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Pro-Carly Fiorina Ad Flips Trump Attack Into a Message of Empowerment

Pro-Carly Fiorina Ad Flips Trump Attack Into a Message of Empowerment

“Look at this face.”

Ah, presidential election cycles. Nary does one pass without first unleashing drama, betrayal, scandal, and intrigue into the political arena.

A Rolling Stone article published last Wednesday quoted a not-so-kind Donald Trump. Chronicling the campaign life of the mega-millionaire, the article captured what were reportedly disparaging remarks about fellow presidential contender, Carly Fiorina:

When the anchor throws to Carly Fiorina for her reaction to Trump’s momentum, Trump’s expression sours in schoolboy disgust as the camera bores in on Fiorina. “Look at that face!” he cries. “Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president?!” The laughter grows halting and faint behind him. “I mean, she’s a woman, and I’m not s’posedta say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?”

When the article went live, Cable News seized the opportunity to capitalize on a candidate cat fight, and “look at that face!” then found its way to the far corners of the internet.

Wednesday evening, Fox News’ Megyn Kelly asked Fiorina what she thought Trump meant when he said, “look at that face!” To which Fiorina responded, “You know, honestly Megyn, I’m not gonna spend a whole cycle wondering what Donald Trump means. But maybe, just maybe, I’m getting under his skin a little bit, because I am climbing in the polls.”

With the dumpster fire ablaze, Trump told Fox New’s Greta Van Susteren Thursday that he was an entertainer.

“Many of those comments are made as an entertainer because I did The Apprentice and it was one of the top shows on television,” he said. “Some comments are made as an entertainer and as everybody said, as an entertainer is a much different ball game.”

Which bring us to today.

CARLY for America, a pro-Fiorina SuperPAC, released an ad called Faces.

“Look at all of your faces. The face of leadership. The face of leadership in our party, the party of women’s suffrage. The face of leadership in your communities, in your businesses, in your places of work and worship. Ladies, note to Democratic Party, we are not a special interest group, we are the majority of the nation.

This is the face of a 61-year-old-woman. I am proud of every year and every wrinkle.”

Rather than giving him any direct airtime, the ad simply takes Trump’s quotes and turns them into a positive message of empowerment.

Faces is multifunctional. Trump aside, the ad’s message runs contra to that most beloved fairy tale of modern Democratic women — the story of a War on Women. In the fictitious War on Women, women are subjugated, weak, and perpetual victims deserving of a government mandated hand-out.

But strong, independent, hard-working women? They fare just fine on their own.

And so, what began as a pot shot, resulted in a positive, narrative-busting ad.

More of this, please.

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This kind of thing is, I think, why Trump will eventually chase off most of his support.

    Radegunda in reply to Immolate. | September 14, 2015 at 6:33 pm

    I hope so, but Trump fans tend to find excuses for pretty much anything — “He says what he thinks! He’s standing up to the PC police! He’s a man’s man! We need a leader! He’s not a politician! You don’t get it! RINO! No Jeb!”

Now if she would just say Trump is right and she will build wall and will deport illegals and will enforce our laws and her numbers will climb if not she is likely toast after next debate. Just one more 5 percenters.

Jim Hoft at The Gateway Pundit also posted this video, and oh, my, the negative, spiteful comments about Fiorina!… Somebody even limbered up the old RINO insult. Odd, lately there’s a lot of h8ing going on against every actual Republican in the race.

I think we are seeing the latest iteration of Acorn-Coffee Party-OWS-#BlackLivesMatter “grassroots” “activism.” I think those people want a Democrat to be elected.

    Radegunda in reply to Valerie. | September 14, 2015 at 6:41 pm

    Jim Hoft has gone off the rails in his Trump-worship. When Trump’s crude, chauvinistic insult came to light, Hoft posted it under a title essentially like this: “Fiorina is in the news now, thanks to Trump!”

