Samantha Bee calls Ivanka Trump a “feckless c*nt” on TBS show
UPDATE: Samantha has apologized.
As you all know, ABC cancelled Roseanne after the star tweeted about Valerie Jarett: “Muslim brotherhood & planet of the apes had a baby=vj.”
I wonder if TBS will cancel Samantha Bee’s Full Frontal because last night she called Ivanka Trump a “feckless c*nt.”
On Monday, I blogged about how the media and former officials during President Barack Obama’s administration used pictures from 2014 and 2016 to attack President Donald Trump on immigration.
Apparently, there are some who are still trying to stretch it against Trump, including Bee. From Mediaite (emphasis mine):
Bee noted that the policy of separating migrant children from their parents is not new, as it happened during the Obama administration, but joked, “neither is my alcoholism, but it’s getting a lot worse under Trump.”
Bee eventually took aim at Ivanka Trump, who faced criticism from liberals after posting a photo of her son this weekend on Twitter amidst reports that HHS had lost track of nearly 1,500 migrant children placed with families.
“Ivanka Trump, who works at the White House, chose to post the second most oblivious tweet we’ve seen this week,” Bee said. “Ivanka, that’s a beautiful photo of you and your child, but let me just say, one mother to another, do something about your dad’s immigration practices you feckless cunt!”
“He listens to you,” she added. “Put on something tight and low-cut and tell your father to fucking stop it. Tell him it was an Obama thing and see how it goes, okay?”
Not only did Bee use one of the most horrid slurs to call a female, but she also encouraged Ivanka to dress like a slut and seduce her own father.
Will Hollywood and the media show off its double standards in this case? President of ABC Channing Dungey described Rosanne’s tweet about Jarrett as “abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with our values.” Robert Iger, the chairman of Disney (which owns ABC), said canceling the show “was the right thing.” He even called Jarrett to apologize and set things straight.
Will TBS do the same thing? Or is some hateful speech okay? We reached out to TBS and asked for a statement or comment: “We are writing about the comment by Samantha Bee on her TBS show calling Ivanka Trump a “feckless c*nt”. Does TBS have a statement on that? Is TBS cancelling the show the way ABC cancelled Roseanne? Will the CEO of TBS be calling Ms. Trump to apologize?”
First Lady Melania Trump’s officer provided a comment to The Daily Caller:
The official spokesperson for the First Lady, Stephanie Grisham, gave the Daily Caller an exclusive statement on the issue on behalf of Melania Trump. Grisham said “The double standard is truly astounding,” concerning the vulgar comments. “Time and again the Trump family and members of this Administration are subjected to false reporting, hateful rhetoric and outrageous lies all in the name of freedom of speech or comedy, yet the main stream media stays silent.”
People on social media have noted the double standard:
This is disgusting. How is this acceptable? And how are we expected to take any of these publications seriously if they gleefully repost something like this at the same time they (rightfully) condemn @therealroseanne? You know the saying Love is Love? Well Hate is Hate. https://t.co/YTjmZQ4zMV
— Megyn Kelly (@megynkelly) May 31, 2018
And if you called Samantha Bee a “Feckless Cunt” on any social media platform, their “trust and safety” council would have you purged like a Trotsky statue. https://t.co/4mQBgfirPn
— Marc J. Randazza (@marcorandazza) May 31, 2018
Samantha Bee calls Ivanka Trump a “feckless c*nt.”
How does the liberal media respond?
With celebratory headlines, of course‘TEARS INTO, RIPS, SHREDS’
Disgraceful. pic.twitter.com/Pz5rLbH1NM
— Chet Cannon (@Chet_Cannon) May 31, 2018
I’m sure @TBSNetwork promptly canceled Samantha Bee’s show after her vulgar remark about Ivanka Trump because those are the rules now right @therealroseanne? Or is there some view Samantha holds that makes her different? Just wondering where the consistency is guys… https://t.co/BWpxSqv3Mq
— Robby Starbuck (@robbystarbuck) May 31, 2018
Samantha Bee called Ivanka Trump a “feckless c*nt” on TV
Take it away, Molly and @chrislhayes… pic.twitter.com/zlQH0wMu2x
— Chet Cannon (@Chet_Cannon) May 31, 2018
When you’re woke, they let you do it pic.twitter.com/WDTylNUTwW
— Jon Levine (@LevineJonathan) May 31, 2018
Advancing social change by calling women “feckless cunts.”
This is the Left. https://t.co/fKNMdZVo6l
— Ashe Schow (@AsheSchow) May 31, 2018
Tell Obama daughters to “show a little class”: Resign from your job after the tremendous backlash
Call Trump’s daughter a “feckless c-nt”: Get an Emmy award for advancing social change https://t.co/BDuk99uc3C
— Cameron Gray (@Cameron_Gray) May 31, 2018
Hi Brian. Samantha Bee just called Ivanka Trump a feckless cunt on broadcast television. Will you be asking TBS for a statement?
