Kavanaugh Judiciary Committee interview: “this is crazy town”
“It’s bad — it’s doing damage to the Supreme Court. It’s doing damage to the country.”
Embedded below is an interview (pdf.), under oath, with Brett Kavanaugh conducted by the Senate Judiciary Committee majority (Republican) staff, regarding the allegations by Yale classmate Deborah Ramirez, and the new allegations by Michael Avenatti’s client Julie Swetnick.
The denials are categorical and unequivocal, as they were as to the Christine Blasey Ford accusations. (Prior interview pdf.) Kavanaugh left no gray zone.
The staff even asked Kavanaugh the questions Avenatti demanded be asked of Kavanaugh:
15 Mr. Avenatti’s questions. The first one,
16 did you ever target one or more women for sex or rape at a
17 house party?
18 Judge Kavanaugh. No.
19 Did you ever assist Mark Judge or others in
20 doing so?
21 Judge Kavanaugh. No.
22 Did you ever attend any house party during
23 which a woman was gang raped or used for sex by multiple
25 Judge Kavanaugh. No.
1 Did you ever witness a line of men outside a
2 bedroom at any house party where you understood a woman was
3 in the bedroom being raped or taken advantage of?
4 Judge Kavanaugh. No.
5 Did you ever participate in any sexual
6 conduct with a woman at a house party with whom you
7 understood to be intoxicated or under the influence of
9 Judge Kavanaugh. No.
10 Did you ever communicate with Mark Judge or
11 anyone else about your participation in a “train” involving
12 an intoxicated woman?
13 Judge Kavanaugh. No.
14 Did you ever object or attempt to prevent
15 one or more men from participating in the rape or taking
16 advantage of a woman at any house party?
17 Judge Kavanaugh. I never saw such a thing. So the
18 premise, the question is off.
He also explained some of the yearbook entries that Avenatti claimed were code for sexual assault:
“FFFFFFFourth of July”
11 Okay. Mr. Avenatti says he has reason — he
12 has reason to believe that the “FFFFFFFourth of July entry”
13 stands for “find them, French them, feel them, finger them,
14 fuck them, and forget them.”
15 Have you ever used such a reference?
16 Judge Kavanaugh. That’s wrong. It refers to this one
17 guy and his — and a joke that everyone had about him and
18 how he said “fuck you.”
19 Have you ever heard of such a reference as
20 Mr. Avenatti described it being used?
21 Judge Kavanaugh. I have never heard that as a
22 reference, and I know for a fact that that was not the
23 reference with respect to the yearbook.
* * *
19 Mr. Avenatti says he has reason to believe that the
20 “FFFFFFFourth of July entry” stands for “find them, French
21 them, feel them, finger them, fuck them, and forget them.”
22 And here’s the question. Have you ever used such a
24 Judge Kavanaugh. No, never. Nor has anyone else, to
25 my understanding. And I know for a fact that that is not
1 the reference in the yearbook or the reference related to
2 the person in question talking about his use of it and how
3 that became a joke among some of the classmates.
3 On the yearbook entry, yes, there is a reference to
4 devil’s triangle.
5 What does the devil’s triangle entry refer
7 Judge Kavanaugh. It refers to a drinking game where
8 there were three glasses in a triangle. Beer drinking.
9 Mr. Avenatti says he has — he has reason to
10 believe the devil’s triangle entry refers to a situation
11 where two men engage in sex with one woman at the same
13 Have you ever used the term “devil’s triangle” to
14 refer to sexual behavior?
15 Judge Kavanaugh. No.
16 Have you ever heard “devil’s triangle” being
17 used to refer to sexual behavior?
18 Judge Kavanaugh. No.
19 Why did you include the devil’s triangle
20 entry in your yearbook?
21 Judge Kavanaugh. I don’t know. We were 17.
The questioning also include questions about as an anonymous Colorado complaint mailed to Senator Cory Gardner, and a Rhode Island complaint called in to Senator Sheldon Whitehouse’s office by someone who called for a military coup against Trump. Kavanaugh denied both. The Rhode Island complaint has now been recanted.