    Hoft isn’t someone I ever went to for insightful commentary, but I used to check in for any interesting news items. When the site came to be dominated by crowing about Donald the Great sticking it to his enemies, I stopped going there at all.

      stevewhitemd in reply to Radegunda. | September 14, 2015 at 8:35 pm

      I quit going there after reaching the comments. It’s been a while but a number of the commenters (not all, naturally) are pretty rude, bigoted folk that I personally wouldn’t want to be around. They’re Americans and they have the right to think and write as they wish, but I didn’t want to be guilty by association.

      I haven’t met Jim, and he may be a delightful guy in person. But a website is, in part, known by its commenters whether the owner likes it or not. I quit going there.

Liberal Chris Cillizza gushes over this very ad in the liberal Washington Post, calling it “the best one of the 2016 campaign so far”.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/09/14/this-ad-for-carly-fiorina-is-the-best-of-the-2016-campaign-so-far/

Interesting to see the politically correct liberals lining up behind the Trumpo-Phobe banner! As Cilliza puts it, “She is now the anti-Trump…”

Squee!

    Ragspierre in reply to DaMav. | September 14, 2015 at 5:52 pm

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/09/08/why-some-liberals-have-started-to-love-donald-trump/

    Cilliza liked an ad.

    Collectivists like Trump’s policies. Well. The ones they can identify among the moving targets…

      I understand. You and Chris Cilliza want Trump to lose.

        Ragspierre in reply to DaMav. | September 14, 2015 at 6:34 pm

        I can’t think of anything you’ve “understood”.

        I don’t want another mystery-meat narcissist anywhere NEAR the White House, especially one so clearly a fan of BIG GOVERNMENT as T-rump.

        Other than that, I love the guy…

          jayjerome66 in reply to Ragspierre. | September 14, 2015 at 7:13 pm

          If you shorten your opening sentence to “I can’t think of anything…” You’ll finally have made an accurate statement.

          Stop knocking Trump.
          Go back to swinging at Hillary – am old wrinkled broad who can’t move too fast is more your speed.

          stevewhitemd in reply to Ragspierre. | September 14, 2015 at 8:39 pm

          For once we’re in agreement.

          Last time we elected a president with a thin resume and thin experience, with a brittle personality and an unwillingness to tell us HOW he was going to do what he was going to do, we got Obama.

          And Obama has been everything I’ve feared and disliked.

          There’s something to be said for having someone with extensive experience (it’s the one fair knock on Ms. Fiorina). Whatever you think of their policies and ideas, more experienced candidates like Perry, Walker, and even Jebbers are comfortable — you know what you’re getting. Cruz, Fiorina, Rubio and Trump? You don’t and won’t know for sure unless and until they’re elected.

          I’m not saying that Cruz, Fiorina, Rubio and Trump can’t rise up and do the job. It’s just that right now, they have to prove that, and thanks to Obama (worst president since Buchanan), the bar has been raised.

        As long as Trump is only cajdidate promising to build the wall, deport illegals, enforce our laws and to make America Great Again he is going to have the strong support of 40 percent of GOP as his base.

        Rags, I think you may have to resign yourself to spending the next 4 to 8 years hollaring at your TV “but he isn’t a real conservative”.

          Ragspierre in reply to garybritt. | September 15, 2015 at 10:30 am

          Well, no. I won’t. I’ll still be saying the same things I’m saying now, except with a “TOLDJA” attached.

          And I’ll be in good company, including that of Dr. Sowell, who IS a conservative thinker.

          “In a country with more than 300 million people, it is remarkable how obsessed the media have become with just one — Donald Trump. What is even more remarkable is that, after six years of repeated disasters, both domestically and internationally, under a glib egomaniac in the White House, so many potential voters are turning to another glib egomaniac to be his successor.”

          T-rump is a BIG GOVERNMENT guy. If America makes the mistake of putting him in the oval office, it may be our last one.

          Rags: Obama is an egomaniac based on delusions of grandeur with no skills or accomplishments in managing or running anything of value. No experience in building a business, meeting payrolls and creating wealth.

          Mr. Trump on the other hand is an egomaniac based on a lifetime of mega million accomplishments in building a successful group of enterprises, meeting payrolls and creating wealth for himself, family, and others.

          They are not the same, but you are trying to treat them as the same thing. Other differences are too evident to mention all of them in regards to policies.

