all you loonies don’t realize is that Trump has colluded with the Russians and the Chinese to pump trillions into our economy to make it look good. Then after he gets re-elected all women will lose their rights, people will die, and Alcoa will be the only company to profit. I’m moving to Canadia, suckers!!

      txvet2 in reply to WestRock. | May 4, 2019 at 9:15 pm

      You need to use an /s flag, or everybody thinks you’re serious.

        Barry in reply to txvet2. | May 4, 2019 at 10:29 pm

        “or everybody thinks you’re serious”

        It’s impossible to tell, is it a lefty and serious or parody?

          WestRock in reply to Barry. | May 5, 2019 at 5:59 am

          I was just getting ready to ask if you are all serious, can anyone be so crazy, and I had to stop myself. Obviously this Chris Hayes character, the rest of CNN, and a good (bad?) percentage of the country are crazy for believing all this nonsense. Either this guy is nuts or he and his ilk are fishing – dropping the most ludicrous theories out there and waiting to see who bites.

          I think Wall Street said it all in the few days leading up to the election of President Trump, the day after, and the last two+ years. The market reflects optimism, IMO.

      rdm in reply to WestRock. | May 5, 2019 at 6:19 am

      Political satire is dead, because it is now impossible to tell the difference between said satire and real democrat beliefs.

      harleycowboy in reply to WestRock. | May 6, 2019 at 11:08 am

      If you’re really serious about moving I will buy you a one way ticket but you have to give up your citizenship and passport and vow to never set foot in this country again.

    No one goes into a bunker for eight years: business people figure how to make money even in bad times. When you choke business with the regulation and lawsuits obama/jarrett foisted on them (and all the while traitorously giving aid, conform and cash to our enemies), there’s not much room for business to flourish (except government-paid corrupt businesses, like the fake solar companies obama/jarrett paid trillions to.

    Obama is a traitor. He is also a mere organ grinder monkey. The organ grinders who had him on a leash impliemented the policies that so damaged our nation so badly, financially and morally.

    Here’s to Chris Hayes: you’re an idiot.

    Sanddog in reply to Eastwood Ravine. | May 5, 2019 at 11:48 am

    A lot of businesses went into “bunker mentality” when the economy crashed so that we could save our businesses. When conditions improved we carefully expanded once again. The alternative was to lose everything. It certainly wasn’t done to spite Obama, it was a direct result of economic conditions.

Don’t worry. No one actually believes that stuff. Not even the lunatic who said it. It’s just part of the job. Being a Liberal in the media means constantly thinking up even crazier things to say than you (or anyone else) said yesterday.

It’s just like being a professor of Studies, only without the whole tenure thing.

    Barry in reply to irv. | May 4, 2019 at 10:38 pm

    “No one actually believes that stuff.”

    Only about 40% of the country anyway. They’re all nuts.

    CorkyAgain in reply to irv. | May 4, 2019 at 11:10 pm

    Are you sure about the tenure thing? When have any of these people lost their jobs for saying stupid things? And if they have, how long did it take for them to land another cushy position with some other left-wing outfit?

    It seems that once you’re in the club, and as long as you do the Party’s bidding, you’re taken care of for life.

      Milhouse in reply to CorkyAgain. | May 5, 2019 at 1:19 am

      When have any of these people lost their jobs for saying stupid things?

      Joy Karega. Ward Churchill. Kenneth Storey. Lisa Durden. There are more.

Makes sense to me … I mean, sometimes we react involuntarily to things we don’t like. For example, men often clench when visiting the proctologist. Perhaps the economy reacted similarly under Obama.

inspectorudy | May 4, 2019 at 6:34 pm

What we are hearing from is 1% of the Demorat party and they are bonkers! Trump is a shoo-in if these ass wipes keep up this nonsense. I simply can’t see how this fool can make a living with the stuff he spouts. Who would believe him or want to hear from him again after reading this crap?

    No, they are the majority of the Democratic Party, it’s just that most of them have enough self control to keep quiet to keep trying to con the normies instead of giving up the game.

This has to be some kind of mental defect. Can people really be this stupid?

Voice_of_Reason | May 4, 2019 at 6:45 pm

Chris Hayes? He has a show on msnbc?

Huh. Who knew.

Where do those MSNBC people get their eyeglass frames? I wonder if they all come from the same Retro-Awful boutique.

    gospace in reply to tom_swift. | May 4, 2019 at 7:39 pm

    I had to scroll up and look. In boot camp (and after) we referred to eyewear like that as birth control glasses. No way was someone of the opposite sex going to be seen with you.

The only reason we didn’t see this headline in The Onion of The Babylon Bee is because satire has to have some basis in truth.

