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The clash of opposing progressive causes

The clash of opposing progressive causes

Which will win out, feminism or an open-door refugee policy?

The recent sexual gropings amidst the New Year’s Eve crowds in various European capitals, apparently perpetrated by gangs of Muslim men on local women, have thrown Europe’s progressives into turmoil. They are being presented with the dilemma of choosing between two favored principles: the freedom of modern women to move about cities unmolested versus the freedom of Middle Eastern Muslim immigrants to emigrate to Europe.

This clash was inevitable. Anyone the least bit familiar with the Middle Eastern Muslim world would know how restrictive the treatment of women often is, and what can happen to women who transgress—as all Western women would probably be considered to be doing just by living their normal Western lives. In this recent clash in Europe, so far it’s the women who are losing and the new arrivals who are winning, although that could change if the situation gets bad enough.

You can see the clash in the angry reaction to the statements of the mayor of Cologne—a woman—who suggested guidelines for female behavior at future public festivities:

Reker’s suggestion that women could avoid being sexually harassed (or raped, as two women reported they were on New Year’s Eve) by keeping potential assailants at “arm’s length” drew immediate backlash. On Twitter, the outrage—much of it alternating between shock and sarcasm—amassed under #einarmlaenge, or “an arm’s length” in German.

Aside from everything else you might say about it, Reker’s suggestion sides against the women and on the side of the perpetrators by placing the onus on the women to change their usual behavior in order to be safe, behavior that Western women have come to see as perfectly reasonable and ordinary: that of going out into a celebrating crowd. In addition, if you think about it, Reger’s suggestion is also absurd on the face of it: in crowds, it is impossible to keep anyone at arm’s length; that’s the very nature of a crowd. And if one is surrounded by a group of hostile people, what would be the avenue of escape? So if we follow Reker’s words to their only logical conclusion, it would mean that women shouldn’t go out to celebrate where there might be crowds of people in close proximity.

It has been clear for a long time that to defend fundamentalist Islamic culture in many of the countries of the Middle East is to defend cultures that tend to oppress women, to use a favored leftist term. And yet it has also been clear for a long time—at least since the 1979 revolution in Iran, when leftists joined forces with the repressive Islamists to overthrow the Shah—that leftists would often choose the Islamists over feminism. In some cases, actually, it was even the feminists themselves who chose to stand with the Islamists (I recall feminists/leftists donning chadors in 1979 in Iran as a badge of solidarity), or at least winked at them or tolerated them, perhaps thinking that in the end the progressives would win out over the Islamists. But the Islamists have had the last laugh there, haven’t they? And so they may again.

There have been recent glimmerings of a reaction in Germany that might balance things, at least a little bit: yesterday it was announced that Merkel’s government has suggested some changes in Germany’s sexual assault laws:

At present the courts can only order deportations when criminals are given custodial sentences of at least three years. The legal changes would allow deportations to go ahead for people given suspended sentences or jail-terms as short as one year, as well as for offenders aged under 18.

However, even those small changes may be hard to implement, because in Germany such deportation is only legal “to a limited range of states and only if the home country government agrees and the convicted person has travel documents.” This could easily rule out most of the refugees. And of course, it’s only an after-the-fact remedy: a crime must be committed first, and a perpetrator successfully identified and prosecuted. How often will that be happening, how many women will be sacrificed first, and how much money will be spent in an increased police presence?

Over one million asylum seekers arrived in Germany last year, and Merkel so far refuses to allow Germany to impose its own further limits, but insists on an EU-wide solution “through redistributing refugees inside the bloc, tighter external EU frontier controls and a deal with Turkey to reduce inflows from the Middle East.” Meanwhile, the newcomers continue to arrive.

[Neo-neocon is a writer with degrees in law and family therapy, who blogs at neo-neocon.]


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Am I the only one who sees this as a systemic collapse of the total Collectivist delusion castle?

    rinardman in reply to Ragspierre. | January 13, 2016 at 9:54 am

    Yeah Rags, they’re getting bitch slapped by reality. It was bound to happen, sooner or later.

    randian in reply to Ragspierre. | January 13, 2016 at 2:35 pm

    I don’t think so. They seem to be doubling down on it, asking women to not offend their rapists rather than hang the rapists.

    Radegunda in reply to Ragspierre. | January 13, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    Is anyone else wondering if Rags has figured out that the problem with Islam goes far beyond the (allegedly) 0.5 percent of Muslims who are “extremists,” and that perhaps those of us who have been pointing out the perils of mass Muslim immigration are motivated by something other than “religious bigotry”?

I’ve heard it said that there are about 50 million Muslims in Europe right now and that number will likely increase to 1.2 million by 2025.

Europe is going the way of Islam. Merkel will not matter.

Some theology PhDs see parallels between the central figure of Islamic prophecy, the Mahdi, and the Antichrist depicted in Revelation.

Five minutes about ISIS:

If the only choices are feminism or an open door refugee policy, then feminism loses and Germany becomes part of the Islamic state.

The reason feminism loses, is that the feminists themselves will vote for and support the Islamists at every step until the change cannot be stopped.

Feminists do not like being beaten by their husbands, forced to wear the veil, or raped in the streets during New Years parties, but they hate hate hate weak beta males. This is especially true for German women, who have a three thousand year history of welcoming new conquering tribes & of generally not uniting as country. Feminism isn’t a particularly forward thinking ideology either.

Europe’s only hope is rejection of both feminism and Islamism.

Open-door refugee policies will win out. Not only because of what rotten says above, but also because liberals are more than willing to sacrifice some of their own (fellow country men/women, that is, not necessarily other liberals) to prove their tolerance.

