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Kavanaugh Accuser’s couples therapy records, partially leaked to WaPo, may hold the key

Kavanaugh Accuser’s couples therapy records, partially leaked to WaPo, may hold the key

Odd that the memory of the alleged assault was recovered during couples therapy, and the therapist records were selectively leaked by the accuser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc_3qe9u2dA

When The Washington Post broke the story that Christine Blasey Ford was the person who accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of assault dating back to high school, there were several aspects of the WaPo story that struck me as particularly strange.

First, there was a suggestion that this is a repressed and recovered memory case:

“Years later, after going through psychotherapy, Ford said, she came to understand the incident as a trauma with lasting impact on her life.”

If this is a case of repressed memory, then it changes everything. It’s a convenient explanation for why Ford said nothing to anyone for 30 years despite herself being a clinical psychologist. Repressed and recovered memory, however, is of questionable veracity and admissibility in court.

Second, that repressed memory allegedly was recovered in 2012 during couples’ therapy,

Ford said she told no one of the incident in any detail until 2012, when she was in couples therapy with her husband.

Why in couples therapy, not in individual therapy? That seems like an odd time to recover memory, particularly for a clinical psychologist who likely underwent or practiced various forms of psychological therapy during her long career.  This suggests that perhaps there was some marital problem which implicated an earlier trauma, if this story is true, or invented an earlier trauma as an excuse, if the story is not true.

Third, Ford volunteered the therapist’s notes to WaPo, but only selective portions chosen by Ford:

The therapist’s notes, portions of which were provided by Ford and reviewed by The Washington Post, do not mention Kavanaugh’s name but say she reported that she was attacked by students “from an elitist boys’ school” who went on to become “highly respected and high-ranking members of society in Washington.” The notes say four boys were involved, a discrepancy Ford says was an error on the therapist’s part. Ford said there were four boys at the party but only two in the room.

It seems odd for an alleged sexual assault victim to volunteer psychiatric records, particularly since the odious “nuts and sluts” defense so frequently is used against accusers. And why were only selective portions shared? This seems particularly calculating and defensively preemptive.

My gut tells me the therapy records hold a key to what did or did not happen here. Having voluntarily shared a part of those records with a newspaper, it’s hard for Ford to argue confidentiality.

It becomes even more important in light of Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s statement today that Ford “is a woman that has been, I think, profoundly impacted, on this..I can’t say that everything is truthful. I don’t know.”

Kavanaugh already has agreed to testify under oath at the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Monday, September 24, 2018. As of this writing, it’s not clear if Ford will appear (though I assume she will).

Without the full couples therapy records Ford already partially shared with the Washington Post, I’m not sure we’ll ever really know how and why this allegedly repressed memory was recovered, or whether it actually is a memory.

[Update 9:30 p.m. – Ford’s lawyer says she will not testify until after an FBI investigation.]

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Nothing more than a smear; all “too” convenient, repressed memory,selective notes released, not wanting to go public but hired an attorney and took a polygraph, supposedly. A teenage girl not telling any girlfriends that she was in a party with four boys and one made moves on her? Just all to convenient

Many odd things about her claims. She only remembers Kavanaugh and Judge but no one else. What about her friends? If this really happened and was so traumatic that she feared for her life, why didn’t she tell even her best friend? She just pats herself on the back for getting out of the situation and leaving.

And why does she not remember the location of the party? Or any details of the rooms, yard, road, lighting,…. nothing.

This is probably why she won’t appear before the committee. Her story contains only two claims: Kavanaugh tried to rape her and she feared for her life. Everything else will be “I don’t recall”.

By approving to give her a hearing, Trump called her bluff. The obstructors gave Trump a big opportunity to come off looking very mature and reasonable. Maybe caught be surprise, they are now demanding the FBI launch an investigation or she won’t testify. She will never testify. Game, set and match Trump.

Go ahead Flake. Cast that “no” vote. I’ll bet some Dem with weak polls for the November election steps up and cancels you vote.

    Manchin is going to vote to confirm him. Polls already had a huge majority of WV wanting him confirmed and this obvious political hack job is going to kick it to 11.

      I’ll bet Feinsteing does too. She can’t possibly be so senile that she doesn’t realize how foolish and desperate she and her co-conspirators look right now. What an irony if this were to cost her the election. Not likely but… No one ever expected that Republican John Cox would be as close as he is to actually winning the governorship over Gavin Newsome. It could happen. Trump held some very successful rallies before big crowds in CA. Trump could deliver a big turnout for people who are fed up with the one-party system.

        I don’t think that Cox will win, given that Cali is so overwhelmingly and reflexively Dumb-o-crat, but, whatever the outcome, the fact that he has made it a competitive race against a long-time Dumb-o-crat heir-apparent is nothing short of amazing. Cox deserves major credit for making a fight out of this race.

          Cox is within 5 points in the polls and we know which way polls are biased. Hillary was a 95% odds-on favorite. Cox can win. Trump could conceivably put him over the top by campaigning here. He held Y-U-U-U-U-G-E rallies here in 2016. Don’t be such a defeatist.

          Alan McIntire in reply to guyjones. | September 19, 2018 at 8:08 am

          There’s a misunderstanding here. Feinstein is running to keep her seat in the Senate, Cox is running for Governor, a different office. Cox and Feinstein aren’t facing each other.

          zennyfan in reply to guyjones. | September 19, 2018 at 8:15 am

          That’s what the comment says, even naming the race and giving Gavin Newsome’s name.

        You have to think about the people who vote for her.

        She will remain a no vote until California goes Republican.

          Feinstein–probably in collusion with Schumer–is the evil genius behind this fraud. So California Republicans should while voting for Cox for governor cast their ballots against her in the Senate race. Her Hispanic opponent is even more openly radical left than her, but the difference is minimal. And his victory will have three positive results: 1) will more fully expose the damage to American values by illegal immigration; 2)further underline the Democrats as covert socialists; and 3) rid us of one of the more slimy figures in politics.

      RodFC in reply to Olinser. | September 18, 2018 at 8:48 pm

      As I already said red state Senators are shitting themselves silly. They aren’t getting cover, the people they want to voter for them — Trump voters, believe that it’s a Democratic trick. To vote against him means they are part of it.