Nuking your own business to spite Obama…

Hottest take today

JusticeDelivered | May 4, 2019 at 7:10 pm

The problem with claims that business was foregoing profits to snub Obama is that businesses exist for profit. When they sacrifice short term profit it is virtually always to increase long term profit.

This guy is a great example of the useage of the word ‘schmuck,’ in describing someone as a dumbass.

This dovetails right in with Obama taking credit for the Trump economy…on wait. It doesn’t. Opposite. Hmmmmm

Let me fix that for you Chris:

After escaping the oppressive Obama regime of “you didn’t build that”, Trump economy surging.

Thanks for playing.

Comanche Voter | May 4, 2019 at 7:59 pm

Chris Hayes is what happens when Pajama Boy grows up (and puts on black hornrim glasses to make us think he’s smart). Then he drops about a quarter pound of the finest LSD, smokes a couple of kilos of righteous ganja, and then steps up to the microphone.

He’s clueless and rather stupid little shmuck.

Silly me! I thought the economy was terrific under Obama. For eight years all of the Very Best Experts (TM) assured me of this.

At any rate I don’t think Hayes’ latest conspiracy theory will work. So I predict that sometime this summer the MSM/DNC axis will fall back on the old standby of Worst Economy Since The Great Depression (TM).

Close The Fed | May 4, 2019 at 8:51 pm

And the left puffs up, claiming it’s the smart set.

What a joke.

Obviously, the bizarre 9/11 conspiracy theory that involved the FBI, the CIA, the US Air Force and the insurance/pension giant, TIAA-CREF taking down the towers for the insurance money, has a better chance of being true.

Chris seems to have missed the memo. He’s supposed to be reporting that all of the growth under Trump is just the continuing result of Obama’s economic genius, and that as soon as Trump’s actual policies take hold, we’ll have another recession, preferably by the end of 2019.

Had businesses owners actually sabotaged the big O, it would have been the GREATEST rebuke of Obama’s socialism that could have ever occurred.

Obama told one aide: ‘I’ve got the economy set up well for him. No facts. No consequences. They can just have a cartoon’.
When one’s head is so far inside the zipper of their deity’s pants it is hard to see outside one’s experience. That describes Chris as best I can.

June 8, 2018
Cheery economic data “should not blind us to the harsh reality facing most Americans,” said The Nation’s editor and publisher, Katrina vanden Heuvel, in a column in the Washington Post.

“America is a wealthy country with millions of struggling people,” she said. “Compared with their peers in other industrialized nations, Americans live shorter, more stressful, less healthy lives while working longer hours with fewer vacations. Our stunning decline in life expectancy is largely because of diseases of despair — addiction, suicide and depression.”

Trump’s policies only make the real problem — income inequality — worse, vanden Heuvel said. And the “next downturn will erase what gains there have been and leave most Americans in worse straits. For all of his ‘America First’ bluster, Trump’s misplaced priorities will only add to the misery.”

Gremlin1974 | May 4, 2019 at 10:59 pm

Chris Hayes has always reminded me of the nice guy who they eventually discover the bodies of all the people he has eaten under his house or the like.

Lunatic Fringe – I know you’re out there
You’re in hiding, and you hold your meetings
I can hear you coming, and I know what you’re after
We’re wise to you this time we won’t let you kill the laughter

Lunatic Fringe – in the twilight’s last gleaming
This is open season, but you won’t get too far
‘Cause you got to blame someone for your own confusion
We’re all on guard this time against the Final Solution
all on guard this time

Well, Democrats/the Left have demonstrated how they could screw up a sure thing election. Then they demonstrated how they could screw up two and an half years worth of an investigation to discover nothing that was put in place for any legal reason. Then we discover that they were incapable of running a basic economy for eight years. Was are also witnessing how they could completely mess up our college educational system as well as our judicial system. Now they are expecting us to believe this nonsense and still allow their news media to have any credibility? To think they think they can win the next election speaks volumes to their optimism and their view of the average voter’s IQ.

Let’s not forget the noble sacrifice of all those college students who, under Obama, deliberately wrecked their career by taking ‘studies’ courses instead of STEM. How selfless of them to render themselves forever unemployable – and take Obama’s federal grant money while doing so! – just to keep the employment numbers from looking good.

The Right Wing is proud of the way that business and the universities worked together in the long campaign against Obama.

Progressives who believe that “the ends justify the means” have no problem with lying.

Anyone with half a brain knows that Obama undermined business owners, not the other way around.

I closed my business under Obama because it was not making money, not because I wanted to undermine Obama.

How dumb can people become. Here’s my theory: Because of government stupidity installing business crushing policies many business’s hunkered down to wait out the storm of socialism until better days.

Now, the storm has passed and businesses can make profits, increase wages, add new employees and grow their businesses.

This is capitalism, not socialism disasters such as you see in Russia, Cuba and Venezuela. Where would you prefer to live and work?