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Mueller Impanels Grand Jury in Russia Investigation

Mueller Impanels Grand Jury in Russia Investigation

Grand jury subpoenas also supposedly sent out connected to Trump, Jr., meeting with Russian lawyer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IcZF_ieHa4

Special Counsel Robert Mueller has launched a grand jury in Washington, D.C., for his investigation into alleged Russian influence into our presidential election. The Wall Street Journal reported:

The grand jury, which began its work in recent weeks, is a sign that Mr. Mueller’s inquiry is ramping up and that it will likely continue for months. Mr. Mueller is investigating Russia’s efforts to influence the 2016 election and whether President Donald Trump’s campaign or associates colluded with the Kremlin as part of that effort.

A spokesman for Mr. Mueller, Joshua Stueve, declined to comment. Moscow has denied seeking to influence the election, and Mr. Trump has vigorously disputed allegations of collusion. The president has called Mr. Mueller’s inquiry a “witch hunt.”

Federal prosecutors had been using a grand jury in Alexandria, VA, before Mueller came into the job in May “to assist in their criminal investigation of Michael Flynn, a former national security adviser.”

The grand jury in D.C. will be more convenient for Mueller and his team since it’ll be located “just a few blocks from the U.S. federal courthouse where grand juries meet.”

Ty Cobb, the special counsel to President Donald Trump, said the White House did not know about a new grand jury:

“Grand jury matters are typically secret,” Mr. Cobb said. “The White House favors anything that accelerates the conclusion of his work fairly.…The White House is committed to fully cooperating with Mr. Mueller.”

Some experts have said this is a sign that the investigation has amped up:

“This is yet a further sign that there is a long-term, large-scale series of prosecutions being contemplated and being pursued by the special counsel,” said Stephen I. Vladeck, a law professor at the University of Texas. “If there was already a grand jury in Alexandria looking at Flynn, there would be no need to reinvent the wheel for the same guy. This suggests that the investigation is bigger and wider than Flynn, perhaps substantially so.”

Thomas Zeno, a federal prosecutor for 29 years before becoming a lawyer at the Squire Patton Boggs law firm, said the grand jury is “confirmation that this is a very vigorous investigation going on.”

“This doesn’t mean he is going to bring charges,” Mr. Zeno cautioned. “But it shows he is very serious. He wouldn’t do this if it were winding down.”

Subpoenas Over Russia Meeting?

As WSJ broke the Mueller new, Reuters reported that grand jury subpoenas supposedly connected to the June 2016 meeting between Donald Trump, Jr., a Russian lawyer, and other people.

Trump, Jr., allegedly met with Russian lawyer Natalia Vaselnitskaya and at least three others last year. She allegedly said that the Russians were behind Trump and had information that could have helped his campaign.

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Comments

practicalconservative | August 3, 2017 at 7:04 pm

Minnow Meuller will cast that fishing line until he gets a nibble.

So it is illegal to meet with foreigners now?

Scooter Libby redux?

    Humphrey's Executor in reply to MSO. | August 3, 2017 at 7:58 pm

    Hope not. Total miscarriage of justice.

      Worse. Judith Miller, whose testimony was used to convict him, later learned she was entirely wrong in the manner in which she had interpreted her old notebook and Libby was innocent. And the Special Counsel knew it the whole time and did not refresh her memory of the context of her notes so he could get a scalp. Fitzgerald was corrupt to his very core. SA Democratic plant just like Mueller. Rewarded by a Wall Street banker’s law firm, just like Mueller and Comey. These people are on the take.

    Ghostrider in reply to MSO. | August 3, 2017 at 10:33 pm

    Except, this time the Democrats want to take out Trump’s first born, son. This may lead to a civil war.

      Jackie in reply to Ghostrider. | August 4, 2017 at 5:29 am

      Fortunately Trump can pardon everyone connected with this witch hunt. They will find something or just make something up. Since collusion is not a crime you can’t legally have a grand jury investigating it. There’s a real sickness in the Republican Party. The leadership knows what’s going on and instead of defending Trump you hear nothing.

Fire this a-hole immediately. And concurrently hire special counsel to investigate clinton, obama, lynch, holder, lois lerner and the IRS.

Don’t, and we’re toast.

    DieJustAsHappy in reply to TheFineReport.com. | August 3, 2017 at 7:57 pm

    There’s an early legislative movement a-foot to see this doesn’t happen. Quote:

    Republican Sen. Thom Tillis of North Carolina and Democratic Sen. Chris Coons of Delaware plan to introduce the legislation Thursday. The bill would allow any special counsel for the Department of Justice to challenge his or her removal in court, with a review by a three-judge panel within 14 days of the challenge.

    The bill would apply retroactively to May 17, 2017 — the day Mueller was appointed by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein to investigate allegations of Russian meddling in the 2016 election and possible ties between Russia and Donald Trump’s campaign.

    http://time.com/4885770/robert-mueller-investigation-senate-legislation/

    Connivin Caniff in reply to TheFineReport.com. | August 3, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    Agreed 100%. Don’t fall for the baloney that Mueller is anything but evil and a threat to the Republic. We have to stop this coup now!