          Finally, an egomaniac who has earned his belief in his abilities who also says he will build the wall, deport illegals, and enforce our laws is infinitely better than all the other GOP contenders who just tell us it can’t be done or worse it shouldn’t be done.

          Ragspierre in reply to garybritt. | September 15, 2015 at 3:10 pm

          If you’re a fool. I guess.

          Remember, fool: you can rationalize anything.

          Carry on.

          OK Rags I accept your concession that I am correct since you have reverted to mere name calling.

          Ragspierre in reply to garybritt. | September 15, 2015 at 6:21 pm

          No. I observed you are a fool.

          And, as you’ve shown, you can rationalize anything.

          Now you’ve demonstrated you can fantasize anything.

          Congratulations!

          “Remember, fool”

          When Rags calls you a name it’s an observation.

    Radegunda in reply to DaMav. | September 14, 2015 at 7:01 pm

    Once again, Trump-bots (like Trump himself) confuse old-fashioned manners with political correctness.

    Ridiculing people over their faces is no less uncivilized than ridiculing people because of their race, or because they were born, say, with no arms. Decent people just don’t do it. And ridiculing women as “ugly” doesn’t make someone a real man; it makes him a juvenile boor (or it makes her a catty rhymes-with-witch).

    Meanwhile, Trump-bots are quick to explain away their big anti-PC hero’s statement that we should all be censoring ourselves to avoid offending Muslims.

    The biggest liberty issue of our time is whether we have a right to live free from the stifling demands of Islamic law. Trump came down on the wrong side.

      “Trump-bots are quick to explain away their big anti-PC hero’s statement that we should all be censoring ourselves to avoid offending Muslims.”

      I missed that particular Trump statement. I searched awhile for it just now but did not find it. Can you give me a link?
      Thanks.

I don’t think this will work for her. She’s trying too hard. Trump made an offhand remark that she has a sour puss, which she kind of does. That’s it. She’s turning it into a feminist statement borrowing the empowerment flummery of the Left, which people on the Right are generally tired of. We’ll see, but it feels strained and self-righteous. Everyone over-reacts to Trump, and this is just another example.

    Radegunda in reply to pesanteur. | September 14, 2015 at 7:11 pm

    It wasn’t an off-hand statement about sourness. It was (yet another) revelation of Trump’s shallow view of women, and his lack of manners.

    Manners and decency are not the same as political correctness. Seeing women as full human beings, rather than through the eyes of a Miss Universe judge (or sponsor), is not some silly thing that only a leftist would do (though a shocking number of self-styled conservative men seem to believe so).

    You don’t win many female voters by suggesting that a woman’s face — unlike a man’s — is a crucial qualification for political office.

      pesanteur in reply to Radegunda. | September 14, 2015 at 7:56 pm

      Yes it was absolutely off-hand.

      Anyway, the Presidency has little to do with such notions of manners. The rules, manners and pedigree paradigm is dying as we speak. You can thank Obama perhaps, or the savage infantile Left, or the dishonest cutthroat media or the absurdly well-mannered loser Romney. It all adds up to having our teeth kicked in. People are tired of it (perhaps all but the blue-haired set still pining for that decent and upstanding Romney who was so polite to Obama).

      This is not to say bad behavior should be excused. But if the price of honesty and commitment to audacious action on, for example, illegal immigration is a little off-color or rough-edged humor or even occasional chauvinistic boorishness, most don’t care anymore. Nor should they.

      Also, that Trump doesn’t see women as “full human beings” is a ridiculous extrapolation and slur.

        Ragspierre in reply to pesanteur. | September 14, 2015 at 8:29 pm

        Huh.

        Let’s see you explain/apologize away his lechering after his own daughter in the same interview.

        “Off-hand” is simply another way of saying “unguarded” or “candid”.

        CloseTheFed in reply to pesanteur. | September 14, 2015 at 8:56 pm

        Yes, getting rid of illegal aliens and reducing legal immigration is worth the price of admission with Trump.

        BTW, all those folks claiming not to know what Trump advocates: Would you please read his 2011 book “Time to Get Tough.”

