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Measles Reported at Google’s Silicon Valley Headquarters

Measles Reported at Google’s Silicon Valley Headquarters

The America Medical Association recently slammed Google for promoting anti-vaccination misinformation.

As the number of reported measles cases escalates across the US, it is interesting to note that a case of the highly contagious disease has hit a Big Tech headquarters.

Google employees may have been exposed to measles after a San Mateo resident diagnosed with the virus “spent some time” at the Mountain View headquarters within the last couple of weeks, health officials said.

Dr. Sara Cody, Santa Clara County health officer and public health director, would not confirm whether the San Mateo resident was an employee of Google.

“The person was a resident of San Mateo county, but the exposure occurred in Santa Clara (County), so we took the lead of ensuring that anyone in Santa Clara county got proper follow,” Cody said at a press conference Wednesday.

Buzzfeed reported that a physician at Google sent a letter to employees notifying them that a worker who had visited the tech giant’s office at 1295 Charleston Road on April 4 had recently been diagnosed with measles.

The America Medical Association recently slammed Google for promoting the proliferation of anti-vaccination misinformation.

The nation’s most influential physician organization on Wednesday sent a letter to the CEOs of Amazon, Facebook, Google, Pinterest, Twitter and YouTube expressing concern that their respective internet media channels are spreading false information about the safety and efficacy of vaccines, and as a result have been driving parents to not immunize their children.

On a more serious note,lLast week, I reported that New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio declared a measles emergency, and force  parents to vaccinate their children under the threat of fines. An Anti-vaccination group is suing New York City for the mandate.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr. of the Children’s Health Defense filed a lawsuit Monday against the city’s Department of Health and Human Hygiene for pushing the mandate. Kennedy Jr., a noted environmental activist and attorney, is calling for a temporary restraining order, labeling the mandate “capricious, contrary to law” and exceeding “lawful authority.”

“Rather than using available legal mechanisms such as isolation or quarantine under Public Health Law §2100,” the lawsuit reads, “respondents have imposed not only severe criminal and civil penalties for not vaccinating but have stated that persons not vaccinated ‘shall be vaccinated against measles,’ thus introducing the specter of unjustifiable forced vaccination to Williamsburg and the City of New York.”

To highlight just how serious a case of measles can be, a flight attendant in Israel is now in a coma after being infected with the virus.

Israeli health officials told CNN that the 43-year-old woman has encephalitis, or inflammation of the brain, and has been in a “deep coma” for 10 days. She is unable to breathe on her own and is on a respirator.

The measles virus, though most well-known for its telltale rash, can cause serious complications. Such complications are most common in children younger than 5 and adults over 20, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC).

It is important to note that the Israeli woman received only one dose of the measles vaccine as a child. Adults who received only one dose of the measles vaccine as children should consider getting a second dose; the second dose has been standard practiced since 1989, when it was determined it substantially enhanced immunity against the disease.

Finally, an epidemic of the highly contagious disease is raging in Madagascar. Over 100,000 cases have been reported, and there has been over 1200 deaths.

Madagascar is currently facing the largest measles outbreak in its history, as cases have grown beyond 115,000, according to AP.

Only 58 percent of people on the main island have been vaccinated against the disease, a huge reason for its recent spread. The World Health Organization (WHO) reported the outbreak has impacted mostly children under the age of 15 since it began in September. AP says more than 1,200 people have died over the past seven months.

The World Health Organization is now working to vaccinate over 7 million children in the island nation, and it appears the rate of new infections is slowly decreasing.

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No if only there were a vaccine to wipe out the scourge of socialism

Couldn’t happen to a better group of people…

Inconceivable! The REAL story is that someone at Google must have downloaded and opened an unknown file attached to their Gmail account….

So, an Israeli airline stewardess contracts measles and is in a coma. She had been previously vaccinated. And the take away from this is that people who are not vaccinated are to blame? Give it a rest.

