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Kavanaugh: New accusations are “ridiculous and from the Twilight Zone” (Updates)

Kavanaugh: New accusations are “ridiculous and from the Twilight Zone” (Updates)

“I don’t know who this is and this never happened.”

Yet another accuser has stepped forward. But this one isn’t even accusing Kavanaugh of doing anything to her. Julie Swetnick claims Kavanaugh was part of a group of boys who sexually assaulted girls at high school parties.

Swetnick’s claims, as reported by NBC:

During the years of 1981 and 1982 she said she learned of efforts by Kavanaugh, his friend Mark Judge and others “to spike the drinks of girls at house parties I attended with grain alcohol and/or drugs so as to cause girls to lose inhibitions and their ability to say ‘No.’ ”

Certain girls were targeted by those boys, and “it was usually a girl that was especially vulnerable because she was alone at the party or shy.”

Swetnick said these efforts by Kavanaugh and his buddy Judge were done so the girls “could then be ‘gang raped’ in a side room or bedroom by a ‘train’ of numerous boys.”

“I have a firm recollection of seeing boys lined up outside rooms at many of these parties waiting for their ‘turn’ with a girl inside the room. These boys included Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh,” Swetnick said.

She also said in her affidavit sent to the Senate Judiciary Committee that in approximately 1982 “I became the victim of one of these ‘gang’ or ‘train’ rapes where Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh were present.”

Swetnick has retained the services of fame-lusting porn lawyer, Michael Avenatti, who is demanding an FBI investigation.

Swetnick has not accused Kavanaugh of assaulting her, though Avenatti won’t admit to that exactly.


What Swetnick doesn’t say begs more questions:

From Law and Crime:

What Swetnick does not say, however, is also important. She doesn’t say how she knows about Kavanaugh and Judge allegedly spiking the punch. She does not say that Kavanaugh was the one who spiked her drink. She does not say when her alleged rape took place, simply saying that it was “In approximately 1982,” the same year that Kavanaugh is alleged to have assaulted Christine Blasey Ford. She also does not say that Kavanaugh himself raped her or did anything to her, or did anything to anyone else.

Another good question:

The NYT couldn’t corroborate her claims and it doesn’t help that Avenatti won’t make her available for an interview.

Kavanaugh responds:

Report from The Daily Wire:

This is ridiculous and from the twilight zone,” Kavanaugh said in a statement. “I don’t know who this is and this never happened.

Trump tweets:

Are we done yet?

Do we have a timeline issue?

60, yes 6-0, classmates and classmates of sister schools are signing a letter saying they don’t remember these parties nor do they have any memory of Swetnick

I’m not sure Democrats appreciate the damage they’re doing by pretending hearsay amounts to a credible accusation. It’s a dangerous path they’ve chosen.

But if there’s any consolation here, Democrat desperation level is currently sitting at “trot out skeezy porn lawyer.” So there’s that.


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No police report, it never happened.

    Joe-dallas in reply to Firewatch. | September 26, 2018 at 12:59 pm

    Multiple Gang Rapes
    Multiple girls
    Multiple parties with gang rapes

    Attempted rape of Christine Ford
    Stinking his privates in Ramirez’s face

    Zero police reports

    I am beginning to see a pattern

      Evan3457 in reply to Joe-dallas. | September 26, 2018 at 1:33 pm

      And neither she nor anyone else told their parents or anyone else’s parents. And neither she nor anyone else told anyone at any of the schools the participants went to. And despite seeing this happen to other women she never told girls at the other parties this might happen to then. And she kept going to the parties UNTIL she herself was gang raped.

      Not credible.

        AmandaFitz in reply to Evan3457. | September 26, 2018 at 1:54 pm

        The girls who went to these private schools in DC were by and large the daughters of high government officials. In my grade alone at Holton-Arms, we had the niece of the sitting Vice-President, the daughter of a Supreme Court Justice, and the daughter of a renowned General- and those were just the ones I knew about and in my grade.

        In other words, harm these girls and face the wrath of powerful fathers and mothers. Also, the trustees of these schools are themselves powerful in DC and would have expelled students immediately, fired the headmasters, and forced investigations.

        I am DISGUSTED that the DEMOCRATS have eschewed all decency and have slandered Brett Kavanaugh just because he is a constitutional originalist.

        These are the people who loved “Fifty Shades of Grey” (a “love” story centered around bondage), embraced letting boys and girls pretending to be transgender to share bathrooms, locker rooms and showers with the opposite sex, encouraging random sex and having an app for it.

        Who are they kidding when they (DEMOCRATS) pretend to be paragons of virtue over the FALSE allegations against Judge Brett Kavanaugh?

Wait – on Twitter this slimeball says his client is honest. Then on the show he says Kavanaugh should not be confirmed until his client’s charges have been vetted.

Is he so dumb that he gave away the reason of this charade (which we already knew), which isn’t to prove anything but to drag it out long enough to have the nomination fall apart?

I submit to you that, yes, he is that dumb.

If this was as prevalent as Aevantti suggests someone would have contacted the authorities at the time.

    Chuckin Houston in reply to davidw99. | September 26, 2018 at 1:19 pm

    I believe Ben Franklin said “Three People Can Keep a Secret If Two Of Them Are Dead”

    If a gang-rape had occurred at a party in my high school days, the whole school (900 students) would’ve heard about it within 1 or 2 days tops. And, the school administrators and law enforcement shortly thereafter

      Yup. What happens is everyone has 1 person they trust to “not tell a soul” and each is a different person for everyone.

      Fen tells Fuzzy, Fuzzy confides to Mac, Mac whispers to Leslie. Leslie shares it with the Prof, and on and on it goes, tell everyone on the website knows the secret.

      there is zero chance this happened with high school or college girls and did it become common knowledge

To my Dumb-o-crat friends — when a transparently self-serving, publicity-seeking, thoroughly-discredited, greasy jabroni-attorney sociopath emerges to present himself as a self-anointed Deux Ex Machina in your tragicomic farce, it is long past time to lower the curtain on the performance and leave the stage…

The guy certainly thinks very highly of himself.

    healthguyfsu in reply to healthguyfsu. | September 26, 2018 at 12:55 pm

    By the way, I’m basing this not off the interview but a dreadful look at his twitter feed to which I won’t venture again. I’ve rarely seen such narcissism on full display in my life, but when I do, it’s always a member of the protected class…and by that I mean devout progressive.

This tactic worked well against Moore, so expect it to be the normal way of things for any who dare oppose Democrats.