Reading through the topics of the questions, it’s hard to believe this is reality. But it’s what Democrats wanted. They wanted and sought out accusers. These complaints are promoted in the media as “Accusation No. 4” and so on.
Kavanaugh summed it up well: This is crazy town.
15 Judge Kavanaugh. I think this is — this is crazy
16 town. It’s a smear campaign. I’ve been in the public eye
17 for 24 years, really public at various points. Certainly
18 1998, when I was in the Starr investigation, that was a
19 very public year. In the Bush White House, very public,
20 especially in 2003 to 2006. Two notable confirmation
21 hearings in ’04 and ’06. As a judge for 12 years. Named,
22 whether correctly or not, a few times as a possible Supreme
23 Court nominee, very public around those times.
24 You know, go through this whole process, and the FBI
25 background, six FBI backgrounds, intense scrutiny, and then
1 for something like this and the Avenatti thing are just
2 absurd and outrageous, coordinated perhaps. I don’t know.
3 Twilight zone. And I don’t — you know, it’s just
4 outrageous. It’s trying to take me down, trying to take
5 down my family.
6 It’s bad — it’s doing damage to the Supreme Court.
7 It’s doing damage to the country. It’s doing damage to
8 this process. It’s become a total feeding frenzy, you
9 know? Every — just unbelievable.
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Asking Supreme Court nominees repeatedly about X-rated behavior. I’m sure this is exactly what the Founders had in mind.
Since the left goes deeper and deeper into filth, there comes a point where you cannot go any lower. I don’t know if we’ve reached that point, but what happens when we do?
I allowed myself to forget he’d worked for Kenneth Starr. The other side obviously sees this as justice and revenge served cold.
Honestly, I expected pretty much this whole thing. I just try to act outraged so that no one accuses me of being an android. It’s not because I’m surprised.
Who believes who is totally partisan…and that’s the shit show that the Dems have been cultivating for more than a decade now.
That said, this isn’t a simple case of one testimony versus another because the 11th hour claims are either indemonstrable or ridiculous beyond belief.
No one words to describe what damage the left (dems and media) are doing to this country, traditions and honor, and to this nominee
They’ve laid the groundwork so well by corrupting our education system so thoroughly. And unopposed. But then, look at the boehners, mccains, bushes, mcconnella, ryans, grahams, etc that we chose as bulwarks against this kind of tyranny.
We have reaped what we have sown by tolerating the GOPe.
But then, we elected The Donald. There is hope – if we support Trump with continuing passion, and continue dumping POS like flake and corker.
We’re at the point where, whatever the outcome of Kavanaugh’s nomination, he would well be within his rights to sue his accusers for slander and intentional infliction of emotional distress. The accusations represent blatant, repulsive abuse, calculated to cause harm to a man’s reputation and to destroy his professional livelihood. And, they’re manifestly false.
Another thought, something I’ve been pondering — I’ve long stated that abjectly unhappy people are some of the most dangerous people in society. Partisan political motivations aside (e.g., Roe v. Wade reverberations, which loom large, here), I think that’s it’s very likely that most, if not all of, the accusers are deeply unhappy women in their personal/family lives, and, perhaps, their professional lives, as well, and are totally resentful of Kavanaugh’s professional, personal and familial success and fulfillment. I mean, my impression of Kavanaugh is that this is a guy who seems very content, and who is spiritually, professionally and personally-fulfilled. He may not be super-wealthy, but, he’s fundamentally happy. And, a lot of people — especially, spite-filled Leftists and Dumb-o-crats — are not. So, I don’t think it’s beyond the realm of possibility that much of what we’re seeing are the embittered revenge fantasies of some true sociopaths.
It’s a good time to re-read Michael Crichton’s “Disclosure.” A very entertaining and prescient novel.
No one is even going to go after Avenatti’s law license for making lurid allegations of gang rape against a sitting circuit court judge.
Standards are dead. They’ve been dying for a long time now.
There are no grounds for any law suit based on what you assert.
Kavanaugh will never sue anyone over any of this.
How about this? In future nomination proceedings, a witness is not deemed credible unless they have corroborating evidence. This she said/he said bullshit is nothing more than gossip.
