Alan Dershowitz: Yes, Using the 25th Amendment to Oust Trump is an Attempted Coup
“a grievous offense against the Constitution”
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Andrew McCabe’s new revelations about high level meetings to discuss removing Trump have been described as an attempted coup. Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz says if the 25th Amendment was on the table, then it absolutely was an attempted coup.
He explained this on the Tucker Carlson show this week.
Bradford Betz of FOX News has details:
Alan Dershowitz: Ousting Trump via 25th Amendment is ‘clearly an attempt at a coup d’etat’
Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz on Thursday said the Department of Justice’s discussions to employ the 25th Amendment to oust President Trump– if true– amounted to an attempted coup.
Dershowitz appeared on Fox News’ “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” to give his take on former FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe’s descriptions of Justice Department meetings where he said officials discussed ousting the president.
“If [McCabe’s comments are] true, it is clearly an attempt at a coup d’état,” Dershowitz said.
Evoking the 25th Amendment, Dershowitz added, would be a fundamental misuse of its original purpose. He said it was originally “about Woodrow Wilson having a stroke. It’s about a president being shot and not being able to perform his office.”
Dershowitz said any justice official who discussed the 25th Amendment in the context of ousting the president “has committed a grievous offense against the Constitution.”
Watch the segment below:
Trump clearly appreciates the support. He is already quoting Dershowitz on this.
Caitlin Yilek writes at the Washington Examiner:
Trump quotes Alan Dershowitz saying consideration of 25th Amendment ‘despicable’
President Trump quoted Harvard Law professor Alan Dershowitz Thursday night to defend himself amid renewed talk that Justice Department officials weighed asking Cabinet members to consider invoking the 25th Amendment to remove the president from office.
“Any Justice Department official who even mentioned the 25th Amendment in the context of President Trump has committed a grievous offense against the Constitution,” Dershowitz told Fox New’s Tucker Carlson on Thursday.
“The framers of the 25th Amendment had in mind something very specific and trying to use the 25th Amendment to circumvent the impeachment provisions or to circumvent an election is a despicable act of unconstitutional power grabbing,” Dershowitz continued.
Here’s Trump’s tweet:
“Trying to use the 25th Amendment to try and circumvent the Election is a despicable act of unconstitutional power grabbing…which happens in third world countries. You have to obey the law. This is an attack on our system & Constitution.” Alan Dershowitz. @TuckerCarlson
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) February 15, 2019
That’s what all of this has been about. The Russia investigation, the daily outrages, etc.
Democrats, their allies in media, and their agents in the deep state tried to undo the results of the 2016 election.
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This Conspiracy will continue until people start going to prison.
And I don’t know if that will ever happen.
It won’t.
Outrageous.
This does not go unpunished.
Deep state won’t punish itself. GOP Congress critters are in on the scam as well. Short of pitchforks and torches I doubt anything will ever happen.
Then the country fragments and is lost.
Because treason pays, if you can get away with it.
I don’t like the Fox headline. Derchowitz is right to be outraged, but I’m far, far more focused on McCabe saying out loud that he ordered a preventative obstruction of justice investigation against Trump based on the possibility he might be a Sovi.. Russian agent, without probable cause but purely for political inoculation against the President possibly using his constitutional powers.
Mark Penn noticed, it would seem, but reaction to it has been thin so far, probably due to sheer disbelief.
The whole 25th Amendment thing was stupid anyway. How dumb could McCabe and others be to actually think they could get the Vice-President and a majority of the cabinet to sign off on this?
It almost worked on “Homeland,” or did it work? I was barely paying attention at the end.
They tried to use the 25th amendment as a subplot line in the movie “Airforce One” too. Only the President, played by Harrison Ford, was a lot tougher than the administration and the terrorists realized.
And in 24
So that’s it: these clowns watch way too much TV.
Seditious conduct should be punished in the most severe way. Those involved should face the wrath of justice due to their positions they held while plotting their coup. Prison isn’t sever enough for their crimes.
The statute for sedition repeats “through force” every half-sentence. However stupid this was, live-action role playing an invocation of the 25th amendment is not the crime of sedition.
