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Cruz: GOP Leadership are “Effective” . . . Democrat Leaders

Cruz: GOP Leadership are “Effective” . . . Democrat Leaders

“They’ve passed more Democratic priorities than Harry Reid ever could”

Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz has a history of pushing back against GOP leadership and arguing that too many Republicans in Congress are “election conservatives.”

Earlier this week, Cruz appeared on Hannity to discuss a new Fox poll that has him as third in the GOP presidential race (behind Trump and Carson), and during the course of the interview, he noted that the GOP establishment “looks down on the voters who elected” them.


In today’s Meet the Press interview, Cruz states that he believes that GOP leaders in Congress are “effective Democrat leaders.”  NBC reports:

In an interview on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Cruz said Republican leaders, especially in the Senate, are “making it easier for Barack Obama and [Senate Minority Leader] Harry Reid to add trillions in debt.”

“The truth of the matter is Republican leadership are the most effective Democrat leaders we’ve ever seen. They’ve passed more Democratic priorities than Harry Reid ever could,” Cruz said. But even after House Speaker John Boehner announced he would relinquish his position and retire from Congress, Cruz would not go so far as to call for Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell to step down.

During the course of the interview, Cruz provides an example of the disparity between voters’ priorities and those of the GOP suggesting that if you ask Republican voters for their top twenty priorities and compare that with GOP leadership priorities, you’d find that eighteen of the voters’ priorities are not on the GOP leadership list. Then he suggests looking at the top twenty Democrat leadership priorities, and you’ll find that eighteen do match those of GOP leadership.  I’m sure the eighteen is just an example, but he makes his point.

Here’s the interview (via NBC):


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Ted is exactly right.

Exactly. Right.

The Ted.

The Cruzster.

Nah, I like President Cruz.

MouseTheLuckyDog | October 18, 2015 at 11:15 am

Yesterday I learned something shocking about Cruz.
He apparently does not have a significant effort to get on the ballot in many states.

With the caveat that I have not gotten to the meat of the story yet.

Apparently with six weeks remaining in many states, the only two candidates who are making efforts to get on the ballots in several second wave states ie states that will come after the first bunch of states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina. Only Trump and Jeb!

Perhaps the debates should start having requirements that you have to be on enough states ballots to garner 60% of the delegates.

Why root for some guy to win the lottery when they aren’t buying lottery tickets.

    Poor Mouse…

    The Conservative Nuthouse is not a reliable source of information. They are barely-veiled white supremacist cultists with a track record of getting it wrong, regularly and spectacularly, from back in the early days of the Zimmerman trial to their most recent Spectacle of Fail where they repeatedly fell for fake “scoops” from various 4chan & 8chan trolls in the Oregon shooter incident.

    Poor Mouse.

      retire05 in reply to Amy in FL. | October 18, 2015 at 1:11 pm

      Not to mention that the monitors at the Conservative Nut House will kick you off, and prevent you from commenting, in a heartbeat if you dare to question anything they post.

      One of their “regulars” was bashing Texas with remarks that made people think that all Texans are just toothless white trash that marry their cousins. When I objected, I got booted.

      Their motto should be “In The Tank For Trumb” and they will bash any other candidate, no matter how conservative. They recently published an article that questioned Cruz’s conservative bona fides. The only people allowed to comment are the bobble head dolls, nodding affirmatively, that make up their readership.

    The nutbag at Tree Sloughs didn’t just imply that all the other campaigns are stupid.

    He outright says that they’re all part of some grand conspiracy.

    “Put another way, if a candidate was genuine, there are specific actions needed now in order for that candidate to be reasonably considered ‘making-an-earnest-effort’. Absent of those actions, the motivation is transparently somewhat “’less than’” making a real bid to attain the GOP nomination.”

    So all other campaigns besides T-rump’s and Jeb!’s are faux campaigns, and all the candidates are part of the fix.

    Poor Mouse…

“Gop leadership looks down on the voters who elected them”. Yep… and they think we’ re too stupid to see it.

Cruz rips into “little yellow god”, demands conservatives read New York Times!

Oh wait, that wasn’t Ted Cruz. It was some nimrod who, unlike Cruz, just doesn’t get it.

Ted Cruz: Trump’s campaign helping mine

    Ragspierre in reply to DaMav. | October 18, 2015 at 2:01 pm

    I was wondering when the pretend Cruz supporter would come by to attempt a thread-jack here.

    Now we know…

      Posting a link to Cruz in a thread about Cruz is a thread-jacking to weak minds

      Why don’t you follow it and learn something from Cruz himself?

      Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | October 18, 2015 at 2:21 pm

      I predicted long ago that Cruz would wax T-rump’s back and ride him like a surfboard to victory.

      I read the piece you linked to hours ago. Meh.

      And, yes, you are an obvious “pretend” supporter of Cruz who WAS attempting ANOTHER thread-jack. Does T-rump pay you, are are you just giving it up for free?

