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Hillary will crumble if Elizabeth Warren just says “Yes”

Hillary will crumble if Elizabeth Warren just says “Yes”

Draw clear lines for the 2016 presidential battle.

Forget the polls.

Forget. The. Polls.

The Democratic nomination for president is Elizabeth Warren’s for the asking.

If that wasn’t the case two weeks ago, it is now after Warren’s performance trying to kill CRomnibus because of a rider scaling back a part of the Dodd-Frank financial scheme.

It doesn’t matter if Warren is right or wrong. She’s doing something. She’s leading.

Where has Hillary been?

Seriously, is Hillary any place to be found?

The headlines are all Liz Warren, all the time, and she’s getting the positive treatment for risking a government shutdown that Ted Cruz and Republicans never will receive.

Danny Vinik at The New Republic declares this The Week Elizabeth Warren Decided to Run for President:

We won’t know for a few months whether the Massachusetts senator will challenge Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination, but if she chooses to run, we’re going to look back at this week as a pivotal moment in Warren’s decision-making….

This doesn’t mean that she will run. On Tuesday, her press secretary said, “As Senator Warren has said many times, she is not running for president.” But note the present tense—Warren could still run in the future.

Team Obama, or more precisely, Team Obama operatives, are lining up behind Warren:

In an open swipe at Hillary Clinton, more than 300 operatives from President Obama’s 2008 and 2012 campaigns are urging the lefty Massachusetts senator to challenge Clinton for the 2016 Democratic presidential nomination.

Their “Ready for Warren” site posted a letter Friday signed by the ex-Obama staffers.

Ready For Warren Letter Run

I have said it many times, Elizabeth Warren has a unique ability to feed into a victim narrative, in which a relatively few bankers and industrialists allegedly have rigged the system. is lined up behind Warren, via HuffPo:

Run Warren Run!

That’s the rallying cry MoveOn adopted this week as we launched a major, million-dollar campaign focused on convincing Senator Elizabeth Warren to run for president. Our members voted overwhelmingly — 81.3 percent of votes cast — to support this campaign, and we’re joining the millions of Americans across the country who are energized, inspired, and awed by Senator Warren, one of our country’s fiercest advocates for working families and the middle class.

So, Senator Warren, we’re making it clear: If you run for president, we’ll be right there with you, helping forge a path from the Iowa Caucuses all the way to the White House. We’ve got your back.

Forget that the personal narrative in the ad has problems.

You can feel how momentum could grow quickly, as it did for Obama against Hillary in 2007-2008:

Warren is a talented demagogue, as this excerpt from a speech which has gone viral among progressives demonstrates:

Just say Yes, Elizabeth, Just Say Yes.

Oh, sure, I’ll oppose you. But at least the lines will be clearly drawn.


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Yup, that’s just what this country needs – another leftist liar-in-chief.

It’s one thing for leftists to live in their own fantasyland – it’s quite another for them to drag the rest of us into their hellhole.

    RickCaird in reply to nordic_prince. | December 14, 2014 at 4:29 pm

    I know I am looking forward to another 1st term Senator with no political experience and a fake Indian background as our next President. Why would not everyone line up to vote for that person. /sarc

legacyrepublican | December 13, 2014 at 2:26 pm

Why do you guys on the left try a Native American War Cry to entice her to run. I’m sure that will stir her alleged native american blood up and force her to take action.

Hiya Hiya Hiya Liza Run, Hiya Hiya Liza Run!!

It would be a Seminole moment in our nation’s history.

Elizabeth Warren.
Another Obama. No real qualifications. A first term Senator.
A liar and a fraud (see native American claims and how she lied to get minority jobs).
Absolutely no experience running anything.
Can point to nothing positive she has done.(Like Hillary)

Good grief. She’s a combination Obama/Hillary and we all know how much those two have done for us.


I’m of the opinion that we don’t see the Deemocrat nominee on our radar yet.

Lizzy is WAY too Northeastern Collectivist establishment, and she’s only a few years younger than Ol’ Walleyes Clinton, who is ALSO too freighted down to carry a presidential campaign to anything better than a Dukakis finish.