(Your rules)— Stephen Miller (@redsteeze) May 31, 2018
Perez Hilton, who is a liberal, spoke out against it:
This is unnecessarily harsh! I don’t like Ivanka Trump and her actions and inactions, but calling her a C U Next Tuesday is unwarranted and too much! https://t.co/3uw8iEnn5Q
— Perez (@ThePerezHilton) May 31, 2018
We emailed TBS seeking comment, but as of this writing have not heard back:
“We are writing about the comment by Samantha Bee on her TBS show calling Ivanka Trump a “feckless c*nt”. Does TBS have a statement on that? Is TBS cancelling the show the way ABC cancelled Roseanne? Will the CEO of TBS be calling Ms. Trump to apologize?”
Bee has apologized:
I would like to sincerely apologize to Ivanka Trump and to my viewers for using an expletive on my show to describe her last night. It was inappropriate and inexcusable. I crossed a line, and I deeply regret it.
— Samantha Bee (@iamsambee) May 31, 2018
She also lost one advertiser:
Thank you to those who reached out regarding our sponsorship of Full Frontal. The comments expressed by Samantha Bee were offensive and unacceptable and do not reflect the views of our company. As a result, we have suspended our sponsorship of Full Frontal with Samantha Bee.
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Time to Barr her from all public life then.
#BANTHEBEE !!!!!!
#BANTHEBARR !!!!!
Samantha Bee, a hideously ugly,inside and out, obnoxious feckless c*nt. Perhaps feckless Bee should be banished to live with the Taliban, where hardly anyone will have to see or hear her again.
“. . . reports that HHS had lost track of nearly 1,500 migrant children placed with families.”
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These “migrant” (i.e., illegal alien) children are not lost. They were reunited (at considerable U.S. taxpayer expense) with their illegal alien parents or other family members living in the U.S., who choose not to keep ICE informed of their current whereabouts, for all the obvious reasons.
So sick of all these astonishingly ignorant leftists whining about the poor, mistreated illegal aliens who have been deliberately violating U.S. laws and scamming the U.S. immigration system, at a cost to U.S. taxpayers of many billions of dollars every year. This scrunt, like all the other leftists who simply repeat the current lefty meme like a bunch of mindless parrots, needs to pull her head out of her butt and acquaint herself with some actual facts before she opens her ignorant mouth again.
So they have records of who they were placed with or are you merely speculating on that? Big difference.
As for the claim that ignorance is mostly on the left – I call BS. Since it is off-topic, I will not pursue this further. Buy I easily could.
Your hatred is noted.
The only person showing ignorance here is you with this comment. Yes ICE has records of who it placed the children with, how do you think they knew who to follow up with. There have been many reports on this situation the past week. Reminder google can be your friend and keep you from foot in mouth.
No one or thing can protect Grifter from stupid.
Is there any point to your existence, here as a commenter or in life in general? You seem to think you’re clever, even a moral person. You are neither.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/federal-judge-obama-administration-aids-and-abets-human-trafficking-hans-von-spakovsky/
“…On December 13, federal district court Judge Andrew S. Hanen of Brownsville, Texas, issued his order in U.S. v. Nava-Martinez. It described in shocking detail the malfeasance of the government. Mirtha Veronica Nava-Martinez, an admitted human trafficker and resident alien, pleaded guilty to attempting to smuggle a ten-year-old El Salvadoran girl into the U.S. This was Nava-Martinez’s second felony offense; she was convicted of food-stamp fraud in 2011. She was caught at the Brownsville & Matamoros Bridge checkpoint in Texas, after being hired by “persons unknown” to smuggle the girl into the U.S. The girl’s mother, Patricia Elizabeth Salmeron Santos, is an illegal alien living in Virginia. She had solicited the unknown smugglers to get her daughter from El Salvador to the U.S. for the agreed-upon price of $8,500.
As Judge Hanen pointed out, the human-trafficking conspiracy instigated by Salmeron Santos was interrupted when Nava-Martinez was arrested, but the “goal of the conspiracy was successfully completed thanks to the actions of the United States.” Hanen expressed grave concern over the “apparent policy of [DHS] of completing the criminal mission of individuals who are violating the border security of the United States.”
After the child was taken into custody, DHS agents learned that the mother had “instigated this illegal conduct.” Yet DHS delivered the child to the mother and took no enforcement action: “It did not arrest her. It did not prosecute her. It did not even initiate deportation proceedings for her.” As the judge said, “instead of enforcing the laws of the United States, the Government took direct steps to help the individuals who violated it,” conduct for which any “private citizen would, and should, be prosecute.”
