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Should Elizabeth Warren run for President? (Reader Poll)

Should Elizabeth Warren run for President? (Reader Poll)

No one expects the Elizabeth Warren-mentum.

The internets have exploded with Elizabeth Warren-mentum.

Elizabeth Warren is playing hard to get when it comes to running for President. She still “is” not running, which literally is true, but never says that under no circumstances will she ever run:

Sen. Elizabeth Warren is not running for president, but might she in the future? She wouldn’t say when repeatedly pressed on NPR Monday morning. Instead, she just repeated the same present tense denial she’s uttered dozens of times this year: “I’m not running for president.”

It’s hardly the first time Warren, who became a progressive hero this week during a high-profile Senate showdown over Wall Street regulation, has dodged a question on 2016. Even as she and her staff insist the senator is not interested in running – and she distances herself from an effort to draft her into the race – Warren appears to be intentionally leaving some doubt hanging in the air. She may not want to run, but she would like voters to think there’s a chance.

“She’s never slammed the door shut,” said Ben Wikler of MoveOn.org, who is hopeful she will run and recently launched a campaign to draft Warren.

“As senator Warren has said many times, she is not running for president,” Warren spokesperson Lacey Rose told msnbc.

That tease is getting attention.

The standard liberal media outlets are falling all over themselves about how Warren is the fresh, principled face Democrats need while conservative outlets note how Warren is getting the same favorable media treatment Obama received.

Elizabeth Warren Google News Search 12-15-2014

No one saw this coming, except for yours truly. A long, long time ago.

But you have to want her to run more than she wants to run.

You have to beg her to run.  Just like when she wasn’t running for Senate before she ran for Senate.

Should Elizabeth Warren run for President? That is the question (not whether you would vote for her, just should she run).

Reader Poll closes at noon Pacific time, Tuesday, December 16, 2014.


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I’m all in favor of giving America a clear choice.

Yes, she should run.
1) she’s a wolf in sheep’s clothing.
2) it’ll be really easy to point this out.

    derf in reply to tkc882. | December 15, 2014 at 6:19 pm

    You fail to remember that she would be running with an electorate that voted for Obama, twice. Do NOT underestimate her and her chances of winning.

      Ragspierre in reply to derf. | December 15, 2014 at 6:43 pm

      Nope. You’re simply wrong. There is a 20-30% group of voters that are simply Collectivists/insane, and will continue to vote for Collectivists.

      But the bulk of the nation has made a very basic, watershed change over the Barracula years. We don’t trust government…again.

      Warren would be a Dukakis with lady parts, and Americans are getting tired of crazy people with lady parts, too.

    walls in reply to tkc882. | December 16, 2014 at 8:31 am

    Don’t you mean she’s a squaw in white man’s clothing?

Hillary’s Army tried the “Ask Hillary to Run” approach already didn’t they? It fell kinda flat since everyone knows she thinks it’s in the bag, and the “Ask me nice” is just ceremony.

Warren acts as if she will take on those big bad banks, while Hillary wants to own them. Warren was put on that banking committee, but she was not the brains. She does her little “you didn’t build that” pouty finger point, fist pump thing, but she’s a light weight.

Hillary has a ton of name recognition and baggage, and dirty donors. Not sure which of them would collapse faster in a campaign. Warren is the newer (wrinkled) face, but wouldn’t have old Bill to back her.

Sure I want Warren to run, if only to make old Hillary more fatigued. Warren seems like a weaker candidate, but she might be accepted simply as the first Native American woman president ever, no experience necessary.

    I would much rather have had Hillary in office than Obama. And I would much rather have Hillary than Warren. Hillary (or Biden, even) would not have governed from the left and been so audacious as Obama. Don’t for a minute think Warren couldn’t win, and if she did, we really are in for it as a country.

DINORightMarie | December 15, 2014 at 4:52 pm

Lizzy Warren is a nightmare. I hope she is nominated so that people can see what she is really all about.

The question, to me, is who the Republicans nominate. If it isn’t a Constitutional Conservative, if it’s a RINO, they will lose to WHOEVER the Dems put up.