      All this means the voters in their states are more motivated to vote.

    mathewsjw in reply to Pasadena Phil. | September 19, 2018 at 3:49 am

    RINO Senator Flake said if No Testimony by Blasey Ford then vote can proceed asap.

    Kavanaugh’s Accuser Says She Won’t Testify Until The FBI, Which Has Already Declined to Investigate Her Non-Federal-Jurisdiction 37-Year-Old Allegations, Completes Its Investigation, Sometime After a Democrat is President
    – Ace of Spades

      DanJ1 in reply to JohnC. | September 19, 2018 at 10:31 am

      She’s claiming she needs protection because of death threats, according to NPR this morning. I think she doesn’t want to speak under oath and these are just excuses. There’s nothing the FBI can do other than make a couple phone calls.

    Short of a meltdown for Kavanaugh, Flake will vote yes (especially if Ford skips the hearing). He has cover now. The GOPe are big Kavanaugh fans so they are not going to risk the Kennedy seat going into limbo for two years and dependent on Trump’s re-election.

    Last I read, Flake said that if she doesn’t show up, he’ll vote for Kavanaugh.

And now Feinstein is refusing to vouch for the “truthfulness” of Ford’s accusations. At this point, Kavanaugh might win in a landslide with shamed Democrats trying to salvage even a whisker of self-respect.

    DINORightMarie in reply to Pasadena Phil. | September 18, 2018 at 7:52 pm

    Wishful thinking.

    If only……..

    Those hacks, those soulless fellow travelers, those swamp creatures have no conscience, no scruples. They will dutifully vote NAY without a second thought.

      I don’t think so. Schumer is asking Dems to “take one for the team’ by surrendering in their election bids. This is a sinking ship and even rats bail at some point.

      Something to consider now that Trump has pretty much taken over the GOP. Where are the “never trumpers” going to go? The Dem establishment has lost control of the Democratic party to the communists and they don’t care about the November elections other than a few seats winnable by more communists. The Uniparty has no party to consolidate. Why would the NeverTrump switch to a party where their Democratic party partners are being kicked out?

      I have argued for years that in order to defeat the Democrats, we would first have to defeat the GOP establishment. I never expected that the Dems would self-destruct without our help. Tells you how much damage Trump is doing to their big plans.

        Yup. But it really infuriates me when I think of all the times I heeded GOPe advice about “not this hill”. Now it’s evident that all we had to do was take a stand and we would have reversed several defeats.

        I think that’s what angers the NeverTrumpers most – Trump has shown us what Paper Tigers they are, and we are never going back, never going to heed them again.

          Interesting how we always had to hold our noses to vote for their Democrat when the RINOs ran the GOP. Now they can’t support the first Republican to win running on the traditional GOP platform and rather than hold their noses to vote for the first Republican to actually follow through on campaign promises, they are telling us to vote for the other Democratic party’s Democrat. How busted are they?

          Until Trump, there really was no Republican opposition. It really was kabuki theater by a corrupt Uniparty.

    Eff difi and her chinese spy driver.
    Probably another cheap tactic to try to delay the vote hoping everyone is as insane as democrats and vote to give them the senate.
    If this is how they act when they lose God help us if they ever get all three branches again.
    Positive note I saw a poll where Bob “beto” is almost 9 points behind Cruz today.

    “shamed Democrats” – Oxymoron

    btw – love the Colorado St Bridge

    I think it will still be upon party lines. They have been telling their base that this guy is the apocalypse. They can’t back down,

      MajorWood in reply to Valerie. | September 19, 2018 at 12:14 am

      Uh, everything is the apocalypse. Their voting base will forget by next week. I’m still waiting for all the Wild West shootouts that we were going to see with concealed carry. We do have shootouts, but they are in the ghetto and by non-permitees. Concealed carry just keeps them where they belong.

I haven’t read the therapist notes beyond what’s been quoted here, but I don’t read the quotes the same way. “came to understand the incident as a trauma […]” and “told no one of the incident in any detail until 2012” do not seem to be the same as “did not remember the incident” but rather to be “came to a different understanding of the incident and its role in her life.” Which seems a semi-reasonable thing to have happen in therapy… I don’t believe this whole story at all (or certainly not that the suspect was Kavanaugh) – but I don’t think she’s claiming a repressed memory, either…

    Ever consider that the therapist’s notes were created in July?

      ButGodsFirst in reply to pfg. | September 18, 2018 at 9:20 pm

      That would require the therapist being in on the game, and aught to be testable, and so it’s unlikely she’s lying about that. Much more likely she had this lined up in time for the Romney election and then didn’t need it. Even if you’re right, let’s be clear on what she’s claiming, so we can refute the right thing. I’m pretty sure she’s not claiming a recovered memory, so claiming that that’s silly or implausible or etc. is useless.

        MarkSmith in reply to ButGodsFirst. | September 18, 2018 at 9:35 pm

        Well considering that the majority of Doctors and therapists in the field of psychology are flaming resist liberals, I think the therapist is in the game.

        All roads lead to Baker-Hostler and Mrs. Ford’s brother, which lead to standard smear campaign of Fusion GPS.

        Clinton/Soros hands are all over this.

        You are assuming there IS a therapist to start with.

If anyone can fake psychological records, it is a prof in CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGY!

Question: what therapist would give over his/her notes to the client?! I don’t know of any practicing professional who would do that. They are available for the client/patient to be able to see (open records) – I believe that is the law in all states; however, it is NOT something that a psychologist/therapist would readily give over to the client/patient.

Stinks to high heaven. Reeks of fakery, lies, and partisan hackery all to derail the career and prevent the seating of a more than qualified, more than honorable nominee to the SCOTUS.

My personal view is this……does anyone EVER do a follow-up on these so-called “victims” that oh so conveniently crawl out from under rocks whenever a Republican is being vetted for high office/position of power?! Does anyone ever check their bank accounts, perhaps their big purchases or wonderful trips they take?! Follow.The.Money.

I bet this woman will be well paid off for doing her duty for her fellow leftist travelers…….

All I can say is that I fell like I’m on brain over-load. So, I’m praying that in the near future there will be two young just beaming with pride as their father is sworn in as an Associate Supreme Court Justice of the United State of America!