What especially angered the judge was that this was the fourth case of this nature that he “had in as many weeks.” All involved “human traffickers who smuggled minor children [and] were apprehended short of delivering the children to their ultimate destination.” In each case, the parents were in this country illegally and had initiated and funded the illegal activity. And in each instance, DHS completed the crime by delivering the child to the parents and refusing to take any action against them…”
What we have here with illegal aliens is just one huge ongoing criminal enterprise. They have to commit crimes just to stay here. Every time they sign an I9 form claiming they can legally work in the US, that’s perjury and under the Treasury Code it’s a five year felony. Then when they provide fraudulent documents that’s document fraud; another five year felony. These are not victimless crimes. Because those fraudulent documents comprise either partial or full identity theft. And if the SSN has’t been issued yet, it will be. To some American child who will be born with a criminal record, massive credit card debt, and the IRS after him or her about unpaid taxes. And if it has been issued, it could be yours. So if the cops pull you over for a broken tail light it could turn into a felony stop, and you will not enjoy it and you won’t be able to clear things up quickly. Because some criminal alien has given you a criminal pedigree.
So, take your talk of “hate” and shove it. You can’t even identify the people you imagine I hate simply because I want to secure our borders and fix our visa system. Do you think I hate Mexicans? Why; even the Mexican Americans I know are disgusted with this law breaking. And there are more OTMs (Other Than Mexicans) sneaking across our southern border than Mexicans. They come from all over the world. Have you ever seen a rape tree?
https://static.westernjournal.com/ct/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/rape-tree.jpg
The people paying several thousand dollars for someone to smuggle their children into this country know exactly what kind of danger they’re putting their children in. That’s why they put them on birth control. While I have sympathy for the child, I have none for the parents as this is nothing more than lethal child abuse. Because, take a look at that tree. That’s a trophy room for a human trafficker. It means he showed some woman or girl he was smuggling into the country who is boss. And that means he or more likely they showed all the illegal aliens who is boss. And neither you nor I know if the woman stripped of her underwear or Jeans (and then forced to complete the journey naked from the waist down) is from Mexico, Guatemala, Korea, or Poland. And she’s the lucky one, because a lot of women, girls, boys, and men don’t make it across the border. The cartels see to their slavery needs.
Then there’s the fact that forty percent of the illegal aliens in this country are visa overstays. Again, from all over the globe.
If anyone hates, it’s you. Why do you hate Americans? That’s a rhetorical question, leftist scumbag. I know people who loved south Texas; lived there their whole lives. But they had to give up their properties and flee north. It’s just not safe. One of the reasons why is ranchers rarely own the mineral rights to their own land. Which means there are dozens of vehicles on their property that have the absolute right to be there. And then there are vehicles on their property that don’t have any right to be there, but it’s impossible to know which vehicle belongs to the oil company that owns the mineral rights and which is being driven by coyotes. And it’s all pure murder. Both for the illegal aliens…
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/07/8-found-dead-in-texas-truck-victims-of-human-trafficking.html
…and for the Americans who have to live with it.
Summer is almost here. It’s already hot on the southern border. I’ll keep you posted on the illegal aliens broiled to death in hot semi trailers because, well, the coyotes already have been paid and they notice the cops paying them too much attention why not just park the truck in a Walmart parking lot and walk away. And you can lecture me about my “hate.”
Self-loathing haters gots to get their misogyny on.
Barry O to condescend & lecture us on ‘this is not who we are’ in…. never.
This loser has a show on TBS?
And if you go to the TBS webpage they have Samantha Bee as the main display. Sad to see a once good network go to shit.
The first time I saw Samantha Bee was before she got her TBS show. She made the impression of being a low-life and vulgar.
http://www.tbs.com/shows/full-frontal-with-samantha-bee/season-3/episode-11/may-30-2018
who we need to ask is NOT TBS BUT THE ADVERTISERS IF THIS IS WHO THEY AGREE WITH BY SPONSORING THIS ‘FINE ADULT FARE’…
if the answer is yes then we can take our business elsewhere.
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Samantha Bee Thanks ‘Full Frontal’ Advertisers, Acknowledges “We Are A Challenging Show For Brands”
https://deadline.com/2017/05/samantha-bee-1202096504/#!
We emailed TBS seeking comment, but as of this writing have not heard back
Good luck with that.. I am willing to go way out on a limb and predict that MSM will fail the test, bigly.
BTW I thought Mr. Branco really nailed this today.
“We are writing about the comment by Samantha Bee on her TBS show calling Ivanka Trump a “feckless c*nt”. Does TBS have a statement on that? Is TBS cancelling the show the way ABC cancelled Roseanne? Will the CEO of TBS be calling Ms. Trump to apologize?”
Totally on-point, appropriate, and equitable. I agree, and hope that Bee is taken off the air and that the CEO of TBS DOES apologize to Mrs. Kushner (not Ms. Trump).