I used to think MoooOOOoochelle was a danger, but the Obama brand is just too deep in the cess pool now to drag out.

Doug Wright Old Grouchy | December 13, 2014 at 3:07 pm

Heck ya, she should run. Let’s get an outspoken Democrat who actively promotes a Socialist (Heck, Communist!) agenda.

Give the USA a chance to declare whether it wants to complete what Obama is trying to do. Do we want a to keep a representative republican form of government as our founders outlined. Or, do we want an Elitist style of Communistic government ala Cuba, or Russia, or Venezuela?

If the voters, God Help USA, truly want that form of Socialist government, that at least clearly defines what has to be done to restore our country. Give us a choice and allow us to determine what this country will be, heck ya!

Just in case it’s not clear, I would work against any “progressive” candidate with all my heart. That includes a GOP Progressive version too.

Hey Prof, since you’ve established such a great relationship with her, why not ask for an interview?

I think it would be great for the country to have this debate out front and in the open.

Warren is very, very different from Obama. They are both Marxists, but he hides behind slogans and deceptions to fool the gullible constituents. Remember he was going to be the ‘post-partisan President’ and ‘change the way things are done in Washington,’ when in fact he is the most partisan President since the rise of factions in the early 19th Century.

Warren lies, too – you can’t be a leftist and tell the truth too often – but she is open about her philosophy.

Run a solid conservative with a record of accomplishment against her, like Walker or Jindal, and draw the contrasts between visions, beliefs, and records.

Heck, we might even gain a Senate seat or two.

“Pow Wow Chow: Keeping Dopes Hopes Alive” is not a bestseller.
Perhaps “Rigged: A Personal Vignette” may be marketable

Fauxcahontas and Hildabeast! What a pair! Either one would be an utter disaster for America.

The level of commentary here reminds me that Warren’s opponents have no sound ideas or arguments, just Big Money pulling their stupid strings. Dance little puppets.

    gasper in reply to Jandman. | December 13, 2014 at 7:57 pm

    Click the Wiki link on the homepage of LI. I think we know her much better than you do.

    Doug Wright Old Grouchy in reply to Jandman. | December 13, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    Yep, you certainly do know her better than we would ever hope to. And, we’re very thankful for that too.

    Just do recall later on in life, Warren and her ilk always turn on their supporters because they cannot be trusted. Refer to Trotsky, and the Red Army general staff 1937; Mao and his Great Leap Forward; Pol Pot and his purges; Fidel and his able assistant Che.

    Lastly, while we might pray for you, your soul belongs to Princess Liawatha.

    Voyager in reply to Jandman. | December 13, 2014 at 11:08 pm

    Dude, you didn’t build that.

    Ragspierre in reply to Jandman. | December 15, 2014 at 9:28 am

    Anybody who whats a bit better insight into the whole “banking” mythology should read that short piece. A lot of what you think you know is typical Collectivist lies.

    Dimsdale in reply to Jandman. | December 15, 2014 at 9:46 am

    Actually, Granny Warren’s level of commentary demonstrates how vapid she is. And let us not forget hypocritical: she is one of the “1%” and lied about creating the OWS movement, she practiced law in MA without a license, flipped houses to make money (taking advantage of people buying houses), refuses to meet her “Native American” brethren, stole minority set asides in college, particularly Harvard, from true minorities, and has zero (or is it Ø?) experience, being elected in a state where being mentally challenged and Democrat is sufficient to get one elected. And then the corruption in her Consumer protection agency (, which even Øbama didn’t trust her to run.

    Liawatha, Fauxchohontas, pick it. She is just another inexperienced liberal darling of the day that will further degrade this country after the Øbamanation.

I truly hope she runs. Hillary’s team will point out her interesting past. Beyond the fake Cherokee heritage, Warren practiced law in two states with a lapsed license, worked for Big Insurance to limit workers asbestos claims and somehow (Female & Minority status) became the only professor Harvard had ever hired who had never graduated from a top ten law school.

    walls in reply to NEChris. | December 14, 2014 at 12:48 pm

    She graduated from Rutgers Law [at the time ranked #184] which is a MILE OFF from #10. High cheekbones will buy you a lot.