As a cancer survivor her health is a legitimate subject of inquiry. Many patients are OK for some time, but then ‘late effects’ return. One factor that can cause renewed symptoms is stress – a given in presidential politics and governing.

Carley didn’t look good in the last video of her posted on this site – though the photoshopped photo above the video made her look ‘brighter.’ Under the makeup in the video she didn’t look healthy.

If Biden’s robustness is fair game, so is Fiorina’s health. If asked will she submit to an Independant physical before continuing to campaign? I bet The Donald will pay for it.

Wow. People still don’t get it.

One doesn’t have to think that Trump is a good choice for President to recognize his mastery of his own school of political dancing.

Trump’s popularity is based on two distinct factors.

First is obviously policy. He’s the one who’s saying the obvious—that if the United States can’t solve a conceptually simple problem like the immigration crime wave, we don’t need to worry about any of the other problems because we’re toast. Some voters see a virtue in his willingness to attack the big problems and essentially ignore the little ones—a direct and simple strategy, but one which worked for Alexander the Great against Darius III, and it can work today.

But the second factor is—well, call it irascability. He says what we’ve been waiting for a politician to say for decades. It’s just talk, and not vitally important in itself. But Trump doesn’t deflate and slink off at the first whiff of criticism. The PC Left has no power over him; their usual crap is just water off a duck’s back. We see the same thing here. Trump is just saying what anyone with functional sense organs has thought—Fiorina looks weird. As in, Metropolis-robot-magnitude weird. Is it the Botox? We’re certainly not seeing “every wrinkle”, no matter how proud she claims to be of the lil’ devils. So, she’s lying….not good for someone whose political schtick so far has been criticizing Hillary for, well, lying. Of course in Trump’s place I wouldn’t have said any such thing. But in his place, I wouldn’t have his poll numbers either.

Trump is still playing a level of politics the press, the pundits, and the other candidates simply don’t understand. They don’t even recognize it as politics; hence the common casual dismissals of Trump as some sort of clown. When your opponents don’t even realize that they’re taking hits, well, that’s mighty fine boxing. Here, Trump is firing distractions. And on cue, Fiorina’s chasing them, like a dog who doesn’t realize that the rustling in the bushes isn’t a rabbit, it’s just a stick somebody threw to get it excited.

Trump’s ability to dominate both the press (which always acts like it’s awfully dumb) and the other candidates (some of whom are not at all dumb) is remarkable.

    jayjerome66 in reply to tom swift. | September 14, 2015 at 7:18 pm

    Yeah, you nailed it!
    Your comment deserves column space in a prominent paper or blog.

    Radegunda in reply to tom swift. | September 14, 2015 at 7:25 pm

    We “get it” perfectly well. We just happen to notice how unthoughtful the Trump-bots are, and how ready to excuse anything unsavory that he does or says.

    Trump looks weird. His yellow hair is silly, and he looks rather artificial for a man his age. His physique is much worse than Fiorina’s. Why is all that not disqualifying in the same way that Trump thinks a woman should not be president if he doesn’t find her face attractive?

    You trash Fiorina for her possible use of Botox. If she hadn’t had some kind of intervention on her face, you’d probably be trashing her as an old prune. Either way, women aren’t forgiven for living too long.

    And it’s funny that you would accuse Fiorina of “lying” about the issue, since you don’t mind that Trump was obviously lying when he tried to explain away his crude comment by claiming he was talking about an abstract “persona” — though he was clearly referring to visuals.

      When I had my yellow lab neutered I wondered what the vet did with the nutsack. Now when I look at that thing on Trump’s head I think I finally figured out where it went. Talk about “weird” looking. Trump projects just as hard as any progressive… oh wait….

    mochajava76 in reply to tom swift. | September 14, 2015 at 7:41 pm

    Yeah, you may be right. She looks weird. So let’s not vote for her.
    What are you, nuts!!!??? This guy is off his rocker! He is salivating at performing his schtick in the WH, saying “You’re Fired” to someone on his staff. Speaking one’s mind when no one will confront an issue can be energizing. Not having a filter between his mind and his mouth is NOT an asset.
    “He says what we’ve been waiting for a politician to say for decades”. Maybe about immigration, but the other half of this is pure Jerry Springer. I want a President who doesn’t make me cringe.
    And besides, you think SHE looks weird, but you ignore the 9 foot comb-over???!!
    Good thing Abe Lincoln is not running today. I don’t think he would stand a chance.

