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Marco Rubio: Trump Won’t be Republican Nominee

Marco Rubio: Trump Won’t be Republican Nominee

“I think our nominee is going to be someone that embraces the future.”

Marco Rubio made a campaign stop in New Hampshire today and dismissed Donald Trump’s current front-runner status, saying that Trump will not be the Republican nominee for 2016.

Sahil Kapur of Bloomberg reported:

Rubio Dismisses Trump in N.H.: He Won’t Be ‘Our Nominee’

“Ultimately the Republican Party will reach out to all voters based on who our nominee is. And I don’t believe Donald Trump will be our nominee,” the Florida senator said after speaking to a small crowd outside a car service center in this town of Orford. “I think our nominee is going to be someone that embraces the future, that understands the opportunities before us, that’s optimistic but realistic about the challenges before us.”

He acknowledged that “people are angry” and “they have a right to be,” but insisted that “we should allow that anger to motivate us, but we shouldn’t allow that anger to define us. We’re not an angry nation. We are an optimistic nation who has every reason to be optimistic about the future.”…

“There’s another gentleman running for president whose slogan is Make America Great Again. And I understand what he’s trying to say. But I would remind him that America is great,” Rubio said. “Ask yourself this question: who would you trade places with? Would you rather be China? Would you rather be Brazil or India or anyone else for that matter? There’s no nation on earth I’d trade places with. The issue’s not that America isn’t great. The issue is that America has the chance to be greater. And we’re not fulfilling our potential.”

Here’s a short video:

It’s still very early to make predictions. At some point in the recent past, Rubio, Scott Walker and Jeb Bush were all considered front-runners as well.

This polling graph from Real Clear Politics tells the whole story so far:

GOP nomination graph RCP

Featured image via YouTube.


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I am quite happy with the range of possibilities for Republican nominee. There are several of them who would do quite well, in contrast to the Democratic party, where the choice is Clinton or … umm … Clinton whether you like her or not.

I appreciate Donald Trump for being willing to say what is obvious about political correctness and borders. These are two issues on which the people currently running the country are insisting on policies that are self-destructive for the United States. And, few people (particularly from the Democratic party) have been willing to use common sense about this.

I buy the arguments that Trump has very little chance of becoming president, but his campaign continues to be interesting, and it is certainly not a joke as some people on the left would claim.

    I no longer buy the arguments that Trump has very little chance of becoming president. On the contrary: I think he does have a shot at the nomination. It’s why the GOP Elites are making up the rules as Trump’s poll numbers remain up. If the GOP Elites thought Trump doesn’t have a chance, they’d let him burn himself out.

Hey it’s that Rubio guy who lied to everybody and tried to sneak Amnesty through for Chuck Schumer.

Not A Member of Any Organized Political | August 26, 2015 at 4:10 pm

It’s a conspiracy!!!!! Snark Snark!

Rubio is basically a nice guy, one who would be competent as president, who would work to overcome some of Obama’s bastardizations of our laws, but who would most likely, be a president with a large growth of immigrants from all over. Plus, Rubio has said he would create a pathway to citizenship for for those immigrants here illegally.

He’s not the person we need at this time in our history.

    Bettenguy in reply to Doug Wright. | August 26, 2015 at 7:42 pm

    There’s this myth among certain parts of the Republican Party that if we just elect the right candidate, the separation of powers and all of the other checks and balances go away and we will be living in a conservative utopia within a couple of months. It’s an entirely false narrative.

    Rubio is not only a good candidate and would make a good President, he can be elected. The one described above won’t even win the nomination.

      Radegunda in reply to Bettenguy. | August 26, 2015 at 11:37 pm

      I assume you’re referring to the mythmaking of Trump fans, who are wont to say things like “No more politicians!” and “The GOP [or the Uniparty] must be destroyed!” They do have some tendency to think that Trump will be issuing directives like a CEO who doesn’t have to deal with a legislature.

If we hammer Rubio for amnesty, can we also hammer Trump for him wanting an Assault Weapons Ban? But I guess that’s just “an unfair question” to ask the Donald.

    No question from a voter is unfair, we each have our own views and questioning a candidate relating to our views has to be fair or our elections will become a travesty.

    My issue with questions are the msm types come up with “gotcha” questions completely unrelated to issues facing US or related to positions stated by a candidate. The Scott Pelley’s of the msm world care only about attacking conservatives and Republicans, plus other such “non-conformists,” yet never do such when dealing with their chosen bunch (Really, the Chosen Socialist bunch!). Kelly and Wallace, and Baier, followed the Pelley approach during that first GOP debate, just like good Journolists faithful to the DNC! Or was it the RNC this time?