No police report. She claims to have known this was happening and yet attended a lot of parties with the same people anyway? Ah, what? She doesn’t say a thing about seeing Kavanaugh doing something. It is all by inference.

They all are saying the FBI should investigate, yet Kavanaugh had been investigated 6 times by them and nothing remotely like this stuff came up. Maybe the FBI needs to investigate, but it needs to investigate these women.

She also scrubbed her social media. Why?

If a gang rape ring was going on, we are supposed to believe that not one single victim ever came forward at that time?

This is your Democratic Party at work folks.

Declarations can be sworn all day long. I declare this guy is a dishonest slime ball.

I wonder how many others will climb out of the “Smear Kavanaugh” clown-mobile between now and the hearing that probably won’t take place tomorrow.

That is also not a sworn affidavit, no seal was attached, no court officer signed…

The porn star lawyer just making sure his name stays out there.

I’m happy. Gleeful. The Dumb-o-crats’ vanity and insatiable lust to strut and prove their anti-Trump/Kavanaugh bona fides, are going to be their undoing. The supposedly more “credible” accusations aren’t taking root as they’d like, having been undermined by a glaring paucity of factual and evidentiary supports, so, hey; why not go whole-hog, with some ridiculous, more wild accusation? All-or-nothing, like a desperate, degenerate gambler.

These nuts have gone off the deep end.

When a transparent charlatan such as Avennanti steps forward to claim his place in the spotlight as the Dumb’s self-anointed “savior,” the Dumbs’ bag of dirty tricks is empty. The Dumbs have played one card too many. It is over.

I posted a link to swetnick on and got suspended from reddit.

It’s possible it’s the wrong person, but strange things started happening. There were a lot of negative reviews of her. Really bad personal thing, going back to 2015.

Then there was a glowing review dated today.

Then the negative reviews started disappearing.

My suspension ends after the hearing tomorrow.

I posted on reddit, a link to

Why did she keep going to these parties?

Girls never drink or take drugs and have wild sex of their own volition?

Looking back, the suspension happened moments after I said I saved screenshots and would like help uploading them.

She did not write that statement…he did. She signed it. No doubt for a big payoff. What a scam.

    assemblerhead in reply to Elzorro. | September 26, 2018 at 1:14 pm

    After the Roy Moore accuser admitted to forging the signature “because “she needed the money” …. you knew this was going to happen again.

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    DaveP. says:

    Yep. When the Republican Caucus chimed in on the BS accusations against Moore to keep someone from the wrong social class from taking a Senate seat, they did more than hand a vote to the Dems: they legitimized the “thirty year old unprovable accusation with no actual evidence is legitimate” tactic for later use.

    Good job, guys. You kept your precious club intact.

Wait a damn minute! This woman says I have a firm recollection of seeing boys lined up outside rooms at many of these parties waiting for their ‘turn’ with a girl inside the room. These boys included Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh

She witnessed a gang-rape club at MANY of these parties, and said nothing, did nothing? Didn’t call the police to rescue her “sister” whom she KNEW was held captive in the room being gang-raped? What a complete louse!

Do you suppose the #MeToo movement is bright enough to call her out on that horse-hockey and savage her the same as any other perpetrator?

Or is she a hero for coming to the aid of the sisterhood, 35 years after the fact?

Man, she’s just the hero the #MeToo movement deserves.

I don’t think rape drugs were available in the early ‘80’s, but I could be wrong. And grain alcohol? If she means moonshine, you have to be some kind of absolute moron not to know it’s in your drink with the first sip.

    alaskabob in reply to Coolpapa. | September 26, 2018 at 1:32 pm

    PJ’s…..Purple Jesus….spiking the punch bowl with Everclear has been a cultural tradition forever. Historically humans Probably drank grains before they baked them.

    One word comes to me now… “Wicked”

    I really feel sad for those women really assaulted as I do for men wrongly accused.

      oldgoat36 in reply to alaskabob. | September 26, 2018 at 1:49 pm

      Sure, kids would spike punch with Everclear or vodka, but I guarantee you every single kid who was drinking the punch knew it was spiked. You couldn’t miss it.

      If the girls were drinking the punch it was because they wanted to, not because they were fooled about the punch being just punch.

        alaskabob in reply to oldgoat36. | September 26, 2018 at 2:06 pm

        Rats….reply button fat fingered down…sorry. TOTALLY agree…wink and nod …. “We were only drinking punch!” t

        So unacceptable acceptable behavior as a teen disqualifies as adult. Fortunately my Dad and Mom pasted away otherwise they could be arrested for giving alcohol to a minor. She and I tried to make grape juice and wound up with low class sparkling wine. When we had to host a funeral i suggested mixing the juice with 7-up and we did. I was 10.

        Valerie in reply to oldgoat36. | September 26, 2018 at 2:14 pm

        Sure you can drink spiked punch without noticing the taste. You just have to be stoned to do it.

        Of course, there is the small matter of knowing in advance the punch will be spiked, every time.

          alaskabob in reply to Valerie. | September 26, 2018 at 2:51 pm

          Then there was the med school party which I didn’t attend but the instigator told me of one med student not understanding the “Bozo the Clown” picture placed beside a plate of brownies… ate one. Ah, I could seriously say said underinformed med student was very intelligent but not smart. No harm, no foul and he had a mellow evening.

        Yup. Saw the exact same thing at my frat parties – frat bros spike punch, bros with long term girlfriends warn them, the girlfriends let all the other girls know the punch is spiked, especially the fruit in it.

        A gang rape “parties”. Never happened, and this Austin and New Orleans frats in the late 80’s. Totally unacceptable, anyone involved would have been socially ostracised. Even the typical frat douchebags wouldn’t tolerate that.

          Fen in reply to Fen. | September 26, 2018 at 3:29 pm

          We had a soccer player try to restrain one of our Big Sisters (Sorority girl assigned to shepherd one of our younger pledges through college life, similar to the girls who sponsored football players in highschool)… we had a soccer player pin her down on their first date. Soon as we heard about it, the entire frat was out looking for him, 4 of us found him and beat him so hard he had to drop out of school for medical treatment.

          I just don’t see this being permitted socially on any colleges campus. In secret, maybe. But not a routine publicity advertised party.

        2nd Ammendment Mother in reply to oldgoat36. | September 26, 2018 at 3:47 pm

        Since my rather tame upbringing disqualifies me from SCOTUS, I can admit that a college band party that may or may not have been hosted at my house featured a 50 gallon “punch bowl” of the annual Freshman Welcome Punch. The general rule was that freshmen brought Sprite and concentrated fruit juice, upperclassmen brought booze… everything goes in the bowl and it’s never exactly the same twice.

