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David Axelrod: Obama lied about his faith

David Axelrod: Obama lied about his faith

Falsely claimed opposition to gay marriage on religious grounds during 2008 campaign.

George Bush did not “lie us into war,” no matter how many times the media and Democrats claim it was so.

But Barack Obama did lie himself into office, when he falsely claimed to oppose gay marriage on religious grounds during the 2008 campaign:

In fact, we now know as a fact what we always suspected, that Obama’s 2008 position was purely political, so as not to alienate the religious black community, whose enthusiasm and turnout was critical to Obama’s campaign.

What used to be just a “right-wing” tag line about Obama not being honest about his faith, now is proven by Obama’s key confidant and political advisor, David Axelrod as reported in Time, Axelrod: Obama Misled Nation When He Opposed Gay Marriage In 2008 (emphasis added):

Barack Obama misled Americans for his own political benefit when he claimed in the 2008 election to oppose same sex marriage for religious reasons, his former political strategist David Axelrod writes in a new book, Believer: My Forty Years in Politics.

“I’m just not very good at bullshitting,” Obama told Axelrod, after an event where he stated his opposition to same-sex marriage, according to the book.

Axelrod writes that he knew Obama was in favor of same-sex marriages during the first presidential campaign, even Obama publicly said he only supported civil unions, not full marriages. Axelrod also admits to counseling Obama to conceal that position for political reasons. “Opposition to gay marriage was particularly strong in the black church, and as he ran for higher office, he grudgingly accepted the counsel of more pragmatic folks like me, and modified his position to support civil unions rather than marriage, which he would term a ‘sacred union,’ ” Axelrod writes.

So Obama lied about his faith. Funny that.

And he lied not only during the 2008 campaign about it, but also during the 2012 campaign when Obama claimed he evolved into supporting gay marriage.

Listen to his announcement, and the detailed explanation he gives for evolving — it was all a lie, and he said it in a believable, seemingly heart-felt manner:

He didn’t evolve, he just decided to stop lying, because the national politics had changed and Obama wanted large donations for the 2012 campaign.

If Bill Clinton was an “unusually good liar,” Barack Obama deserves Academy Awards for Lying in a Leading Role, for his 2008 and 2012 performances.

This revelation is not about gay marriage.  Unlike Obama, much of the country honestly has “evolved” on the issue and it’s likely the Supreme Court will rule that way next June.

This has everything to do with our having a president who lied about his own core, his faith, for political gain.

If you can’t trust someone when he speaks of his faith, why should you trust him on anything?

What else has Obama lied about?

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He’s a lousy liar. We all knew he wasn’t telling the truth.

Only complete idiots were fooled.

    JimMtnViewCaUSA in reply to myiq2xu. | February 10, 2015 at 10:53 am

    Sadly, at least 47% of the voters are idiots.

      And this, I believe, hits the nail directly on the head. It is of no surprise to any even marginally sentient person that BO is a liar. Nonetheless, he’s was elected President-twice. By less-than-sentient, mouth-breathing morons and (perhaps even worse) gambling cynics who realize he lies about many things but really want to believe his promises of FREE STUFF for them. And they all vote. In greater numbers than us.

      saying so out loud got Mitt Romney into trouble as you may recall.

      Apparently honesty is the enemy when it comes to this presidency and its supporters

        Radegunda in reply to steviethek. | February 10, 2015 at 1:47 pm

        Except that Romney didn’t say they were idiots. Obviously some of those 47% (e.g. government employees) have good reason to think it’s in their self-interest to vote Democrat.

      47 percent of the voters are idiots. The result is that 47 percent voted for obama and those votes added to the fraudulent votes got him over the top.

      We spent the last 25+ years hectoring disinterested, ignorant, and uninformed people to register and vote. First it was registration at the DMV, then by postcard, then by third party solicitors, and finally by internet.

      What did we think would happen? That the stupid would get smarter? The ignorant would suddenly gain knowledge? The disinterested would follow the issues?

      Add to that 40 of ever-increasing federal and union control over education at all levels which has had the effect of dumbing down the average, and we have an electorate less informed than that of a century ago, when barely half of voters had high school diplomas.

Barack Obama is such a liar, if he admitted being a liar, I wouldn’t believe him.

Pres. ScamWOW lied about ___________.

There is no chance that you’ll be too far wrong if you say that about virtually anything on which Barracula has made any statement.

He lies. It is who he is. He is a Collectivist. It is who they are.