    Recall that GOP Elites have stated several times that they want Trump removed from the Republican stage and his followers drummed out of the GOP ranks.

    CloseTheFed in reply to Kondor77. | August 26, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    Immigration is EXISTENTIAL.

    We can always reverse a “ban,” but erasing citizenship, once granted to 40 million foreigners, and their children, and their brothers, their sisters, their parents, et cetera, ad nauseum, cannot be undone.

    That’s the difference. FIGURE IT OUT. 25% of the elementary school children in my county are illegal aliens or children of illegal aliens. We cannot assimilate all of them. There is a tipping point, and we are damn close if we haven’t already passed it.

    Myself and my friends, believe we are past it. We are just hoping against all odds that we are wrong.

    dorsaighost in reply to Kondor77. | August 26, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    except that Trump has been asked that question and he has answered what his current position is … can Rubio say the same about amnesty ?

    of course not …

    I would point out that nobody really gives a sh*t about “assault weapon” bans … you do realize that with one simple modification to an AR-15 type rifle makes it “not an assault weapon” in any state in the Union ? there are hundreds of thousands of legal AR-15’s in California that has the strictest “assault weapon” ban in the nation …

    Estragon in reply to Kondor77. | August 27, 2015 at 1:10 am

    Only three years ago, Trump blasted Romney for being too “mean” and “unreasonable” for suggesting self-deportation, and said he thought “up to 30 million” illegals should be granted amnesty with a pathway to citizenship.

    Naturally, the suckers who follow this clown believe these are sincere positions and he can be trusted. They never ask his former business partners or creditors about the cost of trusting Donald Trump’s word, though.

Rubio is just another democrat lite Big Government Bush republican. It is laughable for him to talk about optimism for the country as though Trump isn’t the biggest optimist for the future of the country bar none (provided Trump is elected of course). Rubio will never recover from his flip flopping on immigration and amnesty where he showed he could be completely usurped and manipulated by the likes of McCain and Graham. Screw Rubio.

    Radegunda in reply to Gary Britt. | August 26, 2015 at 11:41 pm

    Trump’s “optimism” is inseparable from Trump’s sense of the singular greatness of Trump — e.g., “I’m really good at this!” “I’ll be the greatest jobs president ever!” “Look at my poll numbers! We don’t need an election!”

    Radegunda in reply to Gary Britt. | August 26, 2015 at 11:47 pm

    Why does Trump get away with flip-flopping on such basic issues as his party identification, or the greatness of Hillary Clinton, or the economy doing better under Democrats than Republicans, or the wisdom of single-payer health care?

    Why is he not unacceptable on account of his part in getting Democrats elected to inflict left-wing policies on us?

    Why does he get away with his advocacy of self-censorship in accordance with Islamic blasphemy law?

      Estragon in reply to Radegunda. | August 27, 2015 at 1:12 am

      I blame public education, but we should also remember the observation of Mencken after seeing one of Barnum’s exhibits a century ago: “No one ever went broke by underestimating the intelligence of the American public.”

He’s right. Trump won’t be the nominee. Ross Perot had the same numbers Trump has now, and he flamed out.

    Valerie in reply to Mercyneal. | August 26, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    And look who got elected, on Ross Perot’s watch.,_1996

      dorsaighost in reply to Valerie. | August 26, 2015 at 8:33 pm

      and they looked at it and found that Clinton would have won even if Perot wasn’t in the race … so whats your point again ?

        Estragon in reply to dorsaighost. | August 27, 2015 at 1:13 am

        Not correct. What they found was that Perot drew equally from both parties. NOT the same thing, because most of the Republican voters would have come home to Bush, whereas the Democrats for Perot didn’t trust Clinton at all.

    Perot quit the race in mid-stream because, he said, that his family was in danger. Then, Perot jumped back into the race some time later; too late to be really competitive then; he blew his wad and not to much left in his political tank then.

    Don’t know the truth as to which of other candidate he was drawing from, yet good evidence that he was drawing people from both sides when he quit.

    If Perot had stayed in the race all the way, he had a good chance of winning the top prize. Or, maybe Forty One would have been a two term president, or maybe Perot would have been a one termer.

      Carol Herman in reply to Doug Wright. | August 26, 2015 at 8:01 pm

      Perot was a Larry King Live candidate. He was interviewed by King when he said “sure, he’d run.” But people had to see that he got on 50 States ballots. And, in every state volunteers ran forward.

      Don’t think Perot ever left his home in Texas. But 60 Minutes did a profile where they brought their cameras to him.