The MMR vaccine was sold to the world as providing universal, life-long immunity to measles. Well, we now know that it does not do either. So, is there an uproar over the misinformation which the medical and vaccine industries have been peddling for decades? Nope. The uproar is against those evil, selfish people who do not get vaccinated. Somehow, the fact that the MMR vaccine requires a booster every decade, or so, in order to provide continuing protection, something which the manufacturers and the medical industry failed to mention to the rest of us, is unimportant, as long as everyone is vaccinated by a vaccine which only provides immunity for 10-20 years.

What the CDC, and other health care organizations are finding is that adults are suddenly contracting measles, even though they have been vaccinated, some receiving two doses. What this suggests is that the immunity granted by the vaccine wanes over time. On the other hand, there is no evidence that the immunity gained by contracting wild measles wanes. But, as more vaccinated adults contract the disease, the health services are desperately trying to find a reason, which will not call into question thee effectiveness of the vaccine. These organizations are actively trying to protect the vaccine industry. That is why many countries have laws which prohibit, or severely limit the liability of vaccine producers.

Vaccines, if administered properly, are good. But, they are not a panacea. They have limitations and deleterious side effects. It is a good idea to investigate exactly what your doctor is putting into your body.

    Mercyneal in reply to Mac45. | April 19, 2019 at 8:03 pm

    Hogwash.

      JusticeDelivered in reply to Mercyneal. | April 20, 2019 at 2:32 pm

      Many vaccines need to be repeatedly administered. Nothing is forever. People who are not vaccinated should probably not be allowed on aircraft. Air handling equipment on aircraft should probably use UV C type bulbs to kill bacteria and viruses in recirculated air. Both my home and office have UV C bulbs in the airstream.

        Really? Are you going to have to show papers showing your vaccination history to leave your house? This is easily the most outrageous thing that I have ever heard. It is one thing to deny entry to someone who displays visible signs of an illness, but to make a seemingly healthy person produce documentary evidence of vaccination before they can board a public conveyance is ridiculous. Next you will demand that people produce a current shot record to enter the grocery store, movie theater, a restaurant, the courthouse or be subject to being stopped on the street and forced to produce their “papers” because they are in “public”.

        And, over measles? Do you know if the man sneezing in the seat next to you is HIV positive or even has full blown AIDS? How about tuberculosis, pneumonic plague or a score of other diseases? This measles scare is nothing more than an orchestrated fear campaign aimed at forcing people to be vaccinated. Nothing else. It is just like the campaign used to attempt to ban high capacity semi-automatic rifles. It is all a sham. Yet, normally intelligent people go along with this as if it were all real. Incredible.

    BobM in reply to Mac45. | April 19, 2019 at 8:58 pm

    Agreed, hogwash.
    (1) I have no knowledge about the MMR vaccines being sold as “guaranteed life-long immunity”, but i doubt it could be guaranteed. They may have hoped it was one and done, but the only way to know for certain how long a vaccine confers immunity is to use it on a large sample population and wait a few decades.
    (2) Your first para glosses over the question of how (and from whom) the stewardess caught the disease in the first place. Even if lacking total immunity, vaccines still help resistance. A population that is not immune to but is more resistant to [A] is not the primary vector for a disease, even if they can still catch it, the primary vector is the population lacking even limited resistance – ie those not vaccinated, whether due to backwardness, laziness, or buying into vaccine conspiracy theories.
    (3) even if contacting “wild” Ebola would confer life-long immunity while a possible vaccine would only protect you for (say) a decade, allowing yourself to catch it to save spending $X on a vaccine every ten years wouldn’t appeal to me. Or anyone sane. Granted, measles isn’t as deadly as Ebola, but I’d just as well prefer myself or my family members not to risk the brain damage, going sterile, or other bad things measles can cause, up to and including death.