        So, here’s the rest of the story….. because of a university schedule change, the party fell on a Wednesday night and none of the upper classmen had gotten paid, so there was no booze. A couple of enterprising trombone players were filling old liquor bottles with water by the backdoor and sending them in through the front door and into the punch bowl with lots of fanfare.

        35 years later it’s still the most legendary party every hosted by our college band.

    I was class of 84, Highland Park (Tx). Rich kids. Cocaine was big. Ecstasy was the new thing.

    Spanish Fly was urban legend. If GHB or anything like it was available on the market, no one would have been a
    debating the effectiveness of Spanish fly.

      Fen in reply to Fen. | September 26, 2018 at 5:41 pm

      In the late 90s I worked the ER at Baylor Regional. About once a week we would get a young girl dumped by her “friends” who would die on our table from the lethality of mixing GHB or similar with alcohol.

      If these “parties” included date rape drugs, the local ERs would show a similar pattern in the early 80s. I doubt they do, because it wasn’t happening.

        Close The Fed in reply to Fen. | September 26, 2018 at 9:45 pm

        Once a week? My God, that’s a lot of dying girls. I had no idea that would be so frequent.

          No, that would be too many. I must be remembering a span where it was happening about once a week, and mistakenly extrapolating that out. But no way did it approach 52 that year. Closer to 12. Sorry about that, my mistake

“Beat the bushes.” This term originally alluded to hunting, when beaters were hired to flush birds out of the brush.

This hunting tactic dates back centuries, and is still employed today, in more ways than one.

Alinski didn’t describe this attack strategy in his writtings, but that’s exactly what Leftists are doing in their persistent attempt to smear Kavanaugh. And why not? Leftists hit the jackpot down in Alabama against Roy ‘trolling for jailbait’ Moore(R), even though he’d been unscathed in public service for 40+ years.

As I explained to my daughters when they were old enough, ‘All men are pigs when it comes to women. Some are simply more discplined than others.’

Many – far too many – men have done something stoopid with their zipper down. That’s what these Leftists and their smear tactics are counting on.

Leftists kicked start it with a female foil who makes a salacious allegation in hopes of ‘beating the bushes’ to flush out other women with similar tales.

Why? As I said, ” Many – far too many – men have done something stoopid with their zipper down.”

Leftists are just playing the odds. Plus, another allegation drags out the delays even longer.

Enough already. Confirm Kavanaugh this Friday. Leftists be damned.

All of this stuff was still at a time and place where if a girl told her parents, shotguns would be involved. Even in these posh communities. Multiple girls, multiple druggings, multiple boys; no witnesses, no parents ever heard of it and got to the cops or took any action whatsoever?
In 1982?

3 years older than the Kav. This is bullshit. She is just another leftist kook.

    iconotastic in reply to Elzorro. | September 26, 2018 at 1:21 pm

    So she was an adult having sex with minors then?

    Isn’t there some sort of law about that? I could be mistaken, of course.

    Evan3457 in reply to Elzorro. | September 26, 2018 at 1:36 pm

    That’s an interesting point. 18, 19-year old women don’t go to parties with 15- and 16-year old boys. They go to parties with college boys.

Avenatti shouldn’t have gotten involved. Now Trump will fight tooth and nail to have Kavanaugh confirmed.

Avenatti shouldn’t have gotten involved. Now Trump will fight tooth and nail to have Kavanaugh confirmed.

In every single one of these alleged events, all three accusers, while claiming to personally know Kavanaugh and his friend(s) so well that they can remember him/them perfectly well and what they looked like after 35+ years, not a single one of them reported any portion of their allegations to anyone in authority at any time.

Not to the police – not to school teachers/counselors – not to their parents – not to their BFF’s – and not even to Kavanaugh’s or his friend’s parents. No one.

Every single one of them just let it ride for 35+ years with nary a concern for any other girl whom may potentially be “victimized” by these heinous sexual assault and “gang rape” suspects. And now, right at the cusp of Brett Kavanaugh being confirmed as a new SCOTUS Justice — suddenly they’re falling out of the sky like manna from heaven for the Democrats.

I predict a massive red wave in November. There’s just gotta be after this demonìc depravity. There’s just gotta be!

The rooms were bathrooms. The girls were in the bathroom taking forever while the guys who drank beer were standing there trying to hid it til they finally came out. Girls take an hour.

Girls just continued to go to parties where they were drugged and gang-raped?

Why does this sound like a remake of the 1980s daycare child abuse hysteria, re-interpreted for teens?

    The timing is about right… these could be the same people making shit up. Understandable for a little kid to get coached into it by an authority figure… absolutely despicable and repugnant for a grown adult to be engaging in this shit.

The “train” thing is interesting.Did Avenatti ever use that term before the 4chan claim that they hoaxed him?

thalesofmiletus | September 26, 2018 at 1:35 pm

I’m not sure Democrats appreciate the damage they’re doing by pretending hearsay amounts to a credible accusation.

Judge: Mr. Hutz we’ve been in here for four hours. Do you have any evidence at all?

Lionel Hutz: Well, Your Honor, we’ve plenty of hearsay and conjecture. Those are kinds of evidence…

Bucky Barkingham | September 26, 2018 at 1:37 pm

The Leftists don’t need credible accusations, they just need enough to peel off 2 RINO votes.

It’s a dangerous path they’ve chosen.

It’s not particularly dangerous to them.

I’m sure ol’ Baldy is dealing with pure gold. First he represents a porn star nationally, now he represents a media whore.

I’m beginning to sense a trend here.

None of it matters. It’s just like those James O’Keefe tapes. It’s all about delaying and providing a fig leaf no votes.

The left is beyond pretending now and going full 3rd world thuggery. Crawl across glass and make the pay in Nov. They need to lose seats.

Kemberlee wrote: “skeezy porn lawyer”

His official title is “Creepy Porn Lawyer.” Please give Mr. Avenatti the respect he deserves.

I hope the RINOs are happy.

You were told, EXPLICITLY, that exactly this was going to happen when you let it work on Roy Moore.

    Close The Fed in reply to Olinser. | September 26, 2018 at 9:51 pm

    McConnell didn’t want Moore, because Moore is SERIOUS about constitutional government.

    last thing McConnell wanted. He works against Tea Party candidates every time I’m aware of the race.