      Yes, Ross Perot quit the race. His staff cried. And, 3 days later he tried to resuscitate his campaign. With all this nonsense Perot ended up with either 19% to 25% of the actual vote. The elder Bush lost his bid for a second term. And, Bill Clinton became president on 37% of the vote. Not a majority, but a plurality.

      Trump’s lead is real! Politicians and pundits don’t understand Trump’s lead at all. (Back in 1968 when Nixon was running the first time, he said “it doesn’t matter what they say about you, as long as your name is on top of the fold.) Back then the NY Times plotzed.

        Estragon in reply to Carol Herman. | August 27, 2015 at 1:15 am

        Sure, his lead is real. So was Giuliani’s in 2007 and Cain’s in 2011. Neither got the nomination, and neither will Trump.

    Barry in reply to Mercyneal. | August 26, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    “Ross Perot had the same numbers Trump has now, and he flamed out.”

    Trump is no Perot. Trying to predict the future based upon a Perot 3rd party run, in a petty attack on Bush out of personal spite, is worthless.

Seem to be whistling past the graveyard there, Marco.

If you spend three minutes in a room with Rubio, you find yourself really liking him. Just something about him.

Well, I like him. I know Trump has most of the support right now, but I still like Cruz and Rubio. We’ll see what happens. My vote really doesn’t matter in any election (considering the state I’m in), so for me this is all just entertainment and intriguing.

    Juba Doobai! in reply to Mr. Izz. | August 26, 2015 at 7:52 pm

    Like him all you want, Izz. Rubio has shown us that that feeling is irrelevant because he’s also demonstrated to us that we cannot trust him. It’s nice to like people. It’s virtue if we can trust them.

      Radegunda in reply to Juba Doobai!. | August 26, 2015 at 11:49 pm

      Is there any more basis for trusting Trump, considering his willingness to give material support to leftist politicians in order to enrich himself?

        Juba Doobai! in reply to Radegunda. | August 27, 2015 at 8:45 pm

        This whole Rubio-Trump comparison is about self-interest. As a politician, Rubio makes promises to his constituency that he will seek their self-interest. He violated that by seeking his own. That’s a breach no constituency would accept. Donald Trump in his business dealings makes promises to fellow sharks that he will serve his self-interest and, for in doing so he serves theirs. Sometimes.

        Of the two, Rubio’s breach of faith was the worst because it was so easy to pursue the self-interest of constituents, but he refused to. He was a newly elected official aided into power by the Tea Party, and he immediately shanked the TP. His promises to them meant nothing. He gave them no thanks, passed no favorable legislation, did nothing that the TP could thank him for. He made the TP folks feel used and abused. He played them, and all they could say was “Et, tu, Marco?”.

        Trump’s successful pursuit of self-interest depended on factors in his external environment that were unfavorable to him.

        Trump, as someone else said, is a nationalist. I cannot, with confidence, make that claim about Rubio because he seems more concerned with the welfare of illegal Hispanics than he does with American citizens. Therefore, as a nationalist, would I trust Trump to pursue the self-interest of the nation? I would because serving the national self-interest also serves his own.

        SKinDC in reply to Radegunda. | August 29, 2015 at 6:17 am

        Yes, there is basis for trusting Trump. Go back and read any number of old articles, where his business associates and business competition are directly quoted (even guys he beat out on a deal) They ALL say very similar things about him: yes, he’ll theatrically exaggerate… but not on anything truly important. He’s creative as anything. Deals he put together and the way he could sell them, had his competitors ruefully acknowledging Trump beat them fair and square. Last of all: ‘in business, he’s a straight arrow’. His word is good. If he makes a commitment, it happens.

        Much of the above was in a NYT 8 page in-depth profile from 2004. He’s known for being fiercely loyal, will not tolerate liars, and in general, is well-liked. He’s a pleasant guy.

        Lousie S, whom he brought on board in the early 80’s- one of the first women in such a powerful position, who went on to build her own hugely successful development company, said of Trump, ‘if it’s not an impossible project, it’s not interesting to him’.

        This dovetails perfectly with a 1988 interview w/ Oprah, where she asked if he’d ever run. He said he highly doubted it. He loves what he does. Then said… if it ever got ‘bad enough’ he’d consider a run.

        To me, all of this explains everything one needs to know about Trump and how he’d operate as President: tenacity on the job, undaunted determination, creative in designing solutions to otherwise intractable problems, builds great teams/hires quality people, a ‘happy warrior’, does not get overwhelmed, patriotic… and our nation is ‘bad enough’ right now, he’s thrown his hat in the ring.