      Mac45 in reply to BobM. | April 19, 2019 at 10:30 pm

      To your points, bob:

      1) Back in the late 1980s, the vaccination schedule did not call for two mandatory doses of MMR vaccine. One was sufficient. Why? Because it is really a very effective single dose immunization agent, for initial immunity. It is 90-95% effective. It wasn’t until later that a second vaccination was recommend a second MMR vaccination before entry into kindergarten or 1st grade. Now, even the CDC admits that young adults, who have not had a wild measles infection, may not have effective immunity. The reason is probably because the vaccine uses a weakened strain of the virus. The medical community has known for the last 15 years, that adults, who had the MMR vaccine as children, have been contracting measles and mumps. But, they did not widely distribute that information. Now, with the push-back against the movement to restrict or elongate the vaccination schedule, these cases are being used to blame it all on a suspected unvaccinated carrier. Rather than admit that there is just as good a chance that adult’s immunity has waned, it is being suggested that no immunity was ever established to begin with [the adult was one of the 5-10% who do not gain immunity from a single dose of the vaccine]. That the adult managed to live for 18+ years and never contracted the disease, especially if one is an international flight attendant. The chance of that happening are pretty close to zero.

      2) You are describing the “herd immunity” theory, here. The biggest flaw in that theory is that, in order for herd immunity to be established, under the theory, the population has to have achieved a nearly one hundred percent lifetime immunity rate. And, NO vaccine can guarantee that. In the real world, this homogeneously immune population does not exist. So, sub-populations have a greater percentage of immune members than do other sub-populations.

      Now, the reason one gets vaccinated is to protect oneself contracting a disease carried by another. If the vaccine does not protect one from that eventuality, then it is of limited usefulness. Vaccines are not meant to protect the unvaccinated from contracting a disease. And a vaccinated person CAN be a vector for a disease, even if that person does not have serious, or any, symptoms.

      3) I’m glad that you took the time to point out that measles is hardly in the same galaxy, let alone the same class as Ebola. You make the common mistake that most people who do not vaccinate their child do it because they do not want to spend the money. Nothing could be farther from the truth. What they are concerned about is the increased onset of disorders in the autism spectrum which appear in healthy children, coincidental to their receiving certain vaccinations. Now, studies have been done with regard to the possibility that the MMR vaccine is somehow involved in this. these studies have shown that the MMR vaccine is most likely NOT affiliated with the rate of autism, as that rate does not change, when the vaccine is withheld. However, what these studies do not take into consideration is that, in most cases, the other vaccines on the schedule are still administered. This has led to the question of whether the administration of the other vaccines, especially in the so called mega vaccines [some having as many as 30 vaccines administered at the same time], may be responsible. No investigations into this have been done, to date. And, as you know, autism is for life. So, some parents choose to limit the number of vaccines administered at a given time, to avoid this potentiality. But, it is difficult to find pediatricians who will spread out the vaccinations and it is becoming more difficult to find vaccines other than the multiple dosage units. Then you have a certain segment of the population which simply do not want the vaccinations.

      As to avoiding brain damage, sterility and death, by getting an MMR vaccination, those are all side effects of the vaccine itself; along with a slew of others. So, you have to ask yourself if the odds of being afflicted by these results from a wild strain of measles is significantly greater than from a vaccine version of the disease.

      Once again, people have to ask themselves why the big push back against reduced vaccinations. If vaccination will protect the person vaccinated from contracting a disease, it should not matter if the rest of the world is vaccinated or not. Right? Yet, the fact that a very small minority of people are not vaccinated is being treated as though we are all going to contract these diseases, whether we are vaccinated or not. I fail to see the logic inherent in that.? Yet, there is something driving this. And, that something is usually money. Now, who benefits

      So, for those of us who are vaccinated, providing that the vaccine is really effective, what’s the big deal?

      There is nothing wrong with being vaccinated, if it is done safely. And, there is nothing wrong with being revaccinated or having boosters, if necessary. However, in order to have those boosters, one has to know that they are necessary.

        JusticeDelivered in reply to Mac45. | April 20, 2019 at 6:33 pm

        ” it should not matter if the rest of the world is vaccinated or not. Right?”

        Wrong, it is about stopping rapid spread, epidemics. If enough of the population is immune, then rapid spread is unlikely. So it is not about protecting one person.

          You are quoting the herd immunity theory again. Let me state, once more, this is JUST A THEORY and not a very good one.