Even senile Biden. O.o

    JimMtnViewCaUSA in reply to DINORightMarie. | December 15, 2014 at 10:15 pm

    I think that is exactly right.
    American voters seem to understand there is a problem. In turn they have given power to Dems and Repubs over the past couple of decades, but neither has shown an ability to resolve the problems.
    Once again Repubs have the momentum, yet…
    If the Repub congressional majority decides to walk away from defending America and continue with DC business as usual, voters may turn to the Dems again.

Hey, if TomASSkey thinks it’s a good idea for the Collective, I’m all for it.

The guy is embarrassingly stupid.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/12/15/the-most-powerful-democrat-in-america.html

Going out on a limb here, but has anyone ever lost a nomination or election because they said they weren’t running before they started running? I can’t think of any off the top.

But now people are looking for nuance in the tense she uses . . . perhaps if we check her garbage we can read the tea leaves?

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Back during the dot-com boom years in the market, people would speculate based on what color tie Alan Greenspan wore to his congressional testimony. It never had any bearing or gave any signal on what he was going to say, though, mainly because he always talked a lot and said nothing at all.

Has anyone actually declared their candidacy yet?

Do not even think of counting Warren out. She is dangerous. She has the blind absolute backing of liberals, people who view themselves as elite intellectuals, people who want to be viewed as eliete intellectuals, democrats who will vote for a democrat no matter what and a similar group of people who would not vote for a Republican no matter what, a lot of women voters and the media.

For months before the election the media will portray Warren as a goddess come to earth and will Palinize any Republican. Ask Scott Brown.

Remember also that some are talking about Jeb Bush and also remember there are many who have said and will say they will not vote for him no matter what. There were a bunch saying that on a thread on this very site last Saturday.

It depends on who the Republicans nominate. Warren could beat Jeb Bush. Warren could probably beat Christi. If Republicans go all out McCain or Bob Dole, Warren will beat them. Never assume the Republican establishment will make the correct or courageous decision. That has never been something they have been known for.

Do not think the Indian thing is enough to derail her quest for power. It did not work in Mass. and it will not work in the other liberal big cities. They don’t care as long as she is a democrat and a female she is dangerous.

If Jebby runs then so should Lizzy.

I keep saying that if she runs she wins. I keep getting told that she’s too old, or too left to win… But we’re taking about the same voters that elected Obama twice in a row…
She’s got a lot of millennials taking about voting for her, and she appeals to the communist contingent, since she’s a member.

I think she runs but doesn’t survive the primary. She only made it through to the general election in MA relatively unscathed because the Democrats blocked anyone else from running in the primary. She had competition within the Democratic Party who might not have beaten her, but certainly would have weakened her. So the the party convention refused to certify anyone else. If she jumps into the race, a lot of other Democrats who do not want to be the only one to challenge Hillary will jump in, too. Her weaknesses will not be able to be covered up as easily as they were in MA. She is terrible on the campaign trail and relies on others to carry most of the water for her. With multiple people running for the nomination, there will be fewer people there to prop her up.

I suppose this will be a shift from the Democratic party’s present policy of “Vote for us or you’re racist” to “Vote for us or you’re sexist”

Hillary ascended through the “old boys’ network” of climbing with Bill and all of the affairs. Warren ascended the true progressive way of claiming minority status when she had none but “felt” it was true. As a model for Leftist thought, Warren is superior … and she didn’t build that reputation from reality.

Where’s the “Who Cares?” category. If the American public is so Grubered as to vote Obama into office TWICE, then America is doomed.

DO NOT UNDERESTIMATE THE ABILITY OF THE US PUBLIC TO BUY INTO THE MESSAGE SHE PREACHES. MAYBE the country would see the wisdom of not going down the path of electing a one term senator with little experience, but I’m not sure.
I could see her getting elected. And it would be an unmitigated disaster for the country. I’d take a Biden or even a Hillary (both of whom wouldn’t govern from the far left). Our country cannot survive two far out lefties back to back.

    Ragspierre in reply to derf. | December 15, 2014 at 8:34 pm

    On Monday’s Special Report, Charles Krauthammer said Republicans will triumph in 2016 if Massachusetts senator Elizabeth Warren is the Democratic nominee for president. “I think she ought to run, I’d be the No. 1 supporter, I’d love to see her run,” Krauthammer said. “It would be a festival if you’re a conservative or a Republican. We put up anybody sentient on the other side it’ll be a good night on Election Night.”

