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*Suspicious Package* Open Thread: We don’t know what we don’t know

*Suspicious Package* Open Thread: We don’t know what we don’t know

Many facts reported in the media will turn out to be wrong.

https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1055145750793990145

One thing that we know for a certainty about the “suspicious packages” sent to various Democrat political figures is that we don’t know a lot of actual facts, and many facts reported in the media will turn out to be wrong.

It happens every time, including after the Newtown school shooting and Boston Marathon bombing, as I wrote back in April 2013, At Boston Marathon as in Newtown, initial media reports almost entirely wrong.

There also is an immediate media effort to blame “right-wing” perpetrators without evidence of who the perpetrator(s) were. It may be that the perpetrator here is anti-Democrat and politically motivated, but we don’t know that now.

We will do our best to keep you informed as things develop today, but know for certain that many facts being reported in the media will turn out to be wrong.

(Updating to follow below by various authors)

Latest Updates

*Update 2:00PM

Security for former officials under review:

Various federal agencies are now reviewing security protocols involving former cabinet-level and other high-profile officials, following this week’s discovery of suspected pipe bombs sent to Obama administration officials, according to two individuals familiar with the government’s response to the investigation.

Government agencies have been proactively contacting some former officials to make sure they are aware of the ongoing pipe bomb incidents, and that they remain vigilant and report any suspicious packages to law enforcement.

Although cabinet-level and senior agency officials do not maintain protective details after their departure from office, it is common for agency protective operations teams to maintain contact with them to help lessen any perceived threats or identity theft that might result from their high-profile posture.

*Update 12:08PM

Donald Trump, Jr., had to remind CNN’s Jim Acosta that his family once received a package with white powder. Thankfully the powder was harmless, but the note said, “You’re an awful person and now you get what you deserve.”

Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer had harsh words for Trump, too:

“How dare they,” Pelosi said at a press conference when it was suggested that heated Democratic rhetoric played any part in inspiring Hodgkinson’s actions.

“First of all, the timing of it all. Everybody is so sad, so concerned, so coming together,” Pelosi said about being asked the question so soon after the attack. “Don’t you think it’s strange that instead of praying … that they would start saying—”

She then stopped herself and concluded, “Let’s have this conversation another day.”

*Update 10:52AM

FBI confirms three additional packages: one to DeNiro and two to Biden.

CBS News learned that the US postal system is being checked out:

A source familiar with the investigation tells CBS News all pieces of mail processed by the U.S. Postal Service are put through machines that photograph and document what they are, where they came from and where they’re headed.

It’s all a result of the post-9/11, post-anthrax world we live in, the source says.

Using what’s described as “data analytics,” investigators are now looking at mail processing facilities nationwide to check for packages that may appear similar to the others sent to top Democrats.

Security concerns kept the source form sharing specifics on how this is being carried out, but it’s one tool investigators are using to cast a wide net to quickly determine if there are any other suspicious packages out there.

NYPD has begun investigating a package sent to Robert DeNiro found at his TriBeca Productions mailroom. Law enforcement said it looks similar to those discovered on Wednesday.

Police have arrived at a Delaware US Postal facility because they believe they found a package meant for Joe Biden.

Hoax?

Former Fox reporter Adam Housley tweeted last night that a federal official told him the bombs are fake.

Media Reaction

Remember how the media quickly jumped on President Donald Trump because he stated without facts that criminals and those from the Middle East have infiltrated the migrant caravan?

Well, the media has, without facts, subtly blamed Trump for these bombs sent to Democrat foes.

Look at what Newsweek tried to do…

I’ve long said that everyone should drop the hateful rhetoric that has plagued politics lately.

[Featured Image: CNN Twitter]

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Comments

Hmmmm. Suspicious is exactly the right word especially with less than two weeks before the elections. Listening to the shrills on the various news outlets is also pretty ridiculous with their idea that the President is somehow responsible . OMG.

    Bucky Barkingham in reply to Yamamma. | October 25, 2018 at 9:45 am

    The Lefties need to draw media attention away from their “migrant caravan” which has back fired big time. BTW notice how fast they had the hashtag MAGAbomber ready to go? Just sayin’ …

      EnquiringMind in reply to Bucky Barkingham. | October 25, 2018 at 3:48 pm

      You obviously didn’t read the article on which you are commenting.