It’s the definition of insanity. Some person comes out of the woodwork, to sling an allegation at a middle-aged man, alleging 40-year-old acts of misconduct, committed as a teenager. The allegations lack any scintilla of contemporaneous corroboration, specificity, credibility and evidentiary supports, and, the accused is a man who has, by numerous accounts, led exemplary personal and professional lives.
Such thinly-supported accusations would be unavailing in both civil and criminal courts, so, why the hell should the U.S. Senate entertain them? Especially when the timing and motives behind the allegations are inherently suspect?
This Stalinist show-trial, Salem Witch-Hunt BS needs to be nipped in the bud, ASAP. And, the Dumb-o-crats should pay a severe price for going down this road.
But we’re talking wiminz feelings.
I could give a rat’s @ss about women’s feelings. Feelings aren’t facts, they aren’t evidence and they’re completely irrelevant to everyone except the person experiencing them.
Lie, cheat, steal, kill to achieve the ends: thats the communist way.
Solution: dont tolerate communists/fascists.
That’s something I can get behind. At the very least require it for any charge of serious misconduct levied against the candidate in order for it to be allowed to be brought up. This slimy mud throwing to see what sticks and personal destruction of the candidate seriously needs to be reined in!
Sanddog – that would be following the Bible – we obviously can’t allow such a thing in this country, you know there’s that US Constitution thing, established “In the year of our Lord . . .”
All this is fall out from Roe V Wade.
The “right” to murder unborn children is the left’s obsession.
Don’t forget Gun control. How many states are going to be sweating the first case to go before a 5-4 Scotus?
I live in an area near Chicago that is pretty far left. Like DSA membership is pretty normal… All I can say is this whole Kavanaugh smear campaign is playing hard to the far left base who are eating it up. My hope here is that it doesn’t play as well in less tribal areas of the country and costs votes during the election.
Ironic that I watched a Twightlight Zone episode just a couple of weeks ago on a lazy Sunday. The neighborhood got all jazzed up thinking a poor innocent man did this or that and the entire neighborhood become zoombie like. Just like the MSM does here. That poor man was innocent. Kavanaugh is innocent here too.
Roe v Wade is the practice of worship to many of the left. There are some women who have talked about having abortions as if they are something to celebrate and honor.
Planned Parenthood ran an ad targeting Kavanaugh prior to the 2012 election because Romney suggested him as a possible SCOTUS pick. It pinned Kavanaugh as overturning Roe v Wade.
To many leftists abortion is an almost religious level right, any threat perceived by them to abortions, regardless of reality, will not be tolerated.
The left is also hung up on sex. They view sex as power, and use it as a weapon. In this case they are using what look to be fabrications about sex to do what they were unable to do through persuading others, and that is to destroy Kavanaugh, and keep him from being made a justice.
It worked with Moore. They piled on with accusations that were full of holes, it didn’t matter, and it stopped Moore’s chances in his election. The left want a repeat, and are using the same play book. They had nothing to hang him on from his older life, and that would have been too difficult to manufacture, so they went with HS, knowing that many people recall the stupid things done during those years. The same with College. Yet, if they are to be believed, a serial rapist changed his behavior after having been a Bill Clinton type through his formative years.
Kavanaugh is right, it is destroying the Supreme Court, and the Country, and it all lays at the feet of the Democrats. I don’t know how we can recover from this, but a good start would be a Red Wave. The Democrats have shown they are not deserving of power, and worse, that they are willing to abuse this country and our institutions to gain power.
Has anyone noticed that within the last half hour the mysterious missing man, the guy who lived at the house, has been interviewed twice by the committee, and says he is the one who had the encounter with Ford ans described in her allegation.
He’s been interviewed at least twice this week. I think the republicans might be planning some bombshells of their own.
Not interviewed in the last half hour. The committee just released a list of people who have been interviewed.
Grassleey screwd up.
He should have told Feinstein that that phase of the hearings had passed.
And now, it is the time to confirm.
And we would have been done with it.
But what if they waited until Ford published here statement before bring out the guy, someone who is not Kavanaugh?
Anyone who has been paying attention knows that there had to be another person, someone who lived at the house.
Elementary Perry mason. Exoneration by confession.
