Trump: ‘We Have Reached a Deal to End the Shutdown’
He said that if we don’t get a fair deal by Feb. 15 then the government could close again on Feb. 16.
President Donald Trump has announced that they have come to a deal to reopen the government for three weeks. He thanked the federal workers who went without work and promised they’ll receive their backpay soon.
The short term funding does not include wall funding.
*This is a developing story and will be updated….
Trump: I am pleased to announced we have reached a deal to end the shutdown and re-open the government.
— Chad Pergram (@ChadPergram) January 25, 2019
Senior administration officials expect @realDonaldTrump to endorse short-term funding bill to reopen government in next hour. Final details being worked out in WH convos now. Unclear if 2 or 3 weeks. Border debate will continue. Stress on Govt systems was increasing.
— Major Garrett (@MajorCBS) January 25, 2019
The short-term funding will keep the government open until February 15. He said, “I will make sure that all employees receive their backpay very quickly or as soon as possible.”
Trump promised the wall he wants to build isn’t a medieval wall, but instead a smart wall “designed to meet the needs of front line border agents and are operationally effective.”
The government could shut down again on February 16 if there is no agreement by then. He also threatened to declare a national emergency if there is no wall funding in a deal by February 15.
From Phil and Kaitlan: the deal would be a CR for three weeks, which would include the current level of fencing and wall repair money ($1.3 billion for the year.) There are still issues over the backpay provisions that any agreement would include, one source says. (more)
— Steve Brusk (@stevebruskCNN) January 25, 2019
From The Washington Times:
President Trump is planning to make an announcement early Friday afternoon as tensions mounted on the 35th day of the partial government shutdown.
White House aides were preparing the Rose Garden for an announcement, although sources wouldn’t say what the president plans to say.
Senate Republican Whip John Thune said the shutdown could end Friday “at least temporarily.”
“Hopefully he’ll say something that will give us a path forward,” the South Dakota Republican told reporters.
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So, we have all learned a lesson here: If you shut down just one part of government, shut down HUD or the EPA, not border patrol and other federal government workhorses.
Plus, do it before the election, not after.
Trump is basically folding on this, and we have so many illegal aliens,we here in Georgia are turning into Mexifornia.
Frankly, Americans give and give and give. We have been promised enforcement for over 30 years. It’s time to dig in and quit giving in. “Compromise”?? We have done nothing but compromise for over 30 years, while the anti-American side has taken and taken and taken. There’s been no compromise, only unilateral disarmament – LITERALLY.
Enough. And Senator Isakson, R-Ga, we saw you voted for the dems plan to re-open government without a wall. Your voters are totally stupid.
Trump is surrounded by incompetence
and I’m beginning to think it is rubbing off onto him
the only right move here is to keep the shutdown going if the Democrats don’t capitulate for border wall spending and immediate funding
because they are the ones holding the government back over a fifth of a percent of the total budget
and why isn’t that FACT being circulated everytime a R-Senator or R-House member is before a camera
Trump should be saying how little of the budget the wall really is compared to the massive federal spending on programs that are totally unneeded
and he should be saying this three times a day and in written statements
“Trump is surrounded by incompetence”
And who do we blame for that … he’s the guy that chose his team.
We have learned that Trump cares for the Government Employees and the Democrats were happy to throw them under the bus.
Ditto with the Dreamers.
IMO neither cares for government employees.
The Democrats have the GOPe and the press at their back. They know there is no fight in the GOP for a wall. Never has been. And they have the Government Unions out there feeding scare stories to the press and the press putting the most Democrat friendly spin possible.
It’s almost as if, it’s one man, against the swamp… and he is fighting with a DOJ who is, with the FBI been running a soft coup for 2 years now.
what I find amazing is Republicans control 2/3 of the federal government
3/4 if you include the Supreme Court
and yet the Democrats control the weakest branch and force a R-President to fold?
even when the R’s get the control they campaign over, they lack the balls to do anything with it
wasn’t that long ago when a Republican House majority couldn’t do jack shit in an Obama administration
fracking spinless bastards the whole lot of them
It’s not called “the power of the purse” for nothing:
“All Bills for raising Revenue shall originate in the House of Representatives; but the Senate may propose or concur with amendments as on other Bills.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 7, clause 1
“No Money shall be drawn from the Treasury, but in Consequence of Appropriations made by Law; and a regular Statement and Account of the Receipts and Expenditures of all public Money shall be published from time to time.”