Just for curiosity’s sake I tried to see if Ivanka had changed her last name to Kushner, but came up blank. Every place I looked online referred to her as Ivanka Trump.
Why do you think that would be the common thing? I really doubt that she retained her maiden name. But my usage is much less confusing and PC. I mean, how many “Ms. Trumps” can you name, past and present?
You could argue that what Roseanne Barr said was a joke. A favorite lefty excuse when they say something derogatory about a conservative.
This Samatha Bee remark was clearly not a joke.
Fish gotta swim and pigs, like Samantha Bee, gotta vomit out trash. No woman with any self-respect or decency would ever use the hated “C” word.
This pig, and I apologia to pigs for including her in their species, is for and from the left and that is supposed to be the “Women’s” party. Guess not.
How can say its a double standard? The legacy media and progressives have no standards. Whatever it takes to achieve victory.
Devil’s advocacy/spit-balling….
Is it possible that anger over Hollywood/media hypocrisy is the result of unreasonable expectations that the entire entertainment and media industry should be completely consistent? No other industry is consistent across the board, nor is any other industry held to that standard and requirement.
If it was wrong to cancel Roseanne Barr’s TV show for a perceived offensive threat, isn’t it wrong to cancel Samatha Bee’s show for the same essential reason, offensive speech? “But what Bee said was far worse!” Fine. I agree. But who among us is prepared to draw the exact lines on this? Who in media or government are we willing to let draw those lines? Wouldn’t this effort be the seed of censorship?
Personally, I don’t care if this or that show is cancelled or kept because of/despite somebody’s ugly comments. I rarely watch cable TV because streaming video on Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, et al, have spoiled me – I can no longer tolerate shows with commercials (excepting sports events typically broadcast on cable). Cable TV is dying a slow death anyway. I never saw an episode of the new Roseanne Barr show. I’ve never seen an episode of Samatha Bee’s show. I’m guessing less than 5% of Americans have.
There’s a human behavioral observation that goes, “the solutions to our problems are seldom a change in someone else’s behavior”. I disliked Barr’s tweet. I dislike Bee’s foul attack on Ivanka Trump. But I find the solution to the problem of my dislike very easy – don’t watch those shows and don’t support those bad actors in any other current or future endeavors. If cable TV or any other venue for entertainment and media want to broadcast such ugliness – regardless of from which side of the political spectrum it emits – the free market system will settle their hash. They’ll die of ratings starvation. It’s already happening as we speak.
It reminds me of commenters calling for the banning of others because they don’t like what and/or how they post, as if they are forced to read them and not allowed to simply ignore them.
This… “If it was wrong to cancel Roseanne Barr’s TV show for a perceived offensive threat…” should have read “offensive tweet”.
Auto-correct does not like the word ‘tweet’.
Yes, it is wrong or will/would be, if it ever happens. However, it is equally or moreso wrong to apply a double standard of morality and virtue signaling with the power and influence that big networks wield.
Wrong certainly, but they’ve made an industry out of it and clearly don’t care. Change the channel, I say, which I’m sure you have. The nets are free to act as hypocritically as they wish, and they’ll either reap rewards or pay a price for it.
I agree and can see the boycotts never ending due to the divisive nature of our country. I know boycotting has always been an option and has been utilized in the past, but Trump in office seems to have triggered a ratcheting up to a level that advertisers are continually coming out with “That is not who we are statements.” Yes, there is a double standard, but rational people know it.
I pulled the plug on Comcast cable TV because of their constant price gouging several years ago and because most of what they were selling is garbage.
The end result is that they no longer have any influence. The truth is that TV news drones on and on repeating the same crap. So I now get news online from sources I trust to serve it accurately, LI being one of those trusted sources.
I take your comment on its terms, HH, and generally agree.
BUT…
if I’m a business owner and one of my employees makes an unhinged, grossly offensive remark to one of my customers that I overhear, I’m not waiting until that customer takes their business elsewhere. I’m canning the idiot right there, apologizing to the customer, and making it clear those remarks are not shared by me. That’s still very much a market action.
Networks and sponsors don’t have to wait for lost business or ratings, either on account of dollars or decency.
Oh, I’d do the same and have done the same, having once fired an office employee for using a racial epithet in anger against an NCDMV judge.
My point is that I was equally free not to fire that employee if I’d happened to agree with her and her choice of words. Just so, ABC is free to can Roseanne and TBS is free not to can Samantha Bee. Remediation comes via the market, those turning the channel.
You miss the point here, Hank.
This is not about cancelling some television show because of the behavior of an actor. It is all about equality. What the recent Presidential campaign has shown the people of this nation is that some people are held to a much looser standard than others, either because of their positions or because of their ideology. And, it is abundantly apparent that people who are liberal or anti-Trump have incredibly more room to behave objectionably than do conservatives before their behavior results in any negative actions against them. Look at Servergate as a classic example.