Professor, I think you’re reading something into it that isn’t there.

From WAPO:
Years later, after going through psychotherapy, Ford said, she came to understand the incident as a trauma with lasting impact on her life.

This doesn’t suggest a repressed memory at all. It the therapy helped her to understand how the event affected her life. It is silent on the issue of when the memory was recovered or even it if was lost in the first place.

WAPO:
Ford said she told no one of the incident in any detail until 2012, when she was in couples therapy with her husband.

This indicates that, because of the state her relationship with her husband, they went to couples therapy. The therapy didn’t bring out a repressed memory, but caused her to speak of it as the therapist probably inquired as to any trauma or cause that may be at the root of what was troubling her and her relationship with her husband. This caused her to speak in “detail” about the incident for the first time. This does not suggest that this is when she first recalled it.

Sorry, but I think you’re barking up the wrong tree.

    Ford said, “She came to understand the incident as a trauma with lasting impact on her life.”

    To which the therapist responded, “Cut the shiitte, and stop feeling sorry for yourself. Do that and you’re cured.”

      notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital in reply to pfg. | September 18, 2018 at 9:29 pm

      Sounds more like “Programming” for any future GOP Supreme Court appointment.

      You don’t think that could happen and isn’t planned for by the Deep State? Then read up on Amazon’s “in bed” history with the CIA. (It’s been believed for years that the Washington Post was a CIA tool for disseminating CIA stories, propaganda, etc.)

      Good Grief, Amazon has literally been in bed with the CIA, allowing them to see all your Amazon activity, selling, buying wish lists, etc.

      I’m about to conclude that Amazon is NOT A REAL BUSINESS and that Jeff Bozo has always been a DEEP STATE Spook/Asset Sleeper Cell for Decades.

      Stranger Things have Happened.

      MajorWood in reply to pfg. | September 19, 2018 at 12:35 am

      It seems that google has scrubber her as well. I typed in her name and research publications and got no results, whereas my name and research publications went all the way back to 1980. So either it was erased or all of her submissions were to J. Duh.

      From my perspective, the upside/downside here doesn’t add up, plus, she sure is condemning psychology as a profession if she believes that Kavanaugh (and by extension … Everyone) is incapable of change after 30 years. That speaks volumes about her. What is it about liberals that makes them clinically unable to see unintended consequences? You’d think that by now that maybe a few of them would have realized that they ended up with Trump solely because they stole the nomination from bernie, and that in the future it might be wise to take in the big picture before acting.

    alaskabob in reply to DaveGinOly. | September 18, 2018 at 10:32 pm

    I developed episodes of muffled hearing and tinnitus (not Meniere’s) that the House Clinic could detect as minimal residual brainstem evoked response changes. Tinnitus BAD so my wife suggested biofeedback and we went to a psychologist to learn what to do. All he wanted to do was prove I had repressed emotions from when my Mother died when I was 14 as the bases for the hearing issues. Interesting to find out if the therapist has a history of sexual assault and sees everything through that filter.

    Arminius in reply to DaveGinOly. | September 18, 2018 at 11:50 pm

    I don’t think you understand the Professor’s point at all. He isn’t saying it’s a case of repressed/recovered memory. It might be, it might not be. Regardless, selectively releasing a portion of the therapists note is a calculated act. And Ford has already demonstrated she’s a calculating woman; that’s why she took a polygraph and lawyered up in August after passing information to Feinstein. Those aren’t the actions of someone who really, really wants to remain anonymous. She clearly intended to go public in some manner all along.

    Since she forfeited any claim to privacy by selectively releasing the notes, then the Senate Judicial Committee has the right to see the rest of them. Repressed/recovered memory or not she doesn’t have the right to use part of them to attempt to establish Kavanaugh’s guilt.

    Which is why, despite saying through her attorneys that she is willing to testify before the committee but only after a thorough FBI investigation. It’s a ridiculous demand, which indicates the last thing Ford and her attorneys want is an investigation of any sort but it is an excuse to refuse to testify under oath. Because investigators, whether Congressional or FBI, would have grounds to see all the notes. Despite patient privacy laws if Ford didn’t voluntarily comply with the request investigators can get warrants for medical records. And the selective nature of the release indicates she has something to hide that could blow up her allegation as completely or almost entirely false.

      Albigensian in reply to Arminius. | September 19, 2018 at 11:27 am

      Well, I doubt the Committee has any right to see her notes.

      BUT it does have the right to say they won’t consider “portions” of the notes as constituting any sort of evidence, and that if she wants the notes to be duly considered then she needs to release all of them, at least to someone appointed by the committee who could then select all parts that might be relevant, while keeping the rest confidential.

Whether this was a “recovered” memory or not, there’s another problem for Ford’s credibility, and that is the fact that Ford claims to have PTSD from the alleged assault, and PTSD is well known to cause memory distortions.

So far, Ford has offered zero evidence that her memory of the alleged assault is accurate, and the other two people she says were there — Kavanaugh and Mark Judge — both flatly deny that it ever happened.

Given that Ford claims that no one else witnessed the alleged assault, and that she told no one about it until decades later, and that she says she adjusted her clothing and made sure she looked normal immediately after the assault, there is no way anybody could corroborate her claim that the assault actually happened as she described.

    It makes absolutely no sense to me that she told no one at all, especially right after it happened. Didn’t she have a best friend? She boasts of having escaped from Kavanaugh’s clutches! No one noticed her leaving in a huff? She just sneaked out? She is making it all up. I would like to know if anyone from those days remember her and what they remember about her. If she had a circle of friends, it makes no sense to me that at least one of them wouldn’t know. She says she feared for her life!

      Ford is the one who says she told no one what happened for decades after the alleged attack. She is also the one who says that, right after the alleged attack, she ran into the bathroom next to the bedroom and checked her clothes and tried to calm herself to make sure she didn’t look like she’d just been attacked. She is also the one who says there were only four other people at the party, all guys. She is also the one who says that she left the party house right after calming herself and adjusting her clothes in the bathroom, and went home.

      If she says now that there were people she told after all, or that there was another girl at the party, or that somebody saw her in an upset and disheveled state at the party, then she’s contradicting the story she told the WaPo, and that means she’s either lying or her memory of the event is so unreliable that nothing she says can be viewed as credible.