      BTW, just how long does it take to come up with a hash tag?
      a) a minute
      b) an hour
      c) a day
      d) it must be planned in advance
      e) as long as it takes for Trump to tweet something stupid

      Has a significant law been broken? Most of what I have seen is pipes, tap, a clock. But not detonator or threatening letter. I understand that some have fun powder, which is illegal, but so far nothing serious. I am getting this is a liberal as the people targeted are actually helping conservatives.

        JOHN B in reply to david7134. | October 26, 2018 at 8:08 am

        “Pipes, tape and a clock”.

        Maybe these were built by Obama’s favorite “clock boy.”

        thalesofmiletus in reply to david7134. | October 26, 2018 at 9:02 am

        The recipients were complicit in a fake bomb threat – which is as serious a crime as complicity in a real bomb threat. The criminality of fake bomb threats is settled law and practice, and rightly so, for deadly threats are apt to lead to deadly acts.

        Note that the fake bombs were not sent through the mail, therefore delivered in person by an insider. The recipients did not act as if they feared the bombs were real. Therefore, the insider was recognized by the recipients.

        It will be interesting to see if settled law gets applied to Democrats. If they can get away with this, they can get away with greater acts of real violence. If they cannot get away with it, it is the Reichstag fire, and a whole lot more people will be hailing Trump as the God Emperor.

    Joe-dallas in reply to Yamamma. | October 25, 2018 at 10:25 am

    Suspicious – Yes

    Why send out 10+ bombs – greatly increases chance of getting caught.

      UnCivilServant in reply to Joe-dallas. | October 25, 2018 at 10:29 am

      Why send out 10+ bombs where not one has even accidentally gone off.

      Someone trying to send real devices would have made one that went off by now.

        Firewatch in reply to UnCivilServant. | October 25, 2018 at 11:07 am

        Did Biden get T-Bone’s bomb?

        They’re not real bombs. They’re fake bombs, intended to generate headlines, not cause injuries or deaths.

        Politics. October surprise. Perpetrator rightly assumes media will run with it and blame Trump/Rebuplicans.

        MajorWood in reply to UnCivilServant. | October 25, 2018 at 1:05 pm

        My bet is that an alt-right wingnut will be found in about 24hrs, all blowed up with parts of bombs identical to those that were mailed out and delivered, and that will close the case as no need to investigate because the guy who HAD to have been behind it all is now all dead and what not. case closed Trump and kavanaugh both guilty by association (i.e. white males).

          EnquiringMind in reply to MajorWood. | October 25, 2018 at 3:58 pm

          I will take that bet because they continue the investigation, anyway. For one thing, they want to make sure there was no one else involved.

          But that isn’t what you meant. Is it? You meant that it is a hoax and they will pin it on a fall guy. So you already have you answer; no matter what the facts show.

          You are one of Trump’s useful idiots. I doubt you are useful in any other way.

      Firewatch in reply to Joe-dallas. | October 25, 2018 at 12:27 pm

      When I read “suspicious package”, I wondered how Bill Clinton could be in all those places at once.

Serious Queston:

We have all seen the local bomb squads on TV. Their SOP is the guy in the suit drives the robot over. The Robot picks up the bomb and drops it in the chamber and they detonate it.

Why were none of these bombs detonated?

It was all a mistake , it was Clock Boy’s new cordless timer microphones. he was just sending one to all his buddies .

    Good point. Maybe Trump should invite the “bomber” to the White House and award the “bomber” for his interest in science.

Less serious comment – Don’t you just know some guy down at the ATF is saying, “Bring me the file of all the Crazy Eyed Suspects in the Tri-State Area.”

Foreign invaders and fake bombs. The Dems are really pulling out all the stops. Desperate, but not serious.

Connivin Caniff | October 25, 2018 at 9:26 am

THIS IS RIDICULOUS! Who puts a clock on a bomb that is intended to explode upon opening?

    I don’t think they were meant to explode, ever. They are supposed to point back to the culprit(s). Now that is suspicious. Someone walking around with a sign on their back that says I am the bomber, waiting to be arrested and spout far right, pro Trump rhetoric. Wait for it. SMH

It almost seems like the person making/sending these devices wants to get caught. Either brazen or stupid.