People are tired of the double standard here. If some prominent or popular person hits someone over the head with a tire iron and steals that person’s wallet, people expect the same penalty as that dished out to a poor ghetto dweller who does the same thing. Wealth, position or ideology should not be a consideration.
Personally, I have no opinion on Barr’s tweets at all. Her tweets should have had no effect on Jarret and were highly illustrative of Barr’s character. The same is true about Bee’s comments. Again, they have little or no effect on Trump but are puerile and highly illustrative of the character of Bee and the producers of her show. The reaction to the two comments is also extremely illuminating. And, the disparity in the reactions is what is the issue here. People are simply tired of the fact that some pigs are apparently MORE equal than others.
“Personally, I have no opinion on Barr’s tweets at all. Her tweets should have had no effect on Jarret and were highly illustrative of Barr’s character. The same is true about Bee’s comments. Again, they have little or no effect on Trump but are puerile and highly illustrative of the character of Bee and the producers of her show.”
This caused me to note a distinction that (so far in the thread, reading from the top down – one of the reasons I enjoy LI is the comments, and I tend to read every single one, in order) hasn’t been made: Roseanne’s comments were made on her own time, while Bee’s comments were made on a network’s platform (with sponsors). If anyone should have the boom lowered, it’s Bee, not because of what she said but because of where she said it. So there’s not just a dichotomy between what liberals and conservatives can say and get away with, but a huge difference concerning where they can say it.
I see tom_swift beat me to noticing the difference in the platforms used by Roseanne and Bee.
You don’t understand DaveGinOly…This is the age of outrage!
#TIME2…..
#BANTHEBEE !!!!
#BANTHEBARR !!!!!
(I’m having T-shirts made)
‘Enry ‘Awkins, I only have one question? Who watches that train wreck of a woman?
Um, Roseanne Barr or Samantha Bee? lol
This is the type of situation for which the saying “hoisted upon their own petard” was created. But the MSM refuses to be hoisted.
One can argue if canceling Roseanne’s show was the right thing to do or not, but it’s been done, so it sets the standard. Will the MSM meet that standard consistently? I think we all know the answer to that, but if Bee is sacrificed it is more likely to be because her language was offensive in the extreme and coming to soon after the Roseanne episode. If Bee suffers no consequences for her comments, do you think the next conservative to step on his or her keyboard will be given a pass because the lesson of forgiveness was learned after Roseanne was trashed?
“Devil’s advocacy/spit-balling….”
The problem I have with your line of reasoning is the way it always works out:
Team Blue grabs facemask and advance the ball 15 yards. Team Red complains. Refs ignore it.
Team Blue grabs facemask and advance the ball another 30 yards. Team Red complains. Refs ignore it.
Team Blue grabs facemask and score touchdown. Team Red complains. Refs ignore it.
…Team Red says ok, that doesn’t seem fair but it’s apparently not illegal, so we will facemask too. Flags are thrown, refs consult together and declare facemasking is illegal. 15 yard penalty.
Team Blue now kneecaps and advance the ball 15 yards. Team Red complains. Refs ignore it.
Etc etc ad nauseum.
Final score: Blue 14, Red 0
And Red Team says “well we lost but silver lining – we had a small victory in finally getting facemasking and kneecapping illegal”
For feminists, progressives certainly have a narrow set of rules for what women are allowed to say and do.
Oh, and am I the only one who thinks that Samantha Bee should never allow herself to be framed in the same TV screen with a picture of Ivanka?
True, Bee looks like she’s transitioning to a male.
Beg to differ; the outrage over the Roseanne tweet was entirely because of the racial aspect. If she’d just called her an ugly pussy, let alone merely a communist bitch, there wouldn’t have been nearly the reaction.
“Racism”, another area of our society where some pigs are much more equal than others. But, even worse is the fact that many people fail to recognize exactly what the current obsession with race is really all about; dividing this country along racial lines while destroying the racial majority. Affirmative action, racial quotas for minorities, racial preferences for minorities are all example of institutional racism. And, what is even worse is which racial groups benefit from this institutional racism; Blacks and Hispanics. The Non-Hispanic, heterosexual, Christian, White majority is the largest victim of this institutional discrimination. So are Asians. Nut. somehow the beneficiaries of this discrimination are the victims.