— U.S. Constitution, Article I, section 9, clause 7
And yet when it was a Democrat president facing off with a Republican House the GOP folded faster than Superman on laundry day (phrase stolen from Seinfeld).
The executive and the legislative branches do all manner of CRAZY things with money, pulling it out of thin air for whatever pleases them.
As Pelosi responded when asked about where the constitution sanctioned obamacare, she said “Constitution? Constitution? Are you kidding me?”
obamacare did not originate in the house. it was “deemed” constitutional by chief justice roberts and 4 leftist SC judges who shoved the personal mandate down our throats as a “tax.”
If this really is the proposal, any bets that Pelosi rejects it? She will smell blood and go for the kill.
If she’s dumb enough to do that, she’s catching a hot potato of responsibility for unpaid workers, most of whom are Democrats.
She won’t be blamed because the Democrats are the media.
I am disappointed, Trump better start pulling rabbits out of his hat pretty soon.
My problem, is I don’t see anyone else out there who has a prayer in hell of stopping the dumbing down of America.
Cave. They go back to getting a paycheck (they’re not going back to work since they don’t work in the first place), and he doesn’t get the wall. As to 2020, I’ll channel John McLaughlin, “Bye, Bye!”
And to your point, no, there isn’t anyone else out there who fights. Pence is in the mode of a Mittens.
Pelosi has no reason to reject it
Democrats are giving up nothing and getting a 3 week reprieve they can boast about all month
rejecting this particular deal would be even more foolish than the Republicans putting it on the table
I wonder if Trump would be bolder if we were in the streets. It’s hard when you have a real job. Not saying I do, just saying, for most people, it would be.
Being in the streets [actually, there are better tactical positions] may be the only alternative given that “normal politics” seemed to be run by one party with two faces, both of which hate the people they rule. Seriously, each generation has to decide whether the old ways still work or not. Every society and civilization falls eventually, and it takes constant battle in one form or another to hold it together. It can be argued that the social contract we accepted before is gone. In the absence of that social contract, the means dictated by that social contract will not have effect. A review of Hobbes’ State of Nature would possibly be relevant.
Trump has to know that the Democrats are going to deny funding the for wall. If he reopens the government, he’s going to be blamed for closing the government again in three weeks.
He might think that strengthens his position, but it will not, news media will not allow that to happen.
Trump has to know that the Democrats are going to deny funding the for wall. If he reopens the government, he’s going to be blamed for closing the government again in three weeks.
He might think that strengthens his position, but it will not, news media will not allow that to happen.
Boo. Leave it closed. The longer it’s “closed” the more people will notice that we don’t actually need most of it.
Trump has caved; there will be no wall.
I’m afraid that you are right. And if you are, I think that he will not survive the primary.
People vote pocketbooks. Trump has been fantastic for employment and wages, hands down.
But there will be an amnesty and citizenship for the Dreamers and at least 1million more, and continued chain migration. Plus, the country will continue its road to socialism, which means the end of the middle class and thus the American experiment.
Even worse than illegals, will be more Muslims who will be just like those causing all the trouble in Europe.
Let us hope he has the military working on a wall plan over the next couple of weeks.
And so a federal judge told the Executive branch that they cannot make employees come to work and not pay them but they can NOT work and get paid.
Am I reading this correctly?
After what went on with Reagan with the air traffic controllers, how can it be that they are not designated as essential workers?
They are. They’ve been bitching non-stop. Only staff pukes and trainees were sent home. Now the sick out this morning and the dire predictions of interfering with the superbowl had to add pressure. All the unions were piling in on the unsafe crap. I hope ATC gets privatized out of this. They play games. Time to end that crap.
Trump inconvenienced all those federal workers, and citizens for nothing. The Republican Party is officially dead.
The Republican Party has been dead for some time, being now only a branch of the Democrats whose main goal has been to conceal that fact.
BRILLIANT. Trump is wooing and peeling Democrat voters away from the Dems with this action.
Trump comes across as humanitarian and willing to negotiate but Pelosi and the Dems come across like Stalin and his Communist Party.
Mary many thanks for using a real photo of our President instead of the MSM Mob Media Photoshopped ones.
BRILLIANT. Trump is wooing and peeling Democrat voters away from the Dems with this action.
Trump comes across as humanitarian and willing to negotiate but Pelosi and the Dems come across like Stalin and his Communist Party.
Mary many thanks for using a real photo of our President instead of the MSM Mob Media Photoshopped ones.