We had the Fiorina surge (that faded), then we had the Rubio surge now we have the Cruz surge. Well let’s hope that he actually gets debate time unlike the previous two. He’s a very smart guy, very erudite. Not sure about his ability to appeal to those crossover Dems and Independents but without him getting a fair shake in the CNBC debate we won’t know. I’d rather hear him speak than Paul, Huckabee or Christie.

Subotai Bahadur | October 18, 2015 at 2:28 pm

I would note in support of Cruz’ statement that the Republican leadership of the House is now talking openly in THE HILL about the necessity for a coalition Speakership with the Democrats as the only alternative; since working with the Conservatives is beyond the Pale.

GOPe members at that level do not accidentally publicly mention things like that. If there is a coalition Speakership, in the absence of a functional non-Democrat, Republican presidential candidate [Trump, Cruz, or Jindal]; there is no reason for Conservatives to vote, campaign, or work in any putative 2016 election.

It is either form a SECOND party, or give up on electoral politics.

Just so we all know what the new rules are going to be.

    Any “centrist” Republican who votes with a Democrat to elect a Speaker will immediately find himself or herself on the receiving end of a primary challenge by a Conservative and they KNOW it. MARK MY WORDS IT WILL NOT HAPPEN. Corollary: Peter King and Charlie Dent are both MORONS.

    Even the Iowa primary for it’s us House seat isn’t until March 18th for the he June 7th Primary election. House of Representatives election deadlines are quite a bit more forgiving than Presidential deadlines.

    The GOPe knows that it will be done as an organization if it creates a “coalition speakership.” Those conservatives who are still putting any money into the GOPe would rebel, and the tap would forever be shut off from the most reliable donors (which is likely why “Speaker weeper” is leaving, the GOPe has been bleeding money) because people are donating to candidates and 527s directly, rather than the RNCC and the RNSC.

    The battlecry “NOT ONE RED CENT” has gone out, been heard, and it is actually scaring the pants off of the Washington insiders who have taken for granted the Conservatives money and votes.

    P.S. – Peter King and Charlie Dent didn’t accidentally mention it. It’s a PSYOPS action. Make it look like “well, my colleagues are thinking about forming a coalition with the Democrat members, maybe I should re-think my hard-line stance on demanding Conservative Leadership and be willing to consider someone more ‘moderate.’

    The way to think about this is “prisoner’s game theory.” Everybody demands a Conservative speaker be put forward, and as long as nobody buckles, a Conservative speaker WILL win. If the Republicans buckle though, what we’ll get is another 14 months of weak-kneed ‘leadership’ (if it can be called that) where the Democrat party gets what they want, and the Conservatives get the finger from the GOPe.

Cruz towers above Rubio and Fiorina in his willingness to take on the feckless GOPe and grasp of the issues. He is weak on H1b visas but little else, while Rubio and Fiorina are flagrant Amnesty shills.

If he remains the courageous intellectual conservative he may even catch up to the icebreakers — Trump and Carson. You have to credit Ted Cruz with being smart enough to avoid attacking the guy hacking a path through the Republican Establishment. As we see here, Cruz is a lot smarter about that than some of his ostensible supporters.

    Ragspierre in reply to DaMav. | October 18, 2015 at 2:43 pm

    “Others have gone out of their way to smack [Trump]; I haven’t,” Cruz said in an interview airing Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” “I think Donald’s campaign has been immensely beneficial for our campaign. … And the reason is he’s framed the central issue of this Republican primary as who will stand up to Washington? Well, the natural follow-up, if that’s the question, is who actually has stood up to Washington? Who has stood up to both Democrats and to leaders in their own party?”

    But, Cruz added, he has a better record to run on than Trump, a billionaire real estate developer and entertainer, or retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson, another darling of conservatives who has polled near the front of the Republican presidential primary field.

    “I think my record is markedly different in terms of actually standing up and taking on the Washington cartel,” Cruz said. “And I think that’s why we’re seeing particularly…as voters get more and more educated, study the candidates, listen to the candidates in person, I think that’s why we’re seeing the grass roots momentum…we’re seeing…is conservatives…coalescing behind our campaign.”

    Yes. Conservatives…as the scales fall from their eyes WRT Duh Donald…will coalesce behind the principled conservative many of us have been militating for.


    “Well, the natural follow-up, if that’s the question, is who actually has stood up to Washington? Who has stood up to both Democrats and to leaders in their own party?”

    And only delusional fools would see Mr. Establishment in that role.

      Speaking of delusional fools, why do you feel compelled to attack Cruz and his supporters for not joining you in going moonmonkey crazy attacking Trump every time his name comes up? Cruz says Trump is an asset. So do many of Cruz’s supporters.