    I would also settle for Trump to pre-emptively pardon everyone involved. That puts the ball back in Mueller’s/Democrats’ court. Let them do the illegal freakout thing instead of Trump.

I’m sure Mueller obtained the names for the grand jurors from the rolls of registered democrats or contributors to Hillary Clinton.

    Connivin Caniff in reply to snopercod. | August 3, 2017 at 9:32 pm

    In D.C. “registered democrats or contributors to Hillary Clinton” and pool of potential grand jurors is a tautology.

    puhiawa in reply to snopercod. | August 3, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    DC went 93% Clinton. Yes. You read that right. Including Mueller, of course.

      mailman in reply to puhiawa. | August 4, 2017 at 4:32 am

      How is that even possible that literally every single person in DC voted Democrat? Thats not far removed from every single person in Zimbabwe magically voting for Roberto Mugabe!

Well… it’s a coup then.

This will not be allowed to happen.

For those that have never read it, my favorite book.

https://archive.org/details/JohnRossUnintendedConsequences

Although I would recommend buying it to reward the author.

Mueller needs to be disbarred.

    Miles in reply to Ragspierre. | August 4, 2017 at 12:45 am

    Well, for some reason that escapes me now, the old saw about Prosecuting Attorneys and Ham Sandwiches comes to mind.

    But that may be just me considering the personal relationship between Mueller and his old-buddy-pal Comey.

      Ragspierre in reply to Miles. | August 4, 2017 at 6:09 am

      Well, someTHINGS entering your mind should also include how many times in the last several years grand juries DID NOT return indictments in cases that were politically charged, and how many times a prosecutor avoided using them.

Mueller has the man, now he’s going to find the crime.

Any attempt to prosecute a republican for dealings with Russia is going to encounter some fearsome discovery.

I Am Not A Lawyer.

Could someone explain why we’re freaking out at news that he’s empaneled a grand jury?

Isn’t that a normal step in an investigation like this?

    Petrushka in reply to clintack. | August 4, 2017 at 6:53 am

    Kind of assumes that a crime has been identified. It would be useful to have an essay of what grand juries actually do, especially in political cases.

Bucky Barkingham | August 4, 2017 at 7:50 am

Will there be leaks coming out of the Mueller organization the same way there are out of the White House?

notamemberofanyorganizedpolicital | August 4, 2017 at 10:52 am

Big problem with that “breaking news” headline.

It’s from the Democrat’s MSM’s WSJ.

The main investigative power of the Grand Jury is to allow a prosecutor to force a person to testify under oath. And, I suspect that this is the main reason why Mueller empaneled one in DC. Another reason was probably the convenience of Mueller and his staff. As there has been absolutely NO evidence presented to the public which shows, or even infers, any criminal conspiracy on the part of the Trump campaign or administration there is no crime being investigated and there never was one. This is just a political witch hunt and the people of this country know that.

That being said, the empaneling of a grand jury is significant in one regard. It significantly ramps up the pressure on the President. And, this is the main point of this whole exercise. As I have previously posted my feeling is that Mueller was appointed to forestall any active investigation into the activities, many of them criminal, of the Clintons, the Democrats and the members of the Obama administrations. While Comey was the investigative gatekeeper, the threat of effective investigations were controlled. When he was removed, the Establishment lost a significant amount of control of investigations in these areas. Even though a prima facia case of criminal wrongdoing existed in Servergate, HRC was “exonerated” prior to the election. The Clinton Foundation investigation has been lying dormant for years. The unmasking and subsequent illegal release of the names of Americans, by members of the Obama administration, never even got off the ground. And, then we have the distinct possibility that there was out-and-out illegal domestic surveillance of American. But, these things are still out there and they are a HUGE threat to the Establishment politicians. And, DC is beginning to realize the fact that Trump is a counter puncher. As the threats against him mount, he becomes more likely to use these investigations in self defense. And, events of the last few weeks are beginning to seriously worry the Establishment. Comey was fired. Trump is threatening to replace Sessions, unless Sessions starts doing his job [read as: investigation criminal leaks and other criminal activity by Obama, Clinton and others]. This is forcing Mueller to become more aggressive in his “investigation”.

Here is where this all rises to Byzantine levels of intrigue. Trump can not be bought with money. he is simply too wealthy and his income stream does not rely upon selling his influence. He has no future political aspirations, so he can not be influenced in that regard. In other words, there is little or no leverage on the man. Except for his family. Mueller’s actions are designed to provide leverage by finding or manufacturing legal threats to Trump’s family members. Sound familiar?

Where this gets so complicated is that people conflate the Mueller investigation with attempts to remove trump from office. While the Establishment would like to use the results of that investigation to remove Trump and install Pence, it is really a separate operation designed to provide leverage to block any of the potentially damaging criminal investigations into certain Establishment politicians. This is all part of the war between the Establishment and the people’s anti-establishment movement.

It will be interesting to s what Trump’s reaction to these threats will be. This could actually lead to an uprising, if it continues.

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