          If the objective of being vaccinated is to stop a specific person from contracting a specific disease, then an effective vaccine should do just that. This means anyone vaccinated will not contract the disease and it will only spread through the unvaccinated population, leaving the vaccinated population untouched. With me so far? Good.
          So, this is not about the well-being of those who choose to be vaccinated, as they will not be effected by the disease due to the immunity imparted by the vaccine. It is about power and money. Certain people in the medical community came up with a theory that all disease would be eradicated if everyone was immune to all diseases. Sounds good, until reality crops up. First, large scale immunity apparently does not eradicate the existence of the disease organism, only reduce it. Second, vaccines are not 100% effective nor do they impart life-long immunity, but require some method of boosting the imparted immunity. Third, and this is the real kicker, disease organisms mutate and evolve. So, in the real world, all of these disease organisms are still waiting to infect people, if they do not have either naturally developed immunity through exposure to the wild organism or immunity generated by a vaccine. And, immunity can, and does wane, over time, especially if a person is not regularly exposed to the disease organism.

          What we are now finding out is that the human immune system creates antibodies to combat infectious diseases which invade the body. Once it has done that, it produces and releases these disease specific antibodies upon detecting a specific organism. In a natural environment, a person with immunity to measles should receive regular natural boosters as the body is constantly being invaded by the measles virus, which triggers the reflexive release of specific antibodies. However, while it has not been proven to be so, it is easy to postulate that as the exposure to a specific disease producing organism declines, so does the regularity of the immune system producing disease specific antibodies. Which, in turn, results in the waning of immunity to that specific disease. If such is the case, then it is possible to effectively eliminate a body’s immunity by making the environment too clean. It now appears that the people, who came up with the herd immunity theory, did not really understand the mechanism that they were dealing with.

          So, we come to today. Now, the vaccine industry is immense. And, it all depends upon people being vaccinated. In an environment where disease is common, people will often seek out vaccinations to forestall the possibility that they will contract a disease. In an environment where disease is rare, people will have to be forced to avail themselves of vaccination. What has happened is that a new “epidemic” has arisen; autistic disorder. And, the current timeline for the onset of these neurological disorders shows a close correlation with the vaccination schedule for children. This has caused people to either stop vaccinating their children or deferring vaccination. And, this does two things. It threatens the profits of the vaccine producers and it hinders the realization of the herd immunity theory upon which a large portion of current public health policies are based. The stop the spread of the reluctance of people to risk autism by foregoing the vaccination of their children, the industry has embarked upon a campaign of fer and force compliance through government action. This is heinous and show little regard for the individual.

          In an earlier comment you said the response here was incredible, but it’s not that incredible, Mac. Conservatives have a long history of faith in government; even as we wish it were smaller and less intrusive, we tend to believe in its worth and ethical/moral value . . . we just want it limited in scope and reach. Even as we have that faith chipped away decade after decade, it’s hard to get rid of those old ideas and beliefs. I think that’s what’s happening here (it happens with discussions of Monsanto/GMO’s on the right, too, btw). You won’t change any minds here, but it’s good to put your points out there for people to think about.

          There is there there in terms of the questions surrounding vaccines and autism. One of my favorite investigative journalists covered this issue in some depth, and while she didn’t come up with a definitive answer, Sharyl Attkisson raised important questions: https://youtu.be/1XUM2gvfbW8 She also provides some great links for people interested in further research on the matter: https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/02/vaccines-and-autism-why-the-debate-still-rages/

          Anyway, just adding my two cents . . . and we all know what two cents is worth these days. 😛

    I’ve heard the Patient Zero in Michigan was certain he’d had measles as a child and therefore could not have been infected, and ignored medical advice to the contrary.

    This is what happens when you treat vaccination as a political promise and not as a real-life issue of medical science, where there are few absolutes. And, knowing there are few absolutes, it’s still much, much better for civilization as a whole for a population to be vaccinated.

      Mac45 in reply to JBourque. | April 19, 2019 at 10:38 pm

      “And, knowing there are few absolutes, it’s still much, much better for civilization as a whole for a population to be vaccinated.”

      True. But, you usually have a different outlook when you have an autistic child, who requires very expensive life-long care, which may be the result of vaccine administration. And, when the vaccine and public health industries seemingly ignore this possibility, people are left to make a decision based upon insufficient information.