Parsing the “Declaration” of JULIE SWETNICK VERY carefully, here are the ways I would attack it if this were a Court case:

FIRST: Note – This IS NOT an Affidavit. She declares it is “under penalty of perjury and under the laws of the United States.” We need to parse the Statutory Declaration laws to see if that’s accurate. Why not make it an affidavit, and have it notarized, giving it the full force of appearance before a person sworn to administer an OATH? But, assuming that it will be entertained:

1.)Spends almost the ENTIRE first page trying to bolster her “credibility” through talking about her clearances. (Strike for Relevance / Surplussage)

2.) Spends Paragraph 6 discussing why Mark Judge should be subpoenaed. (Strike for Relevance) Who was WITH Kavanaugh is irrelevant, WHAT Kavanaugh was DOING is the only relevant thing to these proceedings.

3.)Paragraph 7: alleges that Kavanaugh and Judge drank alcohol “excessively” and engage in “highly inappropriate conduct” and “not taking no for an answer” and including “fondling and grabbing of girls without their consent.” – Weak, but FINALLY an actual claim of witnessing conduct. So she SHOULD be able to point to someone who was the RECIPIENT of that conduct (which isn’t her as you read). (Strike for lack of personal knowledge, and vagueness) How do you KNOW that it was without their consent? BRING THAT/THOSE PERSON(S) FORWARD. What constitutes “highly inappropriate conduct” beyond the attempted removal of clothes you have already testified as to witnessing?

4.)Paragraph 8: See paragraph 7 (basically restates paragraph 7 in a different way. (strike for Vagueness) WHAT WERE THE EXACT COMMENTS?

5.) Paragraph 9: Strike First Sentence (Heresay). Strike remainder for Vagueness (no “where” or “when,” Ocean City is a BIG place).

6.) Paragraph 10. Strike for Surplussage. Restates the previous allegations in a different manner. Strike language regarding his public statement being a lie (it’s inferred by the fact that she’s making this Affidavit). Strike for Vagueness (I’m sure that you, as the Affiant, can come up with at least ONE specific date). Just ONE, little date of occurrence.

7.) Paragraph 11. Strike for Heresay. “I became aware of” indicates a lack of PERSONAL knowledge which is required for an affidavit, and “OTHERS” lumps them into a category. (Strike for surplussage). Either say “I saw Kavanaugh do Y” or don’t. Her alleged witnessing of efforts to “target” particular girls doesn’t DESCRIBE those efforts. It’s a classic attempt to join two statements of conduct together and get the reader to “link” the two conducts without actually swearing to the conduct.

8. Paragraph 12. Again, conflates the efforts of “Kavanaugh, Judge AND OTHERS” together. Strike for surplussage. We’re ONLY talking about KAVANAUGH. Either say “I saw Kavanaugh do Y” or don’t. Further, strike “I have a firm recollection ….” and “These boys included Mark Judge and Brett Kavanaugh” (Strike “Mark Judge and” for Surplussage).

9.) Paragraph 13. Move to Strike IN ITS ENTIRETY for relevance. It DOES NOT claim that Kavanaugh was a participant in the sexual assault that is claimed. Either say “I was raped by Brett Kavanaugh, or don’t.”

10.) Paragraph 14. Strike for vagueness. LIST the OTHER PEOPLE who can testify to these alleged acts. Don’t just state “well, they exist.”

    The Shorter version of her “Sworn Statement:”

    I have Personal Knowledge of the statements contained herein.

    I attended Parties with Brett Kavanaugh 1981-1983 in Washington DC. At those parties I witnessed Brett Kavanaugh drink excessively, dance and grind against girls at these parties, make rude sexual comments, and fondle girls who sometimes said no in front of me.” I also witnessed this conduct in Ocean City, MD one year during Beach Week. I was not one of the girls that he fondled or groped.

    I was later raped at one of these parties where Brett Kavanaugh was attending. Brett Kavanaugh did not rape me.

    penalty of perjury, etc… etc….

I’d love to hear Ms. Mitchell question her.

I’ve never been objective about rape. I don’t know why, but I do know that I could never serve on a rape jury.

If I’d been aware of anyone doing that in my presence, I’d have cut them to pieces. I can’t be alone in that.

    Agree completely.

    But how is that not what you condemn as “fantasy violence” ?

    Perhaps in the future you shouldnt be so quick to damn others.

      The down-vote is from me, in this instance. Fen, Play nice.

      But how is that not what you condemn as “fantasy violence” ?

      There’s a difference between a fantasy of violence, and knowing how you would react to certain situations that occur in your presence. Some people have triggers regarding certain conduct. I known mine. It sounds like Rags knows at least one of his.

      There is certain conduct that civilized people simply do not tolerate occurring around them. Depending on those individual’s levels of restraint in action will dictate the level of response (from a verbal rebuke to physical violence).

        It’s still a double standard, Chuck.

        And once you are willing to play outside the Rule of Law, you no longer get to adjudicate which acts of violence are acceptable and which are not.

        If you believe death is an acceptable punishment for sexual assault, you have no right to condemn those who believe death is an acceptable punishment for treason.

          Ragspierre in reply to Fen. | September 26, 2018 at 4:21 pm

          What a massive load of bullshit…!!!

          So protecting your own life or the life of another is just like killing or harming the children of people you think are your enemies, which is EXACTLY what you’ve done more than once on these threads?

          That’s both nuts and disgusting. But you’ll try anything.

          Fen in reply to Fen. | September 26, 2018 at 6:01 pm

          Rags: “So protecting your own life or the life of another is just like killing or harming the children of people you think are your enemies, ”

          No Rags.

          Protecting your own life or the life of another is just like
          protecting your own life or the life of another.

          My earlier point was that people who operate outside the Rule of Law are no longer protected by the Rule of Law. And that if they targeted our loved ones then their loved ones were also in play.

          And I specifically said that if they stayed in bounds or were acting in good faith, that they should not be touched.

          Naturally, you distorted all that.

          Note that I have not distorted your similar position.

          Fen in reply to Fen. | September 26, 2018 at 6:13 pm

          More specifically, if a prosecutor threatens to trump up charges on a defendant’s children to extort a confession, then his own children are now in play.

          And while I am open to arguments that philosophy is abhorrent and should be condemned, anyone who believes it’s okay to murder a rapist forfeits the right to make those arguments.

          Ragspierre in reply to Fen. | September 26, 2018 at 6:19 pm

          You are so massively full of shit it is hard to believe.