This is the plan; I’m hoping this happens…
“Trump promised the wall he wants to build isn’t a medieval wall, but instead a smart wall “designed to meet the needs of front line border agents and are operationally effective.”
The government could shut down again on February 16 if there is no agreement by then. He also threatened to declare a national emergency if there is no wall funding in a deal by February 15.”
Pelosi has already declared that there will be SOTU nor any negotiations until the government is re-opened. Trump wins. So we can all take the next 3 weeks off as the Dems crow about teaching Trump a lesson.
Having read these comments, I am appalled at how quickly people abandon Trump. He just tightened the noose one more twist as the Dems prove that they just won’t negotiate no matter what. And we have three weeks to build up a head of steam to support what Trump will due on Feb 16 when the Dems are off on another junket.
I can use the rest.
Both parties are getting smoked by government employees not getting paid. So everything is suspended until Feb 15 where 2 more payrolls will be met and the Super Bowl will be history.
Nothing will happen in the next 3 weeks. No DACA, no budget deal, no communist legislators staging protests in the halls of Congress,… Everyone has time to calm down and watch the Super Bowl.
My only question is whether Pelosi will now reschedule the SOTU as originally scheduled. I expect that she won’t because she greatly fears those communists running amok.
My main fear is that Trump will back off of his threat on Feb 15 to shut it down again. THAT would be a catastrophe.
“My main fear is that Trump will back off of his threat on Feb 15 to shut it down again. THAT would be a catastrophe.”
And then we have to ask what changes between now and then? Starting from a weaker position the second time around isn’t encouraging. Is Trump really going to say: “Read my lips, we’ll build a wall”? Why should the congress negotiate again. Another three weeks of federal employee unions sabotaging the second shutdown and he’s worse off then ever.
I’m afraid that this pretty much ends Trump’s effectiveness as President; negotiating from a position of strength is one thing that he’ll never have again.
Nothing was going to happen in 3 weeks or 30 weeks as it is. Today, Trump took the opportunity to make the case for the wall that he would have made at the SOTU and gave up nothing. I don’t expect the Dems to be crowing about making Trump cave because they gained nothing and will be in an even worse negotiating position on Feb 15.
How quickly “conservatives” give up. Trump is the only guy fighting for us! This is why conservatives never win. We can’t trust each other long enough to get anything accomplished.
President Trump has had to fight the Courts, the House, the Senate, the Democrats, the Republicans, his own Administration, the media, electorate that put the Democrats in charge of the house and six Republican Senators that have no time whatever for Trump or his policies.
He’s alone. Everybody that works with him is subject to smears if not judicial reprisals. The Kavanaugh confirmation hearings were such a horrendous abuse of power by the Senate, I doubt anyone over the age of five would agree to go through that process.
Yes, Trump lost; he is a fine man and to my mind one of the top three presidents of all time. And yes he caved but why force the government shutdown to last any longer after the Republicans told him they would override his veto?
The elections in California will foretell the future of all elections from now on. Trump was our last hurrah, he never really stood a chance because our government is a Republic in name only.
there is one giant obvious reason you continue to force the shutdown what you are saying is true
to get the Republicans on record who are voting on this compromise
and they would need 67 to override the veto
I don’t see how the GOP is telling Trump that is going to happen
but even in THAT scenario – Trump should have still forced the issue to let the Republican voter base see the RINO-stooges
This is really a “Hear Hear” to Fishstick.
EXACTLY, let the GOPe senate override a veto and then we will see the vermin under the rocks, who aren’t pro-Americans at all.
Right now, they hide in the tall grass of all these procedural votes, including Georgia’s republican senator John Isakson.
We see you, Mr. Isakson.
Forcing the Republicans to go public would only cement their opposition to all of Trump’s goals. Worse, if the House impeaches the President, this would make it almost certain that the Republicans would convict.
The only faith that I have in the Republican Party is that they will seek that which benefits them.
Salvage could be in the form of ordering they military to build the wall. While doing so deploying drones which take out invaders.
That’ll show him for trying to end wars. Bibi/Bolton have the stick. Onward to Venezuela.
Yes Healthy Guy the President just fired a massive broadside right into the Dims’ ship.
Hoping Mary has an update soon on the President’s live press conference he just held.
Some things to ponder, a poll at the start of this month showed 80 percent of Americans support President Trump on the Wall. Also at about the same time CHER jumped Pelosi on her mule headed stubbornness “Just fund the damn Wall!” Cher demanded.