    Estragon in reply to Ragspierre. | February 10, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    Exactly. As Lenin postulated, lying is just a tool to be used in the acquisition of power. Once you hold the power, it doesn’t matter any more, but if you have to lie to get it, that’s okay because it is in service of The Greater Good (which is total power in the hands of the Left).

    Obama’s supporters come in two basic flavors: the hard core leftists who don’t care about his lies, and the low information voters who are too stupid to know they are being lied to.

Disagree. I think he told the truth about his religious opposition. As a Muslim, he would be against gay marriage.

As a Democrat, he personal beliefs quickly got in the way of obtaining and maintaining power. So he chucked them. Old story.

    userpen in reply to Same Same. | February 10, 2015 at 10:45 am

    I think you are giving him too much credit. If obama were a Christian he certainly would not be a faithful Christian. If obama is a muslim there is no way he would be a faithful muslim. He is not and cannot be faithful in anything except in lying. He is the supreme example of unfaithfulness.

    A person who is faithful must be conscientious. They must be thorough, careful and vigilant. Faithfulness implies a desire to do a task well. The Won is not like that. obama routinely sleeps in, skips his briefings, and rushes off to play golf. He seeks pleasure and avoids self discipline. He is not dependable and cannot be counted upon to uphold the strict teachings of Islam or any strong discipline (in my opinion).

    Vascaino in reply to Same Same. | February 10, 2015 at 2:29 pm

    ” As a Democrat, he personal beliefs quickly got in the way of obtaining and maintaining power. So he chucked them. Old story. ”

    Na, he’s just making use of taquiya. You know, that tactic the religion of peace uses to fool those stupid westerners.

    Estragon in reply to Same Same. | February 10, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    Obama’s no muslim. He does sympathize with muslims, since his father and stepfather were both muslims and he grew up in muslim culture in Indonesia.

    But religion necessarily involves believing in something bigger and more important than yourself. And Obama cannot even imagine that.

“What else has Obama lied about?”
____________________________

LOL. What hasn’t Obama lied about. Here’s the list:

    userpen in reply to Observer. | February 10, 2015 at 11:56 am

    Wow, that’s a short list! It’s so short it would qualify for the Guinness Book of World Records. And the good news is you won’t have to add anything to it ever.

Who knows? Flip open your Koran for a review of what Obama thinks about homosexuality.

Truth is a racist concept invented by old dead white guys in a desperate attempt to hold on to power and keep people of color down.

And that’s the truth.

Just for chuckles, let’s remember that my position on marriage is exactly that of Obama, Ol’ Walleyes Clinton, and Ball-less Bill Clinton.

Except mine hasn’t changed for cynical politics.

Obama lied!?
Noooooooo.
Say it ain’t so.
😮

JimMtnViewCaUSA | February 10, 2015 at 10:54 am

What’s going on in Alabama?

Sky = blue

Principled tolerance or selective exclusion. The normalization of homosexual behavior, not orientation, is irreconcilable with legal and moral principles. Their solution marks the beginning of another 100-year civil conflict. Of course, the incentives to ignore their, Obama et al, corruption have improved: now we’re covered.

Uh, I doubt that America has “evolved” on fake marriages based on devotion to perversion. But one thing is certain, and that is that we seem to have insufficient will to resist this effort to establish fraudulent law via precedent.

Professor, we all love you which is why we’re here but please do not succumb to the idiocy of “the Supremes said it so that’s the way it is” mentality. Our legal system is screwed up enough already and it is over-populated by power hungry thugs masquerading as judges.

The constitution isn’t living & breathing. Legal concepts such as equal protection and due process should not be either. About the only thing the enemies of America haven’t done is throw all the laws and statutes in a blender set on purree.

That is their ultimate goal – create so many gray areas that liability, duty, and rights cannot be seen (predicted) without going to court. The quality of disputes that end up in court today is ridiculous and unnecessary.

Sammy Finkelman | February 10, 2015 at 1:40 pm

In 2008, Barack Obama just wanted the issue to go away, so he said whatever he needed to, to prevent publicity.

The fact that he did not derive any moral beliefs from organized religion really shouldn’t have been any secret – it was openly acknowledged he had not belonged to any church, until it got embarrassing, because he was working with church groups, and they asked him “What’s your home church?”

So he picked a church without any real religion, just bad politics, headed by the Reverend Jeremiah Alvesta Wright, Jr.

    Ragspierre in reply to Sammy Finkelman. | February 10, 2015 at 2:05 pm

    That’s really not true. He gives every indication of having embraced “liberation Christianity” and racially warped Christian views.