¿quién se beneficia?

Pipe bombs? Where is their call for common sense plumbing control?

    Firewatch in reply to Mudcat. | October 25, 2018 at 11:10 am

    You will need a note from a licensed plumber to be able to buy pipe. It will behind the counter like all those dangerous sinus medications.

What’s really funny is the video tape of Robert De Niro hustling into the Post Office yesterday morning, as reports of these bombs were popping up, to make sure he got on the list of “bomb” targets. All to let the cognoscenti know that he was still relevant and important in lefty Democrat circles.

The only threat posed by these fake bomb props is if someone drops one on their toe! We are watching theater folks. Who benefits?

i’m suspicious of this thread… 😎

I have no idea where this is going to go but one thing we do know that is really suspicious is that NONE of the bombs went off. If they were actually bombs. Isn’t that a first for serial bombers? How many duds did the Unibomber experience? Maybe we are dealing with a child or mentally retarded adult?

Several Questions
1. What is the explosive capabilities of these bombs. I doubt anyone but a munitions expert could pack more then the equivalent of ten sticks of dynamite in one, 0probably a lot less. It might take out a room but not much more.

2. They showed on CNN NYPD transporting one of these bombs in what can be described as a miniature cement truck like antibomb vehicle. Was that anywhere necessary?

3. Even if the bombs were fake it would cost a lot of money to make them. I estimate abut $5K-$10K. It suggests more then just some guy playing a prank, something at least mildly organized.

4. How was the packages delivered. By traditional delivery services they coiuldn’t be sure they would be there the same day. By hand suggests a group of people.

This almost sounds like a 4chan prank, but 4chan does not do physical pranks.

Publicity stunt of some sort. Sounds kind of stupid.

    UnCivilServant in reply to RodFC. | October 25, 2018 at 11:05 am

    It is almost certainly procedure to treat all ‘devices’ as if they were live bombs, hence the bomb containment truck being deployed.

      The point is not that the bombs are phony, but that the containment devices they used seem so way out of proportion to the maximum possible yield of the bombs if they were real.

        Immolate in reply to RodFC. | October 25, 2018 at 2:43 pm

        Yeah they probably don’t have little Coleman coolers for tiny bombs or anything. Go big or go home.

    gospace in reply to RodFC. | October 25, 2018 at 12:08 pm

    $20.00, max, for each of those fake bombs.

      RodFC in reply to gospace. | October 25, 2018 at 12:24 pm

      For the parts.
      Add in the effort and assuming that the person took at least medium measures not to get caught.

      Assuming someone hired someone to do it and they did so “at cost”. I would think it still be close to $5000.

    Mac45 in reply to RodFC. | October 25, 2018 at 12:13 pm

    Answers.

    1) The power of the boms would depend upon several things. The first would be the type of explosive material used. C4 would be at the high end of the spectrum. TNT would be in the middle. And black powder would be at the low end. Then there is the casing material. Stronger casing allows the pressure to build to a higher level releasing greater force. However, if the casing material is too strong, on pipe bombs, it fails to shatter and the force of the explosive is usually forced out the ends of the pipe.

    2) Using am explosive containment vehicle would probably not be necessary, in this case. But, it is prudent. Until the device is destroyed or dismantled, you never know what might set it off. Therefor, this is pretty much SOP, where such vehicles are available.

    3) You could put together one of these “fake bombs” for about $15, if you filled it with black powder. Pipe bombs are very cheap to make, hence why basement terrorists use them. In this case, we have NO reports that these “bombs” contained explosive material at all. As to this being organized or a lone “bomber”, it is a little too soon to speculate on that aspect. But, this was not done overnight, unless there were multiple people involved. The materials would have to be acquired, modified for use, assembled and the packages mailed and delivered [in the case of Soros and CNN].

    4) Apparently these packages were both mailed and hand delivered. As to timing their delivery, that is pretty easy with the USPS. They deliver most small packages within three days, so all of these packages would arrive in a small window [3-4 days]. Remember, only three were actually delivered, SOROS, Brennan/CNN and the return to Wasserman-Schultz. All the rest have been located in mail collection facilities and it appears that the SOROs and CNN deliveries were not done through the USPS. The package pictured above, which was reportedly found at CNN, does not bear a post mark or USPS cancellation stripes on the stamps, so it is unlikely that it was delivered via USPS. It also does not bear the routing information applied by national carriers, such as UPS or Fedex. It was likely hand delivered.