And, this obsession with race was encouraged by Barack Obama and his administrations, actively supported by the news media and the elitist Establishment. A LEO receives a call of a man, who the caller does not recognize, attempting to enter a house next door in a suspicious manner. The LEO finds a black man inside the house. Not knowing who the man is, the LEO respectfully request that the man identify himself. The man becomes highly belligerent but finally produced ID which shows him to be a professor at the university and the resident of the house. The LEO thanks him for his cooperation and leaves. Rather then thanking the officer for protecting his property, the professor pursues him to his vehicle, loudly haranguing him for his action. He continues to the point where he is eventually arrested for DOC. Who is in the wrong here? Most people would say it was the professor. However, the media and Obama weigh in and infer that it was all the fault of the LEO. A resident of a housing complex comes in contact with a non-resident of that complex. For little or no reason, the non-resident physically attacks the resident, knocks him to the ground, straddles his body and continues to brutally beat him for the next 45 seconds to a minute while the man screams for help. The resident, fearing that he will be beaten to death, draws a pistol and shoots the man beating him. The man dies. Most people would say that there was no justification for the beating and due to the duration of it and the fact that the perpetrator showed no inclination to stop, the shooting was justified. Barack Obama and the media again weigh in and infer, or outright state, that the actions of the man being beaten were not only indefensible but racially motivated. A huge man uses physical force to take property from a neighborhood store, without paying. He is stopped by a LEO down the street. The man attacks the LEO, pins him inside his vehicle, beats him and attempts to gain possession of the officer’s pistol. The pistol discharges and the attacker retreats. The LEO then orders the man to stop and is attempting to make a lawful arrest. The man does not surrender but, instead, charges toward the officer in a highly aggressive manner. He is shot and killed. Again, any rational person would view this as being justifiable. However, the media and others paint this as an act motivated by racism.
Get the picture? A reasonable investigation to protect a resident’s property, an act of legitimate self defense and a legitimate exercise of police authority to protect the community are cast as examples of overt racism. This was done for two reasons. The first was to drive a wedge between racial groups in this country to fragment and destroy society. The second was for money.
Racism exist in this country. But the victims are the white majority and certain non-influential minorities. Everyone else is a sacred cow which can not be touched.
Excellent point. Racism towards blacks is the original sin for Americans nowadays and the angered reaction towards Barr’s tweet certainly demonstrates it.
Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? The Shadow knows. So does Milhouse.
“Beg to differ; the outrage over the Roseanne tweet was entirely because of the racial aspect.”
Are you saying the outrage is emphasising the racial aspect? I could buy that. If you are saying the tweet was racial, no, can’t agree. If you are saying the outrage is entirely because of the racial, I can’t agree.
Roseanne is claiming she didn’t know VJ was Black. I didn’t. The tweet was reprehensible, and almost incomprehensible. My suspicion is that this outrageous tweet is protested because the target is a valued member of the Obama inner circle. The racial aspect is window dressing for why. Had Ms. Barr attacked a conservative, it would have been no big deal. I believe the main reason comment by Ms. Bee is collecting flak is because of the proximity to comment Ms. Barr.
“Roseanne is claiming she didn’t know VJ was Black. I didn’t.”
Same here!
I don’t believe either of you. I don’t believe it is possible for someone to have known who she was without knowing that she’s black. It’s like claiming you didn’t know 0bama is black, or that H. Clinton is female (or that Kerry served in Vietnam).
All the people who claim to have thought she was Persian, please explain how you could possibly have got that idea. Even if you’ve been living under a rock, how could such an idea have crawled in there with you? I get not knowing who she is at all. Not everyone follows politics. But knowing who she is but thinking she’s Persian? How? I notice nobody claims to have thought she was French. Why not?
I agree that Roseanne’s tweet was political, not racial. I don’t believe for a moment that Roseanne is racist. I do believe that Disney has staked out a very leftist position. The Mouse seems to be a member of the Antifa.
Although the claim of “racism” was certainly a factor, it is not necessarily a fact (one can call someone an “ape” in reference to their appearance, intelligence, and/or behavior without meaning to refer to their race), and it may have the factor that resulted in Roseanne’s “death sentence,” but I don’t believe she would have escaped unscathed without the arguably racial component. “Hate” from the right is simply not tolerated. The left can’t tolerate any form of it (indeed, they must also label as “hate” that which is merely a differing opinion), otherwise they surrender their own peculiarly positioned and privileged platform from which the delivery of hate is within the rules. To tolerate hate from the right would level the field of battle. If you’re fighting fairly, you’re not fighting to win.
Ask Sarah Palin how the media treats comics and pundits who verbally assault conservative women.
Considering that Trump has said that he would screw Ivanka if she wasn’t his daughter, I give you no traction on the suggestion that Ivanka seduce her father.
As to the other comment, do your worst. If it is determined that a straight on insult is the same as a a racial slur, then so be it. I like her show, but I won’t go into mourning.
Now what is to be done about Limbaugh. He owns his own company. So he is probably immune. But his list of insults is a mile long – some of them clearly racial.
Yeah, well except the inconvenient fact that he never said he would “screw” Ivanka. Your comment is no worse than Samantha’s.