    While I disagree with Special K sometimes, this isn’t one of them.

    She’d win a “landslide” like Dukakis.

      Not A Member of Any Organized Political in reply to Ragspierre. | December 15, 2014 at 9:16 pm

      But “real” elite, intellectual Leftist minds are stuck on pondering “Will Lizzie look as cute in her fake headress as Dukakis did in his helmet and tank?”

    Not A Member of Any Organized Political in reply to derf. | December 15, 2014 at 9:14 pm

    Hmmmmmm….Obama was a 1 term congress critter with no real accomplishments of his own doing too……

Doug Wright Old Grouchy | December 15, 2014 at 6:28 pm

Yep, Warren should run. To paraphrase a very old saying: Her candidacy would provide a clear choice, not an echo, as long as there the GOP candidate is a strong conservative.

Yet, if Mitt, or Jeb, or Christie, or Gov. Huckabee run, either one would would be swamped by Warren’s progressive vote buying. Actually, it would be like 2012 all over again when 4 to 5-million GOP voters didn’t show up. Even then, Warren would resume Obama’s Socialist takeover except I doubt if the country would really stand still for that. My prediction is that her presidency would result in massive civil disagreements by Conservatives this time and she would turn out her storm troopers, SEIU or whatever she has available.

NC Mountain Girl | December 15, 2014 at 6:39 pm

I see her as the second coming of Howard Dean. Dean had a lot of vocal support on the left, too. But he was a hard sell on the campaign trail once he left his comfort zone in the Northeas

She should run for President of the Cherokee Nation.

And lose.

She like a White female Obama. Except for high cheekbones.

Frankly I think this election is going to be much less about the candidates and much more about how much stupid shit McConnell and Boehner do in the next 2 years.

They’re already royally screwing things up with the zero answer to Obama’s amnesty and ramming through this massive spending bill bullshit before the new Congress is seated.

If they keep up this crap I fully expect to be stuck with whatever liberal gets the final nomination as conservatives give the giant middle finger to the GOP establishment.

Professor, I, for one, recall your prediction and the
reasoning behind your creation of the ElizabethWarrenWiki.org website.

The left-wing only heard the 2/3s of voters who didn’t vote in 2014.

So, yeah, if Warren is up to it she should run and might I suggest a running mate for her should she get the Democrat nomination: Martha Coakley. (snicker)

I hope to watch months of primary knockdown drag-outs between Two-Dogs-Lizzie and madam Pantsuit.

It depends on who the GOP runs. If we run another wet noodle like McCain or Romney, she could well win and then we’re stuck with an outright Marxist for 4-8 more years. A Marxist who could replace half the supreme court in her term.

    And that is exactly why it is important that “true conservatives” vote for a Romney and not an Obama. The Supreme Court DOES hang in the balance.

Who says Obama is going anywhere?

YES, please God, yes. The debate with Cruz. Oh please run.

    derf in reply to Barry. | December 15, 2014 at 7:49 pm

    I don’t share your confidence in a Cruz / Warren debate. She’s slick. And preaches a message that sounds good on the surface / is hard to refute in short sound bites (banks are evil, I’m protecting the little guy, etc etc). Not saying she’s right. She’s not. But it’s an easy message that will be parroted by the MSM who will cheerlead and block for her (like my mixed metaphors?).

      Barry in reply to derf. | December 15, 2014 at 9:03 pm

      The problem for her is she is ignorant. She simply plays the same old left wing feel good BS. Cruz would destroy her in a debate. I don’t mean the left will be persuaded, they’ll vote for any commie. The middle however, with Cruz missile guidance, will see straight through fauxchohontas.

        Olinser in reply to Barry. | December 15, 2014 at 10:17 pm

        Romney SLAUGHTERED Obama in the first debate. Then the media came to his rescue.

        Unless you watch the debate live the liberals will play only the favorable clips of Warren spouting leftist talking points.

          Barry in reply to Olinser. | December 16, 2014 at 2:01 pm

          Romney is a pussy, he “won” the first debate because Obama was unprepared and a dumbass to boot.

          For the second debate, obama was prepared (still a dumbass) and won in the media replay because the pussy would not lay a glove on him.

          Not to mention, that as the father of romneycare it was a tad difficult for the pussy to go after obamacare.