      Jackie in reply to Mac45. | October 25, 2018 at 3:08 pm

      I agree. They are fake. The FBI will keep this secret as long as possible. There have been numerous leaks that indicate they are laughable fakes. Numerous wires. Digital clocks taped to pvc pipes. Cartoon bombs.

      Aarradin in reply to Mac45. | October 26, 2018 at 3:42 am

      These were made out of random crap you might find around your house.

      Duct taped together to look suspicious.

      That’s it.

    SpaceInvader in reply to RodFC. | October 25, 2018 at 1:34 pm

    Zero explosives in the devices. They are full of broken glass. The clock on the side has no alarm mechanism which would act as a trigger… The entire hoax looks like it cost someone about a hundred bucks including the unused stamps. It probably cost more than that to hire the couriers to deliver them.

This strikes me as a coordinated effort that involves multiple people and multiple locations. At least one package arrived by courier vs USPS and there’s no way someone is going to be able to dump a dozen of these in a collection box and have them arrive within 24 hours of each other in three different parts of the country. And the package that was supposedly “returned” to Wasserman Schultz? The turn around time for returned mail is anything but immediate. None of this makes any sense.

Okay, the six postage stamps give us the scale of the envelope and of the artifact. Pretty sure that that is a 6 x 9 Kraft envelope.

The artifact is a little shorter than the envelope, so say about 8 inches to allow the flap to seal.

And, that looks like 1 1/2 ” diameter ABS pipe, (Inside diameter = 1 1/2 “), which is the standard size for lavatory and sink drains.

We are told that there were both some kind of (explosive?) powder and also glass shards in the devices. Say 50-50 glass and powder.

Assume, for the moment, that the powder was, in fact, smokeless powder, which is readily available where reloading supplies are sold. (I don’t reload, but I have family who do.)

So, that is about 7 cubic inches of powder. That is enough, if properly confined, to seriously injures one or more people. Not enough to do structural damage to a building and probably not enough to kill anyone unless they were very lucky, but enough to maim and wound, maybe put out an eye.

But, the question is: how well would schedule 40 ABS pipe with the ends sealed with, what appears to be duct tape, confine the force of the combustion? I speculate, but it is somewhat informed speculation, that the ends would have blown out before the pipe would have burst.

Both smokeless and black powder, the two most likely ingredients, if unconfined, simply burn brightly.

So, hoax, inept bomb maker, I don’t know but I think we will soon.

    UnCivilServant in reply to erc. | October 25, 2018 at 11:52 am

    I would have said that’s electrical tape, but that doesn’t signifantly alter the calculus.

    Andy in reply to erc. | October 25, 2018 at 12:14 pm

    back in the 80s

      Andy in reply to Andy. | October 25, 2018 at 12:19 pm

      I was going to say, back in the 80s, playing with pipe bombs was called “a fun Saturday” for most rural/suburban teen boys. The shrapnel can be serious.

    alaskabob in reply to erc. | October 25, 2018 at 12:35 pm

    Black powder , as a low order explosive, would carry relatively more punch. Smokeless propellent requires adequate containment to rupture container with explosive force. Maim but less than lethal… but these are not even close to be real bombs…. the real damage is what the Left can fashion out of them.

    SpaceInvader in reply to erc. | October 25, 2018 at 1:36 pm

    Where were we told that there is explosive inside. I saw the X-ray that looks like nothing but glass.

It was all over a little past midnight, pst.

A photograph of one of the “bombs” was released within an hour after being found (by CNN, IIRC). Knowledgeable people looked at it and spotted the fake. And then, the laughter started.

At first, DJT agreed that the whole incident should be treated seriously, as do I. For example, Eric Holder’s law firm in DC had all of its incoming mail screened as a precaution. I support this decision, even though I had already called hoax. It would be a shame to have somebody, often some bystander, die because of the left’s continual crying of “wolf.”