          You lie about what you say, then you accuse me of “distortion”!

          But typical of you…

          “My earlier point was that people who operate outside the Rule of Law are no longer protected by the Rule of Law. And that if they targeted our loved ones then their loved ones were also in play.”

          Which is both evil and insane. The little kids of some criminal are fair game if the criminal threatens me?

          You are simply evil and irrational.

          Fen in reply to Fen. | September 26, 2018 at 7:03 pm

          “The little kids of some criminal are fair game if the criminal threatens me?”

          What? No.

          If some criminal threatens your children, his own children are in play.

          The point is to remind these people that they can’t ruin the lives of our loved ones and then go back to their own lives with assumption that retaliation in-kind is out of bounds.

          Which is what is happening now and why it will continue.

          Ragspierre in reply to Fen. | September 26, 2018 at 7:07 pm

          You’re just as sick as Avenatti. “By any means…”

        Ragspierre in reply to Chuck Skinner. | September 26, 2018 at 6:28 pm

        “…anyone who believes it’s okay to murder a rapist forfeits the right to make those arguments.”

        Again, another example of your insanity.

        If I caught a rapist in the act and killed him (or even her) in the process of stopping them, that cannot be “murder”. So that’s a lie, right there.

        That is so vastly different than your fantasy of killing political enemies’ (as you perceive them) children that it simply makes reason stare.

        You are really sick.

          That’s not what you said earlier. You said you would “slice them up”, not merely stop them. And not as a last resort.

          If you went hyperbolic to underline how much you despise rapists, fine. But don’t lie about it when we scroll up and read it for ourselves.

          Correction, cut them to pieces, not slice:

          “If I’d been aware of anyone doing that in my presence, I’d have cut them to pieces.” – Rags

          No last resort, no self-defense. Just murder.

          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | September 26, 2018 at 7:15 pm

          Another careful, obvious lie.

          I didn’t say I’d kill them. I doubt I’d have to.

          You’re really pathetic. Such a dedicated, obdurate liar.

          You can’t deal with any of this honestly.

          “Cut them to pieces” without killing them?

          Now you’re just silly. Just admit to hyperbole. Geez.

          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | September 26, 2018 at 7:28 pm

          Admit you are a liar.


          Demonstrable? I just thought we were going Wolverine on the rapist. You’re the one who says you’ll cut him into pieces and leave him alive.

          Can you explain what you mean in more detail? You’re going to what, Alice off his nose, his ears, his penis, maybe his hands and feet? Pieces, you said… sounds like torture, and you’re calling ME depraved? LOL.

      Ragspierre in reply to Fen. | September 26, 2018 at 4:14 pm

      “When I see an out-of-control fire, my gut impulse is to put it out”.

      “My political enemies should remember that everything they own can burn”.

      See now…???

        Up your game, Rags. You are smarter than this.

        The difference is our motive

        1) you would murder the rapist to stop and punish him

        2) I would do the same, but also to send a message to all would-be rapists.

        And we both know both positions are wrong – we are not supposed to use disproportionate force to prevent sexual assault. There is no legal defense to “slicing him up” as you put it.

        You are out of bounds, along with me. Doesn’t matter if its 5 yards or 15. Welcome to my realm. There be monsters here. Now put a new pot of coffee for us, and mind the Dragon.

        Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | September 26, 2018 at 6:38 pm

        My motive is to put out the fire.

        Your’s is to intimidate your political enemies.

        You have no game… You’re just sick and despicable.

          Rags, you’re just as bad as Fen

          (I’ve always wanted to do that. Hehe)

          New tagline!

          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | September 26, 2018 at 7:22 pm

          But I am demonstrably not as bad as you.

          You are a sick, lying, Avennati-like crazy. I am not.

          Demonstrable? I just thought we were going Wolverine on the rapist. You’re the one who says you’ll cut him into pieces and leave him alive.

          Can you explain what you mean in more detail? You’re going to what, slice off his nose, his ears, his penis, maybe his hands and feet? Pieces, you said… sounds like torture, and you’re calling ME depraved? LOL.

          Rags: “My motive is to put out the fire”

          Nope. For your own metaphor, putting out the fire = stopping the rape.

          You said you want to cut him into pieces. That’s way beyond preventing a rape.

          Rags the Vivesectionist. I think I read about your kind in Thieve’s World.


          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | September 27, 2018 at 1:44 am

          You know, it’s funny. This is all just a game to you. You’d say anything to try to “win”. But you are really a sick, lying, cowardly hater who actually does fantasize about killing or hurting the families of people you perceive as your enemies.

          You’ve lied about it in the past, and been busted in your lie.

          In your world, I guess you “win”. I can’t imagine living in that cesspool.

    Wow, tough guy!

    Too bad you’re not tough enough to stand up against an Avenatti instead of telling us what an exceptional lawyer he is.

    Clue: Avenatti and anyone associated with him is a scumbag.

      Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | September 26, 2018 at 4:28 pm

      I’m tough enough to identify you as a liar, liar.

      I won’t stand for you lying about me just because you irrationally hate me.

        Hey tough guy, are you denying you said Avenatti was a well respected lawyer, or words to that effect?

        Oh, might as well go ahead and deny that you said the porn queen, Stormy, was a fine director.
        Go ahead, lie about it.

          Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | September 27, 2018 at 1:30 am

          Yes. You lie like a wet dog.

          I said he was an effective trial lawyer.

          What I have also told you…more than once…is that John O’Quinn is one of the most effective trial lawyers in Texas history. Any lawyer has to admire his skills. I despise O’Quinn as a person.

          He was another liar.

          Ragspierre in reply to Barry. | September 27, 2018 at 1:35 am

          What I have said, and it’s just the plain truth, is that Daniels is a successful writer, actor, director, and producer of porn.

          You delight in lying. You know it when you do it, and you don’t have a scruple about it.

The story already is falling apart. If you take her at her word, she just admitted to being an adult at a teenagers’ party where alcohol was being served and rape was taking place.

And she did nothing.

She was 19 and 20 in 1981 and 1982.

What was an adult woman doing partying with high school kids, from expensive, clique-ish private schools that were 15- 20 miles away from her own high school (Gaithersburg)?

And why in hell, after attending 10 of these parties in 1981 and 1982 and witnessing minor girls routinely being drugged and sexually assaulted and gang-raped, did this woman keep going to these parties?

Only an idiot like Avenatti could believe this patent nonsense. And probably not even he is this dumb.