Would love to hear the candidates talk about who their big donors are and what they will owe them in return.

Trump owes no one.
To whom is Marco Rubio beholden?

    Uncle Samuel in reply to clafoutis. | August 26, 2015 at 10:45 pm

    To whom is Rubio beholden? Probably the Chamber of Commerce and the big business/big money donors who want cheaper labor, who are pushing for open borders, amnesty and keeping the invaders who are already here.

    Radegunda in reply to clafoutis. | August 26, 2015 at 11:50 pm

    Whom has Trump supported in return for favors to enrich himself?

    What consistency of political principle has he shown?

      Juba Doobai! in reply to Radegunda. | August 27, 2015 at 8:50 pm

      The principle of self-interest. I trust a man who openly declares his pursuit of his own self-interest. Once upon a time, the locus of American foreign policy was American self-interest. Now it is that of whatever people from third world hellholes.

      Rubio lied when he promised to put his constituents self-interest before his own. That lie puts him outside the pale.

      SKinDC in reply to Radegunda. | August 29, 2015 at 6:25 am

      Juba has it right. It is self-interest, and to do so well, over and over in a tough business, means that your deals must also result in your customers believing they’ve done well, also. Satisfied w/ the product quality/prestige/location etc. Your employees, if you don’t want constant turnover need to feel satisfied as well. He’s had gobs of people at all levels working for him for decades. The contractors he hires also have to feel satisfied and willing to do business again… even though Trump is known for driving a hard bargain, per one concrete contractor, who was interviewed in a 2004 NYT piece.

      If one is in that sort of business and is a schmuck, a fraud, a deadbeat, a miserable wretch to work for… they won’t have a decent reputation at all.

Subotai Bahadur | August 26, 2015 at 4:53 pm

I find myself in agreement with Rubio, in the “stopped clock is right twice a day sense”. Even that level of agreement makes me feel unclean, but it is what it is.

The GOPe has all the tools in play to keep Trump from the Republican nomination. It was done in 2012 in an attempt to keep Ron Paul from being placed in nomination at the Republican Convention.

Rules of the Republican Party #40b used to require that to be placed in nomination you had to win the most delegates in 5 states. Ron Paul met that standard. The GOPe wanted an unopposed coronation of Romney and so they changed the rule [which still stands]. It now requires an absolute majority [50%+1] of the delegates in 8 states to be placed in nomination. We have a metric butt-load [app. 497 liters] of candidates. 50 states divided by a metric butt-load is <8. The GOPe will be rigging the game for ¡Jeb!, and opposing everybody else. The only one likely to get 8 is ¡Jeb!. And even if he does not, the convention will then be brokered in a back room. The GOPe will be the brokers. ¡Jeb! will be the nominee, regardless of how many delegates he or the others running have.

¡Jeb! would lose to Chelsea Clinton, let alone Hillary, Biden, or Fauxcahontas. But that is OK with the GOPe, because their primary mission is to keep control of whatever rump portion of the Republican Party remains. They have proved time and time again that they would rather lose to the Democrats than win with a conservative or an “outsider”.

There are also the proposed “loyalty oaths” for ballot access in play. Trump will not be the nominee of the Republican Party, because they would rather die first. There still remains the possibility of him being the nominee of a 3rd-party-that-becomes-the-second-party.

For the record, my political loyalties are for the the Constitution and country over any party.

    Juba Doobai! in reply to Subotai Bahadur. | August 26, 2015 at 8:00 pm

    Fine warrior said: “For the record, my political loyalties are for the the Constitution and country over any party.”

    100% agreement.

    Beautifully said.

    Now, if only Boehner, Prebus and McConnell would follow Vester Flanagan, and do the honorable thing.

    Agree with your outline of the Jeb! plan, as originally intended. However, Trump keeps getting stronger. If this continues, the odds that Trump will win 8+ states w/ 51% or greater is far more probable than Jeb! or Rubio! or Anyone!

    Thus, they might have to switch up the rules at the last minute… which I believe Trump knows full well, and his goal is to get so far ahead, that any funny business, will not be tolerated by the voters. Additionally, he needs to do so, quickly enough that by the time the GOPe forces the no 3rd party crap down his throat, he’s got enough of a lead his risk in signing is reduced…and I still wouldn’t be surprised to see him add an addendum which holds the RNC to the current rules, iow, they make changes, then his deal is off.

Marco Rubio won’t be the nominee, either.

The GOPe aren’t the brightest group of politicians, either.