Its the liberal equivalence of going into battle. In any war, one expects some casualties. The difference is, patriots will volunteer themselves and then sacrifice themselves for their fellow citizens, while liberals will volunteer others, and then sacrifice others for their agenda.

It’s not just “women who transgress” in Muslim countries. I lived in Cairo for two years (under Mubarak) and often saw news reports about women being assaulted and groped. Some of those women were in full Islamic garb including face veil. I wonder now if some of that “groping” was more than touching but in fact the finger-raping which some of the women in Cologne report experiencing. This is what happened to Lara Logan to a more extreme degree. She suffered serious injury.

Essentially, while I know Muslim men who are respectful, decent people, the culture in general does not respect women in the Western sense. These young unmarried males invading Europe are a serious danger to European women.

    Once upon a time, serious men would have cracked some skulls.

    Now Merkel has the fire hoses turned on those dissenters.

      Ragspierre in reply to Andy. | January 13, 2016 at 3:09 pm

      We’ll wait and see who gets hosed…good and hard.

      The young people of Europe are waking up. Maybe in time…

        nordic_prince in reply to Ragspierre. | January 13, 2016 at 3:21 pm

        Indeed – if there are any young Europeans. They’re not having babies, which is part of the supposed reason why they’re welcoming the teeming hordes to prop up their socialism.

        The birth rate among native European populations is far below replacement rate, and too many of those who are left have swallowed the liberal pansy kool-aid. Europe is committing suicide, and they seem to be content with that ~

          I assert this refugee scam was Merkel’s ploy for cheap labor in Germany.

          Just a shade gentler than imprisoning Jews and Pols, but same motivation by her Supporter$.

        Radegunda in reply to Ragspierre. | January 13, 2016 at 4:19 pm

        Did you wake up, Rags? Or do you still think it’s simply bigoted to call for a limit on Muslim immigration to the U.S., or to be wary of mainstream Islam, because you have a nice Muslim friend?

          Ragspierre in reply to Radegunda. | January 13, 2016 at 7:00 pm

          WTF is this tick you have, where you think you can MISREPRESENT WHAT I HAVE SAID in favor of what you want to PRETEND I’ve said?

          STOP LYING! I’ll tear your head off (metaphorically) and spit down your wind pipe if you keep it up.

          As to mass immigration OF ANY FLUCKING BODY, I have clearly said I’m against it.

The result of 3 decades of emasculating European men.

Maybe the feminists just need to take a page from the college feminism handbook, and teach Muslim refugee men to not rape.

Sounds reasonable, right? [/sarcasm]

Paul In Sweden | January 13, 2016 at 1:08 pm

The refugee and immigrant rape gangs have been active for many years, pointing this out makes you a racist here in the EU. Now, for a brief bit of time some people are starting to notice. The media and the governments are batting down the hatches to quell this surge of actual news that has escaped the PC censures. The Feminists have been all over the place saying that the gang rapes and roving bands of Muslim immigrants seeking their next victim has nothing to do with the rapes; it is men and Rape Culture PERIOD


    I don’t mean to be critical, and I know it’s a different world in Sweden than it is here in the US, but aren’t the majority of able-bodied men in Sweden… Swedish? If this is a common occurrence there (rape gangs), then why aren’t there smoking muslim corpses in the gutters every morning, reminding the others to behave? I can’t imagine this going on, even in a city like New York, without a generous helping of rough justice being served up.

Midwest Rhino | January 13, 2016 at 2:23 pm

The attack on the civilized West includes releasing all kinds of evil. The crimes of Bill Clinton are still overlooked by the Joy Behars of the left, but that is relatively isolated in the overall body. “The Naked Communist” revealed the communist plan to degrade our culture … family unit, sexual standards, education, media, etc.

Atheist Marxism and the Frankfurt School of “critical theory” failed because America (and the west) have cultural coherence and were not so easily destabilized. It took decades of degrading us internally, to weaken us to where so many now believe all cultures are superior to our own, and “diversity is strength”.

So despite the conflict between these weaponized counter culture constructs, they are only conflicting with each other now that they have reached critical mass. We have cancer and tuberculosis killing us … in time one disease interferes with the other in their mutual attempt to kill us. But that is only after they have metastasized.

The leftist hate for the traditional West transcends all else. Obama just said love will prevail, and Hillary wants to run a campaign of love. Of course these are the biggest haters around … it is an Orwellian Love=Hate that they really preach. There are no “winners”, unless we retake the high ground and cast them all out.

    Radegunda in reply to Midwest Rhino. | January 13, 2016 at 4:25 pm

    One of the weird things about the leftist hate for the traditional West is that leftists seem to take for granted that whatever they actually value about that tradition — e.g. “tolerance” and “diversity” — will survive all the assaults they’re launching against Western culture, including the mass importation of Muslims who categorically reject tolerance and diversity.

Henry Hawkins | January 13, 2016 at 4:10 pm

The titular dichotomy may be analogized as a choice between refugees (European mass suicide) or feminism (an annoying rash).

No question the refugee people win this. Democrats have no problem with authentic rape culture. It’s only the made-up kind we have here that makes them crazy.

Women and blacks – having the football pulled away by Democrats consistently since the Dems took off their sheets.

Germany should pay Bulgaria, Poland, Romania, Greece and the Ukraine to create safe spaces to house these Muslims. Feed them well and provide medical treatment, but surround these safe spaces with barbed wire fences and armed guards. Keep them in these safe spaces until they can return home.