        So she’s saying she went to an all-boys drinking party alone? Another strange “fact”. There is no way she shows up Monday. The Dems won’t allow it. They just want to delay and will go with their demand for an FBI investigation, a “special prosecutor” or some other delaying tactic. I expect McConnell to shut it down and schedule a vote.

Recovered memory is the modern version of witchcraft testimony. Most of the recovered memories turn out to be planted memories, they are fictitious events planted by the therapist or prosecutor. Problematic is a far too mild description of them.

What teenager describes a party they go to as “elitist”?

Its a lie.

Ha ha listening to Tucker. CBF is saying she will not testify until after a full FBI investigation.

    RodFC in reply to RodFC. | September 18, 2018 at 8:39 pm

    Sorry I want to fix some things with that post.
    1) CBF is not on Tucker, he just announced a statement she made.
    It really needs bold
    CBF is saying she will not testify until after a full FBI investigation.

      redc1c4 in reply to RodFC. | September 18, 2018 at 8:43 pm

      IOW, she’s not going to testify under oath.

      the FBI only investigates Federal crimes.

        Arminius in reply to redc1c4. | September 19, 2018 at 12:06 am

        Not only does the FBI only investigate federal crimes, which is why they responded to Feinstien’s request by saying that since no one has alleged a federal crime they will not investigate, but they don’t investigate any crimes that are more than thirty years past the statute of limitations. No police agency does.

        Which shows Ford and her attorneys Banks and Katz are completely dishonest when they say they want an investigation. The appropriate agencies to investigate crimes against state laws are state or local agencies. If Ford doesn’t know this her attorneys damn well know it. That would be in Maryland I believe, although she doesn’t even remember whose house they were in we can’t even be sure of that.

        It’s an absurd condition which only serves one purpose. It provides cover for Ford to refuse to testify but continue to publicly sing the #MeToo song without undergoing any scrutiny at all. The Congressional Dems and their party’s candidates will join in the chorus.

      mathewsjw in reply to RodFC. | September 19, 2018 at 4:13 am

      FBI investigated Blasey Ford’s Claim and Responded Tuesday: “It’s totally inappropriate for someone to demand we use law enforcement resources to investigate a 35-year-old allegation when she won’t go under oath and can’t remember key details including when or where it happened.”

        cloudbuster1 in reply to mathewsjw. | September 19, 2018 at 8:41 am

        When you are making up a story, the time and place
        can be a problem. You may pick a time and place,
        that your victim can easily debunk. So you do a
        Hillary, and “I can’t recall”. They don’t expect to
        win, they are creating a stink, in hopes of
        delaying the process.Seen this rodeo already,(Bork,
        Thomas). 50% success, with no downside from their
        base. Expect more of this from the Dims.

In July 1982, I was mugged while out of town on a work assignment.

Was it traumatic for me – yes.

Do I remember all of the details – no, but I remember many of them and I could research my records and find the rest of the facts such as the exact date, the name of the concerned female manager, and the name of the asshole male partner who laughed when he found out that I was attacked.) My father was an attorney & I am an accountant – we do record retention.

Did it impact me – yes, it took about a year before I was comfortable about walking by myself at night, without security escorting me to my car.

Does it impact me now, after all of those years – no since I have trained myself to be more aware of situations.

And, I remember other traumatic events – Murrah Building in 1995, 9/11, Kennedy & Oswald shootings, and so on as well as more personal events in my life that I would have not told anyone else, even though the concept of repeated discussions means that the memories become stronger.

Search your memories and think about why you may remember something more than another event. How many specific traumatic events have you suppressed? Perhaps you can remember them quite clearly? So, I call BS on this clinical psychologist.

i find her allegations to be as believable as the claims made in the McMartin pre-school case here in Lost Angels many moons back.

It does seem fairly odd that 2012 when Mitt was trending in the polls and Kavanaugh was being talked about as a prospective SC nominee is when this young lady suddenly had a recovered memory of a 30 year old event. Then by coincidence when he is nominated for the SC in 2018, here it comes again.

Waiting for the Alien abduction part of this story. But even Barney and Betty Hill (one the original close encounters stories) could give general specific dates, time and general locations of the events before and after hypnosis even though they did not totally match. This sounds more like we have some “I was under therapy at the time and this is just what the therapist suggested could be the reason of my ‘issues’ and I agreed just make it easier for everyone”. And if I get caught perjuring myself I have an out saying it was not my fault the politicians got a hold of my story and blabbed it all over. But in the mean time I am in the center of attention making all sorts of money.

Just too many convenient holes and justifications, all too perfect to Slander K without ever having enough to prove. 2nd, What the heck is the Fat Boys Institute supposed to investigate? She can’t give the location or the year, can’t name any of the other boys, didn’t tell anyone at the time, didn’t tell therapist any names, no rape claimed, no rape kit, no fingerprints and all the primary persons have g8ven bbn public statements. All a delay ploy, hoping the repubs take the bait and bbn put off until after mid terms or weak repubs vote no.

Just too many convenient holes and justifications, all too perfect to Slander K without ever having enough to prove. 2nd, What the heck is the Fat Boys Institute supposed to investigate? She can’t give the location or the year, can’t name any of the other boys, didn’t tell anyone at the time, didn’t tell therapist any names, no rape claimed, no rape kit, no fingerprints and all the primary persons have g8ven bbn public statements. All a delay ploy, hoping the repubs take the bait and bbn put off until after mid terms or weak repubs vote no.

Cue Gloria Allred to enter stage left in 5..4..3..2..

I guess the reason she can’t testify under oath is now see she made these same accusations against Neil Gorsuch last year

Well .. Not that I needed any convincing but this is a hit job and she is just looking to delay confirmation vote

Flake says he’s ready to go forward if she doesn’t show.

I wonder if she can’t ‘remember’ the house because it was her parents’ home and she was a party girl when they were not there. Later on (after the mention of Kavanaugh by Romney) she “remembers” a political opponent. Too many parties too long ago?

Well this is strange. Kavanaugh has hired David Gregory’s Wife, Beth Wilkinson. She represented four of Hillary Clinton’s former state department staffers in the FBI’s investigation of Clinton’s use of private email.