Since CNN has been blaming DJT, I thought I’d post his actual reaction:

I agree wholeheartedly! (VP: “We condemn the attempted attacks against Obama, the Clintons, @CNN & others. These cowardly actions r despicable & have no place in this Country. Grateful 4 swift response of @SecretService, @FBI & local law enforcement. Those responsible will be brought 2 justice.”)
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/9r1s7g/i_agree_wholeheartedly_vp_we_condemn_the/

But Alex Soros was a little too quick on the trigger

WOW Alex Soros can really work! In just a few hours after the news of the “suspicious packages” being found this morning, he finished writing an op-ed piece about it, AND had it published by the NYT!
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/9r20i7/wow_alex_soros_can_really_work_in_just_a_few/

The bombs were readily identified as fake

FALSE FLAG! Bomb disposal experts are already calling out this PROPAGANDA.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/9r33m6/false_flag_bomb_disposal_experts_are_already/

And random citizens started picking the CNN version of the story apart.

FROM THE USPS WEBSITE! PROOF THESE PACKAGES WERE NEVER SENT IN THE MAIL. STAMPING AND BARCODING IS ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS AND IT HAPPENS BEFORE THE MAIL EVER STARTS ITS JOURNEY TO A DESTINATION OR EVEN A SORTING DELIVERY FACILITY.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/9r2cbr/from_the_usps_website_proof_these_packages_were/

So you want me to believe…that some random redneck white guy has George Soros, Hillary Clinton, and Barack Obamas’ address?
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/9r0w3l/let_me_check_my_rolodex/

The key is that none of them exploded. They didn’t explode because they were fake. They were designed from [sic] maximum camera effect, not casualty effect. The Democrats are so far beyond embarrassing that they’re at beyond infinity.

Most evident by the fact that the first thing CNN did when they received a “pipe bomb” was to photograph it. This was a staged event by the left. If LEO were involved NONE of these images would have been released until AFTER the investigation. Only a fool would fall for this.
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/9r3fcj/interesting_point/

At work, guy sitting next to me is an EOD Officer. When he 1st saw a picture of the bomb. “Well that looks like a piece of shit”
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/9r3nva/at_work_guy_sitting_next_to_me_is_an_eod_officer/

Wait — so DWS got her package back because the one sent to Eric Holder was “returned to sender”? So how did the returned mail get delivered the same time as all the other ones? Returned mail takes days/weeks to arrive…
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/9r2a5o/wait_so_dws_got_her_package_back_because_the_one/

When you receive a mail bomb and think “I need to tweet this!” instead of “run!” Hmmmm……
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/9r2igk/when_you_receive_a_mail_bomb_and_think_i_need_to/

And an elder member of the crowd pointed up a little bit of history.

Alinsky once urged leftists to dress up as Klansmwn and go to GOP events and cheer wildly. The mefia, he said, would jump at the chance to publicize the fake smear. Does all of this sound a little bit familiar?
https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/9r5wib/true

And one member of the CNN panel walked off the show after CNN showed a 10-minute rant by Brennan (how in the hell did a loose cannon like this get put at the head of the CIA?)

Exclusive — Bernard Kerik, NYC’s 9/11 Top Cop: I Walked off CNN When They Politicized Mail Bombs
https://www.breitbart.com/radio/2018/10/24/bernard-kerik-exclusive-nyc-9-11-top-cop-i-walked-off-cnn-set-when-they-politicized-mail-bombs/

Now we have a few more “bombs” in the series. I wonder if part of the purpose it to turn this kind of prank into a fad, like the past waves of “bomb” scares we had when I was in high school.

regardless who sent them, am glad no one(so far)has been injured/killed as a result–a good thing indeed and one of many other tells that was not a serious attempt to harm/kill the recipients–more likely, as more info comes to light, this was rather some sick/stupid attempt to draw attention and distract–whoever is responsible, they need to be apprehended and prosecuted–this sort of ploy/stunt is illegal and, quite frankly,beyond the pale in a free republic

if were in fact a legitimate threat, even cnn would be compelled to withhold vital pertinent information(the secret service does not treat this sort of thing lightly)more persuasive evidence that is all theatre

I’ve never seen dangerous bombs like this get so well photographed. Typically, police take them out and blow them up to be safe. This time, nope, just casually remove it from the package and photograph it.

I haven’t seen anyone mention this, but considering the “targets” the person(s) responsible had to be a political junkie. The average person wouldn’t connect DeNiro with Soros and Biden et al.