Yes, the shutdown was beginning to hurt people. That’s on the Democrats. He caved, the day after caving on giving a SOTU speech in a different venue. If he declares the national emergency, some judge in Oregon will stop it and it will never happen, at least not without years of legal battles. Neither side had many choices left, but this does not help his original position in the slightest.
I feel just like I felt the night Øbama was elected for his second term.
The republic is no more … and America will never be great again.
Heavy sigh.
‘Deal to end shutdown’ is DOG WHISTLE for Trump looses yet another pissing contest to a woman.
Show of hands: Who thinks this finally ends with amnesty concessions and no new physical wall being built?
As I always have, I think this ends with some amnesty a la T-rump-Javanka with some minimal wall building as a fig leaf.
Somebody had to be the adult in the room. Nancy was being a toddler, and toddlers do get their way–temporarily. Unlike Nancy, who can be a partisan hack, Trump has to be the President of all the people. He proved that today by making a big decision that the M$M was sure to mock.
In three weeks, Pelosi will have made no concessions and, emboldened by her win, will continue to say “no”. Chuckie will not be happy but Traitor Mittens will rub his economically filthy hands gleefully. (Utah, you owe us one for sending this evil Wall Street shill to the Senate.)
Trump will declare a National State of Emergency over the wall and then spend the rest of his term fighting it in court. However, he will show his dedication to fighting for the wall.
Nancy has no desire to really impeach him at this point, just to take him down and neuter him. The worst thing for her would be an actual hearing with actual facts: they all tell against her party and her gal pal, Hillary.
We need to continue to support Trump–he’s really all we’ve got. Some bright politico on our side needs to think of a way of trapping Pelosi, preferably by playing the Democrat party against itself. We need some crafty political minds on our side now.
I respectfully disagree.
About being the adult in the room?
To L Breath. I responded there but the nesting sometimes screws up where the comment goes.
PS:
http://www.conservativeunderground.com/forum505/showthread.php?94964-The-Speech-the-President-should-have-given
The noose is tightening. Can there be any question that the House will go all out in its attack to bring down Trump? Also, there can be little doubt that he, traveling in the circles that he has, dirt in his background. It’s a matter of what it is and how it can be used to construct a narrative to aid in his downfall.
Some persons claim that, in the case of impeachment, the Senate is a backstop to his being convicted. I’m not so sure, especially with Romney in the mix.
Moreover, as we saw with Obama, a new President comes into the Office a certain amount of political capital. Used wisely, there’s a nice return, usually in the for of a second term. Poorly used and it begins to become apparent that the President has diminished capacity and a second term is not in the offing. I do wonder about Trump’s, hereof late.
This is an unmitigated catastrophe. Nothing will change in a few weeks, unless Democrats decide to up the pressure and make even more demands. Trump has (mostly) been a good president, but this is a very embarrassing and public own goal, and honestly he bears much of the blame. This may very well be his “Read my lips” moment.
In fairness to Trump he is not the only one who failed. He is the nominal head of the left-wing open borders GOP, which has been at this for decades (hello, Mitt Romneycare!). The Achilles heel of the Trump administration is that he is dependent upon the very people who hate him to get anything done.
Even if Trump’s political instincts and abilities were 100% perfect (they’re not) he would probably still get rolled on this issue. Both major political parties are rabidly open borders, a fact that is not pleasant to contemplate. Trump is finding it hard to win a war when your most of his generals are moonlighting for the other side.
The best solution for Trump would have been to tough it out until 2020 and use it to fire up voters. Now in a few weeks the same situation will occur, and Trump will be no better off than he is now (he may even be worse off).
Did you mean by toughing it out until 2020 to keep the government shut down until then?
Works for me. As it stands now Trump will be in exactly the same situation in a few weeks. He will be no better off than he is now, and could possibly be in a worse position.
As bad as this is, it’s gonna get worse. Impeachment hearings are but a few weeks away. The only delay is that RBG hasn’t died yet. As soon as they announce she’s gone , the Donks will impeach in the House to then argue, that a President under the cloud of impeachment proceedings Cannot, no way, appoint a SCOTUS replacement for RBG… and they’ll play that till next January, and then demand no appointment during 2020 election cycle.
Nice huh. It’s fixin’ to get really craptastic.