      Dimsdale in reply to walls. | December 15, 2014 at 9:49 am

      High cheekbones and misdirected Affirmative Action help via faked documents.

      We never have seen any of her application docs, have we?

@Doug Wright (Old Grouchy) I went to the Wiki page linked at the LI homepage and found a lot of charges related to Sen Warren;s questionable ancestry. I’ve commented previously on this subject based on personal experience. My wife’s mother was born in the hills in Kentucky. By personal account and based on her appearance she was Native American although she had a Dutch surname. She died when my wife was eleven years old and was not available as a source of information when our daughter attempted to trace her ancestry fifty ears later. Census information, marriage and birth records were often contradictory, misleading, or incomplete. This is not surprising since the Cherokees had been forcibly removed from their land and those who chose to hide in the hills rather than be relocated lived for nearly a hundred years out of the main stream of civilized life. I suspect Sen Warren would have had the same problem in tracing her genealogy and chose to accept the family’s oral tradition, partially supported by her grandfather description of his mother’s ancestry on his wedding license. I really don’t think she fabricated this story for career advancement.

There was some attention on the Wiki page to an article by Philip Schuchman, a law professor at Rutgers and UConn who questioned research methodolgu in a book co-written by Warren and two others. Prof Schuchman is described as an authority in the field of relating economic data to legal questions, and he argued that different standards or methodologies would have preferably applied, but that is an academic issue and does not rise to the level of a substantial refutation of the book’s conclusion or Sen Warrens contribution.
In any case, thank you to calling my attention to the page.

    gasper in reply to Jandman. | December 14, 2014 at 12:24 am

    Well, your attention span is now known. It was I who directed you to Wiki, not Doug Write. If you read about the Cherokees being forced out of their land, then it obviously escaped you that one of Warren’s great grandfathers (Jonathon Crawford) was actually involved in forcibly removing the Cherokees. His wife was Neoma Smith, born at the end of the 1700’s to Wyatt Smith who was born about 1768 in South Carolina or North Carolina. So, we can go back almost 250 years with no Native American ancestors. But we can always hope can’t we that her family legend predates that period of time, right? Don’t forget to read in the Wiki piece about who she represented as a lawyer. I guess you can rationalize that too, just as you rationalize Obama as a great President as the world and our country disintegrate around us.

    gasper in reply to Jandman. | December 14, 2014 at 12:27 am

    Good Lord you even got the wedding license wrong. That was proven to be wrong. There was no mention on the license. Hell, one of her recent ancestors shot and killed a Native American in Oklahoma.

    Doug Wright Old Grouchy in reply to Jandman. | December 14, 2014 at 12:29 am

    Having a slight issue trying to understand how you’ve linked my comments to Wiki! Of course, it might be that the reference to “Wiki” was made in comments on this same article, so perhaps that is understandable.

    Actually, I don’t really have a problem with this comment of yours, just surprised at your linkage.

    Yet, you might be interested in composing your own thoughts about your future version of a motorcycle diary; God forbid that there is an exact parallel in your life!

    Barry in reply to Jandman. | December 15, 2014 at 6:38 am

    ” I really don’t think she fabricated this story for career advancement.”

    In other news, there is a sucker born every minute, you can fool some of the people all of the time, and never underestimate the stupidity of the left.

    You fit all three. Considering there is zero, 0, nada, zilch, no evidence lieawatha has any native American blood.

    Dimsdale in reply to Jandman. | December 15, 2014 at 9:52 am

    One’s ancestor being spat upon by real Cherokees in the Trail of Tears is insufficient DNA transfer to support claims of Cherokee ancestry.

Sorry Doug, I should have addressed my comment to Gasper. and to Gasper, I havn’t seen documents related to the wedding license. Perhaps you could provide a reference. (incidentally that reference was not key to my argument)

    Barry in reply to Jandman. | December 15, 2014 at 6:41 am

    “(incidentally that reference was not key to my argument)”

    Incidentally, you have no argument. You believe lieawatha just because. It’s religious.

“Be aware and afraid, Lieawatha”


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