Kavanaugh, Amid Sexual Assault Claim, Reportedly Hires Beth Wilkinson

https://www.law.com/nationallawjournal/2018/09/17/kavanaugh-amid-sexual-assault-claim-reportedly-hires-beth-wilkinson/

CNN Commentator David Gregory’s Wife Is The Attorney For Hillary’s Ex-Aides In Email Investigation

https://dailycaller.com/2016/04/03/cnn-commentator-david-gregorys-wife-is-the-attorney-for-hillarys-ex-aides-in-email-investigation/

    alaskabob in reply to MarkSmith. | September 18, 2018 at 10:34 pm

    Hopefully she is better than Cohen and doesn’t leak details…

    DC is a small concentrated swamp.

    wow. That is strange. It seems an unwise move as the optics are terrible.

    mathewsjw in reply to MarkSmith. | September 19, 2018 at 4:08 am

    Not strange at all.. Kavanaugh just proved Kavanaugh is worthy of the SCotUS. Kavanaugh’s must have made the judgement that this defense lawyer has gotten known guilty persons off with no charges.
    So it will be a trivial exercise to get off an innocent person. Kavanaugh’s a brilliant intelligent man.

Update 9:30 p.m. – Ford’s lawyer says she will not testify until after an FBI investigation.]

The FBI allready declined to investigate – due lack of substance or post statute of limitations, though I am told maryland doesnt have a statute of limitations
Secondly, the FBI doesnt have jurisdiction for a violation of state law.

Third – demanding an FBI investigation is only a delay tactic

    MarkSmith in reply to Joe-dallas. | September 18, 2018 at 10:47 pm

    Update 9:30 p.m. – Ford’s lawyer says she will not testify until after an FBI investigation.]

    Investigate what? The Chinese connections of Feinstein? How about the Baker-Hostler Fusion GPS connection?

    Hey connection to Kerry?

    With 200 women supports for Kavanaugh, it is a lost cause. If I was the Kavanaugh team, I would put all 100 in front of the committee and have each one give it to the Dem. idiots on National TV telling them how much of an idiot they are to true women victims likes the one Bill Clinton, Edwards and Kennedy created. Lets add MN Al and Detroit’s very ownJohn James Conyers.

      Arminius in reply to MarkSmith. | September 19, 2018 at 12:37 am

      I believe the FBI should investigate. Ford and her attorneys Banks and Katz that is. I believe providing false information to a Congressional committee in an attempt to interfere with its legitimate government functions may violate a federal statute or two. They need to raid the attorney’s offices like they did Cohen’s to seize communications records to see if they made this thing up out of whole cloth. Obviously they also need to get Ford’s communications records as well as subpoena Facebook, Twitter, etc. for archived copies of the social media accounts she spent all of September scrubbing. Also, who else may have been involved in the conspiracy (Feinstein or the staffers at her Capitol Hill or local offices where the Chinese spy used to work or maybe just Soros). Clearly they need to seize the firms financial records to find out who was actually paying them.

      I’m so glad they’re demanding an FBI investigation. It turns out that if anyone committed any federal crimes, they did.

      mathewsjw in reply to MarkSmith. | September 19, 2018 at 4:00 am

      FBI investigated Blasey Ford’s Claim and Responded Tuesday: “It’s totally inappropriate for someone to demand we use law enforcement resources to investigate a 35-year-old allegation when she won’t go under oath and can’t remember key details including when or where it happened.”

      You missed the rumor Romney putting Kavanaugh on SCotUS list triggered the memories thus the couples counseling

      Also rumor of writing Defamation letter to Senate about Gorsuch.

      there’s tidbits on Blasey Ford doing Socialist Warrior Justice actions, but have not seen said actions collected in a single source article (hope the editors read this).

    Arminius in reply to Joe-dallas. | September 19, 2018 at 12:20 am

    Actually Maryland does have a statute of limitations for sexual assault. Three years. If you follow the links the Prof provides you’ll get to an WaPo article from the 90s about how the Maryland supreme court refused to waive the statute of limitations for two women who claimed they suddently recovered memories of their parish priest sexually assaulting them back in the late sixties and early seventies. Their attorney argued the statue of limitations clock should start when they remembered the assaults, not when the abuse actually occurred. They said no dice, and ruled the women couldn’t file a criminal complaint.

    I’m sure Banks and Katz know this as well, but no matter. They want howl at the sky and appear to want to make a federal case out what appears not to even qualify as a state crime. It’s political circuses all the way down.

    mathewsjw in reply to Joe-dallas. | September 19, 2018 at 4:01 am

    FBI investigated Blasey Ford’s Claim and Responded Tuesday: “It’s totally inappropriate for someone to demand we use law enforcement resources to investigate a 35-year-old allegation when she won’t go under oath and can’t remember key details including when or where it happened.”

she will not testify until after an FBI investigation.

And another attempt by the axis of misandry to criminalize the act of being a teenage boy bites the dust.

    MajorWood in reply to tom_swift. | September 19, 2018 at 12:48 am

    I think we have come full circle. Teen boys loved Bill Klinton and the liberals because he made oral sex acceptable as a dinnertime converstaion topic, but now the liberals have defined “making a move” as rape, so a huge future voting block has shifted to the right. And of course, this means that the #metoo pool will go the way of The Shakers, since their only option down the road on Saturday night will ironically be “washing their hair.”


More news
Jeff Flake now says that if she doesn’t testify monday he will agree to move forward.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattvespa/2018/09/18/jeff-flake-if-kavanaugh-accuser-fails-to-show-up-ill-vote-to-move-ahead-n2520288

The Wronged Damsel Card has been played in the toxic feminist era of #metoo, and shamed the repubs to be bullied to postpone the committee vote–

Super win for the democommunists, and now they control the field, adding demands and requirements, caught like a fish,

Now the repubs will fish or cut bait. Maybe find their inner Godfather, and offer them nothing, and half of that if they don’t accept the first offer.

In 2012 Kavanaugh was already being discussed in the national media as the leading candidate for a SCOTUS seat if the Republicans won the White House. What would be interesting to see is if her “therapy” was before or after that started in being tossed around in the mix of the presidential campaign. If after… I wouldn’t trust it a bit.