If I’m squinting at this correctly, the short-term deal pays the federal employees and reopens government (the few parts that were shut down) until Feb 15, at which point if the Dems are still having their squealing fit over the wall, Trump will declare an emergency and just force the issue.
yes – it is just a 3 week delay then back to THIS all over again
the only problem is the optics of it look worse for Trump because he has already capitulated once and got zilch out of it
as for declaring an emergency – a blue state judge will just immediately block the executive order causing a long delay until the trials make it to the Supreme Court
and that could last till 2021
Trump will have to put on his big boy pants and play hardball. Were he to order the Pentagon to build that wall, As the CIC, they are obligated to obey his order. The judge who rules that it is unconstitutional would have no way of enforcing his ruling, something prior presidents have made clear at times in history, notably Andrew Jackson.
In a national emergency the President, regard to his constitutional duty to protect the country and further defined by a 2006 act of Congress, is in charge, not judges. If that is what it takes, Trump needs to go there with the full support of the vast majority of Americans. Let’s see how desperate and corrupt the Deep State truly is.
I would go even further. If I recall correctly, Pres. Wilson sent 100,000 troops to the border. I would send 400,000 because as Kurt Schlichter has noted, only about 10% actually man a post, the rest are support or rotating posts.
I would not do it as an “emergency” which is statutory, but under the constitutional guarantee to the states that the federal government will protect the states from “invasion.” They are, we are invaded. Matter of fact, we’re being colonized by Mexicans, hondurans, etc. Whitfield county in Georgia 80% of its elementary students are latin.
Then, I would ignore every court order that instructed the administration to continue DACA or any other ridiculous order or injunction.
If judges want to be president, they should have to run for it, just like the 16 GOP candidates, and the 221 dems are going to do.
And if John Roberts complains, email him the forms to become a presidential candidate.
As Steve Bannon noted, they aren’t going to give our country back to us without a fight.
Speaking of which, have you called your congressman/senator this week?
Have you looked into running for office against these shortsighted buffoons?
I agree with your sentiments but how do we stop the House from impeachment and the Senate from convicting? The first time Trump looks at a judge sideways, congress will impeach him for being ‘above the law’.
I’m all for it. So long as Trump keeps playing the swamp’s word games, he will keep finding himself trapped. Congress has never been as unpopular as it is today. And Trump will be acting decisively on the very issue he was elected for so he will find strong support among the people.
So long as our military fulfills its oath to obey lawful orders, and this would be as lawful as it gets, Trump wins. I wouldn’t be surprised if the SCOTUS jumped in and blocked any lower court blockades. Just let Congress try to impeach him. It would be civil war.
Dear StableSort and Pasadena Phil:
I agree with Phil; let them try to impeach him. If they convict – and I don’t think you could get enough gop senators stupid enough to vote for that (takes 2/3s)- there would be people in the streets.
Better to have people in the streets now, rather than turn into El Salvador in 15 or 20 years time.
ANOTHER THING Trump can do NOW, without any real problems, is just start REFUSING TO SIGN ANY LEGISLATION WHATSOVER. I don’t care if it’s naming a post office, refuse to sign it. Don’t sign anything that doesn’t benefit Americans or his base. And let them all eat cake.
SOTU is now back on, thanks to the Government being open Polesi now has no grounds NOT to approve the address in Congress.
Democrats will stuff the galleries with their crazies and America will get to see liberals for what they truly are. Deranged hate mongers live on TV.
Then in 3 weeks time we get to go through this all again.
Hm, would it be possible for Trump to invite enough guests to fill the observation area, and thus crowd out the screaming and screeching twits that the Dems will certainly try to shove in?
He will be in much better ground then. He will have demonstrated that he tried. The lunatic fringe will never be convinced. Others will.
Honestly, this looks like the least bad of his options at this point. In a normal negotiation, this would be a cave, but the difference here is Pelosi has hostages, and has made it abundantly clear she is willing to wait until the government self-destructs in order to get her way.
Trump, ultimately, is not.
He sweetened the deal and she rejected any thought of it. Now he’s working on peeling her support in Congress, but only has about 12 of the 20 or so he needs. The numbers have been improving, but right now, it isn’t enough, so now he’s working for time. This appears to be a delaying maneuver so he can have the time he needs to peel off more Democrats for a deal. This has a secondary benefit of keeping Pelosi’s crew tied up in the shutdown impass rather than implementing their agenda.
At this point, my guess is, he’s going to push hard for negotiating on the wall, and Pelosi is going to push hard to change to other legislative agendas entirely.