      This idea that sacrificing part of the herd, whether that part wants to be sacrificed or not, is a good thing, looks a whole lot different when you are being the one sacrificed.

        in-suhr-ect in reply to Mac45. | April 19, 2019 at 10:50 pm

        If autistic kids could, once adults, ask the world for three things, one of them would be for everyone to get the MMR shot. When a mother is exposed to Rubella during pregnancy, there’s a significant likelihood of autism in the child.

        Autism itself begins in the womb, although the outward appearance of it happens around age two. The vaccine-autism link has looong ago been debunked, it was pushed by an amoral huckster who wanted to profit from a slightly altered vaccine he was developing.

        There are ways to help most autistic kids, though there are no guarantees. But unless they also have auto-immunity or allergies relevant to vaccines, both somewhat more common among the autistic, then denying them their childhood vx shots just sets them up for more trouble later.

          AmandaFitz in reply to in-suhr-ect. | April 20, 2019 at 10:33 am

          I’m older and there was NOT a vaccine for measles when I was a child, so I had measles and chicken pox. The one thing I know is that my mother’s friend Gene Tierney (yes, the gorgeous actress who played “Laura”) had measles when she was pregnant with her first daughter, Daria, with Oleg Cassini. It was the tragedy of Gene’s life. Daria was born with serious mental handicaps and was institutionalized early on; she died a middle-aged woman. Gene told my mom that she had no idea how she had been exposed to measles until one day she visited with a fan who told her they’d met many years before (when Gene was pregnant with Daria) when Gene was in a Broadway play. The woman told Gene she’d gotten off her sick bed to come to the play because she was such a fan of the actress- Gene WEPT. I always felt so sad for Gene. She was a lovely lady and her other daughter, Tina, was my friend when we were young. There was always a sadness behind Gene’s eyes.

          If you’re not worried about measles for yourself or your child, so be it, but be compassionate about the risks you pose to other people.

          Mac45 in reply to in-suhr-ect. | April 20, 2019 at 1:35 pm

          This, of course the current “party line” on autism. However, it fails to make any sense, logically. While, autism spectrum characteristics can be caused by a pregnant woman suffering from rubella, they are demonstrated at the time of the child’s birth, not 2 years later, when the heavy vaccination schedule begins [see AmandFitz’s post about Gene Tierny]. And, to date, NO reasonable cause for these late on-set autism cases has been discovered. there is a statistical correlation between the schedule of childhood vaccines and the timing of the inset of late onset autism cases. Whether this indicates causation of the autism by a vaccine or a combination of vaccines is unknown, because no studies have been done on that subject other than those with regard to the MMR vaccine.

          As to treatment for autism, there is none. Most autistics will require permanent supervisory care, even high functioning ones. This presents not only a serious burden for parents, of the autistic while they are alive, but also for autism sufferer when they are gone. Autism is forever.

          The way one protects themselves from contracting rubella, while pregnant, is too receive am MMR vaccination and the required boosters, BEFORE pregnancy. This should grant the pregnant woman immunity from contracting Rubella, as well as pass limited immunity to the fetus. Vaccines are prophylactics. Their purpose is to make a vaccinated individual immune to a specific disease. So, if a person has been vaccinated, that person should not contract the disease, even if surrounded by people with active cases of the disease. I have a very hard time understanding why people can not grasp that concept. In WWII, troops were vaccinated against a wide range of communicable diseases found in other parts of the world. This was so that they did not contract those diseases. We did not demand that all the people living overseas get vaccinated against the same diseases, before our boys shipped out, did we? So, quit blaming the unvaccinated for vaccinated people contracting a disease. If the vaccine does not work, this is hardly the fault of the unvaccinated.

          Mac45 in reply to in-suhr-ect. | April 20, 2019 at 1:51 pm

          Amanda, why would you blame an unvaccinated person, if a vaccinated person contracts a disease? I keep coming back to this point and people seem to be missing it. The whole purpose of a person being vaccinated is so THAT PERSON does not contract a specific disease. If you do not wish to contract measles, whooping cough, polio, or a myriad of other diseases, have yourself vaccinated against them. The same is true of your child. If the vaccine works, as it should, then you should not have to worry about contracting any of these diseases.

