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Dallas Shootings: What We Know About the Shooters

Dallas Shootings: What We Know About the Shooters

At least one suspect wanted to kill white people, especially white officers

Thursday night, a man shot twelve law enforcement officers, killing five. Two civilians were also shot. Three of the wounded officers and one of the deceased were Dallas Area Rapid Transit (DART) officers.

Mark Hughes was wrongly identified as a suspect, but turned himself in and was quickly released.

So far, police have identified four suspects. Three are in custody, one is a woman. According to CBS News, they worked together with the goal of killing as many officers as possible.

According to the Dallas Police Chief, at least one suspect told the hostage negotiator he was upset over BlackLivesMatter, was upset about recent police shootings, and was upset at and wanted to kill white people, especially white officers. The suspect also told the hostage negotiator that he was not affiliated with any groups and that he acted alone.

After an overnight standoff, the suspect was killed when officers used a bomb robot to blast him out. “Other options would have exposed our officers to grave danger. The suspect is deceased as a result of detonating the bomb,” said DPD police Chief.

One of the suspects, a man with a rifle, fired shots while hiding behind a pillar.

“We got a guy with a long rifle but we don’t know where the hell he’s at,” an officer could be heard saying over the police scanner.

Brown believes this was a coordinated strike on his police force.

“Working together with rifles triangulated at elevated positions in different positions where the march ended up going. … Why would you know to post up there?” Brown said.

Two suspects were arrested in a traffic stop after a brief chase. One suspect was a woman who was caught in a community college parking garage.

The deceased suspect indicated there were bombs planted around the city and that officials would find them all eventually.

The shooter who was involved in the standoff with police claimed bombs were planted throughout the area. Dallas police, joined by ATF personnel, used bomb sniffing dogs to search the downtown area, and found no explosives, a law enforcement source told CBS News senior investigative producer Pat Milton.

ID on the deceased shooter?

The family of one of the wounded DART officers spoke to NBC News:

The investigation is ongoing:


Even sadder:

More as we get it.

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Humphrey's Executor | July 8, 2016 at 11:03 am

The Chief Law Enforcement Officer in the land is anti-law enforcement. So we get this kind of chaos.

Today’s San Diego Union Tribune is carrying a New York Times article by Timothy Williams titled: Study: Police Use of Force More Likely for Blacks, issued by something calling itself The Center for Policing Equity.

The underlying study “The Science of Justice: Race, arrests, and Police use of force,” admittedly did not seek to determine whether the employment of force in any particular instance was justified, an element essential to support the researcher’s finding that the disparity in which African-Americans were subjected to police force.

The article by the NYT explicitly relies on the Mike Brown case, where the riots were caused by early false statements by the decedent’s partner in crime, namely that Brown had been shot in the back after he had surrendered. The partner in crime later changed his story when asked to testify under oath. Forensic evidence showed that Brown was not shot in the back, and had attacked a police officer before he was shot. Further, testimony from eye witnesses (black, — I suppose I have to add this) that Brown was in the process of committing attempted murder when killed by the police officer he was attacking.

A study of violent incidents involving police, that only focuses on police behavior without analyzing the behavior of the other party, is not legitimately described as “scientific,” because it ignores a major causation aspect of the use of force.

The common media meme in these growing situations bear’s some responsibility as cops are targets across the country.

I sent out the following to 38 media contacts across Colorado last night.
“With the increasing targeting of police across the country, it’s not surprising they’d be getting a little jumpy.”
That’s not to excuse what’s apparently happened in Minnesota & Louisiana, but that’s just it, the herd instincts of the media have already passed judgement for the most part. There’s still a lot that’s not known, but that doesn’t stop media whores

      Zachary in reply to Old0311. | July 8, 2016 at 12:31 pm

      I’d encourage everyone to avoid clicking that link. That site is notorious for disinformation and riddled with conspiracy theories. Unless you’re an Alex Jones fan don’t bother with it.

        amwick in reply to Zachary. | July 8, 2016 at 1:18 pm

        So, I guess you are saying all that social media stuff about Philando being a Crip is all wrong? I don’t know what the truth is at this point..

          Milhouse in reply to amwick. | July 8, 2016 at 2:23 pm

          No, what he’s saying, and what I’m saying, is that anything you read on Conservative Nuthouse or Gateway Pundit is as worthless as anything from Alex Jones or the World Weekly News. If you heard it from those sources you have exactly as much information as you did before you heard it. Their reporting something doesn’t make it even the tiniest bit more likely to be true. So only a fool would visit those sites for information.

          Daiwa in reply to amwick. | July 8, 2016 at 2:49 pm

          Alex Jones may be a whack job (true, IMO) but if you choose to seek information only from sources that pre-screen facts & withhold what they don’t want you to know (most traditional media), you end up not knowing much. The source of a fact does not taint it – it speaks for itself – and to suggest someone isn’t intelligent enough to sort wheat from chaff is a bit insulting.

          RodFC in reply to amwick. | July 8, 2016 at 2:50 pm

          The stuff about the Crips comes from gotnes, Chuck Johnsons site — a notoriously unreliable site.

          As for CTH, it is a mixed bag. Sometimes the posters are quick to spread bad rumors. Sundance has even castigated it in some primary threads.

          However, I think you can take the picture of the robber as valid. Keep in mind some of their posters pointed out details that indicate that the robber and the driver are different people. THough they look close ehough that only wakcos can blame the cop for mistaking the two.