It will be interesting to see if he re-authorizes her Afghanistan trip to get her out of the country to work on middle of the road dems, or if he insists that she should stay in DC for negotiations.
Voyager, I like your take on it. I have to agree.
But McConnell and Ryan put him in this position. This should have been done before the election; instead he humored them and waited until after.
You’re right about her Afghanistan trip: get her out of here!
The trouble is the GOPe will ride to the rescue of Democrats, just like they did on Obamacare.
Recovering Lutheran: Can’t we hope with McCain gone and more gop senators, that we have a better shot?
So President Trump caved. He can try to spin it any way he wants, but he absolutely caved. In 3 weeks when he comes back with his “Emergency Declaration” to get the wall built, it will be shut down by a single Judge from the 9th Circuit, and Trump can tell his base he did everything he could. Apparently the thing he couldn’t do is muster the courage of his bluster.
He should ahave:
1) kept the shutdown happening, bringing in Military ATC personnell to keep the Airports open
2) Held the SOTU in the Senate Chamber, and not invited ANY House Domocrats that wouldn’t fit (give them a TV) or better still in Independance Hall where the Constitution so forgotten by allof them was signed
3) keep “the Government” closed until the food Stamp & welfare recipients start to scream, at which point they can go out and get jobs, or plead their cases to Nazi Pelosi or Alexandra Occasional Cortex
He hasn’t caved; he just set a definitive time limit. On 2/16, he’ll declare an national emergency and direct the border to be secured.
No reasonable person will fault him – he’s given congress every chance to secure the border.
Here is what is going on here.
Since shortly after his inauguration, DJT has offered the Democrats almost everything that they have asked for, in exchange for funding a wall. He has signed several CRs to continue to fund the government upon promises that the Congress would do its job and both fix the immigration system and to fund a barrier, at least partially. Congress, as a whole, has refused to act. The Democrats have been especially obstructionist. Finally, in December 2019, he refused to sign any CR which did not include at least partial funding for a barrier [essentially 1/5 of the amount that originally asked for]. During the shutdown, he has offered the Democrats just about everything that they have been asking for. And, still they refused to deal, or even make a counter offer. Finally, Trump says that he will sign a continuing resolution funding the government until February 15th. He will tell people that he did this to relieve the burden on the rank and file federal government employees. In other words, Trump is the only one making any concession, in this matter.
So, who appears to be more reasonable and and caring toward the little guy? Trump. Nothing has changed. It might, before this all over. But, if the Dems fail to present any reasonable deal, and Trump closes the government again, he is in a very strong position to point out that he has made every concession possible and the Dems still refuse to attempt to make a deal.
The Dems can take a victory lap, over this. But, three weeks from now, they are going to have to present a realistic proposal, including funding for a physical barrier, or they will own the next shutdown. The Dems have been whining that the President refuses to negotiate in good faiht. Well, now they are in the same position. Let’s see what happens.
Something that wasn’t being reported much in the news, that I found out about later is, he also got a commission that’s supposed to come up with a border plan before the three weeks are out. I’d guess he’s also got a separate team going on a backup plan, in case the commission doesn’t do anything (or even taking the commissions musings and turning them into Bipartisan Brand Plans).
I’m going to guess that there will be a big unveiling of the plan before the three weeks expire, and it will be sold as the Big Bipartisan Commission Plan that All the Experts Approve!(tm) It would give Pelosi enough time to back away from the “Walls are Immoral!” stake the put in the ground, without forcing her to go to the mats for it, while giving time to round up enough additional Democrats to force the issue if necessary.
Interestingly enough, this also fully justifies him cancelling her Afghanistan trip; Pelosi would have been out of the country during this, and we would not have been able to reopen government until several days, or a week later.
Good points. TY.
The people down voting are as unrealistic as Ann Coulter.
Ann Coulter isn’t unrealistic. The people who disagree with her are. You’re fooling yourself if you don’t think central American violence is now an American problem.
You can either admit there’s a problem, or ignore it until we lose all our rights, and are hung from bridges as they are in other countries, over drug territory.
Ann Coulter is not unrealistic because she believes Central American violence is a problem. She is unrealistic because she will not be satisfied until every illegal immigrant is deported. She is unrealistic that she expects President Trump alone can build the wall. She is unrealistic to believe Jeff Sessions was effective to any degree. She is unrealistic to believe that Mitt Romney could have accomplished any of what Trump has. She is unrealistic for multiple reasons.
Trump voters didn’t elect him to cave. This is a huge mistake on his part.