    I bet most of the Trump-bots also make fun of Putin riding bare chested on a horse, saying he’s an id, id, id . . . Blondie, what’s that word?

      MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to mochajava76. | September 15, 2015 at 12:20 am

      Good thing Abe Lincoln is not running today. I don’t think he would stand a chance.

      Considering that Lincoln grew a beard to get elected…

To give her credit, Fiorina herself is not even whining and dancing the Butt-Hurt Polka as much as some of the Trumpophobes are over this kerfuffle. Most women are an lot tougher and smarter than to base a vote for President on what some guy said about someone’s appearance.

A little perspective, based on the oft told story of Winston Churchill’s encounter with Bessie Braddock, a British politician

Braddock encountered an intoxicated Churchill and said “Sir, you are drunk.” He replied:

“And you, Bessie, are ugly. But I shall be sober in the morning, and you will still be ugly.”

    Ragspierre in reply to DaMav. | September 14, 2015 at 8:24 pm

    Not according to his family. Churchill was, if nothing else, capable of his own, original material. He was also a gentleman.

    Churchill quotation expert Richard Langworth was told that the exchange with Braddock did occur in 1946 by a bodyguard who claimed that he was present. Family members are unconvinced. The vignette is included in “Churchill by Himself: The Definitive Collection of Quotations” [CHDQ]:

    Bessie Braddock: Winston, you are drunk, and what’s more you are disgustingly drunk.

    Winston Churchill: Bessie, my dear, you are ugly, and what’s more, you are disgustingly ugly. But tomorrow I shall be sober and you will still be disgustingly ugly.

    In conclusion, this popular story has been told in various permutations for more than a century. QI believes that most of the retellings are fictional even the versions that purport to be non-fiction. If Churchill did deliver the famous rejoinder he was likely influenced by the long series of previous jokes involving members of the House of Commons.
    http://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/08/17/sober-tomorrow/

I’m leaning Trump – especially because he’s anti establishment. I found this book of his from 2011 which is pretty good – spells out his policies and position. I like his immigration policy but was looking for more – – –

if interested: http://www.amazon.com/Time-Get-Tough-America-Great-ebook/dp/B006E4DZ4O/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1442281266&sr=1-1&keywords=trump

MouseTheLuckyDog | September 14, 2015 at 11:37 pm

Look at this face!

It is the face of the worst CEO in history!

MouseTheLuckyDog | September 15, 2015 at 12:06 am

Wait stop the presses, I’m sorry. I thought that Fiorina did such bad job It turns out that her failure was due to sexism in the tech industry http://thehill.com/policy/finance/240593-fiorina-defends-rocky-tenure-as-ceo-of-hewlett-packard .

Still it doesn’t explain her problems at Lucent. All us exLucenters love to joke about the pathetic quarterly AA meetings we had to attend. No sexism there.

PS Is Valerie going to tell us about her wonderful printer-without-a-model-name?

    Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | September 15, 2015 at 10:24 am

    Note at the close of the interview, T-rump gives us his idea of government reform.

    Better “brights”.

    Exactly what you expect from a BIG GOVERNMENT Collectivist.

Good lord not the gender card.

Trump doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Fiorina’s a babe.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/trump-rocks-packed-dallas-arena-gets-texas-crowd-to-booo-media-video/

Jim Hoft is all moist.

In other BREAKING news, fish in barrels make easy targets.

How odd it is that both liberal and conservative news agencies, blogs, etc., are all citing the quote from the Paul Solotaroff interview wherein Trump implies Fiorina is too ugly to be electable, but are totally ignoring a far worse quote.