You can’t fairly blame Chuck — he was totally at the mercy of Collins and Flake, both of whom made clear that they wouldn’t vote on Kavanaugh until the accuser had been heard from. They didn’t care about Feinstein’s concealment of the allegation from the Committee, which concealment quite obviously reflected Feinstein’s own doubts regarding the credibility of the accuser and the veracity of the accusation. Murkowski and Corker were of the same mindset. So, Grassley was powerless to push a vote, held hostage to the whims of our four worthless, easily-duped and conned Senator-Stooges.
At this point I legitimately think the Democrat strategy is to try to fuck Kavanaugh over so hard that they could demand he recuse himself from any decision involving ANY Democrat because he couldn’t be impartial towards them.
The Dumb-o-crats want to destroy Kavanaugh, to make an example out of him. Not just to preserve abortion, although, that’s part of the motivation. I think the Dumbs are sending a signal to all conservatives in the U.S., prominent and not prominent, private sector and government, that, if you want to participate in civic life and make your voice heard in the public square, you are going to be made to pay a very, very steep price, with respect to your professional livelihood, your reputation and perhaps your personal safety and the safety of your family.
That’s the larger message, in my opinion. Kavanaugh is just the guy in the batter’s box. But, it could have happened to Gorsuch, or, to Amy Barrett; only the timing prevented them from being subjected to the same slander, spite, venom and vindictive abuse.
And do what when he says FOAD.
What are we to do? I’m not a person to go out and protest in the streets. What are WE to do?
Don’t despair! Make your voice heard. Contact your Congressional Representative and Senators. Let them know that you’re appalled and furious at these Stalinist show trial tactics. And, vote in November, and, get any like-minded family members and friends to vote, as well.
That isn’t going to get the job done. I don’t know what will, but pretending that this is just “part of the process” won’t. These people need to pay a steep price for this infamy.
I believe in a steep price imposed, too — I’m open to suggestions as to how to proceed.
“What are we to do”
Not sure, but your question is the first step in the right direction.
Inbounds: burning Kavanaugh at the stake was done in service to their god, abortion. We could support and redouble all pro-life efforts to tear that altar down.
Out of Bounds: Flake has betrayed us for a cushy job at MSNBC or CNN, sabotage that. Harris seeks the Dem nomination for 2020, destroy that with false accusations. Etc. Basically, we learn to play as dirty as them, not tit for tat, but toward an endgame that completely destroys the Left in this country. Turn the cold war hot, why do we have to wait for them to attack first?
the other BIG motivation –
Who wants to be put through the ringer to replace one of the prog justice’s?
I’m so angry and fed up, I would crawl over broken glass and hot coals while under sniper fire during a hurricane to get to the polls to vote at this point.
This is the hill to die on. If the GOP don’t realize this is a fight to the death and they retreat … then the GOP is dead to me.
Either Grassley mans the fuck up and ends this clown show or he can get thrown out with the rest of the RINOs.
So many supposed fence-sitters and independents keep talking about how ‘credible’ Ford is. But surely Kavanaugh should be granted the benefit of the greater credibility at this stage. We don’t know much about Dr. Ford, the internet has been carefully scrubbed of any of her posts, we don’t know what her teaching position is, or her politics, we know nothing about her psychiatric history, her character—nothing. All we know is that she states she has been traumatized by something awful that happened to her 36 years ago, when she was 15, and that she now claims the young Brett Kavanaugh was responsible for it. By contrast, Judge Kavanaugh has been in the public limelight for the past 20 or more years, has been vetted by the FBI five or six times, has numerous people who vouch for his character, and that, up to this point, he had no stains upon it. Yet the burden of proof has somehow been thrust upon HIM? Leave aside the fact that it is impossible to prove a negative, which is why this vague and unconfirmed accusation could never stand up in a court of law. Simply on the crude basis of a preponderance of credible presumptions, his accuser(s) should have to overcome a presumption that they are (a) politically motivated, (b) suggestible and/or delusional, or even (c) seeking publicity for personal motives (Imagine the book contracts!). This burden has been shifted solely out of the assumption that ‘all males behave like that.’