I’m not a lawyer, but even I know you won’t be able to compel the release of medical records against the patients’ wishes.
Of course, that’s why they chose this as a vehicle.

    When you release some records you waive privileged with respect to those records. You can compel about anything touching on the released part.

    Arminius in reply to Matt_SE. | September 19, 2018 at 12:44 am

    Not true, Matt. Local, state and federal law enforcement investigators can get warrants to seize medical records. Patient privacy laws like HIPAA aren’t absolute guarantees to privacy.

Here’s how this will play out…. She won’t show to any hearing, but they’ll have some Kabuki theatre anyway. Then the Rino’s will say “there is no pattern of abuse here” and they’ll schedule the vote. Then right before the vote another lying prog will pop up out of nowhere to scuttle him. McConnell needs to just put some sand on it and ram it, good and hard. Give these lying motherfu*kers what they deserve.

They have lost their collective minds.

    cloudbuster1 in reply to Elzorro. | September 19, 2018 at 9:03 am

    Well, their minds ARE small,
    and hard to get in gear. Easy
    to lose, and not worth looking
    for. We’ve all seen this Rodeo,
    and it is getting boring.

I am surprised Dr. Ford will not attend and almost expect her to show at the last minute. Guess well see.

One thing I’d like to know us the date of the therapist note. Was it pre or post March 19, 2012? In March 2012 Jeffery Toobin wrote a scathing article for the New Yorker on Judge Kavanaugh and the possibility of a nomination to the SCOTUS should a Republican win. Did that article “trigger” her memory recall?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newyorker.com/magazine/2012/03/26/holding-court/amp

    Arminius in reply to WillS68. | September 19, 2018 at 4:03 pm

    She can’t just show up last minute if she expects to testify before the committee. That would be like getting a wedding invitation and failing to RSVP. Then showing up with a party of five at the reception and expecting to be seated.

    Except this is ten times worse. In order to testify, CBF must first provide a written bio and written testimony. Grassley has given her a deadline to provide those materials of ten a.m. Friday. This is treating her way to generously. How do they even evaluate those documents when really all they’ll have is the weekend to do it? If I were the committee chairman I would have given her and her attorneys a deadline of of ten a.m. Thursday at the latest so my staff would have time to review and verify basic facts.

    That said she and her attorneys may show up last minute knowing full well that she won’t be allowed to testify. But that will just prove it’s all just a despicable stunt designed to delay Kavanaugh’s confirmation.

I hope Grassley sticks to his guns on this, Monday is plenty of time for her to be prepared unless she has to fabricate more of the story.

This is about delaying the hearing, in other words, a Democrat game tactic, requesting that the FBI investigate this before she will testify really means pushing the vote off for months, as you know the FBI wouldn’t be able to close any investigation out within a week or two.

Grassley should say they are giving her the opportunity to speak out, to be heard. She had prepared months for this, and make no mistake, this was 100% planned. No one would do a lie detector test, set up a lawyer for this, leak to various sources including Finestein, without the intent to be outed. She had played the game of wanting to remain anonymous to buy time. Now it’s needing the FBI to investigate before she will agree to testify. It’s all about buying time till after the midterms, or close enough to them that the vote gets delayed.

She is an activist leftist, and the timeline of her telling about this sounds more convenient than truthful.

Being that she has used the therapist as part of justifying her claim, then the therapist should be released to giving full testimony to her claims.

Grassley probably sees this for what it truly is, and I hope he puts an end to the game being played with this harpy.

The purpose here seems to be delay. In that it succeeds brilliantly. DF knew about this for weeks and told no one. Brings it up last minute as an anonymous charge. Finally attaches a name but leaves world hanging on whether she’ll testify. Just putrid behavior that needs to be shut down.The hearings start, they drag on, she holds the charge, – that’s just not how hearings should work. You knew it at the beginning, you didn’t bring it up, you are out of order.

“If this is a case of repressed memory…” Really? “If” so you’re basing an entire report on an “If?” You are as bad as the fake media.

Firstly, is it common for therapists to make errors in their session notes? I would have thought that they would be scrupulously trained to be accurate in them.

Secondly, I’ve seen no inquires into the type of person Dr. Ford is or was. Not only for why she was in therapy, but also what was she like back in high school? It would be interesting to hear from other people who knew her back then.

1. The polygraph–1) we don’t know how many other polygraphs were taken by Ford before she (supposedly) “passed” this one. 2) the results of the polygraph–the actual polygrapher’s findings–have not been released. So, we don’t actually know what it says. 3) Other polygraphers who are neutral should be permitted to evaluate the report, and the underlying data–i.e. the long pieces of paper with squiggly lines, or the data read out. And we know that’s never going to happen. 4) It actually sounds like Ford’s attorney Katz felt she needed the “cover” of the polygraph in the event the whole charade imploded–as it seems to now be in the process of doing–and Katz might have had to worry about ethics charges, i.e. for bringing these allegations against Kavanaugh with no “good faith basis.” At least with the cover of a polygraph report, Katz can state she had a “good faith basis” (even if unpersuasive and inadmissible in a court of law) for what she is doing by representing Ford.

2. Feinstein–not trying to defend her, but she may have “sat” on this precisely because she felt it was as likely to backfire and implode as to do any good for the Dems’ anti-Kavanaugh campaign. Say what you want about DiFi, she’s not a political novice, and you don’t survive this long in the game by taking a huge risk which might politically backfire, bigly. It was actually FORD HERSELF that “outed” herself over this past weekend by outing herself to the media, either CNN or MSNBC I think.

One may assume that DiFi’s various staffers, intermediaries, and apparatchiks certainly TRIED to get “corroboration” from Ford and Katz between July and now, and as we can plainly see, no such corroboration was provided.

So, as tempting to DiFi as it might have seemed, on the surface, to use these July allegations to “sink” Kavanaugh’s S.Ct. bid, why would DiFi stick her neck out for someone who is quite possibly, if not an out and out liar, a nut job? DiFi isn’t that stupid, so she didn’t do that. It was FORD herself who disclosed her identity in the media and “forced” the issue to where it is now. (Again I am not defending DiFi, just proposing an alternative interpretation of what has happened, and her role in it, which is at least plausible.)