The average person wouldn’t connect DeNiro with Soros and Biden et al.

would not be surprised if some of the hollywood lefties were involved–after all, plenty of special effects companies available to manufacture and organize/orchestrate deliveries

too obvious, too scripted

After the desperation and theatrics shown during the Kavanaugh hearings, the false flag bullshit detector is ringing like a tsunami siren.

“Stop blaming others. Look in the mirror. Your inflammatory rhetoric, insults, lies, & encouragement of physical violence are disgraceful. Clean up your act.”
_______________

Wow, Brennan, project much? You and your lefty media friends are the ones who have been spewing all the inflammatory rhetoric, insults, lies, and encouragement of physical violence. You’ve even succeeded in getting Republicans shot at by your demented followers, and Steve Scalise nearly killed. From Kathy Griffin publishing a photo of herself holding a fake severed Trump head, to Tom Arnold warning that next time, the severed head will be Trump’s real head, you lefty freaks can’t stop with the assassination porn. And when you’re not talking about assassinating Trump, you’re calling his wife a whore, or claiming Trump fantasizes about having sex with his daughter, or openly advocating (Rosie O’Donnell and others) a U.S. military coup against a sitting U.S. president.

You’re the ones who need to look in the mirror, as horrifying as that prospect may be to you. You’re the ones who’ve been whipping up the weak-minded (i.e. fellow lefties) in this country for two years now, all because you can’t accept that your corrupt, sorry-ass candidate Hillary lost to Donald Trump, despite all the illegal shit you’ve been doing in our federal bureaucracies for years to ensure you crooked lefties kept control.

Let me point out again and clearer.
Everyone is assuming there is a political bent to this.
Dem anti Dem etc.

This however could have nothing to do with politics.
It could be a prank by a 4chan type group ( though 4chan does not do “real world” pranks ).

it could be a diversionary tactic, along the lines of the book/movie “Two Minute Warning”.

    UnCivilServant in reply to RodFC. | October 25, 2018 at 12:45 pm

    What we don’t have is actual evidence of motive, only patterns.

    The timing, the list of recipients, the ‘from’ label being Debbie Wasserman-Schultz. These elements scream “politically motivated”. The lack of any detonations screams “hoax or political ploy”.

    As for a diversion, the only thing its drawing attention from is also political.

    Unless you can bring out some additional information.

The suspicious package sent to DeNiro was a fan-mail letter. He didn’t recognize it because it has been so long since he got one.

Amazingly convenient, right? Just as soon as the Left’s mob of brownshirted jackboots and “Anti-fa” goons begin receiving greater scrutiny and deservedly negative publicity surrounding their belligerent, totalitarian and infantile antics, “bombs” are mailed to every single major Dumb-o-crat figure.

After everything that’s transpired with the Steele dossier dirty tricks operation, the FBI’s kid gloves “get-out-of-jail” card played on behalf of crone Hillary and sundry related shenanigans and machinations, does anyone actually put it past the power-hungry Dumb-o-crats to stoop to whatever tactics are necessary, to reclaim political power?

The only Republicans of note that think a conservative did this are Romney and Flake. Everyone else believes this ploy was a liberal plot, because there simply is no other discernible motive if the sender is sane.
That does leave open the possibility that a lunatic did this.

The DOJ has a policy of not releasing info that might affect elections. When do you think will hear who is responsible for the fake news events?

Breaking news! Just in it’s the Russians!!

one to DeNiro and two to Biden.

So somebody’s taking old Octopus Hands Biden seriously.

That’s so sweet.

    Colonel Travis in reply to tom_swift. | October 25, 2018 at 1:40 pm

    How do we know Joe Biden got two bombs? We’re talking about a guy who spells a three-letter word with four letters.

Will Fauxcahauntus find an arrow in her mailbox later today? She must be really depressed to have been left outside of the circled wagons, no wait, that is where she wants to be.

I’m thinking a pissed off Bernie bro … Mad at how the democrats did him dirty

Bombs that look like bombs, but lack substance and the capacity to actually harm anyone?

NPC bombs

today it was revealed that they were made out of PVC pipe, not steel. PVC! and all they had inside was sulfur, which does NOT explode on it’s own. (unlike actual black powder)
Fakity Fake Fake Fake.