    Granny in reply to Observer. | September 26, 2018 at 3:03 pm

    The ONLY reason that I can think of that this adult woman kept going to these “parties” is that she was the individual providing the booze and the venue and the girls to be gang-raped.

    I can tell you right now that my daughters, who were high school age at about that time, would have NEVER have gone back to such an event after the first time and they absolutely would have told me and then told the police.

    This is HOGWASH.

    Walker Evans in reply to Observer. | September 26, 2018 at 10:22 pm

    “And why in hell, after attending 10 of these parties in 1981 and 1982 and witnessing minor girls routinely being drugged and sexually assaulted and gang-raped, did this woman keep going to these parties?”

    The most obvious answers:
    1) She was the one organizing these parties and supplying the booze, or:
    2) She herself was sexually excited (ie, “got off”) by this type of activity, and sought it out, or;
    3) Both of the above.

    Based on her more recent history, there appears to be a good chance that #3 is the most likely to be correct.

I had the pleasuere of voting against every democrat on my ballot today. Mailed in.FL.

    redc1c4 in reply to Elzorro. | September 26, 2018 at 2:18 pm

    how sweet…

    you actually think it will get counted. 😉

    I hope there’s a shot at unseating Cantwell in WA. Susan Hutchison (R) is a popular and well-loved former TV personality and RNC party chair for WA.

      Mike H. in reply to MrE. | September 26, 2018 at 4:42 pm

      We’re hoping!

      ss323 in reply to MrE. | September 26, 2018 at 7:05 pm

      Ditto on Cantwell. I am of two minds on senator Patty Murray. She has to be the most thoroughly stupid person in congress. As blue as WA has become it may be best to leave her be, undoubtedly any replacement is not likely to be as simple minded.

Again, no specifics. She attended 8-10 of these gang rape parties and no told anyone that this was going on? She can’t name a single person who attended? Did she go alone or with a “friend” whose name escapes her but also liked to attend rape parties? And having “heard” of what was going on, she drank the punch anyway?

How stupid does a person have to be to believe a word of this? If this doesn’t work, is the next bombshell going to involve a gang shooting that was not reported, where dozens of people were shot (off record, of course), and only one person knows of it because she was the only one who heard of it and from someone whose name she can’t recall?

Can it get any crazier?

in the time frame she claims, she was an adult, drinking & (apparently) having sex with minors…


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This is up on GP — is this possible?

Sen. Jeff Merkley will file a lawsuit Wednesday to stop Judge Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation process, citing what he believes to be unconstitutional presidential interference.

Merkley’s office said the lawsuit will argue that the Trump administration’s unprecedented withholding of substantial parts of Kavanaugh’s record has violated the constitutional separation of powers by preventing senators from fulfilling their constitutional duty of advice and consent on the president’s nominee to the Supreme Court.

    healthguyfsu in reply to MAB. | September 26, 2018 at 2:48 pm

    No basis…except to delay.

    gbm in reply to MAB. | September 26, 2018 at 4:54 pm

    Someone needs to give the good senator a copy of the Constitution.

    Article One, Section 5 of the United States Constitution: “Each House may determine the Rules of its Proceedings, punish its Members for disorderly Behavior, and, with the Concurrence of two thirds, expel a member.”

    Judges and Courts have no power to compel the Senate.

    Milhouse in reply to MAB. | September 26, 2018 at 11:26 pm

    1. No judge has the authority to entertain such a motion.

    2. Should some arrogant judge entertain it anyway, any injunction he issues against the senate will be sent to the circular file. McConnell will never allow any judge to dictate to the senate. (Nor will Pence, whose decision it would technically be.) He may be kind enough not to move a contempt charge against the judge.

Of all the boys in the “train” she can only recall Kavanaugh and Judge?

It’s also being floated around that she graduated in 1980…what was she going to high school parties in 1982 for??

Now it comes out she is/was in financial trouble….Who is paying her?

Why are we always caught flat footed? Don’t we have the means to uncover who is funding these women and bring all this out into the light?

Create an echo chamber of unsubstantiated allegations and only-tangentially-related claims.

…just like in the Roy Moore case.

Creepy Porn Lawyer

Chuckin Houston | September 26, 2018 at 3:13 pm

Julie Swetnick graduated high school 3 years before Kavanaugh and Judge and was in college when these wild high school parties are alleged to have occurred. She was over the age of consent while the young men were under that age.

Also she claimed that the tactic was to spike girl’s drinks with alcohol and perhaps other substances (not sure date rape drugs were known back then). Until 1983 18 year olds could purchase booze in Montgomery County Maryland. She was old enough to supply the alcohol while Kavanaugh and Judge were too young.

If such parties occurred she was possibly the organizer. Maybe she entertained at bachelor parties too as a means of paying her way through school.

I have read many of the comments and all of the articles on this site. Senators, activists and others have called for a complete FBI investigation in to these allegations.

The FBI has completed at least six backgrounds during Kavanaugh’s career. Question these agents and/or review the reports.

Why did they miss or fail to report these allegations? Did the agents hide this information? Were the accusers ever interviewed? Did any of the names in all of these articles ever appear in an FBI report? If not, who did the FBI talk to about Kavanaugh?

I used this question many times during my career: Is there anything I have not asked you about or is there anything you want to add to my investigation that will impact my decision to hire/fire/recommend the person we have been discussing.

How did the FBI miss approximately 36 gang rapes a year (most weekends during the school year) while Kavanaugh was in college. She attended at least ten.

    PrincetonAl in reply to Harley. | September 26, 2018 at 3:31 pm

    Great points! I say put her on the stand ASAP and let’s find out the answers to these questions and more! (… and I think everyone knows the answers)

    But seriously – Let’s confirm Kavanaugh on Friday and investigate her claims anyway … just for the entertainment value of having her destroyed under oath.

    Nothing would clear BK faster than watching the Accusation Train go fully off the rails.

    Thank you, Harley. These are some of the same questions I have been asking. If this was going on, why did she keep going to “gang rape” parties and not report it to someone in authority, especially after she had already left for college? Another question that keeps coming to mind is why only one single girl would be present at an all boys party. She’s shy? Isn’t it more likely that she would not even consider going alone to such a party? Dr. Ford is claiming that she was a 15 year old girl, alone at a drinking party with 17 year old boys. What was the expectation here? It beggars belief that these girls had no idea what was likely to happen.