From the same interview as this childish dig at a competitor’s physical appearance (which was also a lie because no objective observer of Fiorina would think she’s ugly) there was another, far more revealing quote:

“After I [interviewer Solotaroff] met Ivanka [daughter of Trump] and praised her to her father, he said, “Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father . . . ”

I had asked for any LI Trump supporters, especially females, to address this quote, defend it, denounce it, whatever, and there were zero responses. So, I’ll ask again.

Would a Trump supporter deign to address this quote? Is it appropriate for any father to talk about his daughter this way – implying he’d pursue her sexually if she wasn’t his daughter and he weren’t married? Are Trump supporters unbothered by this, for itself, but also for what it reveals about Trump’s character and judgement? Do Trump supporters simply accept this? Women Trump supporters, you OK with this?

Trump disgusts me.

————————————

Disclaimer: I have four daughters.

Disclaimer Cubed: It shouldn’t matter whether one has daughters to be disgusted by this.

    Ragspierre in reply to Henry Hawkins. | September 15, 2015 at 11:14 am

    Me, yesterday…

    Huh.

    Let’s see you explain/apologize away his lechering after his own daughter in the same interview.

    “Off-hand” is simply another way of saying “unguarded” or “candid”.
    ___________________________________________

    Strangely, I got no takers…

      Henry Hawkins in reply to Ragspierre. | September 15, 2015 at 11:22 am

      Well, if Trump supporters simply accept this, finding no fault or glossing over it, I will have confirmed something for myself about Trump’s current success.

      jayjerome66 in reply to Ragspierre. | September 15, 2015 at 3:12 pm

      First off, ‘lechering’ is the wrong form of the verb to use in your sentence. The right form to use when someone is perving on someone else is leching.

      Maybe it’s God’s plan for Donald to ‘join’ with his two daughters. Like Lot in the bible. God also used that ploy with the Patriarchs of Israel to form new Tribes for his Chosen People. Could it be he’s chosen Trump for that purpose? Doesn’t Trumps improbable success so far indicate advance Divine Intervention?

      And Christian writers of the New Testament like Luke and Simon Peter praise Lot as a righteous man — even after impregnating his daughters. So why so much outrage for Trump simply for making a stupid joke about it? Especially in this day and age when fathers and daughters openly talk and joke about their sexuality on TV and film. Or are you living in a conservative crypt of isolation from the world we live in now?

      The question to answer is not what Trump thinks about his daughter’s ass — it’s will he kick ass at the border and kick ass with the Chinese and other nations that are kicking our ass economically.

      Yeah I agree he’s a flawed individual in many ways; but those flaws might help him accomplish or at least make progress in ways the other cookie-cutter conservatives will not.

      And that’s the TROOOTH!

        Ragspierre in reply to jayjerome66. | September 15, 2015 at 4:46 pm

        No, stupid, “lechering” is the ONLY verb form derived from “lecher”.

        Figures you would apologize for the perversions…or “perving”…of T-rump, since you think Bernie Sanders is “reasonable”.

        Disgusting.

          jayjerome66 in reply to Ragspierre. | September 15, 2015 at 5:44 pm

          There ya go again, putting your foot in your mouth –

          ING FORMS OF VERB LECH
          http://www.verbix.com/webverbix/English/lech.html

          Indicative
          Present
          I am leching
          you are leching
          he is leching
          we are leching
          you are leching
          they are leching
          Perfect
          I have been leching
          you have been leching
          he has been leching
          we have been leching
          you have been leching
          they have been leching

          Past
          I was leching
          you were leching
          he was leching
          we were leching
          you were leching
          they were leching

          Pluperfect
          I had been leching
          you had been leching
          he had been leching
          we had been leching
          you had been leching
          they had been leching

          Future
          I will be leching
          you will be leching
          he will be leching
          we will be leching
          you will be leching
          they will be leching

          Future perfect
          I will have been leching
          you will have been leching
          he will have been leching
          we will have been leching
          you will have been leching
          they will have been leching
          Conditional
          Present
          I would be leching
          you would be leching
          he would be leching
          we would be leching
          you would be leching
          they would be leching
          Perfect
          I would have been leching
          you would have been leching
          he would have been leching
          we would have been leching
          you would have been leching
          they would have been leching
          Verbs conjugated like lech

          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | September 15, 2015 at 6:09 pm

          https://www.bing.com/search?q=leching&qs=n&form=QBRE&pq=leching&sc=8-7&sp=-1&sk=&cvid=E67E5E9EF2E84195B8FA7FC5C08AED07

          Odd. You won’t find it in any dictionaries.