It’s political activity on government time. You’d think the Hatch Act would punish something like that. But, no one could examine it because Sessions recused, Rosenstein did not, and Rosenstein was both a witness and a potential defendant. Isn’t Washington wonderful?
Yes, but we can get them for toxic waste dumping (polluting a Federally protected Waterway) because they have all taken dumps in the Men’s Room in the FBI Building. Believe me these guys were talking some toxic s**t.
Everyone involved should be considered, and treated as a traitor.
McCabe is looking a potential jail time for lying to the FBI/DOJ and leaking material to the press. To inoculate himself from that, he has now thrown Rosenstein and several currently unnamed members of the DOJ/FBI into what is a possible conspiracy to illegally remove the duly elected President without any legal grounds for even the contemplation of such action. Does the phrase, “If I go down, I’m not going down alone” ring any bells? This was nothing more than an attempt by McCabe to garner support to have any legal action against him quashed, while trying to make it look like he did this for patriotic reasons.
This is the real collusion that Mueller and the Justice Department should be investigating. We have high ranking FBI officials who colluded together to take the president down simply because they didn’t like him and also because they had hopped Hillary had won the election. Heads need to roll and anyone involved in such a treasonous act should be put in prison.
You forgot firing Director Comey, which they interpreted as an act only an enemy agent would take.
Lets not forget that the Democrats demanded that Comey be fired…..
When he was investigating their precious and sainted Hillary. When he closed the investigation he was back in their good graces.
Sessions darn well knew about all of this, yet sat on his hands for two years.
The question is ‘why?’ But I think we know.
What a disgrace and rat sessions is.
And why was Sessions allowed to do this? Because Vichy Mitchy and Snake-in-the-Grassley made it clear that no replacement would be confirmed, leaving Deep State in charge no matter what.
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/05/31/heres-why-trump-cant-fire-sessions-rosenstein-or-mueller.html
There are many lonely light posts in DC that could use a friend to hang around with.
Looks like Wray, Rosenstein and Mueller are part of the coup cabal. Mueller yesterday again leaked that he had emails from Stone to and from Wiki Leaks. However Congress says there are no such emails. Time for Mueller to be subpoenaed with duces tecum.
Also IG Horowitz, who somehow arrived at the conclusion that when every decision DOJ/FBI made all went in favor of Hillary and her cronies and against Trump, his family and associates, that didn’t imply bias against Trump because taken separately and in isolation, each decision could be procedurally justified. What a crock.
And where the hell is Huber? He should be fired and forced to repay any compensation he was given after doing nothing.
Excellent article on subject at The Federalist
http://thefederalist.com/2019/02/15/7-big-takeaways-andrew-mccabes-planned-coup/
Question, what would be the best way to get the prosecution ball rolling? Is there any potential for civil damages?
What are all the possible causes for action, both civil and criminal?
The bar for civil libel defamation litigation is high for public officials, but not impossible, would a civil or criminal racketeering case be possible with a conspiracy on this scale? Especially because there is a under color of law component.
There is no statute of limitations for federal crimes punishable by death (like treason), nor for certain federal crimes of terrorism, nor for certain federal sex offenses.
Prosecution for most other federal crimes must begin within five years of the commitment of the offense. There are exceptions. Some types of crimes are subject to a longer period of limitation; some circumstances suspend or extend the otherwise applicable period of limitation.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL31253.pdf
AG Barr: start the investigations going.
These people make Benedict Arnold seem like a piker.
AG Candy Barr better get on it – fast: special counsels for this treason, clinton, obama, holder, lynch, etc. etc. etc.
If he doesn’t, he’ll be as bad as holder and lynch, and as big a traitor as sessions.
I suspect he will do nothing. He was cowed into agreeing to let Mueller complete his treason without supervision or limitations.
Dem perps….automatic mulligan.
“That’s what all of this has been about.”
That’s not all this has been about. I believe the main purpose of “all of this” has been to discourage other, non-establishment types from following in Trump’s footsteps. It’s meant to convey the idea that if you challenge the establishment, the establishment will ruin you, your supporters, your associates, and your family. It is meant to prevent another such candidate from even attempting what Trump has done.