3. It’s obvious that due to #metoo the Repubs in the Senate would have handled Ford with kid gloves if she had agreed to testify. No one wants an out of context sound bite used against them in the next election cycle, portraying them as a mean old white male repub who hates women, esp. women who think they were abused by a white male republican 35 years ago.

4. The demand for an FBI investigation, if not merely a delay tactic to avoid perjuring herself before the Senate Committee, completely typifies the self centered, narcissistic, ego centric, Borderline Personality Disorder sort of person who might actually confabulate or imagine or unleash a suppressed memory, while able to pass a lie detector because she actually believes it happened, simultaneously with the alleged “fact” of the assault being completely imaginary.

5. This will backfire BIGLY for the Dems if Ford does not testify on Sept. 24. If there was a blue wave coming in November (doubtful but possible), it will now be purple if not red. One thing Senators are sure of, is their kingly and queenly prerogatives of their club limited to 100 members. You don’t try to dictate Senate procedures, you little pissants (i.e. Katz and Ford.) We GAVE you the chance to testify, to tell us your story, and you SPIT IN OUR FACE. F.U.

6. Real normal mentally stable Americans of both parties and independents, who are not totally die hard political hacks or nutcases, will understand that Kavanaugh must be RESOUNDINGLY confirmed to refute these illegitimate political tactics–as well as to refute the notion that to the extent the #metoo movement is legitimate, it is only legitimate insofar as it represents the interests of actually-abused men and women–and is not to be hijacked like it clearly has been here.

    Arminius in reply to Marco100. | September 19, 2018 at 6:35 pm

    Marco, polygraph results are garbage. Search on the names Nicolás Sirgado, Ana Montes, and Aldrich Ames. Sirgado was a Cuban national, in fact a Cuban Interior Ministry officer (their state security, the equivalent of the KGB) who was provided with sufficient cover to infiltrate the CIA. He was a double agent for the Cuban government from 1966 to 1976, then fled back to Havana. He passed three polygraphs. Certainly he had polygraph countermeasures training.

    Ana Montes is an American citizen of Cuban descent. I’ve mentioned her before and initially thought she had no training in polygraph countermeasures. But the prosecutors in her espionage case alleged that she was already working for the Cubans before she joined the Defense Intelligence Agency in 1985 and it turns out that there is a factual basis for that. There’s evidence that she and her recruiter Marta Rita Velasquez (also an American citizen working for the USG), traveled to Cuba in 1983 where their training included polygraph countermeasures. After joining the DIA she also passed a polygraph. She eventually was promoted to become the DIA’s senior analyst for all Cuban related matters before she was busted for spying in 2001. And it wasn’t a polygraph that caught her.

    Ex CIA officer Robert Ames wrote that two of his colleagues operating undercover in Cuba were caught by their state security because there were more Cuban moles. These Cuban double agents always pass the polygraph.

    Aldrich Ames, no relation, was the most damaging traitor in CIA history. He started spying for the KGB in 1985. Then teh CIA started losing assets in the Eastern bloc at an alarming rate. The CIA didn’t want to admit they had a highly placed mole, so they started hunting for Soviet bugs o86r broken code. In the meantime Ames passed two polygraphs while spying for the KGB. One in 1986 and again in 1991. He was never caught by the polygraph; what did him in was by the time of his arrest the Soviets had paid him $4.6M and he was living like rock star, far beyond what he could afford on his salary, and eventually someone noticed.

    Ames had no polygraph countermeasure training so at first he panicked when meeting with his KGB handler. His handler told him, “Just relax.” So Ames relaxed and passed with flying colors. Essentially, no one knows what physiological reactions indicate deception. There’s no scientific consensus. The people with the most to lose financially, the polygraph examiner community, insist that polygraphs are extremely accurate. On the other hand there is close to scientific consensus on one fact only. Polygraphs are only effective at detecting lies to the degree the examinee believes they are effective at detecting lies.

    The reason the Cubans (and other moles from other hostile countries) never get caught is because they’ve had enough practice to know for a fact that polygraphs don’t work.

    They’re really arbitrary and subjective. To illustrate, in the late 90s the FBI administered polygraphs as part of their employment screening process and had a failure rate of 20%. After 9/11 the failure rate more than doubled and rose to 50%. Why? Because the number of applicants had risen so dramatically after the attacks that the FBI thought they could afford to lose more prospects. So they had their examiners change their rating procedures to produce more failures. The fact of the matter examiners can adjust their criteria any way the want, and if their employers want more failures than what wasn’t a deceptive answer yesterday is a deceptive answer tomorrow. And, frankly, polygraph examiners are hired to find liars. So they’ll adjust their criteria to produce liars because that’s job security.

    A few years ago prospective hires for Customs and Border Patrol were failing their pre-employment polygraphs at the rate of approximately 80%. Why? CBP was using retired US Secret Service examiners who were double dipping. They were getting their nice fat USSS pensions and a hefty salary from DHS. So they were extra motivated. They were administering polygraphs that lasted 4-8 hours. What does a polygraph measure? A person’s biological responses such as blood pressure, heart rate, respiratory rate, etc. The idea that these physiological responses have any relationship to whether or not you’re telling the truth is a myth. I can guarantee that if someone aggressively interrogates you for four to eight hours your blood pressure is going to go up, as well as all the other biological functions the machine measures. Not because you’re lying, but you’re stressed, anxious, and maybe angry. The USSS examiners were extremely aggressive, even hostile, hence the huge failure rate. There are only five states in the Union that permit polygraph test results in criminal court, and then only if both sides agree to enter the results into evidence. The other 45 don’t allow them in at all.

    I could care less if CBF passed a polygraph. It’s entirely meaningless.

7. On the issue of the therapy records–I agree that the unredacted entire file of her couples’ therapy records now needs to be produced. We need to know why she was in couples’ therapy to begin with. Many times one or the other spouse has committed infidelity and the recourse is to “couples therapy” to deal with it to avoid divorce. Often couples therapy is instigated by the female spouse of a heterosexual couple, and often in response to having been caught cheating. If so, Ford could have fabricated a b.s. story about having been vaguely abused in the past by unidentified assailants, then at some subsequent point in time between 2012 and now, confabulated Kavanaugh into her story.