          But you won’t find approval of lechering after your daughter in among normal people, either.

          Pervert.

        MouseTheLuckyDog in reply to jayjerome66. | September 15, 2015 at 6:44 pm

        Maybe it’s God’s plan for Donald to ‘join’ with his two daughters. Like Lot in the bible

        Actually it more like Lot being raped by his daughters.

        His daughters wanted to become pregnant and so they got him drunk and tricked him into sleeping with them while he was drunk.

    That was a seriously skin-crawlingly skeevy thing to say, skeevier even than anything Skeevy Uncle Joe has said or done. And that’s saying something.

    Trump fanatics are carefully side-stepping around it as one would a fresh steaming pile of dog you-know-what on the sidewalk, but surely even they get that if he becomes the GOP nominee, this and all his other noisome effusions are going to be pounced on by the leftstream media and smeared all over the TV, newspaper and blogworld landscape?

    “Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father . . . ”

    Seriously. Imagine if Joe Biden had said that. Or Obama had, about one of his daughters?

    Just because the leftstream media is letting it pass for now doesn’t mean they haven’t added it to their arsenal should he get the nomination.

      Henry Hawkins in reply to Amy in FL. | September 15, 2015 at 2:55 pm

      And it’s still crickets from LI Trump supporters. It’ll sound snarky of me to say it, but the fact is I couldn’t defend this either. Trump said this not to his valet or chauffeur, but to a Rolling Stone contributor… during an on-the-record interview… that was recorded… and he admitted saying it… and saw no reason to apologize for it, not even to his daughter. Imagine what he says – and believes – in private. Remember the Romney 47% eavesdrop? Trump will provide these soundbites to Dems in spades. He already is.

      Judgement: poor.
      Character: poor.

      The man has no discretion, and I stand by my prediction his mouth will cause his political self-immolation. It’s just a matter of time. I predict that Trump will break a lot of hearts, either as a failed, self-destructing candidate, or as an elected president found to have lied about his politics and policies just as badly and baldfacedly as did the GOP leadership of 2014 causing traditional GOP supporters over to Trump.

      Do Trump supporters understand that his written position on illegal immigration is far different than his tough-talking campaign trail words? Do they know what the ‘touchback plan’ is, or that it was originally written up by Democrats and introduced as legislation by Democrats? It failed then, too.

      Are cheap words enough for Trump supporters? The man’s been talking shit for 30 years – we’ve all suffered it on cable TV, both news and entertainment. He’s gonna destroy this, fix that, change the other – but he hasn’t so much as ten minutes in office – he’s never run for anything. Zero record.

      Hey, if I say the words, “I could whup Chuck Norris’ ass!” does that mean I can now whup his ass? Or will y’all have to elect me first to find out how tough I really am? Gee, that formula rings a bell…

      Trump is saying he’s gonna whup far more and far tougher adversaries than Chuck Norris – and Trump has no record of ever having been in the ring, let alone having shown any skills or toughness. Zero. Zip. Nada.

      It’s like America has a plumbing problem and has called in an electrician to fix it. Doesn’t mean he isn’t a good electrician, but we have a plumbing problem.

JimMtnViewCaUSA | September 15, 2015 at 11:32 am

I am not a Trump backer.
And we went through a similar event when Arnold won the governorship. We could have tried to elect the wonderful Tom McClintock but no, we went with the movie star and he killed off the Repub Party in CA.
But I won’t say a word against Trump or so-called “Trump-bots” until Repubs stand up and fight against illegal immigration and ObamaCare. Not to mention nukes for Iran, the lib media and growth of government.

Don’t like Trump? Get off your rump.
I don’t plan to help Repub surrender monkeys in any way, shape or form.