          If the vaccinated population is immune to these diseases, why the big push to vaccinate everyone, even against their will? After all, because of THEIR vaccinations, the vaccinated population can not contract the disease. So, the only ones at risk are those who choose not to be vaccinated and they have chosen, or chosen for their children, to take that chance. I’m just not seeing why we are having all of this hype on this subject. I mean 1000 measles cases in a population of 330 million people is hardly an epidemic. So, why the big push? Who, exactly, benefits from this push to vaccinate everyone in the world?

        JusticeDelivered in reply to Mac45. | April 20, 2019 at 8:37 pm

        I am probably Asperger syndrome, my youngest daughter is, and so is my oldest grandson. It is quite common for people with Asperger syndrome to be geniuses, though there are many handicaps that come with it. often speech and language issues. Problems with phonics. There are a host of other issues, many of which may be do to IQ differences.

        Jews are noteable for high IQ, but there are deficiencies such as poor spacial reasoning.

        “Ashkenazi Jews had only mediocre visual-spatial intelligence, about IQ 98, while a 1958 study of yeshiva students found that their verbal IQ (which includes verbal reasoning, comprehension, working memory, and mathematical computation) had a high median of 125.6”

        People with Asperger often have fantastic visual-spatial reasoning.

The last time I had some lab work done, I noticed that the lab was doing a variety of tests at a very reasonable price and without a doctor’s order. No insurance filing and you go online to get the results. The measles antibody test is $53. The MMR screening is $128.

I recently found my first grade medical form. I had both German and “red” measles way back in 1958. MMR vaccine was not available at that time and since I had the measles,it was probably deemed not necessary.

My doctor suggested to just get the MMR shot, but the local pharmacy recommended getting tested first. Since I had a minor reaction to the first shingles shot, I think I am going in for the lab test.

Since the number of cases are increasing, I would suggest getting tested first and then update the vaccines, if needed.

Christopher B | April 19, 2019 at 8:57 pm

+1 Mercyneal

That was spoken like somebody who has never had anything worse than a hangnail. I’m going to go with the opinion of the people who had first hand experience with diseases like measles as a regular occurrence and figured that, whatever its faults, immunization was vastly preferable to people actually contracting them.

What’s lost in this discussion is the desperation to avoid these “childhood diseases.” Measles isn’t too bad, so long as you aren’t a pregnant woman with a baby to protect from retardation. There’s a kid in my family whose mother had the measles in early pregnancy. Well, he’s about 55, now, but he’s never lived on his own. He’s not an adult.

The reason we have vaccines in this country is because heartbroken parents demanded them.

    Mac45 in reply to Valerie. | April 19, 2019 at 10:42 pm

    “The reason we have vaccines in this country is because heartbroken parents demanded them.”

    No, the reason we have widespread vaccination, in this country, is because the state mandated them. Most states require vaccination for many childhood diseases before a child can enter public school. And, most of these vaccines came along when people still trusted doctors to actually know what they were talking about.

      Gunstar1 in reply to Mac45. | April 19, 2019 at 11:17 pm

      Or perhaps the parents urged state lawmakers to make it mandatory.

        Mac45 in reply to Gunstar1. | April 20, 2019 at 2:01 pm

        Perhaps. But, probably not. The vaccines for measles, mumps and rubella had been around for decades before they became mandatory. And, as they provided excellent initial immunity, anyone could have had themselves and their children vaccinated against those diseases. And,, the vaccinations were not prohibitively expensive. However, in the late 1980s, most states made it mandatory that all children have these vaccinations BEFORE they could enter public school. It is unlikely that parents, who had vaccinated their children and themselves, would have been haunting the offices of lawmakers to demand that other parents be forced to do the same thing. It is much more likely that a coalition of the drug lobby, the medical lobby and the public health lobby were pushing this. These sorts of actions are always the result of public outcry or money. And, in the absence of public outcry look for the money and follow it.