          Cruz will have none of those problems.
          1. he’s very smart
          2. he’s always prepared, because
          3. he is a true conservative, with those core principles

      walls in reply to derf. | December 16, 2014 at 8:37 am

      Darn – she’ll have to trade in her BMW AGAIN for another Ford Taurus.

Warren beats Bush or Romney, loses to Walker, Cruz, or Pence.

    David R. Graham in reply to Henry Hawkins. | December 16, 2014 at 12:22 am

    Astute, concur.

    David R. Graham in reply to Henry Hawkins. | December 16, 2014 at 12:23 am

    I think Warren also beats Christie. Meaning, she beats any RINO.

    David R. Graham in reply to Henry Hawkins. | December 16, 2014 at 12:29 am

    IMO, Governor Palin or Walker would be the best R Candidate. Americans love a fighter. They will vote for a fighter, “issues” be damned. They know life and nationhood are a fights for survival and will vote for anyone, regardless of party, they think will fight for them to survive as individuals and as a nation. Bush, Romney and Christie are not fighters. They are operators, but not fighters. And neither of them, with a negligible exception for Romney, cares a damn for the souls of Americans.

      I think Palin’s time has come and gone. She should have run in 2012. We couldn’t have done any worse with her, and we might have done better. By now her executive experience, short as it was, is too long ago. Walker should make her either Energy Secretary or Interior Secretary.

JimMtnViewCaUSA | December 15, 2014 at 10:19 pm

Dear Repubs: Run Walker.

I just want to see the cat-fight between Shrillary and Fauxcahontas. It would be epic.

Prof, your poll is not complete. Where is the “Not only No, but ‘Hell, NO!’” button? The only reason to support a Warren run would be to drive a wedge into the Hillary crowd and even that isn’t a good enough reason.

My God, what if she actually won?

Its hard to imagine a candidate the D’s could field that would be more likely to lose all 50 states. So, yes!

I want to see Warren as the Dem candidate, and I want to see Bernie Sanders mount an independent campaign. Let the leftists fight it out with each other.

Against a solid conservative GOP governor (Walker, Pence, Perry, etc), Warren loses almost as bad as McGovern, say 57/43 against her.

Against center-left GOP RINOs (Bush, Christie, Rubio, Romney, etc.), Warren squeaks out narrow 1-2 pt wins.

If Warren doesn’t run, Hillary will screw up trying to please both the Dem left and moderates. She’s not a retail politician and is as graceful as a hog on ice when it comes to playing voting blocs convincingly, as could her hubby.

If Warren does run, she’ll be doing Hillary a favor. Hillary will hate it, but Warren’s presence would force her towards the Dem Party’s moderate middle – where she’ll pick up enough indy support to beat Warren.

If Clinton and Warren both run, they may possibly completely offset each other in the primaries, splitting the party. Expect animosity across the sea of Dem primary voters for what is likely to be an ugly primary fight. In that event – Clinton and Warren even-steven and fighting ugly – do not rule out a victorious darkhorse Dem candidate running to the old-style Dem middle: Senator Mark Warner (D-VA) or possibly Mario Cuomo, for example. Others: Senator Tim Kaine (D-VA), or even Evan Bayh, former Governor, US Senator, and Sec of State in Indiana. (Per David Plouffe’s book, they flipped a coin to choose between Bayh and Biden for the VP nod in 2008)

Do I want her to run? Hell yeah. Do I want her to win against a Republican? Hell no. I just want to watch the fraticide between Shrillary and Fauxchahontas supporters.

The real question:

If Hillary Clinton and Elizabeth Warren face off in the 2016 Democrat primary will there be a swimsuit competition?

    Vomit.

    Accidentally pushed the downvote to reply, but with that “real question” it seems appropriate 🙂

      Henry Hawkins in reply to Barry. | December 16, 2014 at 8:55 pm

      Yeah, you’re right. I nailed myself a second time. Normally I’m not such a hound dog, but it isn’t me putting all these foxes into high office.

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition either.

Yes, she should run…no one with even her level of support has gone bankrupt running for President.

The process is corrupt and she’s a winner even if she’s a loser. Fame, notoriety, donations….these things lead to the political aristocracy that currently infects this country.

It’d be great if she runs. And how!

(She’s going to lose.)

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