This used to be called the “October Surprise”. Now it’s called “Fake News”. This is as obvious as the plot to get the hero in the old westerns! As Tom said above the bombs were made from PVC pipe with nothing but sulfur inside. Only in a dust cloud will sulfur explode. Also, there is no initiator that I can see on any of them. One paper had x-rays of them and there is nothing to them. If they were full of gunpowder and ball bearings/nails then they might have been a danger but these are Hollywood bombs.

Literally nothing about this is credible.

When you send out TEN bombs now without a single one exploding, you are not trying to blow anything up.

These things look like a stupid millennial googled ‘pipe bomb’ and tried to make it look Hollywood.

1) Made out of PVC, not anything that would actually contain the initial detonation for actual effect

2) pointless ‘scary’ black tape all around it

3) No padding to conceal the shape. This is a ‘bomb’ and they want you to know it

4) a TIMER on a bomb that was mailed. Seriously this is so stupid it’s mind-boggling. You do NOT put a timer on a bomb in the mail unless your intention is to blow up the post office or have it found by the police. There is effectively zero chance it would detonate at the handful of seconds it is in the possession of your alleged target before they open it

5) Said timer is external to the bomb instead of internal. Again, this is SCARY BOMB and they want you to know it

6) pointless ‘scary’ wires sticking up on both sides.

In short, literally nothing about this is credible as an actual explosive device or attempt to actually blow a target up. This is propaganda, now the only question is whether its some nut or a false flag by a liberal.

When we find out it was a left wing nut job doing this (similar to the Jewish guy responsible for all the bomb threats to Jewish Centers a year and a half ago), what will Zucker and the media say? Up until the Jewish guy was caught, media constantly said it was Trump making anti-semites comfortable in doing and saying what they have felt for years. After he was caught….crickets.

The same will happen here. Just like the softball game shooter, this person will be dismissed as a mental case not representative of lefties. Then silence.

I want to see the film of Jim Acosta throwing himself on top of the bomb screaming for his fellow journalists to run for it.

I can tell you one thing the couple of “devices” that have been shown would only explode if you hit them with a grenade.

My guess is that the Fibbies won’t find the perp (perps) anytime soon. I think it is a false flag, but it wasn’t carried out by nitwits; it was carried out by smart, well-funded bad boys.

Hell, Muller couldn’t even find the anthrax guy a decade or so ago, and I have so little respect for the FBI now that I don’t think they could find their a _ _ with both hands.

When all is said and done, much more is said than done. My guess is that the Dems will throw something else out between now and Nov. 6th, but my guess is also that Trump will dump something out there before election day as well.

It can’t be about any issues; the Dems have no issue that resonates with the electorate except (perhaps) health care. But that’s a secondary issue to be sure.

So, as I’m found of saying, nothing to see here; move along.

Jus an observation about postage. The visible components weigh more than six ounces, explosive not included.

There’s enough postage for three ounces.

So they weren’t mailed.

Next thing will be some seven year old kid chewing a piece of toast to look like a fake bomb. We’re all gonna die!!!

Are we sure they DIDN’T come from Debbie Wasserman Schultz.

Are they checking for traces of mayonnaise on the packets?

Would Debbie Weaselwords Schultz misspell Florida as “Florids” ?

OwenKellogg-Engineer | October 25, 2018 at 10:09 pm

Just a course of observations:
How come there is no cancellation on the stamps?
How come the photographer was scared to take the picture?
What’s with the Clorox wipes in all the pics of this device?

OwenKellogg-Engineer | October 25, 2018 at 10:10 pm

Just a couple….

OwenKellogg-Engineer | October 25, 2018 at 10:11 pm

Boy, I wish there was an edit/delete button :
How come the photographer wasn’t scared…

“4) Apparently these packages were both mailed and hand delivered. As to timing their delivery, that is pretty easy with the USPS.”

We’re going to find out that these bombs were sent by a right-wing nut. He mailed them to his targets during the Obama administration.

I am 100% sure that this theatrical fake bomb plot has been carried out by a Progressive. Any Conservative trying this stunt would have gone for the “Two Fer” by making all the bombs look exactly like Clockboy Mohammed’s fake Radio Shack bomb.

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