JimMtnViewCaUSA | September 15, 2015 at 11:34 am

p.s. I like Carly.
But she’s DOA as a nominee. Dem media will say “Heartless executive. Laid off people.”
Boom.
Done.

She’d make a great Cabinet member.

http://twitchy.com/2015/09/14/dana-loesch-waiting-for-donald-trump-to-use-massive-television-audience-to-unveil-a-policy/

A bunch of conservatives at T-rump’s Dallas rally (attendance roughly that of a middling Sanders event) unimpressed by 75 minutes of T-rump singing…

“How Great I Art”.

Woooooowzah.

    jayjerome66 in reply to Ragspierre. | September 15, 2015 at 2:04 pm

    “A bunch of conservatives at T-rump’s Dallas rally (attendance roughly that of a middling Sanders event)”

    Deceiver by omission and commission.

    Sanders and Trump are averaging close to the same size crowds. On the high side in the 20,000 to 30,000 range.

    Meanwhile your favored candidates are lagging FAR behind. Including Cruz, whose rallies ‘overflow’ with supporters because they’re held in venues sized to accommodate ballroom dance competitions. The only decent sized crowd he spoke to was at Liberty University, the arch-conservative Evangelical Christian school founded by Jerry Falwell and now run by his son — where attendance by students for his appearance was mandatory. 11,000 students showed up. Yesterday Bernie Sanders spoke there to 12,000 — attendance also mandatory.

    The event was broadcast live on CNN. I watched about a half hour of it, the first time I’ve heard Sanders speak unedited. He has some goofy ideas I don’t agree with (but others do have merit). He comes across as a straightforward Populist, who is not bs-ing the issues. The Christian Science Monitor reviewed the event: their impressions and observations seem reasonable:

    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2015/0914/Why-Bernie-Sanders-spoke-at-conservative-Liberty-University-video

    You, however, Twitch-Pierre, are not reasonable. Your brand of narrow partisan politics is as bad for America as your radical counterpoints on the Left. The mean-spirited narrow-mindedness of opinion from both extremes is divisive, exclusive, and perpetuates truculence in the national debate. Screw you both.

      Ragspierre in reply to jayjerome66. | September 15, 2015 at 2:14 pm

      Wow. I’m being called a conservative by Moby Troll.

      How to feel about that…???

      Conservatives are NOT “mean spirited”. We love people. We want them to be happy and free. We respect them so much, we think them capable of self-government without being bossed by “brights”. In fact, we insist on that right.

      Poor, stupid, bigoted liar… Do you really think that your Moby Troll act is working here?

      Ragspierre in reply to jayjerome66. | September 15, 2015 at 4:38 pm

      Yoh, Moby Troll…

      There’s a thread open for you to defend Planned Abortionhood as TOTS innocent some more.

      Maybe you can peddle your “Bernie is reasonable” bullshit over there, too.

      It’ll be a laugh riot…!!!

So, Trump was referring to putting a face [of diversity] on the Republican campaign. It is antithetical to the American cause that we vote for blackface, woman-face, etc. Either Republicans are the American right or they are Democrat-lite.

Not A Member of Any Organized Political | September 15, 2015 at 2:40 pm

FYI

Wall Street’s latest panic: Trump could win

With Bush and Clinton taking their lumps, financial executives face populist critics in both parties.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/donald-trump-2016-wall-street-reaction-213614#ixzz3lplJUQ4A

Poor, stupid T-rump fan boi…

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/washington-elites-launch-attack-ads-against-donald-trump-donald-trump-responds/

I do not think that word means what he thinks it means.

You can’t have a small government, free market “elite”.

Interesting ad from Carly; she shows closeups of lots of faces. Somehow her own face doesn’t get a closeup. Huh.

Also thought it was interesting that as the ad speaks of “leadership,” the face being shown looks like that of a 10yo girl. Leadership in grammar school?

Just observations; now let the 2 minute hate begin! 😉

    Ragspierre in reply to Eskyman. | September 15, 2015 at 4:57 pm

    “Leadership in grammar school?”

    You mean ONE face in dozens?

    But, yeah. Leadership is one of those things that the Boy Scouts has always taught in grammar school-aged boys.

    This is news to you…???

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