Key excerpt from the phone interview with Judge K; his words, making what I think is an obvious, yet, heretofore under-emphasized point of defense that supports the notion that these allegations are manifestly contrived:
I think we’re — this is an outrage for this kind of thin,
2 uncorroborated, 35-year-old accusation to be leveled in
3 this fashion at this time. I’ve been in the public eye for
4 24 years, since I started with the independent counsel in
5 the fall of 1994, very public at various points in my life.
6 I’ve been through six background checks. I worked in
7 the White House at the highest levels, senior staff,
8 traveling with the President all over the world, seeing the
9 most highly sensitive secrets of our Nation for years. I
10 went through a difficult confirmation process for the D.C.
11 Circuit that was public with two separate confirmation
12 hearings in 2004 and 2006.
13 I’ve been a judge for 12 years in a very public way.
14 I’ve been identified repeatedly as a potential Supreme
15 Court nominee. Whether that was accurate or not, I’ve been
16 publicly identified. My decisions have been publicly
18 I’ve been very much a presence at the Yale College
19 reunions. I’ve been on multiple panels there. So I’ve
20 been active in the class. The class newsletter has talked
21 about me. The people in my class have been at those
22 reunions and those events.
23 In all that time, not a word. And then 4 days, you
24 know, when just right before a vote for the Supreme Court,
25 after the nomination itself has been pending for months,
1 and I’ve been through the hearings and 65 Senate meetings
2 and all the written questions, and then — and then, after
3 all these years, with all this time, and all these
4 descriptions with no corroboration and with her best friend
5 saying she never heard about it, you know, I’m — I’m
6 really just, you know, stunned. And outraged.
7 It’s the twilight zone. I guess we’re going to get to
8 a few more of these twilight zone things, but —
I’m off to Democrat Underground to research the enemy. If I don’t make it back, please don’t risk a rescue squad.
I bequeath my coffee mug to Subtoai and my shares of Free Popcorn Schadenfreude to Fuzzy. Let Jörmungandr run free. Play Shoot to Thrill at my wake. Fenrisulven 6, out.
If true this is a game changer.
“A claim of sexual assault involving Judge Brett Kavanaugh, President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, tied to Rhode Island, has already been recanted.”
A claim of sexual assault involving Judge Brett Kavanaugh, President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee, tied to Rhode Island, has already been recanted.
On Wednesday evening, a spokesperson for Sen. Sheldon Whitehouse confirmed he received a phone call about the allegation. He said the allegation was forwarded to the FBI for further investigation, and declined to comment further.
The man who called Whitehouse claimed his female friend was the victim of a sexual assault involving Kavanaugh and another man on a boat in Newport Harbor in 1985.
Kavanaugh was questioned by Senate staff about the accusation, and Kavanaugh denied the allegation.
Later Wednesday night, the man who made the claim reportedly recanted his story and apologized, saying he made a mistake.
Twilight Zone indeed.
Looks like the time has finally arrived for Ron Coleman to make his long-awaited dramatic appearance. There’s gotta be a reason why this is the only blog that prominently features a picture of their attorney. Even the humble Branco eventually broke out and went big.
Earlier this year, or perhaps last, some commenters posted that the Leftists were no longer our countrymen. I thought at the time that this was “over the top”, deeply disturbing and damaging to the country and Constitution.
I now admit that I was mistaken. I could not have imagined how far the Left was willing to go to destroy Judge Kavanaugh, and his family, to prevent his joining the SCOTUS. I doubt any person with a modicum of sanity and morality could so imagine.
The Leftist are not our countrymen. They will not leave and let us have some peace, nor will they shut up and let us have some peace. It truly is war, so far only a cold one. I hope I, my wife, our children,grandchildren and great-grandchildren never see it become a “hot” war. I wouldn’t put it past the Left to try that at some greater level than the Watts “urban renewal”.
This is not the country into which I was born over 70 years ago.
They are globalists. As in “Workers of the world unite!” or “Raise high the banner of proletariat internationalism!”
Open borders, flag burnings, kneeling during the national anthem, citizens of the world, repealing the Constitution one article at a time, guilty until proven innocent, booing when anyone talks about love of country, rejecting elections when they don’t go their way, reacting with violence at anyone who doesn’t agree with them,…..
It’s not like they are even pretending to be anything else.