    This whole episode is shameful on both sides, on Democrats for their deceit and on Republicans for their spinelessness. If Brett Kavanaugh gets “Borked,” how much more will they do to whomever Trump nominates next? I used to think Democrats were just clueless, but now I think they’re despicable. Destroying a person’s life is extremely serious business, but it seems that Democrats are quite cavalier about it, even as their own icons can’t stand up to scrutiny. Republicans should have slammed the door on Democrat’s clown car antics before the elephants got out of the tent. Now, they’ve been allowed to run amok and turn this into Tabloid fodder. As I said, shameful.

    Colonel Travis in reply to Harley. | September 26, 2018 at 4:19 pm

    How did the FBI miss approximately 36 gang rapes a year (most weekends during the school year) while Kavanaugh was in college.

    There are only two possibilities.

    1.) They were up to their eyeballs investigating the theft of 14 billion quarters stolen from the Tooth Fairy’s home. Do you seriously not understand how long it takes to trace the origins of 14 billion quarters and interview witness?

    2.) There weren’t any gang rapes.

    I’m leaning heavily toward #1 but I cannot rule out #2 yet.

    JusticeDelivered in reply to Harley. | September 26, 2018 at 5:57 pm

    “Julie Swetnick. She is courageous, brave and honest.” is comparable to thinking the same of Avenatti. How about a focused effort to see this slime bag disbarred? Jail would be even better.

We are now at the McMartin preschool case.

In all of this, it all boils down to he said-she said and there is nothing anyone can do about it. Everyone in America knows this and the only thing left is the two parties actions under questioning. A woman telling an emotional account, real or not, will have a huge advantage over a male denying the account. Kavanaugh is sort of wooden and I see him reacting in an “Insulted party” way. This may hurt his presentation. This is a given and the GOP should take it into account before they vote. No matter this is a lose-lose moment in our political history and a mark of shame on the Demorats.

    It is NOT he said-she said.

    That phrase describes a situation where there is no disagreement that there was sex, but he says it was consensual, and she says it wasn’t.

    Here, he is saying it never happened. Big, big difference.

The Democrats have no shame. It’s scorched earth for them as a means to power and to undermine th President, with the Republicans acting as their willing dupes.

Clearly Judge Kav was the leader of a team of 14 and 15 year old drug dealers and rapists from Georgetown Prep. Thank goodness they have finally been captured after 35 years on the loose.

    You need a Sarcasm tag.

    Maybe, but without corroborating testimony and physical evidence, we must conclude that the allegations are not credible, therefore not viable, and should be summarily aborted. Warlock hunts are unconstitutional.

      Elzorro in reply to n.n. | September 26, 2018 at 5:03 pm

      We must get this gang off the streets. Reopen Alcatraz. The Judge and his gang of 15 year old terrorists have been caught at last. Much worse than MS13, Crips, Bloods. This notorious Georgetown Prep Rape Gang shall meet its end. They did this as fresmen. Who knows what they did when they were Juniors? The lines were longer than a Trump Rally….wait, what about those Trump Rally lines? What are they really lined up for? Better put Rachel Maddcow on this case.

    I bought dime bags from his kids: Chelsea Clinton was with them.

    thalesofmiletus in reply to windbag. | September 26, 2018 at 5:54 pm

    This whole thing is gaslight on steroids.

    Walker Evans in reply to windbag. | September 26, 2018 at 9:28 pm

    Someone who believes polygraph tests can establish the truth is someone who knows nothing about polygraph testing. There is a reason they are not allowed to be used as evidence in court.

OK I read her full statement. She said she attended well over 10 gang rape parties between 1981-83. She said she was gang raped herself in “approximately 1982” and drugged and unable to fight off any boy gang raping her.

She was so traumatized…

…that she went to more gang rape parties the rest of that year and the following year.

Insert Picard facepalm photo here.

I understand that the Dumb-o-crat Party is going to start a “Book-of-the-Month”-type club, their political fiction is so universally-lauded for its creativity.

This isn’t about facts or logic. The audience (democrats, socialists, leftists, progressives, et al) this is intended for operate on emotion. The democrat party leaders are munchausen by proxy parents, feeding their kids poison to maintain control and power over them. This is the worst I’ve ever seen it, thanks to a new strain of crazy, Trump Derangement Syndrome.

Connivin Caniff | September 26, 2018 at 3:52 pm

Finally, a Supreme Court Justice who really knows how to party! Oh, I’m supposed to take this seriously? I have the feeling that the ultimate punchline in this joke will be “Chickens?!!”

The Twilight fringe (a.k.a. penumbra), from where the Twilight Amendment (e.g. selective-child or unPerson of human lives before a threshold of convenience), Twilight faith (i.e. conflation of logical domains), diversity or color judgments including racism, political congruence or selective exclusion, etc. originate. In Stork they trust.

I was going to suggest that next the unhinged Left might accuse the judge of baby killing, but then I remembered that they are ‘for’ that — and in fact that is why they oppose him.

I was a high school kid in the same time period (Class of 1983) and I don’t seem to recall any “date rape” drugs available back then…..pot and acid, perhaps but you were too paranoid or weirded out to be around anyone else!

Democrats: “Open the floodgates of accusation! Release the Kraken!”

This is what desperate people do when in a panic.

Question for lawyers – Does the affidavit mean anything? Must it be submitted to some body before there is a risk of perjury, or is it just the illusion of someone taking the same risk as sworn testimony at this point?

Why should the FBI investigate now if they failed to turn up anything like these allegations during their first SIX!

Lots of Dims have been demanding an FBI investigation.

I think they’re right. There does need to be an FBI investigation. The sleazebag lawyers (Katz, Avenatti, etc.) and others who are aiding and abetting this ludicrous Dim smear of Kavanaugh need to be investigated, and they and the false accusers (and Soros or whoever else is funding this garbage) need to be criminally charged and prosecuted. ASAP.

Believe All Women

4th accuser confirms all! Classmate named “Jackie” tells of horrid night with Kavanaugh-led Duke Lacrosse team. Rolling Stone exclusive.

Believe all women!

So when this accuser was 20 she spent every weekend attending sex and drug parties with 14,15 and 16 year olds…..sounds kinda rapey and I’m NOT talking about Kavanaugh

So Julie Sweatnick confesses to everything she is accusing Kavanaugh of?

Neither ome raped anyone, neither one spiked the punch. Both attended the party?

Difference is, Kavanaugh denies and maintains innocence. Sweatnick admits she participated in these “gang rape” parties.

And she has the gall to ask we respect her privacy?

Where does she work? Is this monster a teacher? Does she run a day care?