    These meshed very nicely with “critical race theory” and Collectivism as taught by his other surrogate fathers.

    These are no more like Christian views in the mainstream than Westboro Baptist dogma, but they are WAY less excoriated because…race.

The Evolution: from “I’m just not very good at bullshitting,” to “I am very good at bullshitting.”

• Glibness/superficial charm
• Grandiose sense of self-worth
• Need for stimulation/proneness to boredom
• Pathological lying
• Cunning/manipulative
• Lack of remorse or guilt
• Shallow affect [i.e. superficial experience and expression of emotions]
• Callous/lack of empathy

These eight items are the first eight (of twenty) on the Hare Psychopathy Checklist – Revised (PCL-R). The items above are classified as Aggressive Narcissism, sometimes known as malignant narcissism.
Narcissistic psychopaths tend to be smooth, soulless operators pursuing power, position, and money.
A psychopath may be well-educated and may have sterling job qualifications. A psychopath is quite capable of reflecting on how better to deceive people while being totally oblivious to why he should not do so. More intelligent psychopaths tend to be the smooth operators, concealing their worst impulses and worming their way into positions of power, wealth, and influence.

I saved this from a blog post a few years ago. Sound like anyone we know??

    gregjgrose in reply to Hurricane. | February 10, 2015 at 3:12 pm

    Henry Hawkins?

      Ragspierre in reply to gregjgrose. | February 10, 2015 at 3:22 pm

      You’re thinking of his brother.

      Hannibal Hawkins…

        Henry Hawkins in reply to Ragspierre. | February 10, 2015 at 4:32 pm

        STEP brother.

        The PCL is essentially an amalgam of older diagnoses such as Sociopathic Personality Disorder, Anti-Social Personality Disorder, and the more generic terms of sociopath or psychopath.

        I posted the traits of a narcissist here a few years ago, inviting comparison to His Majesty The Clown.

          Ragspierre in reply to Henry Hawkins. | February 10, 2015 at 5:07 pm

          There are a lot more psychopaths among us than we realize. They are often not physically dangerous at all (or much), but they are all predatory and unlike the remainder of humanity.

          My favorite line about narcissistic personality disorder (which is falling from vogue as “a thing”, I understand) is, “You know what the hardest part of treating NPD is, right?”

          The answer is “Narcissistic Personal Disorder”. A narcissist will protect their narcissism at almost any cost. Essentially, they are the most weak, insecure people on the planet, but they’ve built this amazing fort around that insecurity.

          Psychopaths…I think…just have bad wiring.

          Henry Hawkins in reply to Henry Hawkins. | February 10, 2015 at 9:06 pm

          Personality disorders in general are considered incurable, you can only help a client accept and learn to cope with it, learn to make it not cost as much in dealing with others in society. Ideally, that is. What usually happens is psychiatrists prescribe meds and that’s that.

    Not A Member of Any Organized Political in reply to Hurricane. | February 11, 2015 at 6:45 pm

    It’s Barry O-baloney to a T

How brave of Axelrod. How about addressing the lies about Obamacare? Will that come in another 7 or 8 years.

Obama was raised up with communist mentors, and by the time he got out of Columbia he no doubt had the leftist rap down. Deceit and lying were just part of the game plan, as pushing communist thinking into America has always been about propaganda.

So not a hint of guilt will cross his face when he tells lies. He lives in talking points, and the old slogans of equality, fairness, solidarity, etc, flow smoothly.

When he needs to lie about gay marriage, it’s easy. He’s dispassionate, proud to lie, indeed, probably psychopathic. He never has to think “outside the box”, the leftist/commie world IS his box, and I don’t think he can escape it.

Free America is outside Obama’s box, which is one thing he can’t really hide, as revealed in telling America their Crusades were just like Isis tortures. Obama is basically the Manchurian Candidate, with less drama than the movie version, and a large army of networks, Hollywood, unions and big money supporting his every anti-American action.

    Exactly. Lying is just the means to his end. He has no regrets and no guilt about any lie he’s told that helped him get or keep this job, or to take any of his “fundamentally transformative” actions.

    And Sooper Genius Obama should know the Crusades didn’t spring up spontaneously, but rather as a reaction to the barbaric actions of muslims in the Holy Land. Even 800 years ago, they started it.

“What else has Obama lied about?”

You would have been better off asking what he has told the truth about. Short list. As in zero items.

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