What Trump has is the ability to be the top headline at Drudge. And, that means tens of millions of people daily are seeing Trump leading.

You know, with the “other choice” being Hillary it’s as if all of our politicians just went brain dead.

Trump has more tested and potent optimism in his fingernail than Rubio has in his phony, glib being. What has this pint-sized political weasel ever accomplished aside from spectacularly violating the lodestar campaign promise of his career?

    Radegunda in reply to pesanteur. | August 26, 2015 at 11:58 pm

    Trump has helped put Democrats in office in return for favors to fatten his bank account. I guess that’s accomplishing something. He has also been able to buy himself a couple of hot trophy wives after deciding that his first wife had gotten too old for him, and a lot of guys think that’s a great accomplishment. And he sponsors beauty pageants, while claiming to have something against bimbos if they have law degrees and high-powered careers.

    SKinDC in reply to pesanteur. | August 29, 2015 at 6:33 am

    ITA, additionally, Slick Marco rather contradicted himself in the blurb I read above, lol.

    I listened to his China speech. Oy vay. It was also way out of his wheelhouse and one could tell by the way he was reading it.

nordic_prince | August 26, 2015 at 6:06 pm

Hey Rubio,

You *do* realize that one of the things the voters are angry with is the way our immigration laws are flouted, the way our country is being overrun by sheer numbers of illegal alien invaders pouring over our borders, the way our government is expanding beyond its Constitutional limitations to bend over backwards to provide all manner of government freebies to these parasites courtesy of the US taxpayer, the way we’re expected to just shut up and pay up, and the way squishes like you are all too happy to perpetuate all of the above with your ignoring the wishes of We the People and capitulating time and again on “immigration reform”?

If you’re part of the problem, Rubio, you sure as hell can’t be part of the solution ~

“…..voters are angry with the way our immigration laws are flouted, the way our country is being overrun by sheer numbers of illegal alien invaders pouring over our borders….”

You are Indeed correct and our country is hurting because of it. But what many people fail to discern is that this condition is not static. More and more illegal invaders are coming here each and every day and in 10 to 15 years it will be too late – our country as we know it will cease to exist. We will be nothing more than an extension of the Republic of Mexico.

We will all be Mexicans. There will be no more land of opportunity. We will no longer be able to sing:

My country, ’tis of Thee,
Sweet Land of Liberty
Of thee I sing;
Land where my fathers died,
Land of the pilgrims’ pride,
From every mountain side
Let Freedom ring.

The Yugely smart highly compensated insider consultants have reassured us that Trump peaked at 24% and could go no higher. And they are, after all, Yugely smart — just ask ’em!

Well, Marco, you ain’t gonna be the nominee, either, so I ‘spose it all evens out.

No. Let’s deal with probabilities and possibilities. If Rubio is president, the probability of amnesty and more illegal aliens is 100% because there is no possibility that the GOP will not grant it. If Teump is president, there is 0% probability of any kind of gun ban because the NRA and gun owning citizens will make it impossible for congresscritters who vote for such a ban.

    Juba Doobai! in reply to Juba Doobai!. | August 26, 2015 at 7:48 pm

    This comment is in response to this:

    Kondor77 | August 26, 2015 at 4:13 pm
    If we hammer Rubio for amnesty, can we also hammer Trump for him wanting an Assault Weapons Ban? But I guess that’s just “an unfair question” to ask the Donald.

      Also, if you read his interview at Ammoland, his objection to the assault rifle thing was the politicians are calling AR-15’s assault rifles and they aren’t.

      He also objected to NY’s ‘safe law’ and is a ccw permit holder. He’s good on guns, despite those who come up w/ 15+ year examples. (Which is the vintage of the single payer crap, too)

Rubio-Amnesty’s idea of the “future” of America consists of tens of millions of legalized illegal aliens, followed by tens of millions more of their close relatives, and of course a resulting multi-generational dominance of the Democrat Party as all these “new Americans” vote overwhelmingly for the D’s socialist policies.

No thanks.

Rubio still hasn’t figured out why Trump is winning and he’s losing – Amnesty. That’s it. That’s virtually the entire reason.

Take a bold stand AGAINST illegal immigration, as Trump has, and you win.

You’d think the R’s would have figured that out after Eric Cantor’s historic primary loss (first and only majority leader in the House to ever lose a primary).

    SKinDC in reply to Aarradin. | August 29, 2015 at 6:41 am

    And the elderly ones brought in on chain migration start receiving Social Security…even though they didn’t pay into it. Go into taxpayer assisted living, etc. It’s a racket and part of the reason why those mandatory ‘investments’ are in trouble.