If it turns out Ford was in couples therapy because she’s a cheater or was a cheater and lied about it to her husband until she was caught cheating, no it’s not “slut shaming”–it’s proof that she’s a cheater and a liar.

I won’t hold my breath waiting for those records to be released, Prof. Jacobson.

    MajorWood in reply to Marco100. | September 19, 2018 at 11:05 am

    I was looking at Ford’s Wiki page and noted that our time in Chapel Hill overlapped, so now I am concerned that walking down Franklin St at the same that she was will be construed as “stalking” the next time a shrink goes digging around in her noggin.

    Albigensian in reply to Marco100. | September 19, 2018 at 11:39 am

    I expect reasonable people would admit that there are many, many, many reasons why clients might say things that are something less than “the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth” in couples therapy?

7. On the issue of the therapy records–I agree that the unredacted entire file of her couples’ therapy records now needs to be produced. We need to know why she was in couples’ therapy to begin with. Many times one or the other spouse has committed infidelity and the recourse is to “couples therapy” to deal with it to avoid divorce. Often couples therapy is instigated by the female spouse of a heterosexual couple, and often in response to having been caught cheating. If so, Ford could have fabricated a b.s. story about having been vaguely abused in the past by unidentified assailants, then at some subsequent point in time between 2012 and now, confabulated Kavanaugh into her story.

If it turns out Ford was in couples therapy because she’s a cheater or was a cheater and lied about it to her husband until she was caught cheating, no it’s not “slut shaming”–it’s proof that she’s a cheater and a liar.

I won’t hold my breath waiting for those records to be released, Prof. Jacobson.

Several points:
1. Katz isn’t her attorney, she’s her media handler. And who is paying her attorney/handler? She has to bill in excess of $500/hr. That’s a lot of money on a second rate college employee salary.
2. I’ve known psychologists. They psychoanalyze themselves constantly. It’s impossible that she hasn’t been dealing with this in therapy for decades, unless, of course, she just made it up.
3. Psychotherapists regularly undergo therapy with other psychologists as a professional necessity due to the nature of their work. Why hadn’t this one little thing of being attacked and almost raped and killed ever come up in those sessions?
4. This is very similar to Lena Dunning claiming the campus Republican raped her. She ruined that guys life in an attempt to sell books and get street cred.
5. The story is too perfect. If they were just two drunk teenagers feeling each other up and she has second thoughts and runs out that’s normal. By claiming that he put his hand over her mouth, now it’s an attack. By claiming she thought she was going to die, it makes it attempted murder on top of rape. By injecting another boy into the picture it’s the trifecta of evil. Very convenient for somebody who recalls absolutely no other details.

This is not a win. It’s a holding action.

Kamala Harris was on a morning talk show and was asked, as a former prosecutor, given a 36 year old case, would she bring charges and take it to trial?
She evaded the question, parroting the party line “more time…”
Prosecutors like to have a winning record. This case is a dog. It’s “she said, he said,” both were juveniles, it was 36 years ago, and key details are missing. Last, one person that supposedly was there says it didn’t happen.
“no resonable prosecutor would bring this to trial.” James Comey talking about Hillary Clinton. It’s the same here.
This isn’t a criminal case. The statute limitations is past. The people were juveniles at the time. So is this a family court case?
That the information sat for months is telling. Finestien had a half hour one on one with Kavanaugh and didn’t bring it up. It’s clear the democrats placed no value in the claim until there was nothing left to use.

While this is fresh in people’s minds, I hope that the Senate adopts some rules of discovery wherein evidence, witnesses, and what-not that is not in the hands of the committee at the beginning of testimony shall mean dick in the proceedings. I think the libs and Hollywood are starting to believe that real-life is like the dramas they manufacture and watch on TV.

Her remembrances seem constructed. Like what you’d get in a lawyers meeting to examine what would or would not expose her to slander and that would allow the subject to pass a lie detector examination.

Not making accusations but since she is a lawyer one could expect that she’s had at least thoughts about similar topics and could have used a discussion panel by her classes to perhaps firm up or point out any flaws.

That anyone in the world could believe there is any truth to her statements is beyond belief. They seem more like dream sequences. And BTW this is what recovered memories look like.

I’ve made contact with someone I knew intimately 40 years ago and comparing memories has been revealing of how much was lost and how much is untrue of the memories I’ve held for so long.

That the Democrats chose to unleash this crisis upon the Congress is despicable but oh so typical.

They should lose 20 points in all races this November because of it. (I hope)

If Feinstein knew in early summer that Kavanaugh may have been a sexual predator, why didn’t she shut him down before he coached girls little league softball?

    Marco100 in reply to Rocky. | September 19, 2018 at 4:51 pm

    Because probably even Feinstein didn’t believe it. There’s no real corroboration.

    Everyone in D.C. probably already knows everything there is to know about Kavanaugh and whatever his dirty little secrets actually are. It’s not as if Kavanaugh is coming out of nowhere like a Souter. Kavanaugh is an old D.C. hand. A known quantity.

    There’s no way that if Kavanaugh did this, he only did this one time, with one person, ever. There HAVE to be other accusers to come out of the woodwork.

    Where are they?

This fruitloop is sooooooo screwed up she sees ghosts in her closet and under her bed…. I just wonder how much money she received from her Democrap buddies to come forward with this tripe at this time??? And I’ll bet you the Democrap party is reneging on future payments, that’s why Dr Ford wont come to DC….

What no police report, no trial?

Talk about the Manchurian Candidate. Poly Graphs obviously have limited legal range but in the court of Public Opinion and according to the rules of Plausible Deniability they come in handy. Its actually very clever and required some long range planning. The “plot” has to arise spontaneously in the operative with plenty of self-deception to work. The seed is planted and any deception repressed as a new lethal one is invented and exposed. The memory is limited in detail to avoid too much scrutiny but emotionally drawn to amplify the attack on its target and at a minimum win some women back to the Progressive camp in November if it falls short.

Its true if you convince yourself it is and it helps when the process of reprogramming is managed by a psychiatrist who now should be examined and her records analyzed. There is a trail to be found, Soros is paying the fees.

Nothing like recovered memories to make your day. Way too often Voodoo psychology. And so many people have suffered from them their effects.

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