          Milhouse in reply to amwick. | July 8, 2016 at 4:15 pm

          The source of an alleged fact certainly does taint it. That’s why courts admit evidence impeaching a witness. The word of a known liar is worth nothing. A “fact” that originates with Jones, Hoft, the Nut House, WND, etc. is not worth hearing because there’s no reason to suppose that it might be true.

          amwick in reply to amwick. | July 8, 2016 at 4:20 pm

          Well everyone has an opinion. CTH is more of a group source than a single source. It also has much more active moderation. Did anyone hear about the BOLO stop, as opposed to the tailight bs excuse?

          amwick in reply to amwick. | July 8, 2016 at 4:26 pm

          BTW CTH is way above LI in that that bad mouthing posters is not tolerated. The fact that it is referred to here as the Nuthouse is really ironic. You people bad mouth each other left and right when you feel like it. Many people that post this way would not be at all welcome there anyway, so I guess its good.

          Daiwa in reply to amwick. | July 8, 2016 at 4:49 pm

          You’ve confirmed that you’re just insulting people, Millhouse. By definition a fact cannot be ‘tainted’. Allegations, speculation, conclusions, etc., can all be ‘tainted’ by any source (happens all the time in the traditional media), but not factual information. Most of us are able to tell the difference. And this isn’t a court of law so the metaphor doesn’t apply. For sure, a source can undermine its own credibility, as does Alex Jones just about daily, but the truth doesn’t care who speaks or writes it.

          amwick in reply to amwick. | July 8, 2016 at 5:38 pm

          Most of the media is considering the video made my Lavish Reynolds as a factual source. Go figure….

          Milhouse in reply to amwick. | July 8, 2016 at 6:10 pm

          Daiwa, you’ve just confirmed that you’re an idiot. An alleged fact is not an established fact. Alleged facts can be and often are tainted.

      Old . . .
      This makes my point about the herd mentality to often expressed on this site by a certain segment.

      If you don’t subscribe to the views & doctrines expressed by that segment they automatically relegate you to be included with those of us they’ve dismissed as beneath considering. They can’t beat us in open debate so they

        Continued :
        marginalize & ostracise you.

        The degree to which you piss them off is measured by the number of down votes you get.

        An example of the true constitutional standing as demonstrated by “principled conservatives.

          Old0311 in reply to secondwind. | July 8, 2016 at 6:37 pm

          It looks like we are winning. LOL!! Truth is a funny thing as it’s seldom obvious at first. Our justice system is pretty good at finding where it’s hiding though.

      Ragspierre in reply to Old0311. | July 8, 2016 at 4:02 pm

      Sometimes Jonesing For Mother publishes something factually correct.

      That does NOT make them worth reading on a regular basis.

      Conservative Tree Sloughs are the alt-right equivalent.

        Milhouse in reply to Ragspierre. | July 8, 2016 at 4:18 pm

        Ditto for the National Enquirer. They got the Edwards story right, but at the same time they got dozens of other stories wrong. I’m still waiting for the Palins’ marriage to break up, or for her to be indicted for something or other, or whatever it was that the Enquirer was predicting in late 2008.

          Ragspierre in reply to Milhouse. | July 8, 2016 at 5:22 pm

          Yes, yes…

          Palin in bopping Big Foot, and is taking over for Judge Judy on TV.

          Read it first on The Enquirer…

Cut off welfare. Its clearly a bad investment. Same thing with inner city schools.

This shooting is the natural and causal result of the present administration sending three high level government representatives to the funeral of a street thug in Ferguson, MO.

Oh, and wait for it: Just one shooter. (My opinion)

Dejectedhead | July 8, 2016 at 11:46 am

I wonder if this shooting will receive the same support that Christopher Dorner received.

“At least one suspect wanted to kill white people, especially white officers”

Guess we’ll never know what motivated that shooter.

    The Friendly Grizzly in reply to fscarn. | July 8, 2016 at 6:43 pm

    Has the press ticked all the usual boxes yet?
    Grew up in poverty
    Great high school athlete
    Turning his life around
    Elementary School graduation picture

An attack like this has been in the planning stages for a while.

At least the POS shooter is dead. His life DID NOT, nor should it have, mattered. Rot in Hell a-hole.

The Friendly Grizzly | July 8, 2016 at 3:43 pm

The shooters are black. Why am I not hearing the strident cries for yet still more further different “gun control” as we hear when the perp is white?

Negative rhetoric about police almost from day one, removal of top military leaders who believe in the constitution, President of the US.
A political group that calls for the death of police and segregation, Black Lives Matter.
Political party that uses BLM anger to further it goals of fund raising and gun control, Democrats.
Political party which only puts on Kabuki show trials and promises of justice, Republicans.
Every incident between police and blacks top page, major headlines and hiding the incidences of inner city black on black crime and black on white crime, Main Stream Media.
Add all of this up and how many of you are surprised that this happened?
I guess every one forgot the NYC cops that were ambushed and killed shortly after the media blew up another incident? That was their trial run, they knew they could really stir up some trouble if they timed it just right.
Some one is trying to ignite a race war to keep our attention elsewhere, to keep it off of the Washington’s greed and power madness. Someone has weaponized every federal agency to be ready to step in and enforce magic pen laws. If you think either party is going to protect you think again, it’s all about staying in power. They are becoming the monarchy and we are being played.

    Barry in reply to scaulen. | July 8, 2016 at 5:05 pm

    “They are becoming the monarchy and we are being played.”

    They have been the monarchy for a long time.

A class diversity activist commits mass abortion.