    Mercyneal in reply to Valerie. | April 21, 2019 at 6:43 am

    I had the bad measles (:as opposed to the German measles) and it IS bad. You sound as if you have never had it. Remember the fever and pneumonia I got when I had them as a five year old as if it were yesterday.

Will google have a new measles-ridden logo on its home page?

I am old enough to remember when there was no measles vaccine. Most of the kids in our school got the full round of what we called back then, “childhood diseases,” measles being right at the top of the list. I also remember that none of us died from it. I have a college degree, but am nowhere near being a doctor. This article says, “Finally, an epidemic of the highly contagious disease is raging in Madagascar. Over 100,000 cases have been reported, and there has been over 1200 deaths.” That’s a .12% rate of mortality in an area where poor nutricion and other factors must certainly play a negative role. Now I mentioned the education thing merely to avoid misrepresenting the value of an observation, coming not from some specialist nor from total ignorance. We got these “dreaded” diseases, lived through them, and seemingly developed a pretty mean immune system because of them. It seems like the generation who began to get all these disease preventing vaccinations catch every malady, both great and small, that comes down the pike for which they are not vaccinated (and some for which they are). I think that some of the real people killers like hepatitis, plague, and dengue ought to be really considered seriously, particularly when people are up to their navels in “people poop” as is the situation in SF. But over vaccination for every possible fever causing micro organism I suspect just may result in an immune system that never gets strong enough to protect us from anything. Also, with a mortality rate of one tenth of one percent (and that in a malnourished region), I have to wonder if the real motivation is not a concern for public well being, but rather for pharmaceutical company profit. I read of measles deaths in the far off regions, but in three quarters of a century I have yet to even meet someone who was even remotely associated with someone who actually died with measles as the primary cause. And now there is debate as to the possibility that the vaccine may have negative side effects. Personally, if measles won’t kill you, and may even be good for immune system developement, and the vaccine used to prevent measles maybe might have a capacity to handicap one for life, I’d rather have the measles (which I have).

Some of the smartest people are also the stupidest

    JusticeDelivered in reply to Neo. | April 20, 2019 at 8:54 pm

    I submit that most people cannot understand what it is like to be the smartest. It is both a blessing and a curse. I am dealing with an 11 year old grandson is is a genius, and it is hard for him. He is acquiring knowledge much more rapidly than normal, yet is still a child who wants friends yet has a difficult time fitting in.

    I have long suspected that much of the amosity directed towards Jews is driven by their being so smart and successful.

Somebody used the words “vaccine industry” and therein lies much of the problem. There are billions of dollars at stake in the vaccine industry. Measles was a relatively harmless childhood disease when i grew up. Many vaccines have proven to be cheap and very effective. They need to reexamine the production procedures.

    Mercyneal in reply to dunce1239. | April 21, 2019 at 6:39 am

    Measles was NOT a “relatively” harmless disease in 1960, when I got it. Contracted bad pneumonia. Stop spreading bad information.

Let me cut to the chase. The reason nobody in government or the PC world wants admit as to why there are outbreaks is because the outbreaks are coming from illegals entering our nation.

Notice, NOWHERE in this “the government demands you get a vaccine or a fine/jail will result” bull hockey is ONE government person like Schumer or dummy from NYC admitting that they willingly support the crossings of illegals from third world nations, which do not inoculate, into our nation. They are disease carriers.

In fact, we are seeing a resurgence of disease long though eradicated from the USA. TB, whooping cough, measles, small pox, deadly flu viruses, polio to name a few.

A few years back there was an outbreak of whooping cough in the NW. The doctors were all up in arms about this UNTIL they located the nexus of the outbreak – patient zero so to speak. The location? A group of central American illegals.

Suddenly nobody cared.

So screw the vaccine lobby supported by government. It’s not the problem, the problem is the exposure to things that were gone from us until the Leftist politics brought it back.

Not..one..word..about…diseases…on CNN.

assemblerhead | April 21, 2019 at 8:12 am

I had measles as a child. I had the chicken pox THREE times as a kid.

This anti-vax misinformation is destructive. Get the vax.

Save yourself / your child from certain misery.

Measles at google? What about treason?

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