Donald Trump never said he would screw Ivanka if she weren’t his daughter. Another stupid lie from our resident leftist asshat. Thank you for demonstrating why you got Trump.
What he did say, on The View in 2006, was that if Ivanka wasn’t his daughter he might date her. I’m sure sex is never Trump’s goal when he’s dating someone.
“might date her” is a far, far cry from “he would screw Ivanka”. You might want to equate dating with screwing but I think that is your interpretation, certainly not what Donald Trump stated. Furthermore, I don’t think your interpretation excuses the deliberate misquote by our local troll.
“might date her” is a far, far cry from “he would screw Ivanka”.
It’s not the same, but it’s a whole lot closer than a far, far cry.
“You might want to equate dating with screwing but I think that is your interpretation, certainly not what Donald Trump stated.”
And I never said that’s what Trump said. I am sorry dating apparently has had nothing to do with sex for you, though.
“Furthermore, I don’t think your interpretation excuses the deliberate misquote by our local troll.”
I don’t read troll posts, let alone respond to them, so I have no idea what it quoted. I have no intent of excusing troll posts.
Just as a reminder, Henry made a big deal of that comment at the time on LI. He essentially proclaimed Trump wanted to screw his own daughter.
“At the time” being during the run-up to the election, not in 2006.
I won’t call you a liar because that was long enough ago that you may well misremember, but what I said was that, as a father with several duaghters, I found what he said distasteful, an ugly way for a father to speak of his own daughter, and evidence of a character flaw. I never said Trump wanted to screw his daughter.
“Is it appropriate for any father to talk about his daughter this way – implying he’d pursue her sexually if she wasn’t his daughter and he weren’t married?”
https://legalinsurrection.com/2015/09/pro-carly-fiorina-ad-flips-trump-attack-into-a-message-of-empowerment/#comment-615885
Well, OK Henry, you didn’t use the word “screw”.
So, I won’t call you a liar.
“He essentially proclaimed…”
Just to note, I used the word essentially. The readers here can decide if my memory is better than the one Henry uses.
Trump can be inarticulate at times. I never took that statement to mean anything except he thought his daughter would be a a good person for someone to date. I think you guys are reading way too much into it.
Exactly, JoAnne.
Thanks Yellow for displaying the typical situational ethics of the Left: sexist insults aren’t as bad as racist insults, until the tables are turned and you will argue the reverse. Without a shred of self-awareness or shame re your hypocrisy.
You try on excuses like overcoats until you find one that fits comfortably. And when called on it, you simply don a different one and pretend you’ve always worn it. Day to day, simultaneously arguing different points as they suit your narrative.
“The Left doesn’t really believe in the things they lecture the rest of us about”
It’s OK to say nasty things about D Trump or anyone associated with him.
It’s OK to make fun of/say mean things about white people (especially old white guys)
Is everyone here new to pop culture???
I believe the correct term is “poop culture”.
Talkin’ bout…….poop culture.
poop…poop. Poop culture.
Way to keep it classy, Samantha. Whoever you are. Sorry about you losing your show. Oh, wait. That doesn’t happen to leftist drones.
Has she been fired yet? Hmmmm?
One can only hope that the new puritanism in show business comes to bite the Dems and their supporters just like the #MeToo movement has done.
Just as #MeToo is hammering countless Democrats for sexual improprieties and harassment when it was intended to be aimed at Trump, this new push to cancel offensive actor’s shows may similarly boomerang on them as the Left-leaning tend to be far more publicly offensive on the airwaves than rightward figures or in the case of Rosanne a figure who is all over the spectrum.
I meant to put a thumbs up! Sorry.
Is TBS cancelling the show the way ABC cancelled Roseanne?
The situations are hardly equivalent.
Bee’s comment was made on her show. Barr’s was not.
The concept of free speech does not require manufacturers to abandon all traces of quality control. Should Bee express her vulgarities in a Facebook post, I’d have no major objection; she has the right to be a crass jerk. However, TBS is supposed to be producing and selling a product, and customers have every right to be peeved when an employee sabotages the product with puerile tantrums.
Excellent point.
Barr’s incident would be like if I got fired over a comment I posted here at LI.
Bee’s is akin to sliming someone with C word in a company statement.
Unlike Barr’s comment in real time on Twitter, Bee’s show was pre-recorded. TBS had ample opportunity to censor the vulgar word, but failed or refused to. Wonder why?
Does she really have an audience in the studio?
Yes…there’s an audience of trained seals….
Well, if indeed her alcoholism has gotten worse under Trump, then perhaps she will eliminated herself. The worse thing you can do to a drunk is nothing. Just keep clear and let their inner self-destruction run its course.
Question: if Planet of the Apes is insensitive towards blacks, why isn’t it banned?