      I don’t particularly care what you think because you don’t. But you aren’t helping Ted Cruz by flying into a rage at people who agree with him that Trump has been and is an asset.

      Of course Cruz is the more principled conservative. But without Trump in the race all we would be hearing is that Bush has it wrapped up so why bother with anyone else. Trump shattered and continues to shatter the belief that the GOPe is invincible.

      I’m sorry you don’t understand the Cruz strategy or why he is not attacking Trump. You must believe elections are won by calling people names and making false accusations. Fortunately that is your problem and not Ted Cruz’s. You are insufficiently insightful to tie his intellectual or emotional bootlaces.

        Ragspierre in reply to DaMav. | October 18, 2015 at 5:27 pm

        I’ve made it quite clear that I do understand Mr. Cruz.

        I’ve likewise made it clear that I do understand T-rump.

        You’re nonsense about flying into a rage is merely your intellectually bankrupt way of trying to minimize my comments.

        You are not a Cruz supporter. As any discerning reader here has seen lo these many weeks. And your initial trolling comment was precisely designed to thread-jack this thread. Wasn’t it, “nimrod”?

        Ragspierre in reply to DaMav. | October 18, 2015 at 6:04 pm

        “But without Trump in the race all we would be hearing is that Bush has it wrapped up so why bother with anyone else.”

        And yet…

        Isn’t it peculiar…and telling…that you “Cruz supporters” who are hacks for T-rump magically attribute things to T-rump that he has not done…and cannot do?

          It is very unclear how the link refutes the quoted comment, particularly in light of the fact that Trump outpolls bush & Rubio by nearly 2:1 in Florida:

          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | October 18, 2015 at 8:26 pm

          If can’t make that connection…and DO make the one you make…

          I can’t help you, brother.

          That’s OK, it’s about what I figured.

          If you look, closely, with your eyes open, you can see the downward trajectory of both bush and Rubio correspond precisely to the upward trajectory of trump.

          You don’t have to like trump to see that correlation.

          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | October 19, 2015 at 8:33 am

          But if YOU look closely, you’ll see that Jeb! is NOT doing well.

          Not against Rubio.

          Not against much of anybody. He SURE doesn’t have a lock on anything.

          “But without Trump in the race all we would be hearing is that Bush has it wrapped up so why bother with anyone else.”

          Is thus delusional bullshit. T-rump is not magical.

          “Is thus delusional bullshit. T-rump is not magical.”

          No magic involved, I agree. The only delusion is ignoring the facts. Without trump it is very likely bush would be in the lead and the r party would be pushing the meme, bush is inevitable. Hatred of trump can cause delusions…

          No one can know the precise outcome of history when the underlying facts are different. We do know the R party plan. Trump wrecked that plan, pure and simple. If you can not acknowledge this, you are either ignorant, or TDS has twisted you. I know you’re not ignorant, so TDS.

          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | October 19, 2015 at 10:29 am

          “Without trump it is very likely bush would be in the lead…”

          The facts show otherwise. There’s nothing…in reality…to support that fantasy.

          Ergo, your TDS.

          Henry Hawkins in reply to Ragspierre. | October 19, 2015 at 2:35 pm

          In April 2015, before Trump entered the race, Marco Rubio led Jeb Bush 15% to 13%.

          The idea that Trump is the reason Jeb Bush is polling poorly is wrong. Jeb Bush has polled poorly from the very beginning, and certainly long before Trump entered in July 2015.

          “The facts show otherwise.”

          I’ve pointed you to the Florida poll that shows precisely the change in jeb! and rubio’s numbers as it relates to trumps rise. You just make the comment about “facts” but do not back it up. The national poll shows the same results of course (see below)

          “In April 2015, before Trump entered the race, Marco Rubio led Jeb Bush 15% to 13%.”

          More TDS, you must be using your own special HH polling numbers. Rubio never surpassed Bush in April:

          The polling is quite clear if you open you eyes. You don’t have to like it, but the chart tells the story.

          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | October 19, 2015 at 7:27 pm

          Dude! Read your own polling aggregates!

          By the first week of June, Jeb! was in trouble, LONG before Duh Donald.

          Why is this hard for you to accept? TDS?

          “By the first week of June, Jeb! was in trouble, LONG before Duh Donald.

          Why is this hard for you to accept? TDS?”

          Uh, you need to put your glasses on. Let’s see, what happened that “first week of June”? Oh, that’s right, Trump entered the race, and it is all downhill thereafter for Senor jeb! What, precisely, do you consider “LONG before”, 30 minutes?

          Keep trying.

          Ragspierre in reply to Ragspierre. | October 19, 2015 at 10:53 pm

          Ah. More of that “magic T-rump”.

          You’ve got TDS BAD, boy.

          “Ah. More of that “magic T-rump”.”

          It’s a comedy.

          Keep trying. Maybe those squiggly lines on the graph are just too hard for you to decipher.