Why is a 19 1/2 year old in college (albeit community college) going to parties with 15 year olds where girls are being gang raped and drugged and goes back 10 times?

Big league politics have uncovered documents that show she was the defendant in domestic violence and defamation charges.Plaintiff was one Richard Vinneccy.

Also, Avenatti has been asked by Judicial Committee SIX times to have her talk to them.He has refused

UPDATE – so apparently Ford’s lawyers have released her opening statement.

It LITERALLY SAYS that Kavanaugh came up in therapy because when they were remodeling their house she wanted a 2nd front door and her husband didn’t.

This is beyond parody.

    dmi60ex in reply to Olinser. | September 26, 2018 at 7:47 pm


    Thank God,he didn’ t want a new garage ,Kavanaugh would have been hit up with the Lindbergh kidnapping ,JFK assassination ,amd Jimmy Hoffa to boot.

    murkyv in reply to Olinser. | September 26, 2018 at 8:26 pm

    CPL got to liking his several-a-day appearances on CNN and MSNBC when Stormy was all the rage.

    Now that she’s fading from the limelight, he had to do something to get his smarmy mug back in front of the cameras.

    To “break” this “affidavit” on The View speaks tons about it’s credibility

    Observer in reply to Olinser. | September 26, 2018 at 9:40 pm

    She needed a second front door to be able to escape from Kavanaugh!

    This woman is supposed to be a professional psychologist, and yet she believed that a drunken teenage boy who allegedly groped her briefly at a party nearly 40 years ago was still a physical threat to her. She’s now a middle-aged woman in her 50’s. Her alleged attacker is now a 53-year old, married-with-kids federal judge who has had zero contact with Ford since this alleged attack in high school. No rational person, let alone a psychologist, could believe that this man was still a threat to Ford’s safety.

    Yet we’re supposed to believe that Ford has been demanding extra “escape” doors be built in her house, and researching moving to New Zealand, all so that she could get away from Kavanaugh, a man she hasn’t seen or heard from in 36 or so years, and a man who almost certainly would not have recognized Ford at age 50+ if she had walked up to him and introduced herself.

    Even if we ignored all the inconsistencies and contradictions in Ford’s version of the alleged attack, her response to the alleged attack, all these decades later is completely irrational.

Does the “piling on” of Ramirez and Sputnik and the obvious buffoonery of their stories, move Murkowski, Collins, Corker, and/or Flake to put their foot down and green-light Kavanaugh?

Good question MrE. I read today that Murkowski was huddled for quite some time with Di Fi, so I wouldn’t bet on it. Flake and Corker will do anything to spite Trump and Collins is just a fruitcake.

Avenatti should really stick to writing scripts for porn movies…

I would have said “kafkaesque,” but God only knows what the newsies would make of it.

So many questions: Why would a 20-21year old college student attend parties with 16-18 year old high school students? Gaithersburg is about 10 miles form Bethesda, totally different socio-economic class – how did she even know about the parties? If the parties were what she claims, why did she keep going? What color is her new BMW?

    Chuckin Houston in reply to bw222. | September 26, 2018 at 8:51 pm

    Perhaps she knew about the parties because she was the one who organized them. She was over 18 and could legally buy booze in quantity. As a college student she likely had access to better drugs than prep school boys and she could have provided the down and dirty action for an appropriate fee.

Oh my gosh, another accusation “letter” from an alleged fourth victim. I am literally sick at the injustice here. These women are sick, either because they are lying, or because they were so weak that they could not stand up for what was right at any time before now. This should have stopped with Roy Moore.

I am seething. I have never felt this degree of animosity and hatred toward anyone before. I hate my sex. I hate these “women.” I hate the denizens of the swamp. I need a drink.

smalltownoklahoman | September 26, 2018 at 8:21 pm

I hope, I really do hope come November that the Dems receive an electoral beating the likes of which this country has never seen before! This damned disgusting farce should never have been allowed to devolve to a point like this! About the only good I can see coming from this is that maybe this will wake up a lot people in this country to what depths these scumbags will sink to in order to acquire power and that the American public summarily rejects it!

    Colonel Travis in reply to smalltownoklahoman. | September 26, 2018 at 9:07 pm

    I think that could happen but the (R)s need to confirm him. Otherwise, if they can’t stand up to this farce, they never will. This is where leadership needs to step in. Everyone with influence must convince on-the-fence goofballs to wake the hell up.

      Close The Fed in reply to Colonel Travis. | September 26, 2018 at 9:18 pm

      Colonel, I will note that I called my Georgia senators Isakson and Perdue, asking them to go out and speak up for Kav.

      As far as I’m aware, Isakson the “I’m all for me” hasn’t, while Perdue was on Breitbart yesterday, voicing his support for Kav.

    Close The Fed in reply to smalltownoklahoman. | September 26, 2018 at 9:16 pm

    Sure, Trump and Kav are fighting like hell, but even Trump can’t get a proper wall.

    All he’s getting is the easy to climb, easy to cut, bollard fencing.


Julie Swetnick went to Gaithersburg High School! Did you hear me, Gaithersburg, of all places ! Definitely not in the same social circles as those who attend Georgetown Prep and Holton Arms. They are not even geographically that close which begs the question, why was she at those parties with younger students? Maybe she was the entertainment and was there not to witness gang rape, but to be the gang bangee, per chance?

They’re not even trying any more. Surely they don’t expect anyone to actually believe this woman; she’s just a placeholder, accuser #3, a transparent excuse to disrupt.

Let’s get this straight. She was an adult, and routinely attended parties where she knew sooner or later she’d end up having sex with minor boys. But she’s the victim and they’re the abusers?

this brave girl’s got a history of this, and connected with Ford’s lawyer:

Is misprision still on the books in Maryland? And was Avenatti absent the day his class covered it in law school?

Someone is really missing the boat on this. Where is the RUSSIAN connection? Now that would stick to the wall!

Can we take bets on when CBF’s hubby files for divorce? She is in the upper left corner of the hot-crazy matrix by now.

This seems to remind me of the musical Chicago, especially the scene where Richard Gere is playing the press.
We both reached for the gun.

Of course, all the women on murder’s row had an excuse: ‘I was cutting the chicken and he came at me screaming ‘you effing the milkman? you effing the milkman?’ and then he ran into my knife 10 times.’

BTW, the only woman to hang was the one who was really innocent.

Stay away from jazz and liquor, and women who like to play for fun.

She is pretty. Amazing, how much crazy can be hidden by pretty.