If I joked “Valerie Jarret is the love child of Braveheart and Hezbollah, no one would care (although that’s a head scratcher)
But Planet of the Apes is dog whistle racism? Funny, but I don’t recall any uncomfortable editorials when the 3 movies came out.
Good God, are you thick. Nothing becomes racist unless and until someone makes it so. The movie Planet Of The Apes has zero racism in it. That’s why no outcry. But, if a racist says that, I dunno, Whoopi Goldberg looks like the lovechild of Galen and Zira, the ape doctors, that will be taken as racist my many. It doesn’t make Galen, Zira, or the movie racist.
GW Bush was often depicted by the left as a chimpanzee, but when Obama became president (with arguably more prominent ears) depicting the president as an ape became off-limits? Why? Racism! But that was just a ploy to eliminate a form of mockery. If someone even vaguely resembles a chimp (like GW), then mocking him as a chimp is not necessarily racism even if the target is black. But the left claims racism because to the left “race” is always a factor, even it was not a factor in the mind of the person making the mockery. Therefore mockery of all black people is off-limits because – racism! To the left, neither the content of the comment nor the intent of the commentator matters. The only thing that matters is the color of the target’s skin.
My husband doesn’t keep up with all things politics. But he DID take a look an Google images of Valerie Jarrett.
My husband’s comment: “Well, she DOES look like a monkey.”
Is my husband a racist? Not in my experience. He’s an easy-going guy and makes friends all along the race spectrum.
My husband stated a fact about Jarrett’s face. Oh, well.
I’ve always thought that VJ looks like a burn victim.
I suspected she had black lineage, but never cared enough to find out.
But she’s still an anti-white racist and Muslim sympathizer, just like her buddy Barry. Nothing he did wasn’t approved or conceived by ValJar
The truth is that Planet of the Ape females were far better looking than VJ, and smarter.
Fire Bee … cancel the show.
As a father with a daughter the worst thing this woman said was not the vulgar name but the insult when she said “Put on a tight low cut dress and tell your father to fcuking stop it”. That implies incest and to me that is the most disgusting thing she could ever say. This woman is so far below the human level that it tells us all what has happened to Hollywood and TV land.
As the dad of two, I agree with you 100%. I wonder why nobody else is commenting on that disgusting part of her gross and vulgar comments.
Does this also mean TBS won’t be promoting the television academy’s recognizing samantha bee for advancing social change? Such a shame. tsk, tsk. And she was doing so well up to now…..:rolleyes:
On May 31, @FullFrontalSamB will be recognized for advancing social change by @TelevisionAcad at its #TVAcadHonors celebration. https://t.co/2vCmlQ7wFl pic.twitter.com/YtQesf3uak
— TBS Network (@TBSNetwork) May 30, 2018
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James Woods
Verified account @RealJamesWoods
This never gets old…
https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1002266536956968961/photo/1
A Hollywood liberal feminist arguing for normalizing the debasement of women. All in the name of being able to condemn a woman they perceive as conservative. And we wonder how Weinstein survived for so long in that world. https://t.co/N8xuFYTYSr
— Tammy Bruce (@HeyTammyBruce) May 31, 2018
Once you lose your integrity, the rest is simple. JR Ewing
“UPDATE: Samantha has apologized”
Roseanne apologized too. Is an apology even relevant as anything other than a social necessity in situations like this? Will Bee’s apology be accepted? Will it make a difference? Should it?
I am old. I am definitely old. Bob Hope was funny. What’s funny about Samantha Bee? And this has nothing to do with women v. men being funny. I can’t think of a a male comic I found funny in the past 20 years.
Really, I’d like to talk to her. I was a Sailor for 20 years and I never swore like her. Oh, I swore. If it was good enough for George Washington it’s good enough for me.
Washington, crossing the Delaware.
“Shift your fat @$$, Henry, you’re going to swamp the *od****** boat.”
But I never swore all the time. And if I did swear, like Washington it was to drive a point home. Does anyone think I could have survived the truck ride from White Beach to Kadena with an entire SEAL platoon trying to gross me out if I couldn’t manage a cuss word or hundred?
Point being, and yes there is a point and if you’ve lost it that may explain why I only lasted 20 years as a Naval intel officer, what kind of hate lies behind her language? I’d really like to know. I never used curse words to express hate. In fact, I never consciously hated. I don’t say that to make myself look better than other people. Lord knows I have plenty of faults. I would feel the hate building and then I had to ask, “Is this how Jesus would want me to behave?”
If I dislike what you are doing, if I believe you are committing a foul, you’ll know it involving no swear words. Just proper English. And I want to know Samantha Bee’s thinking. Or if she thought about it.
https://www.history.org/Almanack/life/manners/rules2.cfm
Colonial manners, as transmitted by George Washington.
Father objectifies daughter on radio broadcast starring Howard Stern and Donald Trump in 2006.